Injustice 2 - High Level FT10 - UndeadJim (Cyborg) vs xZoro (Swamp Thing/Supergirl)

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  • Опубліковано 14 гру 2017
  • It's a birmingham brawl in this FT10! Training partners UndeadJim and xZoro go head to head.
    This is the first FT10 where Cyborg was brought out. Also, fun fact is that UndeadJim plays on a Hitbox, so his instant airs are especially crisp and consistent.
    Broadcasted live on Twitch -- Watch live at / pndketchup
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  • @PNDKM
    @PNDKM  6 років тому +37

    UndeadJim plays on a hitbox, which is a different type of controller that is in the shape of an arcade stick, but replaces the stick itself with 4 buttons, each button being one of the 4 movements.
    This means that techniques like instant airs are especially consistent and crisp when mastered. Which is why Jim had super impressive consistency with the Cyborg zoning. On top of having the awareness to control the screen with trait when he knew movement was likely. There are some insane conversions in this set.
    We're glad we could provide a little more high level Cyborg, not enough people use this character these days.

    • @toheeb07
      @toheeb07 6 років тому +3

      PNDK&M cyborg is a tough match up for Swamp thing especially since the best he can hope for with those air shots is a trade with the clone

    • @DeAdLyxReBeL
      @DeAdLyxReBeL 6 років тому

      PNDK&M Can I play my swamp in a ft 10 I think it will be at the highest level.

    • @Kaihass.
      @Kaihass. 6 років тому +2

      I've been trying to learn cyborg for ages now. Loving every minute playing him!

    • @nicolasreynoso2965
      @nicolasreynoso2965 6 років тому

      True, for me, playing in a hitbox is like playing in a keyboard, i have 4 buttons for movement, and a lot of fingers for that amount of buttons (not like in joystick that you only have your thumb). I really love playing in keyboard/hitbox it makes a lot of thing easier (in keyboard, if you have problems with some string/special, you can change any button to make it easier, in MK, i have a block button and a meterburn button, for example).
      Love your videos guys, keep it up!

    • @irlredline7965
      @irlredline7965 6 років тому

      DeAdLyxReBeL i fought you you were playing Raiden

  • @Naxus2
    @Naxus2 6 років тому +32

    Honestly the best part of cyborgs zoning is the squeaky sound his cannon makes.

    • @oinkleberry
      @oinkleberry 6 років тому +5

      It is supposed to be a sonic blaster, right? Appropriate & satisfying.

  • @RoastBushTurkey
    @RoastBushTurkey 6 років тому +17

    Thank you so much for the high-level cyborg. Having him as my current main means finding good high level vids of him is really rare. Thanks!

    • @arketa6496
      @arketa6496 6 років тому

      RoastBushTurkey lol this cyborg is just abusing zoning

    • @constantlydisoriented5311
      @constantlydisoriented5311 6 років тому +1

      UA Arketa well ya thats how hes played...

    • @kenhuang1841
      @kenhuang1841 6 років тому +5

      UA Arketa You obviously don't know how hard it is to insta-air shot consistently without fail. It takes a huge amount of practice to get the hang of it.

    • @Rizzo91
      @Rizzo91 6 років тому +2

      UA Arketa #scrubtalk

    • @arketa6496
      @arketa6496 6 років тому

      Huang Phoenix I can do it consistently on a Xbox controller 😂, on a hitbox its 1million times easier

  • @megablasterx6510
    @megablasterx6510 6 років тому +6

    Thanks for the ft10s, such an awesome and exciting series. You guys are awesome commentators too. Always bringing in the hype

  • @MrStupidfresh1
    @MrStupidfresh1 4 роки тому +2

    Hey, just wanted to say thanks for keeping these up. I feel like being able to watch these helps me relax from work and I have a blast explaining the game to my ladymate. PS, I'd be on the lookout for a Birmingham Brawl on the horizon. too good a name to not be a thing

  • @andyliddiard6881
    @andyliddiard6881 6 років тому +7

    Those conversions off the roomba were the sexiest I've ever seen.

    • @roycastanon5754
      @roycastanon5754 6 років тому +4

      Andy Liddiard yeah his rockets and his roomba lead to some of the coolest combos in the game

  • @just_2swift
    @just_2swift 6 років тому +41

    Buff cyborg

  • @vincentwidjaja688
    @vincentwidjaja688 6 років тому +4

    I'm amazed with UndeadJim's zoning play

  • @SNRGYHappyPow
    @SNRGYHappyPow 6 років тому +12

    Ayyyyye look at those IAs!!! UndeadJim has to be a real life Cyborg!! BOI

    • @JovonPoole
      @JovonPoole 6 років тому +1

      SNRGY HappyPow Happypow.! We have to do a set again now that my dpad is fixed

    • @stephonthomas9742
      @stephonthomas9742 6 років тому

      SNRGY HappyPow my borg. Is better. My psn is Lord0fdaflyzz.

