In typical Kilroy fashion, i have forgotten to take into account the drop rates are different depending what your world difficulty is, so the numbers i gave to you in this video will be for Guerrilla players. if your on a lower difficulty you will receive less than what i mentioned so please keep this in mind everyone! cheers 🤣🤣
To help with the furnace, you can vent it every 30 seconds from the last time it was vented. It’s inconvenient to keep an eye on the time but that might help if you can’t hear it for whatever reason.
if they don't massively increase rewards then I'll just wait for someone to make a mod that increases them. Like a 10x mod or something, because that's insane. No one is playing generation zero to be grindy. They're taking this like it's some game that has a live service, or has some pvp or something like that, instead of a game that is going to be basically dead since they do not intend to ever release another content update. What they should do is increase what rivals and large enemies drop in the wild and during base defenses, and increase what players get from just normal scavenging, and then for base waves, make it high enough and worth enough to only have to play a few missions to get what you want, not 15 games of hard mode to make like 10 medkits.
I play generation zero for the grind lol and i know a lot of others who do as well... the game is challenging and apparently from all these comments gamers have become super lazy in recent years not willing to do anything for the best of the best equipment and weapons... kinda sad
@@KilroyPlays but the rewards are too low still. Again, you play hard mode like 10-15 times and you make enough to get a handful of medkits.. When I can just go spend the same amount of time looting and find twice as many.
you shouldn't even need to make first aid kits... the amount that get dropped and are found from looting is insane, you just have to put in the hard work to get the best equipment, if you want the best drops play on guerrilla and hard mode and just get better at the game ,when did gamers get so lazy??
then stop whinging and stop playing the game... its not tedium your just being lazy...people like you complained about having nothing to do in generation zero so guess what they gave you? THINGS TO DO! and your still bitching about it...
@@KilroyPlays damn alright. getting butthurt over someones opinion really shows your true colors huh. Edit: And regardless of what you say, literally every video I've seen in the last week from a youtuber, or a reddit post, or even in steam forums, say the grind is too much and isn't worth it for what you get. So your opinion is that it's fine, but 95% of the rest of the people will disagree with you. Also it's pretty unprofessional of you act like this as a youtuber. Almost childish in response.
This stupid ass system makes no sense, why not have these buildings just slowly making you the rare resources over time and defense stays how it was, or even finding these rare resources on higher level machines
tbh once they fix the furnace rates this new crafting system will be amazing! people are just lazy and don't want to grind for things to get the best gear, clothing and items sadly
Will you be planning on making a video about which control points make resources [like which ones make Phosphorus for example] and which are best to farm from?
I can do if that’s something you’d be interested in? I can tell you straight up that the revinen control point above and to the right of the farmlands bunker is the best spot for the drill 🔥 only have to defend from one side so you can focus all your defence in a straight line and it’s a turkey shoot for the sniper towers
Thank you man, but after seeing this ive deleted my bases and just stick to basics, they did turn into unfun mechanic. Thx man, this saves hours of game time i would have waisted and just enjoy the game the way i always have.
@@KilroyPlays if your playing on hard difficulty i do understand but i play normal so i dont really need end gear stuff to enjoy the game, but tbh the bugs of the game is worse than base defense in my opinion, i might still try base defense, one day. Still enjoy it ngl, been playing about 20 hours the last 2 days just grinding to get experimental weapons.
Id love to see a vid on best bases for each structure as you only need 3 bases now. All older best base locations vids are rather less than useful now cause of the machinery factor. Thanks!
@KilroyPlays sweet. I don't know how many of each type of base spot there are but it's be handy to not just have like "yep this is the best for X' but the why behind it cause learning make brain grow big lol
having just bought the game and dlc while it was on steam super sale i can't say i agree more with your video (i do still really enjoy the game). I was so confused having just got in after a giant update like this, it felt so unintuitive i had no idea i needed exactly 100 since i didn't have that much. of course i might just be stupid in the ui but now im glad i missed out on doing the furnace defence.
