Why Dr. Shawn Baker (King of Carnivore) Added FRUIT to his Diet

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  • @ThomasDeLauerOfficial
    @ThomasDeLauerOfficial  7 місяців тому +38

    Here’s my newest FREE Meal Plan (High Protein Mediterranean with some Intermittent Fasting)- thomasdelauer.com/MediterraneanFasting/ Please enjoy it as a thank-you for subscribing to my channel and my newsletter!

    • @davidpeterson4361
      @davidpeterson4361 7 місяців тому +2

      😅

    • @KristianGerard
      @KristianGerard 7 місяців тому +1

      what's up with the rounded shoulders/bad posture? with these heavy lifters?

    • @juansqh
      @juansqh 7 місяців тому +13

      Great video! What I could summarize as core ideas:
      *Reason for Adding Fruit:* The inclusion of fruit was part of an experiment related to the "lean mass hyper-responder" theory and the lipid energy model. This theory suggests that in a low-carb state, cholesterol levels can vary based on carbohydrate intake. By adding fruit (specifically apples), Dr. Baker aimed to see if this would affect his cholesterol levels. However, he observed no significant changes.
      *Experiment Outcome:* Dr. Baker noted no difference in his cholesterol levels after adding fruit to his diet. He speculated that his body composition at the time might not have been lean enough to see an effect. He also mentioned experiencing some gut irritation from the fruit, leading him to discontinue its inclusion.
      *Broader Perspective on Diet:* Despite being a strong advocate for the carnivore diet, Dr. Baker is not dogmatic about it. He emphasizes experimentation and finding what works best for individual health and fitness. He acknowledges that he occasionally diverges from the strict carnivore diet.
      *Lean Mass Hyper-Responder Explained:* This concept, developed by Dave Feldman, identifies individuals with specific cholesterol and triglyceride levels in a low-carb state, suggesting a possible protective effect against heart disease. However, Dr. Baker stresses that more research is needed to fully understand the implications of high LDL cholesterol levels in healthy individuals.
      *Personal Observations on Carbohydrates and Performance:* Dr. Baker discusses his experiences with carbohydrate consumption in relation to physical performance and recovery. He suggests that while carbs can enhance performance, their impact varies widely among individuals, depending on factors like underlying health issues and personal goals.
      *Carbohydrates for Athletes:* For athletes or highly active individuals, Dr. Baker acknowledges the undeniable performance benefits of carbohydrates. However, he advises moderation and consideration of personal health and dietary tolerance.
      *Nutritional Nuances of Meat:* The discussion touches on the quality of meat, including the benefits of grass-fed and pasture-raised options. While Dr. Baker supports regenerative agriculture for environmental reasons, he notes that health outcomes between grain-fed and grass-fed meat consumption are not significantly different in his observation.
      *Fish and Other Protein Sources:* Although the focus is often on red meat, Dr. Baker doesn't dismiss the value of fish and poultry, suggesting that a variety of protein sources can be beneficial.
      *Conclusion:* Dr. Baker highlights the importance of individual experimentation with diet. He stresses that while the carnivore diet works well for many, it's crucial to remain open to adjustments based on personal health needs and performance goals.

    • @jakemelinko
      @jakemelinko 7 місяців тому

      ​@@KristianGerardit's the same thing that many people in many walks of life have, but not these two. I'd explain it to you but the question wasn't genuine, now was it? I see all your comments are kinda shitty and whiney and that your connective tissue is too loose to gain that kind of muscle.

    • @kirks.1854
      @kirks.1854 5 місяців тому

      Baker went from being a circus carnie to a fruit, lol

  • @loicdrloopang5671
    @loicdrloopang5671 7 місяців тому +72

    STOP your clickbait Thomas ! Shame on you for misleading ... Your content is good already, you shouldn't have to do that,,

    • @jackberetta1
      @jackberetta1 5 місяців тому

      He just love to make programs with people that end carnivorous lifestyle. The reason not to follow him

    • @CarsonHughes85
      @CarsonHughes85 Місяць тому +4

      Agreed!

  • @dantheman9219
    @dantheman9219 7 місяців тому +1098

    A more honest title for this video would be : S. Baker added fruit to his diet for a week as an experiment and STOPPED, felt worse for it... no change in the gym and upset GI tract, and back to full carnivore after a week..... Your titles implies he is now eating fruits for good, which is totally FALSE...

    • @stevetb7777
      @stevetb7777 7 місяців тому +35

      Thomas has many times come to the comments section to apologize for using clickbait titles. He's stated that it is necessary for the views, though he hates doing it. Yadda yadda. =D It was entirely believable though, that this could happen given that Saladino did actually do that on a permanent basis.

    • @shynebull
      @shynebull 7 місяців тому

      Thomas is a tool. I can’t believe people listen to him. He has nothing to say so he says anything for clicks.

    • @ArrowGreen-wq9ui
      @ArrowGreen-wq9ui 7 місяців тому +20

      So deceitful. 😂

    • @jakemelinko
      @jakemelinko 7 місяців тому +15

      It's called a headline, you have to go into it to find the whole story. I had no problem guessing the scoop.

    • @janetherriott3215
      @janetherriott3215 7 місяців тому +26

      Clickbait!

  • @juansqh
    @juansqh 7 місяців тому +163

    Great video! A quick summary:
    *Reason for Adding Fruit:* The inclusion of fruit was part of an experiment related to the "lean mass hyper-responder" theory and the lipid energy model. This theory suggests that in a low-carb state, cholesterol levels can vary based on carbohydrate intake. By adding fruit (specifically apples), Dr. Baker aimed to see if this would affect his cholesterol levels. However, he observed no significant changes.
    *Experiment Outcome:* Dr. Baker noted no difference in his cholesterol levels after adding fruit to his diet. He speculated that his body composition at the time might not have been lean enough to see an effect. He also mentioned experiencing some gut irritation from the fruit, leading him to discontinue its inclusion.
    *Broader Perspective on Diet:* Despite being a strong advocate for the carnivore diet, Dr. Baker is not dogmatic about it. He emphasizes experimentation and finding what works best for individual health and fitness. He acknowledges that he occasionally diverges from the strict carnivore diet for experimental reasons.
    *Lean Mass Hyper-Responder Explained:* This concept, developed by Dave Feldman, identifies individuals with specific cholesterol and triglyceride levels in a low-carb state, suggesting a possible protective effect against heart disease. However, Dr. Baker stresses that more research is needed to fully understand the implications of high LDL cholesterol levels in healthy individuals.
    *Personal Observations on Carbohydrates and Performance:* Dr. Baker discusses his experiences with carbohydrate consumption in relation to physical performance and recovery. He suggests that while carbs can enhance performance, their impact varies widely among individuals, depending on factors like underlying health issues and personal goals.
    *Carbohydrates for Athletes:* For athletes or highly active individuals, Dr. Baker acknowledges the undeniable performance benefits of carbohydrates. However, he advises moderation and consideration of personal health and dietary tolerance.
    *Nutritional Nuances of Meat:* The discussion touches on the quality of meat, including the benefits of grass-fed and pasture-raised options. While Dr. Baker supports regenerative agriculture for environmental reasons, he notes that health outcomes between grain-fed and grass-fed meat consumption are not significantly different in his observation.
    *Fish and Other Protein Sources:* Although the focus is often on red meat, Dr. Baker doesn't dismiss the value of fish and poultry, suggesting that a variety of protein sources can be beneficial.
    *Conclusion:* Dr. Baker highlights the importance of individual experimentation with diet. He stresses that while the carnivore diet works well for many, it's crucial to remain open to adjustments based on personal health needs and performance goals.

  • @Element_y
    @Element_y 7 місяців тому +434

    There was a story not long ago about a guy who was floating around in the ocean in a life raft for months. He began catching fish but discarded a lot of the 'gross' parts that did not look appealing to him. After some time, he noted that he began to crave, for reasons unknown to him, the fish's eyeballs. Like, he suddenly was attracted to them and he had strong urges to eat them. Long story short, his body naturally identified the need for Vitamin K, and instructed his body to crave it. I treat my carnivore diet in this way. If I crave beef, or chicken, or bacon, one day over the other, I go with it. I noticed my I had daydreams about strawberries and blackberries, and I took that as a hint. Whenever I crave them, I have a little. This happens to me with honey sometimes too. My body is telling me what it needs, and I roll with it. I feel a lot better as a result.

    • @blubblurb
      @blubblurb 7 місяців тому +104

      Hmm, it's probably true but personally I have to be careful with that. Otherwise I would end up eating Oreo and potate chips all day long.

    • @KevboKev
      @KevboKev 7 місяців тому +27

      I can never do honey, as that would send me into a bad area of eating more sugar, but if it works for you and makes you feel better, that is the ONLY thing that matters. :-) Great work.

    • @jeanettenejadi1777
      @jeanettenejadi1777 7 місяців тому

      @blubblurp You should begin with the protein and then with natural sweets like honey and fruits. After your body get enough protein it wouldn’t want to eat lots of sweets. There are studies which show that body needs specific amount of protein daily. If you eat meat, eggs, … first your body doesn’t ask for other foods in big amount. If you begin with chips (as example) the body want to eat so much from that till the needed amount of protein ist filled up. As the amount of protein in chips is low you must eat lots of them to get the protein your body needs. Look into “mood cure”

    • @tragicevans4157
      @tragicevans4157 7 місяців тому +3

      I added sugar to my chicken barbecue marinade and let it marinate for 8 hours. It tastes so delicious!

    • @DyceFreak
      @DyceFreak 7 місяців тому +7

      Vitamin C is a thing.

  • @WireHedd
    @WireHedd 7 місяців тому +130

    Been a keto/carnivore for a few years now and Dr Baker's guidance on that journey was instrumental. I tell everyone that Dr Baker saved my life and I mean it.