  • @bautistacardozo7092
    @bautistacardozo7092 6 років тому +3

    Dude, Jim's Cyborg looks really clean. He should give it a shot at a major, it's looking scary. Not a single instant air messed up.
    Let's not look down on Zoro tho, that was a good display of Swamp Thing, Supergirl and Atrocitus
    And of course, cheers K&M for the commentary and insight of the match

  • @randomerpro
    @randomerpro 6 років тому +3

    Hey Ketchup and/or Mustard, do you lads have some good Atom gameplay from your buddies or yourself?

  • @ProjecEnvoy
    @ProjecEnvoy 6 років тому +2

    Everyone complaining about zoning from Cyborg clearly doesn't play cyborg as his entire moves is designed to strictly zone. His strings are awful compared to ST and a lot of characters so he can't afford to let swamp be in range. Mb roll gets you blown up

  • @ThemataFGC
    @ThemataFGC 6 років тому +1

    "Some nobody called Jet just beat Slayer!"
    VSF memes aside, I ran a set with xZoro's Swamp just last night and got thoroughly mopped. Even without my lack of experience in the MU I was being regularly outplayed, he's incredibly solid with the character and utilised his tools & frames better than anyone I've seen other than Crazyfingers. Anyone attempting to discredit his performance needs to acknowledge the difficulties of contesting zoning as strong as Jim's Cyborg, the IA shot consistency was filthy and he was consistently fuzzying the pressure where he could when xZoro got in. Overall very tidy play from both.

  • @ProjecEnvoy
    @ProjecEnvoy 6 років тому +1

    Not to mention in a set he knew he was outmatched but chose to play the uphill battle tons of characters counter zoning

  • @lewiscutler489
    @lewiscutler489 6 років тому +3

    Representing the brummy Bois!

  • @freshANDhesh
    @freshANDhesh 6 років тому +2

    Both these guys are class acts.

  • @toheeb07
    @toheeb07 6 років тому +3

    Xzoro should have used the armor Swamp thing has when trait is active, especially after a block string because they always get challenged

    • @PNDKM
      @PNDKM  6 років тому +4

      Armour won't work against Cyborg in most cases because constant instant airs make cyborg leave the ground, therefore immune to grabs. Up close it probably will, but swamp thing was rarely in that situation.

    • @toheeb07
      @toheeb07 6 років тому +4

      PNDK&M not the grabs, the tree special or the standing 3, you do have a point though. How can I apply for the ft10, lots of Swamp thing tech I'd like to share

  • @rommy215
    @rommy215 6 років тому +1

    Here can I find a hitbox?

    • @arketa6496
      @arketa6496 6 років тому +1

      Philly cheesesteak online

  • @limbomadara8272
    @limbomadara8272 6 років тому

    Why doesn’t anyone use Cyborgs command grab?

    • @BlessMyHoRizoN
      @BlessMyHoRizoN 6 років тому +4

      it hits high and is very punishable, on top of that the uppercut (not the d2) does more damage anyways

  • @paulreed3778
    @paulreed3778 6 років тому

    wow, a lot of people complaining about the zoning, if you don't like it don't watch. This is Injustice and is a more zone heavy keep away style fighting game compared to MK.

  • @thebatmane2220
    @thebatmane2220 6 років тому

    There’s a big difference between zoning and spam, just because cyborg has projectiles doesn’t mean he’s a zoning character.

  • @upplsuckimcool16
    @upplsuckimcool16 6 років тому

    I don't think those are fuzzy's I think he's straight up reacting......
    I actually think it's fairly simple to react to the overheads or lows form swamp thing..... I had never fougth a good one the fist itme I saw this vid, then i di and tried fuzzying and it didn't work for me.... but then i tried simply just reacting, and it worked good.just stay crouched and react to the mid overhead or the leg for the low.

  • @bliip
    @bliip 6 років тому

    Ok so what i gathered from this is basically zoning = floyd mayweather
    Looked down upon, but gets the job done.