please dont give up on the game because it's so much fun! just give it till January and see if they fix the furnace drop rates because the new BD integration with the game is an awesome feature! it adds so much to your playthrough now :)
I’m on the fence about the changes to machine drops. Although it’s convenient getting the ammo you need from every machine, they said they wanted to incentivise crafting and I haven’t needed to craft a single thing since the update. It also feels strange getting multiple rockets from runners. I think they should do a combination of the old system and the new one where the weapons you are carrying affect the chance of drops, but it is still mostly dictated by the class of machine (eg. Runners don’t drop .50)
yeah i like that about the old system that the class of machine also could dictate the ammo pool in which it dropped from, i 110% agree with the mixed idea tbh because there's no way a runner should be dropping anything other than some shotgun rounds, 9mm and maybe some .270's
@@KilroyPlays New players can't afford resources to make multiple drills first time - I know i couldn't afford it because I had to spend resources on defense also
can't afford the resources?? it uses two of the most commonly found mats in game? if you cant afford to build 3 from the get go your not doing enough looting my friend :)
Good thing I duped on PS4 so long ago, if I ever decide going on the game there again other than the experimentals, but I started new on PC with the new stuff, that's a pain.
the only negative thing is the furnace rate is rubbish other than that the changes are awesome, people complained there was nothing to do, so they finally give people things to do and work for and they just whinge, i feel sorry for the devs honestly 🤣
As a new player, this is just stupid. I was slowly and steadily progressing better armor and weapon augments, and now I've hit a brick wall. I can't build high wood walls to protect my drills because I need the phosphorus from the drills. Even when I grind enough to make walls, I'll still have bad weapons and armor which makes it difficult to collect tungsten in the first place. With low-end armor and augments, I'll have to stick to lower difficulty defense missions and only be able to make a single clothing upgrade. The game has gone from a fun run and gun robot battle to a slow grindfest. I wish they'd at least put the new materials in rival loot.
see this is where you've got it wrong... GZ was NEVER* a run and gun game it has always been a grind, always... and the amount of good weapons and equipment you'll get even from doing low lvl base defences is insane! again it all comes down to the fact players are lazy and want all the best weapons and equipment for no work...
@KilroyPlays as a newer player, I haven't been grinding for uniques or farming the titan. I've just been doing the missions and looting the houses along the way, occasionally taking out a nearby occupied control point. I did finally do the base defense mission, and the medium defense wasn't that bad. I haven't worked up the courage to try a hard one yet. I think I need to rearrange some defenses. With 42 phosphorus only making 8 tall wood walls, it's going to take a while to make enough walls for a second base to farm chems.
Thank god i have a 2nd character that has nothing but thousands of advanced med kits like 90k of them and another character dedicated to nothing but exp ammo because this new system is beyond annoying
I have just come back after 5 years to this game and I gotta ask. What the heck is that skill/attachment that is allowing you to act like you are from “Wanted” on this game? The bullet magnet looks sickly!
@ Ahhh that’s what it is. Man when I left I had all the experimentals. Didn’t realize there were more to get. Imma have to get dirty with some of these rivals
I think to balance things out they should buff crafting so when you have the materials the amout you get is actually worth it, because one med kit for 5 ethanol is absurd
110% agree but at the same time I gotta tell ya on my character that I currently play on I don’t think I’ve ever made a first aid kit 🤣 but for others I understand it might be rough! I think the worst part is the furnace tbh the conversion rates are so bad
not gonna lie, just to make it interesting i might just start working on the furnace sweetspots of howmuch of each metal you can put in to not lose alot of the harder to grind materials course doing something will take time and will be requiring me to use alot of resources to end up finding the optimal result but ill get there as its only a matter of time
@KilroyPlays how are ya mate. Any tips on how to get the "HP5 & AK76 Experimental Weapons?" Ever since getting the Sjoqvist Experimental Shotty early in the piece (which I got real easily), I've drawn a blank.... 😞 ..
not doing bad my friend, how are you travelling? and as for experimentals the drop rates i think have been tweaked cause i know a lot of people having issues getting them. i think your best bet is the vulture as its a guaranteed exp drop. i'll have a new farming guide coming out in a few days though :)
I think you mean base defences cause base assaults haven't changed, but more importantly the new changes to BD's are great! the old system had no involvement in the game whatsoever at least now its apart of the game, people are just lazy and want all the best stuff without working for it and that's not how any game works.