    • @MaxMustermann-lr8dd
      @MaxMustermann-lr8dd 7 місяців тому +5

      Context?
      Do you have a list of severe food intolerances and/or have you been morbidly overweight?
      Will you stick to the carnivore diet for life or will you re-introduce certain vegetables/fruit if possible?

    • @WireHedd
      @WireHedd 7 місяців тому

      @@MaxMustermann-lr8dd Was 401lbs, taking heavy dose opioids for 12 years, severe psoriatic arthritis and only able to walk a few steps at a time. This was all due to a long term severe psoriasis caused by a severe infection.
      I had been extremely healthy and strong when I was young.
      I adopted a keto WOE for about a year and lost over 100lbs, quit the pain killers cold turkey against medical advice, began taking 5-10 steps at a time and increased activity as I was able. This was due to Thomas here, Dr Ken Berry and Dr. Baker and the information they gave.
      Adopted a carnivore/keto 80/20 WOE with seasonal adjustment and have been as lean as 175lbs at 10% body fat. I normally walk around at 185lbs and 12% body fat these days.
      Resumed Jiu Jitsu instruction and walk an average of 5-10km a day.
      Currently down a peg waiting for a few repairs from a screwed up heavy lift at work that tore my hip up.
      Nonetheless I have a treadmill and stepper and a few other health and fitness tools I can use in one room and I will be back and better than ever.
      As of now my diet is mostly beef, eggs, plain yogurt with occasional blueberries or raspberries in the yogurt.
      I'm 57 and 6 foot.
      That's the short version of the story.

    • @mooncat.787
      @mooncat.787 7 місяців тому +2

      In what way did Doc Baker save your life ?

    • @WireHedd
      @WireHedd 7 місяців тому

      @@mooncat.787 The advice he gave prompted me to adopt a carnivore WOE which was extremely effective in reversing severe medical issues I had been facing.

    • @DigitalWithEva
      @DigitalWithEva 7 місяців тому +2

      What do you eat when you’re keto? Thank you.

  • @KH-vp4ni
    @KH-vp4ni 7 місяців тому +49

    Nursing mum, I'm ketovore but have to eat some fruit to keep up my milk supply. 🤷 I see mums in carnivore groups saying they are having supply issues but if I say to eat fruit it gets deleted bc it's not carnivore. Well I'm sorry but nursing your baby is very important. I wish people were more open minded carni.

    • @Gnomesmusher
      @Gnomesmusher 7 місяців тому +14

      Carnis are indeed very close minded. I also tried to tell them that foods like fruit aren't going to harm them in moderation. But because they're so stuck to the idea of meat only and that anything is a plant is bad they wouldn't move. It's almost like a cult.

    • @heidikindon5182
      @heidikindon5182 7 місяців тому +6

      Nursing expends so many calories and if you make high fat milk like I did you’ll crave everything. For me it was grape juice. 😅 Eat what you need mama.

    • @davidgmillsatty1900
      @davidgmillsatty1900 7 місяців тому +2

      The most recent anthropological evidence shows that humans were hyper carnivores and that we ate more meat than hyenas and canines. But being a hyper carnivore is not the same as an obligate carnivore. The carnivore community today believes that we are obligate carnivores and that is where the confusion comes in. If ancient humans were only hypercarnivores, how much of their diet was not meat and what were the plants we ate?

    • @KH-vp4ni
      @KH-vp4ni 7 місяців тому +1

      @@davidgmillsatty1900 well I like to forage myself. I can find lots of raspberries, huckleberries, and blueberries in the wild. Seasonally of course.

    • @KH-vp4ni
      @KH-vp4ni 7 місяців тому +2

      @HumansAreCarnivoresNotCows .
      Yes they do...
      And I thrive carnivore. I'm not anti carnivore. I wish I could be strict BBBE but I can't bc my supply tanks.

  • @bobsundquist2039
    @bobsundquist2039 7 місяців тому +46

    Thomas, great interview. Keep up the good work. I tried carnivore for a couple months and my workouts suffered. I was just tired. I added 3-5 pieces of fruit a day and some raw honey and i feel much better. My workouts are better and i am sleeping better.

    • @tlraffaele
      @tlraffaele 7 місяців тому +6

      It can take quite a while to become adapted to fat burning.

    • @Suzitao
      @Suzitao 7 місяців тому +1

      I have heard of others doing this. I think it can take two to three weeks to properly adapt to fat burning but not 2 months!! I think probably that not all folks suit full carnivore. I think for the majority keto is enough..keto and AIP foods only if your autoimmune issues are extreme. Fruit seems an odd choice though since it is generally high carb but I guess whatever works for you personally!

    • @bobsundquist2039
      @bobsundquist2039 7 місяців тому +5

      Before anyone else comments on me being "fat adapted" I have done keto for over a decade. I am fully aware of all the ins and outs of the ketogenic diet, carb cycling etc. pure carnivore just did not work for me.

    • @thearmy88ify
      @thearmy88ify 7 місяців тому

      Humans would have access to carbs seasonally so it makes sense. Plus humans are not designed for endurance or continued exercise so it makes total sense that they need a new solution.@@bobsundquist2039

    • @Stoitism
      @Stoitism 7 місяців тому +3

      How much protein were you getting? You need enough protein for gluconeogenesis to supply you with the Glycogen you need. Typically people working out hard on Carnivore need a bit more protein. I do A LOT of exercise and find that 2.3 to 2.5g of protein per kg of bodyweight is my sweet spot.

  • @AdHocAtom
    @AdHocAtom 7 місяців тому +6

    I've been on the Carnivore diet for 25 plus years, you have no idea the heat I took for it back then but I listened to my body and did what felt best for me. It resolved so many health issues that I didn't really care what people said and though I always feared I would die young as a result I'm now 50 and feel like I've held up better than 95% of people my age. It's been very interesting for me to watch this catch on the way it has as it was a huge learning curve for me with nobody to talk with about it.

  • @icanmanifest
    @icanmanifest 7 місяців тому +314

    I eat fruit every third or fourth day on the days I'm going to train. Definitely gives me extra jam in the gym. And then go back to carnivore for repair and recovery. It's working fabulously.

    • @mediaisthevirus
      @mediaisthevirus 7 місяців тому

      Apart of recovery is resupplying your muscles with glycogen. 80% of muscle tissue is water and carbohydrates. Eat more fruit

    • @ZyklonBeast12
      @ZyklonBeast12 7 місяців тому +45

      This is literally the key. Mini-carb cycles with 90% of diet coming from carnivore. It's simple

    • @shanebaird543
      @shanebaird543 7 місяців тому +37

      I do a hit of honey before I go surf! I believe once you are fat adapted you can go in and out of fat burning easier.

    • @mediaisthevirus
      @mediaisthevirus 7 місяців тому +7

      I like how yt deleted my comment about fruit 🤦‍♂️

    • @brandon8331
      @brandon8331 7 місяців тому +2

      @@mediaistheviruswhat did u say ?

  • @Jolisses2666
    @Jolisses2666 7 місяців тому +327

    Holy shit. Thomas, you're nailing it with these 30 mins interviews these days. You're having everyone on, love it!

    • @TheToplessChef-hf5eb
      @TheToplessChef-hf5eb 7 місяців тому +3

      I just want to add if anyone wants to study me in a carnivore study I’ll be up for it. You can load me up on ice creams and potato chips till I have close to metabolic syndrome. Then I’ll go on carnivore and you can record the changes. After all I’ve done it before 😂

    • @elenab5781
      @elenab5781 7 місяців тому +4

      He is only nailing with click baits

    • @mooncat.787
      @mooncat.787 7 місяців тому +2

      @@elenab5781 Yep, so much so Dr Baker made a video of explaining what really went on.

  • @stewartreid2981
    @stewartreid2981 7 місяців тому +64

    Thanks Thomas for another great interview. I started following Shawn's work in 2017 I went carnivore for a year and lost 30 kgs. While its not a huge amount of weight it had lifechanging effects clearing up a number of allergies asthma, eczema, hay fever and sinus. I'm now a nasal breather instead of a mouth breather giving me a good nights sleep most nights. Nowadays I tend to go between intermittent carnivore and keto.
    We live in an area of the Wide Bay, Queensland, Australia in which a great amount of avocados, macadamias and blueberries are grown and I incorporate these with our homegrown meat, chicken and eggs. Any allergy flare ups and I revert back to carnivore immediately then slowly bring whole foods back in. This combined with intermittent fasting long distance mountain biking and resistance training has me felling the best I've ever felt in my 55 years.. While I live with depression every day of my life this lifestyle and a good nights sleep really has had the most profound effect on me as long as I stick to it. Modernity really was slowly killing me. Thank you Shawn Baker.

    • @AdityaSawdekar
      @AdityaSawdekar 7 місяців тому

      Are you still depressed on a carnivore diet?

    • @Ikhthus777
      @Ikhthus777 7 місяців тому +7

      “When Jesus spoke again to the people, He said, ‘I am the Light of the World. Whoever follows me will never walk in darkness but have the light of life.’” (John 8:12)

    • @bradlee3273
      @bradlee3273 7 місяців тому +2

      Ahh I miss Hervey Bay. The meat was so much cheaper there! We pay crazy prices in Cairns. Beautiful Little Town too!

    • @stewartreid2981
      @stewartreid2981 7 місяців тому +1

      @@AdityaSawdekar yes I battle the black dog on a daily basis however focusing on exercise, nutrition and sleep especially nasal breathing has changed my life. Sugars and carbohydrates really do play havoc with my mental health and you cant beat a carnivore reset.