  • @moodsmoods3905
    @moodsmoods3905 6 років тому +1

    Cyborg look like destorm

  • @bushgold4957
    @bushgold4957 6 років тому

    No mattet who plays cyborg its gonna always look the same the only vary is if theyre an insta airer or not

    • @jojowilliams8965
      @jojowilliams8965 4 роки тому +2

      I mean Cyborg is low tier for a reason. If he had 3 or 4 play styles he would be fantastic

  • @dreambot3939
    @dreambot3939 6 років тому +1

    Sup

  • @swaggermcjagger4266
    @swaggermcjagger4266 5 років тому +1

    what a disgusting cyborg

  • @bl00dInUrFace
    @bl00dInUrFace 6 років тому +1

    Dont understand y so many complain about zoning. It's really not that hard to counter pick imo.

  • @brother_Tennessee
    @brother_Tennessee 6 років тому +1

    this isn't a high level match, it is sort of like casual play, I would like to see sonic fox play as cyborg

    • @gothamcitygoon2491
      @gothamcitygoon2491 6 років тому +2

      Its a high level casual set lol, both of these players have competed in tournaments and done well so how is it not high level?

    • @13JacksonMr
      @13JacksonMr 6 років тому

      Tennessean Sonic Fox would be doing the same thing that Undeadjim would be doing, but with probably a bit more setups.

  • @Beastosterone
    @Beastosterone 6 років тому +1

    poor Swamp Thang

  • @KyleKP1
    @KyleKP1 6 років тому

    I hate cybord

  • @MustangNinjas
    @MustangNinjas 6 років тому +10

    Zone heavy matches like this remind me why I stopped playing this game. I could feel the frustration radiating off of the Swamp Thing player.

    • @constantlydisoriented5311
      @constantlydisoriented5311 6 років тому +1

      It is frustrating

    • @constantlydisoriented5311
      @constantlydisoriented5311 6 років тому

      MustangNinjas the game is so zone heavy that at some points you kinda have to zone goo

    • @constantlydisoriented5311
      @constantlydisoriented5311 6 років тому

      Too*

    • @gatorfan122394
      @gatorfan122394 6 років тому +1

      I quit the game for this exact reason. I tried to accept it as a different kind of game, but it's just no fun

    • @arketa6496
      @arketa6496 6 років тому +1

      MustangNinjas I agree, I wouldnt quit over it but abusing zoning is a very bitch play style

  • @metrihunnit
    @metrihunnit 6 років тому

    First what’s up

  • @arketa6496
    @arketa6496 6 років тому +7

    How can you guys commentate this? This is zoning abuse and a non optimal swamp thing.. No hate but this gameplay is boring, xzoro didn't even mb roll once, or backdash the projectiles the chip damage overtime is crazy for cyborg. He could have used push block a lot more to keep him in corner and avoid being negative after cyborgs block strings. The cyborg played well considering the matchup but personally I couldn't respect abuse of zoning

    • @PNDKM
      @PNDKM  6 років тому +38

      Nothing you just said is actually correct.

    • @arketa6496
      @arketa6496 6 років тому +2

      PNDK&M I respect your opinion but I can't see anything factually wrong with what I said

    • @PNDKM
      @PNDKM  6 років тому +15

      UA Arketa Doesnt change how wrong you actually are.
      Mb roll would simply be a waste of meter considering swamp thing has a move that goes under projectiles.
      Backdashing makes no sense whatsoever if you're trying to close in space. unless you're backdashing 112 up close.
      Pushblocking to keep him in the corner doesn't work because you're at a good range for cyborg to get out afterwards. It gives him room to either grapple, mb roll etc.
      Armoured full screen grabs are irrelevant when cyborg spends the whole game in the air via instant air projectiles.
      I can continue if you want but it's pointless. Discredit all you like, but your points are incorrect.

    • @PNDKM
      @PNDKM  6 років тому +13

      UA Arketa I did elaborate.
      Your points on the matchup are not valid because they don't work. I hate to be that guy. But it's not a "clash of opinion", you are straight up wrong.
      Also, it's cyborg. Zoning is all he is designed to do. Thats how you play the character.

    • @arketa6496
      @arketa6496 6 років тому +3

      PNDK&M swamp things bf3 isn't fully reliable and is unsafe when extended. Mb roll is still incredibly viable in that matchup, if cyborgs trait, rockets and projectile is used you can't bf3 it, you mb roll and punish. When low trait is used cyborg is always expecting a jump and he has answers for jumping. You can bait the read and mb roll for a punish
      I didn't mention armored grab.
      Back dashing zoning is viable (full screen) because the projectiles are mids
      Push block is incredibly useful, it leaves the opponent at the perfect range for swamp things standing 3, d3, df1b especially on cyborg because he sucks in neutral