@KilroyPlays yes I did I was driving when I sent that oops the only thing I'm really going to miss about the old bass defenses is all the apocalypse machines you would get on hard it was very good loot that's the only time it was worth it especially when I played with new players
I'm an og player, I left when the wheel item system came in. I have materials everywhere but I didn't have a base build due to catching up on the story (thought that was the smart thing to do) now I don't have a base can't really build one due to the new materials it's stupid! The drop rates on experimental weapons is ass now. Played 40 hours since coming back and I've received the new ak that's it. I had every region maxed with rivals on returning, farm all of them and get one gun. The augmented system is stupid, I need materials from base defence to buy them but I can't build a base worth defending on hard mode. I'm about ready to go back to destiny. They ruined this game. It once was a beautiful enjoyable game but now, agh I don't really want to invest in it. I'll hang around for the Jan update but if that doesn't fix this crap I'm out for good.
so what i got from that is, things have changed, they made it harder and more fun to grind the game to get the best mats and things in game and now i cant just cheese everything like i used to... stop being so lazy! its not hard you just have to put some effort into the game now! jeez wtf happened to gamers...
@KilroyPlays if the new materials for base building hadn't been added and it was only for augmented guns I wouldn't be as annoyed. This is my side game I have almost 9k hours in destiny 1 and 2 combined, I know all about the grind.
@@KilroyPlays to get the materials to build a base I have to do base defences, I'm a player that can defend a well built base on hard. I can't defend a poorly built base on hard, hard gives you the best return I don't want to run easy or medium to get materials to build another base. Its adding grind to something that was already kinda grindy Even you say the amount of refined materials you get back is a joke and refuse to do it and you make content on this game. I don't understand why you are saying what you have in the 1st comment when you say it yourself in the vid. I do love the fact that you interact with your viewers and have the balls to say what you think. I only recently discovered your channel.
even if you did a base defence on easy for an hour your returns would be 360 phosphorus that breaks down into 72 walls... how is that hard or grindy? one hours work and your first base is built and on the easiest setting? and as for the video i say that the furnace is broken which it is but i say i love the new changes so please don't out words in my mouth as for the comment its 110% true, players are being lazy... they will grind countless hours for rivals which is just killing any machine in a region but wont do the exact same for a base defence which in turn spawns rivals and boosts the region. 🤣 like come on make it make sense please!
I mean technically I can do both, I’d just have to wait till I finished the part by part series and then edit them all together, would end up being a crazy long video though
i need to put a gold lifesteal on my gun but im not looking forward to the hundreds and hundreds of runs of the chemist to get the thousand+ ethanal for each. if i had seen in the pre patch notes these changes i would of spammed the rest of my ammo builds and adrens and hps. this update is cool but i feel less motivated to play as im resorting my my old surplus of special ammo and first aids so either need to up the amount the bases give or ill be playing less and less. i tried one hard and lost my base and had to spend command tokens. once i run out of adrens and packs ill have to resort to scouring the warzone bodies on all four worlds. i also have robots flooding my bases after i finish the defenses
@@KilroyPlays yea, i have one life steal lmg im having to swap between characters. wish i could roll back this update but im mainly playing on xbox so rip.
@@KilroyPlays its everything i have thousand stashed of the good heals but its everything overall that makes it ugh, the new island is cool and weps nice but the rest
tbh the update to crafting is great, the just need to fix the furnace and were chilling, personally people are just being lazy its really not hard to get the required mats for things
15:37 “Players were complaing about not having enough things to do in game, well, guess what, now you’re gonna be complaining about how many base defenses you’re gonna need to farm in order to do anything in game now.” Just to clarify, this not not a solution to the issue of this game having very little to do once you complete the main story and all quests. In the end-game, basically all you can do is farm loot or blueprints, kill rivals and bosses, or do base defenses and assaults. Base defenses and assaults were pretty much the only things IMO that didn’t feel like the same old boring, dull, repetitive slog of killing robots over and over without really any purpose. Reworking what I think was basically the only thing you could do that felt different by adding 3 new buttons to press doesn’t really add any variety. Forcing players to just do something more often and calling it a day is just lazy imo.
its the perfect solution when you dont have funds lol especially for people who enjoy the game for what it is. this is where i can do the gotcha moment on everyone who says the same thing because guess what you all do over and over without it being "terrible or "boring"? you farm machines for hours just to spawn in rivals... guess what you can do over and over again to spawn rivals?? Base Defences! so killing machines over and over again outside of base defences is fun, but as soon as you do it in BD's its "awwwww this game is trash" please someone make it make sense please...