    • @stewartreid2981
      @stewartreid2981 7 місяців тому

      @@Ikhthus777 Amen 🙏

  • @LadyAxe13
    @LadyAxe13 7 місяців тому +102

    Personally, I ONLY add avocado, feta and camembert cheese to an otherwise full carnivore routine and it works like a charm for weight maintenance/ loss. It is the optimal way of eating for ME and I love it. No cravings at all.
    But if it is a hot day and I want watermelon or tangerines, I'll have some. It's not the end of the world 😉

    • @premium3429
      @premium3429 7 місяців тому

      ​@andygodwin5965Why, because they found something that works for them?

    • @p123-o5h
      @p123-o5h 6 місяців тому

      So you do get cravings then as you want watermelons and tangerines 😊

    • @Rue100
      @Rue100 4 місяці тому +1

      EXACTLY..WATERMELON IS GREAT FOR HYDRATION

    • @periculumesse1525
      @periculumesse1525 3 місяці тому

      i would expect you have gut issues, gas etc. Changed from mono-diet, adding more foods should mess up the bacteria.

  • @DJake78
    @DJake78 7 місяців тому +80

    He’s always been a big proponent of doing what works for you type of mindset. He’ll have his template of diet that he likes and works for him. It takes an evolved thinking individual to be able to “experiment” with different variables as one wishes viewpoint and not think only his way is the only way. Dr. Baker has been steadfast that certain autoimmune diseases and other ailments from his own experience and feedback from others that the carnivore diet works best in these situations. Very insightful!!!

    • @chargermopar
      @chargermopar 7 місяців тому +3

      This is so true!

    • @whiterook3114
      @whiterook3114 7 місяців тому +3

      How come he mocks vegans and vegetarians all the time?

    • @darrenezzell1010
      @darrenezzell1010 7 місяців тому +9

      ​@@whiterook3114does he really? Or does he sit back and allow them to expose themselves?

    • @DJake78
      @DJake78 7 місяців тому +7

      @@whiterook3114 He mocks certain vegans not all because just like any group there are some zealot wing nuts who either spout crazy stuff or mention his name. You’re welcome. You had nothing better to do than ask that?
      With your defensive tone I’ll go out on a limb and say you’re vegan. Bigger things in life to get worked up about.

    • @DethrowDestruction
      @DethrowDestruction 7 місяців тому

      so.. basically people will experiment until it evolves into .. wait for it.. A NORMAL HEALTHY BALANCED DIET!?

  • @isagoldfield7393
    @isagoldfield7393 7 місяців тому +22

    ♥️♥️♥️Dr. Baker! Thank You for this wonderful opportunity to help us with this important issue👍

  • @audreygregis8721
    @audreygregis8721 7 місяців тому +9

    Great conversation! Two icons in the wellness world. I'm turning 70, have been Carnivore for 5yrs come July....after being gluten-free for over 20yrs, then grain-free for few yrs. Carnivore has been life changing. My allergies of 48yrs disappeared 3yrs into CV. But, I will always say that if humans would just cut out all processed foods, eat animal protein/fats, fruits and veggies, big medical would go out of business. We need to get on the page of doing what's right for each individual. If Vegans want to eat Vegan, if Carnivores want to eat Carnivore, so be it. Stop bashing each other about how we choose to eat that we feel is right for us, at that moment. In the summer, I eat some fruit, only what is in season. And I pick low oxalate fruits, because all those darn high oxalate superfoods did a number on me. I'll be dumping oxalates till I move onto greener pastures.😅

  • @thebalrog2277
    @thebalrog2277 7 місяців тому +75

    I think its hard to go wrong with meat eggs berries and other fruit like avocado and dairy and working out a few times a week. My IBS only kicks my ass when I eat junk/fast food and man is it not worth the pain. Even coffee is fine so long as I make it at home.

    • @jeniferjohnson374
      @jeniferjohnson374 7 місяців тому +4

      Is it really that specific? Your case should prove to ppl who think Starbucks is fine, or the occasional McDonald's is fine, but really it is not!

    • @justsomedude8118
      @justsomedude8118 7 місяців тому +13

      @@jeniferjohnson374 Starbucks might as well be slinging crack. Caffeine + a huge sugar load is about as addictive as it gets.

    • @anuragmandal4442
      @anuragmandal4442 7 місяців тому +2

      Eggs and dairy is THE worst food you can consume...Red Meat Potato Salads us the best of all..

    • @jeniferjohnson374
      @jeniferjohnson374 7 місяців тому +20

      @@anuragmandal4442 though eggs, next to breast milk have been shown to be the most bioavailable complete food.

    • @rachelmcgill8143
      @rachelmcgill8143 7 місяців тому +20

      ​@@anuragmandal4442Demonizing specific whole foods, like eggs and dairy, is not accurate, nor is it productive because everyone is different. You mention potatoes being healthy, but for some, potatoes are problematic. I personally eat Japanese sweet potatoes every day, and they are fine. It is important to keep in mind that there is no one way fits all when it comes to nutrition. The only thing that can be said with certainty is that ultra-processed foods and added/refined sugar/sugary foods are problematic for every human. ❤

  • @NanoverseProductions
    @NanoverseProductions 7 місяців тому +57

    I’m eating meat and 1 apple a day. I feel amazing. As long as it’s a small amt of fruit it is great. 3 weeks in I feel amazing

    • @semasariyildiz4346
      @semasariyildiz4346 7 місяців тому +2

      When do you eat the apple? As a seperate meal or before your meal ?

    • @suew4609
      @suew4609 7 місяців тому

      I have done this, too, but to prevent oxalate dumping. It’s worked. I hope I can get to straight Carnivore at some point for healing.

    • @Steve_Ragnarson
      @Steve_Ragnarson 7 місяців тому +2

      Good for you! It's mainly meat for me, with a bit of fruit. Every day. Love it.

  • @bendy6626
    @bendy6626 7 місяців тому +48

    As a clinician, the healthiest people i ever saw were the Amish. Exvellent natural muscle developmwnt, natural tan, great cv function. They eat a varied diet including carbs, but meat eggs, cheese, etc is part of every meal. They also have a lifestyle that includes DAILY lifting, walking, pulling, climbing, and cardio. Every body part and muscle is worked everyday.
    We'd all be better off leading an Amish lifestyle!

    • @dawurzelsepp1473
      @dawurzelsepp1473 7 місяців тому +3

      Of course this is the best.
      I would say lot of native tribes are even more fit.
      The only problem is, most people don't wanna live like that.

    • @julienfroidevaux1143
      @julienfroidevaux1143 7 місяців тому +3

      ​@@dawurzelsepp1473That's correct I " don't want to live like that " and die in my 60's .
      I'd rather live like the SDA and their plant heavy diet , most centernerians in that demographic.😊

    • @suew4609
      @suew4609 7 місяців тому +2

      They may be healthy, but they have some ridiculous ideas for what they do. They don’t use buttons because they were worn by the Prussians who fought them a couple of centuries ago, and because they are too flashy, not plain enough.

    • @julienfroidevaux1143
      @julienfroidevaux1143 7 місяців тому

      You've never met a SDA ?

    • @suew4609
      @suew4609 7 місяців тому +3

      @@julienfroidevaux1143 Yes, I have, one of my doctor’s is SDA, they’re crazy, too! He was shocked when I told him I was going to go on Carnivore and hopefully heal.😂

  • @jaso9217
    @jaso9217 7 місяців тому +20

    Dr Baker is so sensible and open minded when it comes to individual dietary choices, best in the Carnivore space IMO, nutrition science is so problematic. I am 64 and a couple of months into Carnivore and have been experimenting, recently added a glass of Goats milk in the morning and feel fine, N = 1.

    • @DebbieTDP
      @DebbieTDP 7 місяців тому +1

      Goat milk is Carnivore 😊

    • @EzakLee-f6w
      @EzakLee-f6w 6 місяців тому

      Good for you. You don't need anyone's permission to drink goat milk. Drink away.

  • @hjrosas071
    @hjrosas071 7 місяців тому +35

    I tried adding fruits to my diet after 6 months of being carnivore with mixed results. Initially I tried apples and bananas, and they wrecked my gut. I replaced them with in season citrus fruits and berries, and I've never felt better in my life. I think people who are willing to experiment fruits might benefit from trying different kinds to see which actually work for them.

    • @TheToplessChef-hf5eb
      @TheToplessChef-hf5eb 7 місяців тому +13

      Same. Berries are the best fruits. Some citrus is fine too. Funny how Paul Saladino gets a lot of hate from strict carnivores for eating oranges. It’s not a religion folks 😂, eat what’s optimal for you.

    • @brawndothethirstmutilator9848
      @brawndothethirstmutilator9848 7 місяців тому +4

      @TheToplessChef-hf5eb, It *is* like a religion for some people. That’s the problem.

    • @LightInTheNight1337
      @LightInTheNight1337 7 місяців тому +3

      Try cooking apples to destroy pectin. In general, cooked fruit is much easier to digest, though I don't like bananas.

    • @hjrosas071
      @hjrosas071 7 місяців тому +1

      @Kwildcat13 I used to not enjoy them, but I was having electrolyte issues that went away when I added them.

