Yes but you have to remember the spring in the chamber that holds all the rounds can wear out usually so it's best if you only throw in like six rounds maybe 10 at the most
@@johnaberm6177I’ve heard you can take the spring out which gives it more space for ammo and obviously wouldn’t wear out as fast bc it’s not there but I don’t know if that’s actually true
@cynical8276 how would that work, I guess you'd have to point the gun at the sky when you cock it, sounds awkward, I am considering modifying and leaving it with gas unpressed to not use as home defense wink wink so this spring this interests me greatly, maybe I jisy buy a bunch of springs and replace it every 6 months they can't be expensive.....
@@EZ-D-FIANT and same I bought the gun itself modified from eBay and have about 10 rounds in it now with gas unpressed but my main concern as well is the spring being messed up from it being loaded all the time but ya hopefully the springs aren’t too much I might need to get a new one who knows 😂
I'm in the UK and I've got one for home defence. I keep it in my bedroom and I'll only use it if I feel my life is in danger from someone trying to entre that room, which is a valid defence.
Hi mate I agree we should be allowed to defend our self but your comment about it being a valid defence is not actually correct. I wish it were but don’t try it to see if it’s true. Your probably better off butt stroking them with it, that would be classed as minimum force.
normally we have strict legislation in Denmark, but here there are no limits for co2 weapons, only that you must be 18 years old, I have the 40 J model here.
@@feetfirstintohell6930 you say that from a place of privilege and comfort. You think i havent' lost anybody. For hell's sake we had our land taken away by white settlers and in Mexico my family has been victim of cartel violence. I've lost uncles and cousins. We native americans have lost more people than anyone to gun violence.
@@indigenousamerican3148 I am well aware of the persecution of the native indigenous population of America throughout history. Yet as your original comment implies that you are grateful for “the freedoms” you have in America, and as this video is related to co2 powered air weapons, one would only assume that you’re comment refers to your being grateful for all the 2nd amendment firearms rights your country and its citizens currently have…those same firearms which you have just stated to me have taken the lives of countless members of your family, and as you will no doubt be aware more recently, 19 children. When the odds are it’s more dangerous to be a child in school, than a front line police officer, you really need to take a step back and look at the things you value in life. If I have misinterpreted your original comment to mean some appreciation other than that of your legal right to bare arms, then that is my mistake. I come from a country where thankfully firearms ownership his heavily regulated and licensed to the point where mass shootings are a rarity, not a daily occurrence.
@@feetfirstintohell6930 No he just deflected your valid point my using emotive subjects as a distraction. School shooting have nothing to do with cartel violence or colonialism. If we take what he said at face value, he basically said he doesn't care about school shootings because his people have already lost so much to colonialism. It's hands down the dumbest thing I've read on the internet today. The only valid point he made that we as Brits are privileged to live in a country that has effectively controlled guns so we don't face the same threats of violence that Americans do. I doubt that's what he meant when he said you were coming from a place of privilege but that the way i'm going to interpret it lol
Great gun, I own and modified one to 40 joules and added a light laser combo in case of night use. It will punch through 1/2 plywood with all aluminum or PVC coated steel balls.
@@ModernIntel What specific act and section do you think prevents you using this for self defence in the UK (I am ex senior UK police officer who taught lessons to other officers in this area) .. it is legal to use a shotgun to defend your home in the UK under the right circumstances, you seem to believe the UK law lets you stab a burglar with a 12 inch razor sharp ceramic kitchen knife BUT you can`t shot him with a paintball gun .. again what act and section do you think prevents this gun being used?
@@goodboy-cl7qv ik heb die van mij gekocht in de wapenwinkel genaamd Van Wetteren, helaas is de 40J niet in stock alleen de 16J, en er zijn nog zeer veel reservaties die ze moeten afhandelen voor de 40J. Geloof dat ze zo goed als overal uitverkocht zijn. beste is kijken naar een wapenwinkel die ze aanbied en een reservatie maken denk ik.
Cracking review as always Michael! Please don’t forget about me when you get your hands on the 16J! Failing that I might have to buy now as I hate waiting 😂
I'd like to thank you for the run down- I found it incredibly difficult to load, but watching- and then figuring out there was a little 'bump' in the chamber to lock the guide into helped significantly. Still is a major PITA tho- maybe I'll get more into it but it is high in the regret column right now.