@ okay bro you can’t just say “guess what you all do” without having evidence of every single player’s actions. You have no idea how I play this game. IMO the game was fun but it got boring and repetitive by the time I made it to the marshlands. The only rivals I killed were the ones that spawned in from killing the machines that the game makes you kill. I couldn’t even be bothered to spawn the Reaper bc I value my time and I play video games for fun and I have other things I would rather do. But I’m valid for saying that this update is lazy from my perspective.
i can say "guess what you all do" because its the same silly comments from all you lazy buggers that just complain about everything 🤣 if you don't want a grindy game get off gz its simple! what the devs did with this update is awesome (apart from the ending) and see you just said it there yourself "i have other things i would rather do" exactly my point so its not that fact gz is shit or they're lazy... YOU! just don't want to do it... my point exactly 🤣 GG's Anyways Merry Christmas my friend, take care God Bless! 🎄🎅
I have been forced to start all over from zero. Loaded the game up one night and then it wiped out every save I had. Support just said I am screwed because they can do nothing to help because I am on Xbox. I called bullshit on them because If a friend can join and drop stuff for you, they can to. I lost 70 levels on 1 character and 2 other lvl 45 characters. All materials gone, all bases gone. They just don't give a shit about how they screw over the players and I think this update shows how little they actually care with the new mats being a bitch to try to get. This game can suck a bag of dicks with how they have the base defense missions.
yeah has happened to heaps of us but we just started fresh just one of those things, if we had mad a backup save it wouldnt have happened... as for base defences your just lazy plain and simple
I thought i was doing something wrong, i thought the low count of refined uranium and tungsten was because they managed to destroy some of my structures.. should have watched that video before i wasted half of my resources, but it is what it is i guess. Bullshit. I like what they did with base defences, i like the fact that i finally have something to do, but the rewards are just laughable.
Why did they decide to murder the game with this grindy trash? Its bad enough trying to far weapons and getting hundreds of dupes ans still missing out on what you want. I dont care about base building. I like exploring.the map ans fighting machines. If its going to make me do this trash i guess im done with the game. And it makes me both sad and ashamed for reccomening the crap out of it to others.
the game has always been grindy... people complained theres nothing to do in game so when they finally give you something to do people complain still... damned if you do, damned if you dont i guess.
In typical Kilroy fashion, i have forgotten to take into account the drop rates are different depending what your world difficulty is, so the numbers i gave to you in this video will be for Guerrilla players. if your on a lower difficulty you will receive less than what i mentioned so please keep this in mind everyone! cheers 🤣🤣
To help with the furnace, you can vent it every 30 seconds from the last time it was vented. It’s inconvenient to keep an eye on the time but that might help if you can’t hear it for whatever reason.
haha I'm just imaging someone running around on hard mode getting smashed by machines counting "1, 2, 3, 4, 5" 🤣🤣
if they don't massively increase rewards then I'll just wait for someone to make a mod that increases them. Like a 10x mod or something, because that's insane. No one is playing generation zero to be grindy. They're taking this like it's some game that has a live service, or has some pvp or something like that, instead of a game that is going to be basically dead since they do not intend to ever release another content update.
What they should do is increase what rivals and large enemies drop in the wild and during base defenses, and increase what players get from just normal scavenging, and then for base waves, make it high enough and worth enough to only have to play a few missions to get what you want, not 15 games of hard mode to make like 10 medkits.
I play generation zero for the grind lol and i know a lot of others who do as well... the game is challenging and apparently from all these comments gamers have become super lazy in recent years not willing to do anything for the best of the best equipment and weapons... kinda sad
@@KilroyPlays but the rewards are too low still. Again, you play hard mode like 10-15 times and you make enough to get a handful of medkits.. When I can just go spend the same amount of time looting and find twice as many.
you shouldn't even need to make first aid kits... the amount that get dropped and are found from looting is insane, you just have to put in the hard work to get the best equipment, if you want the best drops play on guerrilla and hard mode and just get better at the game ,when did gamers get so lazy??
then stop whinging and stop playing the game... its not tedium your just being lazy...people like you complained about having nothing to do in generation zero so guess what they gave you? THINGS TO DO! and your still bitching about it...
@@KilroyPlays damn alright. getting butthurt over someones opinion really shows your true colors huh.
Edit: And regardless of what you say, literally every video I've seen in the last week from a youtuber, or a reddit post, or even in steam forums, say the grind is too much and isn't worth it for what you get. So your opinion is that it's fine, but 95% of the rest of the people will disagree with you.
Also it's pretty unprofessional of you act like this as a youtuber. Almost childish in response.
1.3k to 1.9k of the new mats is crazy, nobody with a sense of self respect doing all that.
lol so lazy...