    • @KevinSamuelsKid
      @KevinSamuelsKid 7 місяців тому

      Nah fruit is problematic. Dr Sean Omara is absolutely correct. Don’t eat that stuff unless it’s fermented. And only eat it as a garnish for beneficial microbes. That’s it

  • @Whocares1068
    @Whocares1068 7 місяців тому +24

    Thomas you’re such a pro. The quality of interviews and wealth of information. I salute brother. Thank you for your contribution in such a competing space!💪🏾

  • @SC-fx4rt
    @SC-fx4rt 7 місяців тому +2

    Tom your a great interviewer not interrupting allow guest to talk and smooth transitions great work

  • @JayyDouglas
    @JayyDouglas 7 місяців тому +102

    I did carnivore for 90 days. Lots of high fat beef steaks, ground beef etc. I was adding plenty of salt. It was okay for a little while, but i started nonstop cramping, my sleep was horrendous, i had major heart palpitations and ended up in the ER with dangerously low potassium levels. Some people can do pure carnivore and be okay, and do very well. Other people CANNOT. Adding a moderate amount of fruit changed EVERYTHING and I feel better than i ever have in life. Autoimmune skin conditions reversed, best energy and sleep of my life etc. Many of you will "just take electrolyte supplements" but then you wander into the exact same territory as the vegan dogma. "Just take b12 injections". NO the whole point of the food you eat is to get everything you need NATURALLY. Fruit is the answer for those who body cannot handle the extreme restriction. (I still believe in the benefits of pure carnivore depending on your situation, this just worked wonders for me)

    • @davidgmillsatty1900
      @davidgmillsatty1900 7 місяців тому +11

      What kind of lifestyle do you have with respect to sports or training? Most carnivores are ambush predators. Cats sleep 16 hours a day. Dogs sleep 12. If you’re going to try to be as strong as an ox or run like a mustang, then you probably are going to need carbs. But the average person doesn’t do that. The average person hates exercise for the sake of exercise. I have been low carb (50 g per day) since 1995 and near zero carb since 2020 (10 or less). I have never had issues. I am not an exercise freak although I was a really good athlete in my youth. I never could do exercise for the sake of exercise. I exercise minimally. Now I sprint per Dr Sean O’mara. I am 73 and very healthy for my age. My life expectancy was 66.5 when I was born. I have outlived many of my peers. And I have had good health. Doctors actually listen to me now.
      I would argue that nuts are better than fruit. When I eat carbs, I eat pecans which are high in fat, medium in protein and low in carbs. But there are nuts that do have quite a bit of carbs. Nuts, when stored properly can be eaten for long periods, unlike fruit and it is more likely our ancestors consumed more of them for that reason.

    • @LauraB.335
      @LauraB.335 7 місяців тому +14

      It sounds as if you were low in electrolytes, not carbs. I’m not saying don’t eat fruit, but if you were low in potassium, then potassium is what was needed. There are carnivores who need electrolytes. Rebekah Heishman is an example. She has now started to add things back in, but due to health conditions she was pure carnivore for at least a year to heal her system. She always needed to take electrolytes, though.

    • @TwiztedFingers
      @TwiztedFingers 7 місяців тому +9

      Sounds like you already had a serious issue with your potassium levels before you started. Steak has plenty of potassium. Many people are trying carnivore because they are sick. My sister has an autoimmune disease that would flare up instantly if she ate fruit. Most people today have some type of metabolic dysfunction. Metabolic dysfunction can mess up all kinds of stuff until your body heals and starts working correctly. It can take up to a year to truly convert your system to running efficiently on the carnivore diet. There is a unique process each person is going to go through with their conversion. As your body heals and dumps the garbage that has been stored in your fat stores, you might need extra electrolytes. If you exercise a lot you might need more electrolytes. Taking electrolytes helps many in the conversion process. There is nothing dogmatic about taking electrolytes. I found them helpful during the first 6 months and didn't need them after that. Do what works for you, but "NATURALLY" is not an option for many people.

    • @loribethstrickland4932
      @loribethstrickland4932 7 місяців тому +2

      I have to have the collagen, or I feel exactly how you've described. The cramps suck. 😫

    • @GrowingPains917
      @GrowingPains917 7 місяців тому +2

      When you were carnivore, did you try adding Kiefer/dairy to your diet before going to bed? It seems like the carbs from that help me sleep better. Butter helps a bit also.

  • @jeniferjohnson374
    @jeniferjohnson374 7 місяців тому +37

    Wow. Shawn Baker has been my go-to doc for a couple of years now. What a nice surprise collab!

    • @BlacFireSan
      @BlacFireSan 7 місяців тому

      He has a YT channel

    • @jeniferjohnson374
      @jeniferjohnson374 7 місяців тому

      @@BlacFireSan yes he's the real deal. Watching him has taught me much.

  • @darrellshoub7527
    @darrellshoub7527 7 місяців тому +43

    SEAN is a legend !!!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks , Thomas for this excellent short video

    • @mooncat.787
      @mooncat.787 7 місяців тому +1

      Clickbait central.

  • @robinmccarty9281
    @robinmccarty9281 7 місяців тому +18

    I absolutely love how both of these guys lack the dogmatic views that I so often see on the carnivore facebook pages........and one thing that's so ironic about it is that Shawn Baker is considered by many to be the start of the carnivore diet, or at least the recent popularity of it. I think it would do us all some good to at least listen to new ideas that arise concerning diet and at least give them some legitimate consideration. .

  • @tractioncontroloff9796
    @tractioncontroloff9796 7 місяців тому +87

    Red meat, occasional bacon, eggs, beef bone broth, blueberries, raspberries, apples, oranges, occasional cheese, sparkling water, coffee, salmon, macadamia nuts, oysters, and 2% to full fat yogurt. I’ve been eating this way for over a year and feel great. No Alcohol. Supplements: omega 3, vitamin d, creatine, b complex, multivitamin, vital proteins collagen. Nothing more nothing less

    • @Goddessofelegance
      @Goddessofelegance 7 місяців тому +3

      Same!!! and I drink Kefir and eat liver from time to time

    • @underated17
      @underated17 7 місяців тому

      If you eat grass fed meat you probably get omega 3

    • @Ryshaad
      @Ryshaad 7 місяців тому +15

      If you're eating like that consistently, most of your supplements are completely redundant and unnecessary at best and could be preventing you from feeling better at worst. Save the money /shrug

    • @JTV-mj9zx
      @JTV-mj9zx 7 місяців тому +2

      I would eat bacon everyday if I could afford the shit.

    • @nathanshackelford7812
      @nathanshackelford7812 7 місяців тому +8

      Those supplements are harming you, not helping.

  • @karlkrassnitzer6819
    @karlkrassnitzer6819 7 місяців тому +78

    Shawn Baker is not an ideologist I like that.

    • @sekaniyahimba354
      @sekaniyahimba354 7 місяців тому +1

      maybe "dogmatist" instead of "ideologist"
      ....i get your point though

    • @FaCiSmFTW
      @FaCiSmFTW 7 місяців тому

      pretty sure they meant idealogue@@sekaniyahimba354

  • @GiliusThunderhead
    @GiliusThunderhead 7 місяців тому +120

    meat and fruit diet is the absolute best human diet in my humble opinion. Never looked/felt better

    • @YourLifeRedefined
      @YourLifeRedefined 7 місяців тому +15

      You should try it without the fruit

    • @helloman5576
      @helloman5576 7 місяців тому +31

      Felt horrible without the fruit​@@YourLifeRedefined

    • @ZyklonBeast12
      @ZyklonBeast12 7 місяців тому +14

      If you're still metabolically F'd up, fruit isn't going to be a good addition

    • @ellamay3816
      @ellamay3816 7 місяців тому +12

      @@ZyklonBeast12probably. Strict carnivore is great for healing but fruit should be based on seasons. Fasting is best as well because our ancestors didn't always have access to fruit and hunting takes a lot of energy.

    • @mikafoxx2717
      @mikafoxx2717 7 місяців тому +3

      Maybe, maybe not. From what I've understood it's mainly down to lower caloric intake driving protective factors. Eating whole foods that are satiating makes that much easier.
      Fat and protein is satiating, but so is sheer volume. There's a point to look at saturated fat as a factor as well. There's sort of an S curve so below say 8% of caloric intake has no increased risk and 12% maxes out the added risk. Going beyond that by eating ground beef every mean, while being in a healthy caloric range and lean is probably still far healthier than one that has below 7% but is fat off of processed food, eating 3500 calories a day and sedentary.

  • @ninawildr4207
    @ninawildr4207 7 місяців тому +311

    I like how everyone in comments are going hysterical about him trying fruit and havent even watched video

    • @rancepants4517
      @rancepants4517 7 місяців тому +25

      I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed.

    • @DregGayton777
      @DregGayton777 7 місяців тому +46

      This. Everyone is commenting without watching. Especially the vegans LMAOOOO

    • @Kaztrofy
      @Kaztrofy 7 місяців тому +30

      Well he's also clear on that we're omnivores and that everyone should do what works best for them. But strict carnivore is a really good starting point while trying to figure out what foods specifically you might have a problem with. And then add in whatever works, whatever variety you can handle is probably a good thing, if not for health alone but also to enjoy a wider range experiences.