This stupid ass system makes no sense, why not have these buildings just slowly making you the rare resources over time and defense stays how it was, or even finding these rare resources on higher level machines
tbh once they fix the furnace rates this new crafting system will be amazing! people are just lazy and don't want to grind for things to get the best gear, clothing and items sadly
I agree. It’s just a different way to grind for the same damn outcome.
10:00 the tank getting flung bro, ts needa get fixed😭😭🙏
oh thats been in the game years my man, kinda funny at this point
Will you be planning on making a video about which control points make resources [like which ones make Phosphorus for example] and which are best to farm from?
I can do if that’s something you’d be interested in? I can tell you straight up that the revinen control point above and to the right of the farmlands bunker is the best spot for the drill 🔥 only have to defend from one side so you can focus all your defence in a straight line and it’s a turkey shoot for the sniper towers
I'm not 100% sure but if you hover over a non claimed or a base assualt control point it should say up in the top right what resource it gives.
Thank you man, but after seeing this ive deleted my bases and just stick to basics, they did turn into unfun mechanic. Thx man, this saves hours of game time i would have waisted and just enjoy the game the way i always have.
cant really do anything without these new crafting mechanics though so i mean good luck to you sir but i think your being silly
@@KilroyPlays if your playing on hard difficulty i do understand but i play normal so i dont really need end gear stuff to enjoy the game, but tbh the bugs of the game is worse than base defense in my opinion, i might still try base defense, one day. Still enjoy it ngl, been playing about 20 hours the last 2 days just grinding to get experimental weapons.
Id love to see a vid on best bases for each structure as you only need 3 bases now. All older best base locations vids are rather less than useful now cause of the machinery factor. Thanks!
heck yeah i gotchu covered! i have been testing out a few locations so gimme some time and i'll make a video on the best
@KilroyPlays sweet. I don't know how many of each type of base spot there are but it's be handy to not just have like "yep this is the best for X' but the why behind it cause learning make brain grow big lol
having just bought the game and dlc while it was on steam super sale i can't say i agree more with your video (i do still really enjoy the game). I was so confused having just got in after a giant update like this, it felt so unintuitive i had no idea i needed exactly 100 since i didn't have that much. of course i might just be stupid in the ui but now im glad i missed out on doing the furnace defence.
please dont give up on the game because it's so much fun! just give it till January and see if they fix the furnace drop rates because the new BD integration with the game is an awesome feature! it adds so much to your playthrough now :)
I’m on the fence about the changes to machine drops. Although it’s convenient getting the ammo you need from every machine, they said they wanted to incentivise crafting and I haven’t needed to craft a single thing since the update. It also feels strange getting multiple rockets from runners. I think they should do a combination of the old system and the new one where the weapons you are carrying affect the chance of drops, but it is still mostly dictated by the class of machine (eg. Runners don’t drop .50)
yeah i like that about the old system that the class of machine also could dictate the ammo pool in which it dropped from, i 110% agree with the mixed idea tbh because there's no way a runner should be dropping anything other than some shotgun rounds, 9mm and maybe some .270's
They forgot to mention this is if you have all 3 drills running, not just 1.
why would you run 1 drill?? that just doesnt make sense 🤣
@@KilroyPlays New players can't afford resources to make multiple drills first time - I know i couldn't afford it because I had to spend resources on defense also
can't afford the resources?? it uses two of the most commonly found mats in game? if you cant afford to build 3 from the get go your not doing enough looting my friend :)
Good thing I duped on PS4 so long ago, if I ever decide going on the game there again other than the experimentals, but I started new on PC with the new stuff, that's a pain.
the only negative thing is the furnace rate is rubbish other than that the changes are awesome, people complained there was nothing to do, so they finally give people things to do and work for and they just whinge, i feel sorry for the devs honestly 🤣
As a new player, this is just stupid. I was slowly and steadily progressing better armor and weapon augments, and now I've hit a brick wall.
I can't build high wood walls to protect my drills because I need the phosphorus from the drills.
Even when I grind enough to make walls, I'll still have bad weapons and armor which makes it difficult to collect tungsten in the first place.
With low-end armor and augments, I'll have to stick to lower difficulty defense missions and only be able to make a single clothing upgrade.
The game has gone from a fun run and gun robot battle to a slow grindfest. I wish they'd at least put the new materials in rival loot.
see this is where you've got it wrong... GZ was NEVER* a run and gun game it has always been a grind, always... and the amount of good weapons and equipment you'll get even from doing low lvl base defences is insane! again it all comes down to the fact players are lazy and want all the best weapons and equipment for no work...
@KilroyPlays as a newer player, I haven't been grinding for uniques or farming the titan. I've just been doing the missions and looting the houses along the way, occasionally taking out a nearby occupied control point.
I did finally do the base defense mission, and the medium defense wasn't that bad. I haven't worked up the courage to try a hard one yet. I think I need to rearrange some defenses.
With 42 phosphorus only making 8 tall wood walls, it's going to take a while to make enough walls for a second base to farm chems.
i have a question do you need resources to fix buildings when you use the red toolbox?
no, thankfully it just repairs them for you
Thank god i have a 2nd character that has nothing but thousands of advanced med kits like 90k of them and another character dedicated to nothing but exp ammo because this new system is beyond annoying
nah the new system is goated! furnace rates need changing but on guerrilla difficulty im chilling with the numbers i get from the new BD system
Me and a friend did medium difficulty
And We did tungsten and uranium 2 different runs and we got 11 uranium and 15 tungsten
Yeah please don’t waste your uranium! Wait till the January fix
How do i get tunsten and uraniam efficiently
as of right now you can't, we need to wait until January patch
I have just come back after 5 years to this game and I gotta ask. What the heck is that skill/attachment that is allowing you to act like you are from “Wanted” on this game? The bullet magnet looks sickly!
do you mean the new experimental hp5 where all the bullets spiral and what not and lock onto the targets?
@ Ahhh that’s what it is. Man when I left I had all the experimentals. Didn’t realize there were more to get. Imma have to get dirty with some of these rivals
the new boss the vulture is easier than rivals to farm for exp weapons now :) good luck farming g 💪 lemme know if you get the new ones
@@KilroyPlays Oh snap, I didn’t know about the vulture. I’ll go watch some videos on it!
Happy I had the augments on Xbox nearly maxed out, also the minigun with fast reload from killing the reaper just feels nice
the minigun is so good! you cant not like a minigun ayy 🥳
All I really want to know is the distance I can safely build structures so the chemical plant won't destroy the structures intended to protect it.
chem lab is a radius of 5-6 blocks all around, and the furnace i gave it 10 blocks just in front of the exhaust vent
@KilroyPlays the number values definitely help to allow for better space optimization and planning for where to put everything
it's mentioned in the video :)
I think to balance things out they should buff crafting so when you have the materials the amout you get is actually worth it, because one med kit for 5 ethanol is absurd
110% agree but at the same time I gotta tell ya on my character that I currently play on I don’t think I’ve ever made a first aid kit 🤣 but for others I understand it might be rough! I think the worst part is the furnace tbh the conversion rates are so bad
@@KilroyPlays The crafting as a whole needs a buff luckily i have 10s of thousands of ammo and thousands of medkit saved up so i'm good lol
the refined items yes but the rest is fine, you want the best stuff you have to grind for it like any other game...
I just wanna make the refined tungsten alloy in peace lol how do i do that
you have to waste hundreds of tungsten in the furnace and make sure to do it on hard mode or you get nothing out of that 100
not gonna lie, just to make it interesting i might just start working on the furnace sweetspots of howmuch of each metal you can put in to not lose alot of the harder to grind materials course doing something will take time and will be requiring me to use alot of resources to end up finding the optimal result but ill get there as its only a matter of time
i would honestly just wait till the January patch its not worth risking uranium
yeah you can mix and match any amount as long as theres 100 metal
@KilroyPlays how are ya mate. Any tips on how to get the "HP5 & AK76 Experimental Weapons?" Ever since getting the Sjoqvist Experimental Shotty early in the piece (which I got real easily), I've drawn a blank.... 😞 ..
not doing bad my friend, how are you travelling? and as for experimentals the drop rates i think have been tweaked cause i know a lot of people having issues getting them. i think your best bet is the vulture as its a guaranteed exp drop. i'll have a new farming guide coming out in a few days though :)
I got my MP5 from an apocalypse level 4 rival tank I believe. That's the only new experimental I got
I wish the old bass of salt were still in the game so we can have the option between the new base assaults and the old
I think you mean base defences cause base assaults haven't changed, but more importantly the new changes to BD's are great! the old system had no involvement in the game whatsoever at least now its apart of the game, people are just lazy and want all the best stuff without working for it and that's not how any game works.