    • @Kaztrofy
      @Kaztrofy 7 місяців тому +11

      I don't think the vegans have arrived yet,there's 0 downvotes on the video.@@DregGayton777

    • @jeniferjohnson374
      @jeniferjohnson374 7 місяців тому +7

      He emphasized it's more for performance not necessarily a health thing

  • @MrQuadcity
    @MrQuadcity 7 місяців тому +50

    The key takeaways from Dr. Shawn Baker's discussion on adding fruit to his carnivore diet and his broader dietary philosophy include:
    1. **Experimentation with Diet:** Dr. Baker's inclusion of fruit in his diet was an experiment to explore its impact on cholesterol levels, demonstrating his willingness to test and adapt dietary practices based on health outcomes rather than adhering strictly to dogma.
    2. **Individualized Nutrition:** A central theme of the discussion is the importance of personalizing one's diet. Dr. Baker advocates for experimenting with different foods and dietary patterns to discover what best supports an individual's health and performance goals.
    3. **Lean Mass Hyper-Responder Concept:** Dr. Baker explains this concept, which suggests that individuals on low-carb diets may exhibit specific cholesterol and triglyceride profiles. This idea contributes to a nuanced understanding of cholesterol's role in health, especially among those who are metabolically healthy.
    4. **Carbohydrates and Athletic Performance:** While acknowledging the benefits of carbohydrates for energy and performance, Dr. Baker notes the potential for adaptation to low-carb diets among athletes. This adaptation may change their carbohydrate needs and utilization.
    5. **Quality of Meat and Diet Flexibility:** Dr. Baker discusses meat quality, including grass-fed versus grain-fed, highlighting that significant health improvements can be observed with all types of meat. He promotes a practical approach to meat consumption that considers personal health, environmental impact, and accessibility.
    6. **Health and Diet Philosophy:** Dr. Baker's approach is non-dogmatic, emphasizing health improvement and the efficacy of diets as primary concerns. He is open to dietary flexibility and encourages others to be experimental and find what works best for them, whether within a carnivore framework or through incorporating a wider range of foods.
    7. **Nutritional Nuances:** The discussion underscores the complexity of nutrition science, particularly regarding cholesterol, dietary fats, and the interplay between diet, health, and athletic performance. Dr. Baker calls for a deeper understanding of these nuances to better tailor diets to individual needs and health outcomes.

    • @carnivorewisdom
      @carnivorewisdom 7 місяців тому +1

      Great! #thanks4sharing #carnivorewisdom #seektruth

    • @MrQuadcity
      @MrQuadcity 7 місяців тому

      @@carnivorewisdom

    • @shanebaird543
      @shanebaird543 7 місяців тому

      Thank you! We need more open minded nuanced thinkers like you in the world!

    • @jesseshaver2262
      @jesseshaver2262 7 місяців тому

      Meat, honey, and fruit isn’t “non-dogmatic” lmao

    • @mooncat.787
      @mooncat.787 7 місяців тому

      Or just listen to the interview.

  • @emilianozapata175
    @emilianozapata175 7 місяців тому +57

    Its simple. As a 3 year carnivore, i didn't join a cult. It has always been about optimal health for me. I know this is shared by many others out there? Is there a community? Yes. However, it's always been about horses for courses in my mind. This has always been an elimination diet, used in medicine for generations, before coming to the mainstream attention. Sometimes people just stick to this because it works and get everything we need, and sometimes people do it for a few months or longer before adding foods back in to check tolerance levels. I give glory to God for pointing me this direction. It has benefitted me greatly and I am blessed that there have been learned people out there with content such as Dr Baker's, Dr Berry's, and Dr Chaffee's, for information and guidance without the dogmatic approach.

    • @tristanlee8912
      @tristanlee8912 7 місяців тому +3

      💯

    • @billthompson8182
      @billthompson8182 7 місяців тому +5

      Yes, correct. It's just the exclusion diet. Or elimination, as you said. It really isn't that hard. I don't know why people get so worked up.

    • @Derek_1111
      @Derek_1111 7 місяців тому +2

      An issue with eliminating something from your diet and then adding it back in later to see how you react to it it is that when you add it back your gut most likely no longer has the bacteria to process it like it had before. So it's tough to tell if that particular food is an issue for you or your gut not having the proper bacteria in it to process it is the issue. Same way a vegan can become super sick when adding meat back into their diet. They can't process it like they could back when they ate meat so in the short term they'd think "well obviously meat is bad for me because it's making me sick" when in reality that's not the truth.

    • @billthompson8182
      @billthompson8182 7 місяців тому +1

      @Derek_1111 no worries. A good dietitian has it under control. You don't just gobble a bunch of the reintroduced food. You take a nibble and wait three or four days and on and on. It is a slow process.

    • @nathanshackelford7812
      @nathanshackelford7812 7 місяців тому

      @@Derek_1111 This is just speculation. The microbiome, and it's billions of strains of bacteria, is continually studied but not understood even by the experts that study it for a living.

  • @rancepants4517
    @rancepants4517 7 місяців тому +180

    The comment section is full of people outing themselves as the type who only read headlines and ignore the actual video/article/study content.

    • @Kainzo
      @Kainzo 7 місяців тому

      Stop supporting clickbait stupidity

    • @razzdiamond6447
      @razzdiamond6447 7 місяців тому +7

      This, exactly 😂

    • @711-v3k
      @711-v3k 7 місяців тому +2

      lose the fruit

    • @JB-ip7vr
      @JB-ip7vr 7 місяців тому +13

      They are called a "Didn't Watch Hyper Responder"

    • @nathanshackelford7812
      @nathanshackelford7812 7 місяців тому +34

      It's a clickbait title with a clickbait thumbnail so those responses are warranted. It's not just the fact that Baker only tried to add carbs and isn't anymore. It's also the fact that the thumbnail says 100gs of sugar, when Baker said he added 100gs of fruit. Thats a huge difference.

  • @googlespies
    @googlespies 7 місяців тому +85

    I'm mostly carnivore but I've always gravitated towards using berries in my greek yogurt.
    Eating [full fat] greek yogurt with berries later in the evening helps me sleep too.

    • @natlovell122
      @natlovell122 7 місяців тому +9

      Full fat Greek yogurt with fruit is absolute 🔥

    • @Coco-im5ln
      @Coco-im5ln 7 місяців тому +1

      I agree with the full fat... also more filling and healthier

    • @googlespies
      @googlespies 7 місяців тому

      @@Otis-and-Chloe always full fat

    • @topshelfcbd8617
      @topshelfcbd8617 7 місяців тому +6

      Yeah me too I agree. Full fat greek yoghurt with berries really helps me at night too. I always crave food at night and it's always something sweet I'm craving . Yogurt n berries really helps

    • @rhodesbirdy2793
      @rhodesbirdy2793 7 місяців тому +2

      Literally says FULL FAT in the comment

  • @xnoreq
    @xnoreq 7 місяців тому +114

    Shawn Baker is right about one thing: no one is coming to save you.

    • @DCGreenZone
      @DCGreenZone 7 місяців тому

      The 3 letter agencies are out to get you. 😊

    • @Magneticlaw
      @Magneticlaw 7 місяців тому +7

      People never should have put so must trust in their physicians

    • @senorpepper3405
      @senorpepper3405 7 місяців тому +9

      My moma's coming to save me

    • @emilianozapata175
      @emilianozapata175 7 місяців тому +29

      Jesus Christ already did.

    • @Ag_Drums
      @Ag_Drums 7 місяців тому +14

      Jesus

  • @cyndimanka
    @cyndimanka 7 місяців тому +70

    For me fruit causes cravings. I want carbs, something sweet and I don’t even like sweets. I’m a salty crispy person. I am from Dr. Baker’s state and we live in the Yakima Valley where there’s just a ton of fruit. In fact we ship it to where Dr. Baker is from.. I do eat some strawberries from my own garden and blackberries. But I just nibble when I pick them, I don’t eat handfuls. And then, when watermelon comes in season of boy. It makes me want more and more. I found myself gaining weight last year when I was eating the fruit all summer. They always say moderation. Yeah, you can’t moderate carbohydrates because they actually cause cravings.

    • @robstrck8
      @robstrck8 7 місяців тому +8

      I too could eat watermelon all summer. I can’t moderate very well 😂

    • @DethrowDestruction
      @DethrowDestruction 7 місяців тому +3

      Yeah it was totally the fruit that made you gain weight...

    • @cyndimanka
      @cyndimanka 7 місяців тому +4

      @@robstrck8 ya. I can not moderate it. Good way of putting it

    • @shaunakpandharipande8942
      @shaunakpandharipande8942 7 місяців тому

      @@cyndimanka I think he's being sarcastic

    • @jkeller2129
      @jkeller2129 7 місяців тому +3

      Slippery slope... once I start the addiction kicks in.

  • @denmar355
    @denmar355 7 місяців тому +3

    Love to see Dr. Ford Brewer in this interview format. His knowledge of cholesterol and inflammation is really informative.

  • @tinacox9526
    @tinacox9526 7 місяців тому +23

    Awesome interview video I enjoy watching you both we been did keto for 2 years and now doing carnivore for 2 months now

  • @user-zs1fr7im6l
    @user-zs1fr7im6l 7 місяців тому +3

    Dr. Shawn Baker - The King !

  • @T-Vegas
    @T-Vegas 7 місяців тому +6

    Kind of a clickbait title. Dr Baker doesn't continually eat fruit. He did it for one week as an experiment. That's it.

    • @Alleycat01
      @Alleycat01 6 місяців тому

      That’s most annoying on these online pods🙈🙄

  • @dgiedt
    @dgiedt 7 місяців тому +19

    the more interviews i see the more I realize there is no one diet that is best for everyone and noone is even close tofiguring out the ideal diet

    • @wmn8344
      @wmn8344 7 місяців тому

      ​@user-mi5wd7bg9ewhat is yours if you do not mind sharing ? Tysm

  • @FTONYProductions
    @FTONYProductions 7 місяців тому +2

    Shawn, diving into fruits after ruling the carnivore kingdom? Bold move. It’s like stepping into unknown territory to find what truly works. Reminds me of a principle from the Gospel - it’s not just about following what we’ve always known, but being open to the paths God lays before us, even when they’re unexpected.
    Just like adding fruit to your diet, sometimes it’s the shifts in our routine that bring us closer to understanding greater truths. Paul had his road to Damascus moment; it completely changed his direction but not his ultimate goal. It’s about fine-tuning our lives and aligning more with the bigger picture God has for us.
    Keep exploring, Shawn. In the end, it’s not just about physical health but aligning every part of our lives with the truths that stand the test of time.

  • @debbiefroide4463
    @debbiefroide4463 7 місяців тому +21

    There is someone who can save you, Jesus already came to save you.