@KilroyPlays yes I did I was driving when I sent that oops the only thing I'm really going to miss about the old bass defenses is all the apocalypse machines you would get on hard it was very good loot that's the only time it was worth it especially when I played with new players
Yeah i'll agree on that, i will miss the loot, especially the extra uranium which is in short supply constantly
@@KilroyPlays for sure I hope they bring back the apocalypse machines and make it so it's more rewarding as well
Yeah, I think I'm about done with this game after this update. I'm not doing these assault missions for resources.
the update is awesome, shame your not willing to grind for the best gear but that is your opinion sir :)
I'm an og player, I left when the wheel item system came in.
I have materials everywhere but I didn't have a base build due to catching up on the story (thought that was the smart thing to do) now I don't have a base can't really build one due to the new materials it's stupid! The drop rates on experimental weapons is ass now. Played 40 hours since coming back and I've received the new ak that's it. I had every region maxed with rivals on returning, farm all of them and get one gun. The augmented system is stupid, I need materials from base defence to buy them but I can't build a base worth defending on hard mode. I'm about ready to go back to destiny. They ruined this game.
It once was a beautiful enjoyable game but now, agh I don't really want to invest in it.
I'll hang around for the Jan update but if that doesn't fix this crap I'm out for good.
so what i got from that is, things have changed, they made it harder and more fun to grind the game to get the best mats and things in game and now i cant just cheese everything like i used to... stop being so lazy! its not hard you just have to put some effort into the game now! jeez wtf happened to gamers...
@KilroyPlays if the new materials for base building hadn't been added and it was only for augmented guns I wouldn't be as annoyed. This is my side game I have almost 9k hours in destiny 1 and 2 combined, I know all about the grind.
then i dont see why your upset about the changes...
@@KilroyPlays to get the materials to build a base I have to do base defences, I'm a player that can defend a well built base on hard. I can't defend a poorly built base on hard, hard gives you the best return I don't want to run easy or medium to get materials to build another base. Its adding grind to something that was already kinda grindy
Even you say the amount of refined materials you get back is a joke and refuse to do it and you make content on this game. I don't understand why you are saying what you have in the 1st comment when you say it yourself in the vid.
I do love the fact that you interact with your viewers and have the balls to say what you think. I only recently discovered your channel.
even if you did a base defence on easy for an hour your returns would be 360 phosphorus that breaks down into 72 walls... how is that hard or grindy? one hours work and your first base is built and on the easiest setting? and as for the video i say that the furnace is broken which it is but i say i love the new changes so please don't out words in my mouth
as for the comment its 110% true, players are being lazy... they will grind countless hours for rivals which is just killing any machine in a region but wont do the exact same for a base defence which in turn spawns rivals and boosts the region. 🤣 like come on make it make sense please!
I would love to see a new playthrough, I love the game but my pc cant run it. This update looks incredible!
Hells yeah I have to start a new character for the updated collectible guides so I’ll kill two birds with one stone 🔥🔥
@KilroyPlays can't wait! Will you do it part by part or a massive vid?
I mean technically I can do both, I’d just have to wait till I finished the part by part series and then edit them all together, would end up being a crazy long video though
i need to put a gold lifesteal on my gun but im not looking forward to the hundreds and hundreds of runs of the chemist to get the thousand+ ethanal for each.
if i had seen in the pre patch notes these changes i would of spammed the rest of my ammo builds and adrens and hps. this update is cool but i feel less motivated to play as im resorting my my old surplus of special ammo and first aids so either need to up the amount the bases give or ill be playing less and less. i tried one hard and lost my base and had to spend command tokens.
once i run out of adrens and packs ill have to resort to scouring the warzone bodies on all four worlds.
i also have robots flooding my bases after i finish the defenses
yeah the ethanol is kinda wild especially if your on a lower difficulty
@@KilroyPlays yea, i have one life steal lmg im having to swap between characters. wish i could roll back this update but im mainly playing on xbox so rip.
tbh if heals are your main concern start doing weekly challenges as the amout=nt of heals and exp heals you get are insane
@@KilroyPlays its everything i have thousand stashed of the good heals but its everything overall that makes it ugh, the new island is cool and weps nice but the rest
tbh the update to crafting is great, the just need to fix the furnace and were chilling, personally people are just being lazy its really not hard to get the required mats for things
All my augments got wiped from my guns after the update😐
time to grind! 🥳
15:37 “Players were complaing about not having enough things to do in game, well, guess what, now you’re gonna be complaining about how many base defenses you’re gonna need to farm in order to do anything in game now.”
Just to clarify, this not not a solution to the issue of this game having very little to do once you complete the main story and all quests. In the end-game, basically all you can do is farm loot or blueprints, kill rivals and bosses, or do base defenses and assaults. Base defenses and assaults were pretty much the only things IMO that didn’t feel like the same old boring, dull, repetitive slog of killing robots over and over without really any purpose. Reworking what I think was basically the only thing you could do that felt different by adding 3 new buttons to press doesn’t really add any variety. Forcing players to just do something more often and calling it a day is just lazy imo.
its the perfect solution when you dont have funds lol especially for people who enjoy the game for what it is. this is where i can do the gotcha moment on everyone who says the same thing because guess what you all do over and over without it being "terrible or "boring"? you farm machines for hours just to spawn in rivals... guess what you can do over and over again to spawn rivals?? Base Defences! so killing machines over and over again outside of base defences is fun, but as soon as you do it in BD's its "awwwww this game is trash" please someone make it make sense please...
@ okay bro you can’t just say “guess what you all do” without having evidence of every single player’s actions. You have no idea how I play this game. IMO the game was fun but it got boring and repetitive by the time I made it to the marshlands. The only rivals I killed were the ones that spawned in from killing the machines that the game makes you kill. I couldn’t even be bothered to spawn the Reaper bc I value my time and I play video games for fun and I have other things I would rather do. But I’m valid for saying that this update is lazy from my perspective.
i can say "guess what you all do" because its the same silly comments from all you lazy buggers that just complain about everything 🤣 if you don't want a grindy game get off gz its simple! what the devs did with this update is awesome (apart from the ending) and see you just said it there yourself "i have other things i would rather do" exactly my point so its not that fact gz is shit or they're lazy... YOU! just don't want to do it... my point exactly 🤣 GG's
Anyways Merry Christmas my friend, take care God Bless! 🎄🎅
@ I’m pulling ur chain man I play War Thunder which is wayyyyy more of a grind than this 😁. Merry Christmas bot slayer 🫡
Its disappointing because crafting was super useful before now its just not worth the time to grind for resources
the only thing wrong with crafting now is the furnace refined metals other than that the crafting update is siiiiick
I have been forced to start all over from zero. Loaded the game up one night and then it wiped out every save I had. Support just said I am screwed because they can do nothing to help because I am on Xbox. I called bullshit on them because If a friend can join and drop stuff for you, they can to. I lost 70 levels on 1 character and 2 other lvl 45 characters. All materials gone, all bases gone. They just don't give a shit about how they screw over the players and I think this update shows how little they actually care with the new mats being a bitch to try to get. This game can suck a bag of dicks with how they have the base defense missions.
yeah has happened to heaps of us but we just started fresh just one of those things, if we had mad a backup save it wouldnt have happened... as for base defences your just lazy plain and simple
Will not be doing this bs. Love generation zero and will keep playing it but these conversion rates are pure dookie
for the furnace yes but if you play on a high difficulty its fine
I thought i was doing something wrong, i thought the low count of refined uranium and tungsten was because they managed to destroy some of my structures.. should have watched that video before i wasted half of my resources, but it is what it is i guess. Bullshit. I like what they did with base defences, i like the fact that i finally have something to do, but the rewards are just laughable.
Just wait till January my friend thats when we will get a patch for the rewards and hopefully they fix the bloody furnace ayy
They better fix it in January
i hope its just the furnace and not the whole thing just because people are lazy and dont wanna work for the best equipment and weapons though
second!!! :D , also....18 pieces of phosphorus on easy mode? D: I only getting 9 , 3 per drill.
what difficulty are you on??
@KilroyPlays skirmish hahaha maybe thats why
yeah your world difficulty will determine the drops sadly, man i can't imagine grinding for these on a lower difficulty 😅
@@KilroyPlays I will try in guerrilla then, ty for much for the info
Why did they decide to murder the game with this grindy trash?
Its bad enough trying to far weapons and getting hundreds of dupes ans still missing out on what you want. I dont care about base building. I like exploring.the map ans fighting machines.
If its going to make me do this trash i guess im done with the game. And it makes me both sad and ashamed for reccomening the crap out of it to others.
the game has always been grindy... people complained theres nothing to do in game so when they finally give you something to do people complain still... damned if you do, damned if you dont i guess.
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Is this a joke? I mean, the devs must really hate us.
why? cause they made some fun additions to the game? yeah they must really hate you...
I'm a new player 😑
hi new player
This is so horse shit
lazy