    • @demarius71
      @demarius71 Місяць тому

      Something that still haven't proved to be true...

    • @andycruz9768
      @andycruz9768 Місяць тому

      We”ll find out in OT

  • @jameshigginbothamiii8703
    @jameshigginbothamiii8703 7 місяців тому +11

    Wow! Great interview and mucho info...thanks to both of you.

  • @LaaraCopley-Smith
    @LaaraCopley-Smith 7 місяців тому +9

    Great short interview, and that Dr. Shawn Baker experimented. I am a lean mass hyper-responder, however I think the issue is when you are super lean and have no reserves, and so if you get depleted you can get into real trouble. Yet I would also love to hear more on electrolytes and low potassium, potassium is underrated required for the heart. Many Carnivores talk on real salt yet this is higher in sodium - could potassium be a puzzle piece !!!

    • @Ryshaad
      @Ryshaad 7 місяців тому +5

      Meat has quite a bit of potassium in it naturally. Particularly the red meats, fish, and organs

    • @SurrogateActivities
      @SurrogateActivities 6 місяців тому

      @@Ryshaad yet carnivores often become depleted, curious

  • @ASMRBarbie
    @ASMRBarbie 7 місяців тому +7

    What a well spoken man😊loveeee his personality! Information is sooooo digestible.

  • @jenismith5429
    @jenismith5429 7 місяців тому +29

    If i wouldnt have added foods back in, i would never know what wasnt working. Carnivore is always my reset when I have strayed too far or want longer fasts to go well

    • @Dan0rioN
      @Dan0rioN 7 місяців тому +1

      Same mentality here. Unfortunately whatever bothers me severly damages me fast & long =/

    • @jenismith5429
      @jenismith5429 7 місяців тому +1

      @@Dan0rioN Start with the foods you love. At least the pain will be worth it. I got took down by accidental margarine for a week and was so mad. Lol

    • @joshmaag2457
      @joshmaag2457 7 місяців тому +6

      Yeah same. As a diabetic sometimes I’ll start to stray off the course. It’s amazing how you add in a little sugar or white flour and your body treats it like a drug. You just crave it and your meat doesn’t taste as good. Then go a week back on the meat and you don’t crave the bullshit and your meat goes back to tasting better. The body is a weird thing

    • @Dan0rioN
      @Dan0rioN 7 місяців тому

      @@jenismith5429 It's not really about feeling addicted it's been more hydration & hunger/meat aversion so I've tried playing around with fruit/milk & adding potatoes for hunger/meat aversion.. I've also tried snacking on nuts for some periods.. Now I'm meat & raw veggies only.. Splash of milk in coffee

    • @jenismith5429
      @jenismith5429 7 місяців тому +2

      @@Dan0rioN mine isnt addiction either. I was heavily inflamed from many food allergies and was consuming problematic foods like tomatoes and strawberries daily. It took over a year introducing one at a time , but i now have my list of allergies.

  • @Cervin_Suisse
    @Cervin_Suisse 7 місяців тому

    I tip my hat to Mr. Baker. It is not often to hear measured people about their own diet. Several times I noted that he stated that want he does, in terms of exercise and nutrition, is not necessarily the best way to go. But rather a choice. Very rational and educated speech backed up by a lot of experience.

  • @lennydaiglejr3094
    @lennydaiglejr3094 7 місяців тому +21

    I was keto/carnivore for three years and saw my free testosterone plummet . I added fruit and honey and saw it rise significantly.
    Eventually I was having digestive issues and eliminated the fruit and now do 3 tablespoons of honey a day, two prior to my morning workout and one after I warm up an my first heavy set. I feel fantastic and my numbers are great.

    • @shanebaird543
      @shanebaird543 7 місяців тому +2

      Thanks for sharing your secret sauce!

    • @saamsii1339
      @saamsii1339 7 місяців тому +2

      I’ll eat honey not fruits

    • @maplin007
      @maplin007 7 місяців тому +1

      Just interested, you obviously checked for free testosterone but did you feel worse or was it some other effect of the diet that may not have been negative? I say this because all our measurements of what we are told levels of all things should be (like cholesterol) were all set on a standard diet.

    • @lennydaiglejr3094
      @lennydaiglejr3094 7 місяців тому +3

      The longer I was on strict Keto/Carnivore the flatter I began to feel and my strength was lagging. Add to that my Libido was diminished. It was also interesting that my fasting glucose was rising, particularly after a hard workout. Yes I’m aware of Gluconeogenesis.
      Eventually I came across some information detailing the negative effects of a keto diet/ carnivore diet for some people. Out of curiosity I had my testosterone tested, and while my total was good, 750, for a 60 year old, my free was at the bottom of the normal range and my SHBG was high.
      After I added the honey and fruit, I retested and my free was higher, SHBG lower and my fasting glucose down, particularly following a workout.
      At this point I do three tablespoons of raw honey in the morning and wit very few exceptions that are my carbs for the day. It works for me, might not for others

    • @alexandruturza7131
      @alexandruturza7131 7 місяців тому +1

      For me the carnivore diet brings the testosterone level to 27 nmol/L but SHBG level is crazy high wt about 65 nmol/L (which is about double than the average level) and free testosterone of 15 pg/ml.
      Once I introduce some carbs here and there (fruits, vegetables, some grains, potatoes) the SHBG goes to 30-35 nmol/L, total testosterone stays at 20-24 nmol/ L but my free testosterone goes to 20 pg/ ml.
      For me the low carb diet is the best. I have some days when I am fully carnivore and some other days when I eat 100-150 g carbs, while rarely I eat pizza or something else.

  • @simonphuket7782
    @simonphuket7782 7 місяців тому +2

    Dr. Natasha Campbell McBride, creator of the GAPS diet and who is now amongst other things a regenerative farmer, said that many of her patients without access to the best quality meats recovered from their illnesses on these meats. She attributes that to the animal’s powerful detoxification systems.
    BTW, on the GAPS diet for about 8 years, late 50s CAC of 0 in all arteries , total cholesterol above 200.

  • @holistic_Ology
    @holistic_Ology 7 місяців тому +5

    My 9 month old and I are carnivores (she is also breastfeeding). My three sons are ketovore, my husband is on his own diet with grains! I feel that we are all at our best at this point. It all evolved by our preferences. But I tell ya, my kitchen has been evolving quite a bit to accommodate our evolving family nutrition needs! I love it.

  • @THELIFEOFPRICE
    @THELIFEOFPRICE 7 місяців тому

    Gotta love Dr. Shawn. dudes a beast especially at 60! looks awesome and strong af!

  • @angelinevanaman2629
    @angelinevanaman2629 7 місяців тому +5

    If you haven’t had fruit in your diet for years. Why would you eat it every day??? Try 1x a wk then 2xs a wk? That’s just me. I would personally not add something daily that I haven’t eaten in years…

  • @3Yesica
    @3Yesica 7 місяців тому

    Thank you both for your honesty! This makes sense! I am a full blown diabetic and should never touch fruit again because my numbers shoot up to the sky but I am also not against all forms of carbs for every person. I have a husband that does great on carbs. He needs to watch other things, he is not overweight nor has he ever been at 58 now. He doenst overeat also ever maybe thats the answer. Thank you both!

  • @CvoreAthlete
    @CvoreAthlete 7 місяців тому +3

    Zero carbs for 9 months. Cycled 5 centuries in 5 days, got stronger as the days went by with no problem with high intensity efforts.

  • @CB-ys3wy
    @CB-ys3wy 7 місяців тому

    Great job, Thomas! You're getting more people on your channel that are of interest to me.

  • @melissahouse1296
    @melissahouse1296 7 місяців тому +4

    This was brilliant; objective & balanced. Great discussion 🧐😎

  • @christopherfilla4186
    @christopherfilla4186 7 місяців тому +2

    Definitely appreciate his honesty, and definitely appreciate that he can use carbohydrates strategically...

  • @antony_jose.7
    @antony_jose.7 7 місяців тому +34

    I was doing carnivore for months and I wasn’t feeling as great as claimed by everyone. But then I added fruits and started feeling much better though there was alot of bloating . Now I have fruits in the form of juice without the fiber. And I haven’t felt this awesome in my life before. I hope fructose without fiber won’t be a problem as claimed by many . So far I feel great. :’)

    • @drewr9580
      @drewr9580 7 місяців тому +11

      Same boat as you. Strict carnivore for years but fruit juice, coconut water, raw milk and honey are great for long term hydration for athletes

    • @DregGayton777
      @DregGayton777 7 місяців тому +11

      Goes to show how different everyone is. I feel absolutely terrible with carbs but strict carnivore I feel great.

    • @HussRisingYT
      @HussRisingYT 7 місяців тому +4

      Fresh fruit juice without fiber shouldn’t be a major issue, I would definitely check glucose response with and without fiber

    • @phines93
      @phines93 7 місяців тому +6

      I'm not too sure but it kind of sounds like electrolytes are balancing out ...with keto carnivore and fasting depending on your kidney health balancing electrolytes can be insanely hard

    •  7 місяців тому +4

      Next step is to slowly add fibrous vegetables to your food :-) and slowly learn to eat a varied whole food diet! Which is optimal for almost everyone :-D

  • @brianc3290
    @brianc3290 7 місяців тому

    Wow, this was a fantastic talk! I've followed both of you for years glad to see this! Great information.

  • @mbaxter22
    @mbaxter22 7 місяців тому +13

    I did this for awhile (carnivore+ fruit only).
    My vody responded really well to this, vut the problem was psychological. Eating fruit always ended up triggering me to fall off the wagon completely. It would start with fruit and before long, I'm eating cookies and ice cream, and feeling like sh*t all over again.

    • @stern4141
      @stern4141 7 місяців тому

      Same

    • @staytrue5307
      @staytrue5307 7 місяців тому

      That's just being mentally weak. Sorry but that is just a fact. Reply with whatever over sensitive bs you want. I won't be reading it. Take care.

    • @mbaxter22
      @mbaxter22 7 місяців тому

      @@staytrue5307 Your reply was intended to be insulting, but was more confusing than anything. I don't understand, is it mentally weak not being able to handle the fruit along with the meat, without binging on crap? Or is it mental weakness to even stray from a proper carnivore diet in the first place?
      Are you saying we should be mentally stronger and just eat meat + fruit without any other cheating? Or, are you saying we should be mentally stronger and just not stray from carnivore at all?
      Some will claim the real weakness is being unable to handle anything but strict carnivore, that true mental mastery would allow for carnivore + fruit (or other "good" carbs). This school of thought would say you should be, immune to getting triggered by carbs, that you should be able to limit yourself to only the good ones, while still eating primarily meat.

  • @judgejury5177
    @judgejury5177 2 місяці тому

    Great video!! I’ve been waiting for these 2 to hookup for awhile. I just wish it was a little longer. Now can we please get Dr.Shawn Baker and Dr. Paul Saldino together. I’d love to see that!!

  • @johnhasse3995
    @johnhasse3995 7 місяців тому +7

    You guys training and body building is totally non normal. You look great, but that might be the only great benefit. The crucial question is: How does this program end in health and longevity? How should more 'normal' people approach health and longevity? and does your individual experience even have any reflection relative to 'normal'?

    • @BloodFireDeath_
      @BloodFireDeath_ 2 місяці тому

      Start exercising. There is zero reason not to. Normal people lift weights and exercise.

  • @PureWaterSolutions
    @PureWaterSolutions 6 місяців тому

    UR CATCHING EVERYBODY FILP FLOPPING! LOVE IT

  • @aracelypadilla4658
    @aracelypadilla4658 7 місяців тому +6

    Love fruit! Especially berries and red apples.

  • @orion9k
    @orion9k 7 місяців тому +3

    17:30 if you have these slight more joint pains after carbs, I can highly recommend supplementing with MSM.
    Personally all pains and faster recovery from taking 4x800mg per day, if I drop it down to 800mg or 2x800mg, I can start feeling the joint pains slowly creeping back in.
    MSM is simply amazing.
    Also combining with collagen, vitamin c and fish oil, but if I had to only pick 2 of these 4 supplements for joint and bone pain, I would take MSM and fishoil.
    But I still do believe all 4 together creates an amazing synergy for joint and bone health and overall improved recovery from workouts.

  • @vintagegirlsforever
    @vintagegirlsforever 6 місяців тому

    We all do the experiments or have to see what is best ❤ Meat heals ! Nice collab ! Shared at USMC facilities ❤
    Semper Fi

  • @zachary813
    @zachary813 7 місяців тому +6

    Last summer, ala Saladino, I ate a half of watermelon. So good. Half hour later my blood sugar was 187. I did some brisk walking (felt like a Tesla) and it came down to 120 at time of measurement. But the carb felt electric.

    • @defeqel6537
      @defeqel6537 7 місяців тому +10

      If you've been low carb for a long time, then you really should take it easy when adding carbs, your pancreas will not have any stored insulin and will take a while (30-60 minutes) to produce enough to start lowering your blood glucose

  • @jjax5974
    @jjax5974 7 місяців тому +2

    the pendulum swings back to "just eat real food"

  • @laurafuller8528
    @laurafuller8528 7 місяців тому +18

    Fruit is an amazing whole food and a very pleasant way to add variety to carnivore. Most us us CRAVE variety.

    • @drseanpatrick696
      @drseanpatrick696 7 місяців тому +2

      You’ll find that if you eat fat and protein until it no longer tastes good then you’ll be satiated enough and lose cravings which are nutrient deficiencies that signal you to seek other foods.

    • @spanishpeaches2930
      @spanishpeaches2930 7 місяців тому

      I agree. I can happily fill my face on meat , eggs, fish, butter etc and feel fully satiated. However, i do enjoy some fruit occasionally. Berries especially and a few nuts.

  • @perrysebastian6928
    @perrysebastian6928 7 місяців тому +1

    Awesome! A couple of my favorite content channels in the same place!!

  • @gabrielbarrantes6946
    @gabrielbarrantes6946 7 місяців тому +6

    People don't realize this simple thing, prior to agriculture would be really really hard to ingest more than 50g of carbs in a day, unless you find honey or something...
    Fruits were low in sugar and really really high in fiber, tuberbs were poisonous and probably consumed as survival food...
    Probably a few carbs would be optimal (okish), but not as modern humans do...

    • @suew4609
      @suew4609 7 місяців тому +1

      But, who’s to say that that was the optimal diet for humans? They didn’t live very long back then. Also, exactly when do you start counting a diet as optimal, in what era or age? We all originally came out of Africa, so they tell us, so maybe that was the optimal diet and when we migrated to other climates maybe that was the optimal diet. Who really knows? I think you do what works for you!

    • @ZackRamsey14
      @ZackRamsey14 7 місяців тому +3

      This is not true, there is a hunter gatherer tribe Chris Knobbe talks about that gets 90% calories from tubers. Many that eat fruit and honey get more than 50g a day. Hunter gatherer tribes have been known to masticate fruits and spit out the fiber, and energy in the wild is one of the most prized things for life, period. Glycogen in fresh kills as well, I don't see any reason at all ancient humans couldn't have gathered 100-200g of carbs relatively consistently

    • @freehatespeech6804
      @freehatespeech6804 7 місяців тому +1

      I can eat way more than 50g of berries per day by walking out to the forest around where I live. How many berries I want to eat is based only on how much time I want to spend picking them; the amounts are unlimited. If I lived in a hunter gatherer tribe, then we would pick the land clean and distribute the berries among us, so sure it would be limited, but I don't think you understand the amounts of berries that are available.

    • @ZackRamsey14
      @ZackRamsey14 7 місяців тому

      @@freehatespeech6804Thank you for a real world example, we've really been led astray by certain low carb narratives, I was there myself. The idea that carbs were almost never available just doesn't hold up

    • @user-od7fv9up6t
      @user-od7fv9up6t 7 місяців тому

      50g of berries have wayy wayy wayyy less than 50g of carbs. For example, 50g of blackberries have about 2g of net carbs. You would need to eat 1250g of blackberries everyday to eat 50g of net carbs per day. Good luck with that.@@freehatespeech6804

  • @marknasia5293
    @marknasia5293 7 місяців тому

    great interview! hitting it out of the park lately! great interviews.

  • @don.timeless4993
    @don.timeless4993 7 місяців тому +17

    I agree. i learned that sugars is not the problem, the problem is if it's not coming from whole food (that have minimum to no anti nutritions like fruit
    aw honey\milk\coconut water) that comes with the full package of nutritions to help metabolize those sugars & to trigger the satiety. but still may not work with some people because their history of eating processed food that made them sick to a point that they cant handle sugars even from whole foods & they are better off it. amazing interview having Dr Baker

    • @jeniferjohnson374
      @jeniferjohnson374 7 місяців тому +2

      Very well said

    • @Szilvia_Szilvia
      @Szilvia_Szilvia 7 місяців тому

      Whereever it comes from, it still breaks down into glucose, you're delusional.
      Also fructose from fruit is handled through a different pathway, doesn't show up in Hba1c and so you may get decades later a diagnosis of non-alcoholic fatty liver disease. I work with such people, it needs real grit to reverse...

    • @nickbuis3307
      @nickbuis3307 7 місяців тому +5

      With sugar, particularly, the poison is in the dose.

    • @defeqel6537
      @defeqel6537 7 місяців тому

      You agree on what, and with whom?

    • @don.timeless4993
      @don.timeless4993 7 місяців тому +3

      @@defeqel6537 with them both! that sugar is not the problem & the problem is when it comes from refined food that stripping nutritions & leaves chemicals

  • @johndrake3472
    @johndrake3472 3 місяці тому +1

    After being on a strict keto diet for 5 years, I noticed that if I cheat, I won't gain weight, but I can feel inflammation in my joints straight away.

  • @argentummolonlabe
    @argentummolonlabe 7 місяців тому +10

    I think the sugar is causing the joint pain. I notice that the next day if I go off carnivore.

    • @themagicbeard9432
      @themagicbeard9432 7 місяців тому +2

      Depending on how long you have been on carnivore will depend on your gut microbiome. You may have to add little by little and see if you react after a few weeks

    • @keshavrao212
      @keshavrao212 7 місяців тому +1

      ​​@@themagicbeard9432true,you wont feel particularly great after adding meat when you have only plants your entire life. You need some time to expose.

  • @PieraB
    @PieraB 7 місяців тому +9

    Dr Baker is the king of Carnivore 100% and Thomas is the King of Clickbait/Affiliate marketing. The only reason I watched this was to listen to Dr Baker. And he never fails to deliver. Thanks Dr B!

    • @ddhqj2023
      @ddhqj2023 7 місяців тому +1

      You didn't notice that the one selling was Baker? Wake up.

    • @PieraB
      @PieraB 7 місяців тому +1

      @@ddhqj2023what’s he selling? He never offered a “coupon code” 😆

    • @PieraB
      @PieraB 7 місяців тому +2

      @@ddhqj2023and the title of this video is CLEARLY click bait, marketing g 101

  • @johnferro2314
    @johnferro2314 7 місяців тому +6

    5 days of apples is not an experiment. It really isn’t anything. Give it 30 days different fruits honey etc also different amounts and timing. How did you feel first 5 days of carnivore?

    • @firmbeliever3847
      @firmbeliever3847 7 місяців тому +4

      Exactly. 💯

    • @stevetb7777
      @stevetb7777 7 місяців тому +3

      It was an experiment to prove the bias he already has. Dr. Eric Berg recently posted a video detailing his two week experiment on the carnivore diet. Two weeks??? How do these folks not know, 30 days is a start. 90 days is a real experiment, a dietary change really needs to be done for 90+ days! =D

    • @SurrogateActivities
      @SurrogateActivities 6 місяців тому

      Yeah people in comments keep saying that Baker is not dogmatic unlike the community. In reality he's still a dogmatist, just a polite one.

  • @frankshallenberger9013
    @frankshallenberger9013 2 місяці тому

    If the VCO2/VO2 is low at rest combined with a sub-optimal VO2 at RER=1.0 this indicates a person who should avoid carbs - conversely, if the resting ratio is low combined with and elevated VO2 at RER=1.0 it indicates that person will do better adding in carbs - this is a perfect way to determine who will do best on what kind of diet - i do this with my patients all the time.
    dr. shallenberger, HMD, MD
    author of Bursting With Energy

  • @dewilton7712
    @dewilton7712 7 місяців тому +6

    I can't do apples and most fruit except for berries without gut issues. I am slowly adding things back to my diet to see what affects me. So far oatmeal seems fine and I will be testing cabbage and salad next.

    • @HeeersEllery
      @HeeersEllery 7 місяців тому +3

      Same here. It seems as if about a half cup of frozen blueberries is my limit from recent testing. Not only gut issues for myself but sinus congestion (leading to infections) also. Bananas are the worst for me as they are histamine liberators.

    • @dewilton7712
      @dewilton7712 7 місяців тому +6

      @@HeeersEllery Bananas and apples are the worst for me and they used to be my favorite. Guar gum and soy lecithen are actually the worst for me. They hit me in about 15 minutes. They are in 80% of processed foods.

    • @M13x13M
      @M13x13M 7 місяців тому +1

      I keep trying oatmeal but don’t feel well after but I need to gain weight . Bananas are fine . I add a little raw honey to homemade A2 milk yogurt.

    • @dewilton7712
      @dewilton7712 7 місяців тому +1

      @@M13x13M I have to use A2 as well. A2 makes good thick skyr.

  • @marybeth6676
    @marybeth6676 7 місяців тому

    Oh, I loved hearing Dr. Shawn say this.😊 Yes!!!!! Fruit didnt change his blood results!!!!!!

  • @brandinshaeffer8970
    @brandinshaeffer8970 7 місяців тому +3

    I added berries in to my diet because as a woman I simply do better hormonally with a little carb.

  • @deekelley891
    @deekelley891 7 місяців тому

    I watched a Type I diabetic doctor, who is also an ultramarathon runner, discuss his experiment fasting during a marathon rather than carbo loading-and he had great results. He ran 5 marathons in a row in a fasted state. He believes we certainly don’t need to do that and believes humans simply don’t need 3 meals a day! Fascinating!

  • @rikstar.
    @rikstar. 7 місяців тому +3

    Fruit today is not the same as 100 years ago. Fruit has been genetically modified to just pieces of candy today

  • @dreaminginnoother
    @dreaminginnoother 7 місяців тому +1

    Shawn is the man. Love how this guy has done so much to change the game and help change how people think about diet.

  • @kekceo3942
    @kekceo3942 7 місяців тому +6

    King of carnivore, with labs of an 87 year old to prove it

    • @leemanwrong
      @leemanwrong 7 місяців тому

      Can't be that bad if he's still breaking world records.

  • @3335pooh
    @3335pooh 7 місяців тому +2

    great interview!

  • @CursedWheelieBin
    @CursedWheelieBin 7 місяців тому +1

    Way to make a good first impression with the “No one is coming to save you” t-shirt 😂.
    What a bell end

  • @czawaideh
    @czawaideh 7 місяців тому +3

    Oh my goodness you scared me with this headliner. I was thinking oh no now is he going back to having that on a regular basis just like the other influencer. What a relief that's not the case

    • @davidgmillsatty1900
      @davidgmillsatty1900 7 місяців тому

      Saladino is a lean mass hyper responder. He had very low BMI, very high total cholesterol, very High HDL and very low triglycerides. Baker does not. Only about 5% of low carb dieters are lean mass hyper responders. Lean mass hyper responders do need carbs. They are extremely active or they wouldn’t be so lean. Baker is active too but mostly he does high intensity workouts. Saladino brags about he surfs all day.

    • @roachums123
      @roachums123 7 місяців тому +2

      Why would it matter to you if he did start eating fruit? This is a strange reaction to a stranger's food choices.

    • @stevetb7777
      @stevetb7777 7 місяців тому

      What would it mean to you if he did come out and say he's eating fruit now out of necessity like Saladino did?

  • @matthewpinson4208
    @matthewpinson4208 7 місяців тому

    I LOVE how open-minded Thomas is! 💯💯💯

  • @Fitsoccerqueen
    @Fitsoccerqueen 7 місяців тому +5

    Love everyone losing it about thumbnail and no one listened to interview 😂

    • @jared2.028
      @jared2.028 7 місяців тому

      The crazy world.we.live in😂

  • @tonyperez7907
    @tonyperez7907 7 місяців тому +2

    If You do a 90 to 95 % Carnivore diet, it will be fine. I eat mushrooms, onions and cabbage twice a week. A small amount of candy once in a blue moon is good. Great treat 😊😊😊 Love blueberries or Strawberry on my cottage cheese ❤❤❤

  • @rosieaustin9911
    @rosieaustin9911 7 місяців тому +74

    Why do you guys always talk like only bodybuilders watch you? I think most people watch you to be healthy and lose weight

    • @affamus515
      @affamus515 7 місяців тому +3

      Because this is rhe only way they can talk

    • @garrettcarther4741
      @garrettcarther4741 7 місяців тому +2

      Shh

    • @ncd7184
      @ncd7184 7 місяців тому +12

      I think a core part of being healthy is incorporating strength training with heavy weight. This helps maintain muscle, especially when you get older and also helps to keep healthy levels of testosterone

    • @2cents_in_the_dirt
      @2cents_in_the_dirt 7 місяців тому +15

      I don’t hear them talking about bodybuilding at all. Training/working out is something everyone should be doing, especially to be healthy and lose weight. That’s why they talk about optimizing training.

    • @udaman100
      @udaman100 7 місяців тому +4

      Because any person truly interested in bettering themselves also lifts weights

  • @yogimaster1
    @yogimaster1 7 місяців тому +1

    I've tried all kinds of diets and I must admit the keto diet felt the best. However, it's obviously something that needs to be cycled. The question I've always asked is "what is the ideal cycle on and off?" I'm finally feeling that the ideal time being on keto should be less than the time off keto. Keto can be done by water fasting or by following a very low carb (keto) diet, but I believe these diets should be less than eating a balanced diet of meat, vegetables and some fruits. Fruits in particular should probably be eaten mainly in the summer and fall when the fruits are in season locally. There are advantages to eating meat & eggs, vegetables, and fruits and they should probably all be included at some time throughout the year.

  • @GeorgeMcDougall-gz4tp
    @GeorgeMcDougall-gz4tp 7 місяців тому +6

    Apples are high fodmap fruit of course he’s going to feel slightly bloated after not eatingfodmapz for like 6 years…

  • @gregpastic6910
    @gregpastic6910 7 місяців тому +3

    Our indigenous populations on this continent have been devastated by the modern Food Pyramid guidelines. They suffer from higher rates of diatetes and obesity, and all the consequent illnesses, than any other ethnic group. Their historical way of eating is as close to carnivore as one can get. But as of the last several generations their diet is mostly sugar and carbs now. If there are any other known reasons for the physical and health declines suffered by indigenous peoples please share what they could be. I see no other reasons as compelling as this.

  • @derpy_blue
    @derpy_blue 7 місяців тому +29

    I love that people are changing their minds on stuff. Elimination diets are only good for a period of time, adding more variety is what make it sustainable.

    • @xnoreq
      @xnoreq 7 місяців тому

      Eh no, there are tons of delusional/mislead people that are part of the carnivore diet tribe/cult that will tell you that their diet is neither an extreme elimination diet nor that it is temporary.

    • @kylemcarthur
      @kylemcarthur 7 місяців тому

      That’s not what is happening here. Just reading the caption is what you have done.
      He hasn’t changed his mind.
      He is experimenting to show the bullsh*t that is current cholesterol measuring.
      He worked out fasted, his ‘cholesterol’ goes up.
      He ate apples for a couple weeks, nothing happened.

    • @DregGayton777
      @DregGayton777 7 місяців тому +10

      Watch the whole video not just the title

    • @pinksupremacy6076
      @pinksupremacy6076 7 місяців тому +8

      Carnivore has been done in many places though, by many different races over generations. It's not really an elimination diet but more a dietary option.

    • @4ivar
      @4ivar 7 місяців тому +2

      You didnt listen to what he said

  • @aristocraticnietzschean-ma1023
    @aristocraticnietzschean-ma1023 3 місяці тому

    Dr. Shawn Baker is right about how many foods high in fiber like fruits and vegetables make your digestive system feel bad. I am currently doing a low-carb diet with green vegetables like green cabbage and carrots but I am thinking of doing my same diet but without vegetables which would be a carnivore diet

  • @colvardy8691
    @colvardy8691 7 місяців тому +3

    Otzi the ice man, gives us interesting information from 5000 years ago. they did stomach tests. He had meat , Lots of fat, plus grains (wheat).The meat was probably dried and also charcoal.
    I found it interesting . In the cold mountains i'd expect fat but not grain .He also had arterial fat build up ,so that's nothing new , I thought this was a problem from our new age diets.
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