Even when using pepper balls, I wonder if it's efficient for home defense. Won't they deform and jam when you leave them in the magazine all the time? And if you don't, I don't see anyone loading this while the burglars are already in the house.
Nice air gun. With 68 caliber and long barrel, this air gun has lot of potential. There is already hpa adapter for T4E series markers, to which you can attach remote line and run it off external paintball tank. I would be surprised if that adapter doesn't work (provided you make a small hole through butt end cover).
Oh WOW! I just NOW read you nice reply, and TYSM! ✨🤗✨ I called and spoke with one of my buds who works for "PA" and he gave me the true 'skinny' on the gun..Own it now and really like it. Take care.
Bloody heck you can’t even use a paintball gun for self defense in your own home? What’s next? If you don’t allow your wife to be unwilling penetrated that’s unlawful? UK sucks.
@@jessed1586 it sure does bud, but a lot of us here are getting stuff like this, as it''s all we're allowed to have legally, and in the not to distant future, we're possibly going to need it to defend our homes from invaders that our useless gov have let in, I don't think they'll be going to the police then, as it will have already hit the fan. I will use reasonable force to defend my family.
Because we're a backwards country, busy importing tens of thousands of illegal immigrants who bring their own weapons! Of course, we're not allowed to defend ourselves when that lot decide they want OUR stuff. Madness.
It's perfect for home-defense it's not going to be any good out in a playground playing with others you know with paint. Mainly because in a paint situation you're trying to be somewhat quiet in that cocking is pretty loud but if you use steel core with a rubber outer the ball will be pretty hard-hitting
The 16J is like rocking horse sh*t, had it on pre-order late last year...but needed the cash. HPA with best-fittings 88g adaptor and the valve power kit might be worth a play with...if I ever find one...
@@truth.tactical5580 We can actually buy the 40J version here in the US now. Got one on order and should get it in the next few months as they're a little back ordered at the moment LoL.
I have just that. Heavy slugs in 6,35mm going about 950 fps, Cutting a tiny piece if a drill 1mm or 1mm Allen key. It will fly after passing the human body with ease.
I think its only effectice for SD if you use pepper rounds. For pain purposes, any old 12 gauge with birdshot or rubber slugs would be a more reliable option.
At 7.5 Joules Pepperballs are your best friend with this one. At 16 Joules it's good for both. And at 40+ Joules it kinetic rounds only at Pepperball rounds would explode in the barrel and breach from the air pressure.
@@truth.tactical5580 I need to hire someone to do it for me. I have arthritis and can't see as good as I used to. Please, anyone who knows someone who can get paid to do this for me let me know. I have other jobs for a technician to work on my airguns.
I don't use paint. Just Uncle Floyd's Hell fire pepper balls. With a surprise... .25 cal steel ballbearings, and or bb's can be used in different amounts making your ammo very versatile. I swear by Floyd's products.🤠
At 40 Joules, the kinetic rounds are traveling at close to 400 mph on average. Imagine getting hit in the chest, groin, legs, or knees by an object traveling that fast. A headshot at that speed would at best cause fracturing of the skull and at worse kill the person outright. I have a 40+ Joule HDX and at 20 feet I can split a coconut with 2-3 shots. The first punches a hole through the coconut and the second and third split it in half from the kinetic force.
I am actually looking into buying one of those, we don’t have any restrictions regarding the power, I saw that 16j and 40j are the same price. Sorry for asking a stupid question but as far as you want to use it for home defense is it gonna make a huge difference to have 16j or a 40j?
The NWO are trying to depopulate its citizens, carbon zero = genocide...criminals help in that equation. Zero Carbon means less humans , more AI Robots and WEF Billionaires Dictatorship.
@@ModernIntel while I have your attention I have a couple of quick questions you may be able to answer thank you please! 😁 Do we know the max PSI these can take? Is the only difference between the 7 and 16 the restrictor or is it just similar without one, (I want to push the psi so if the 16j is physically beefier in some way it decides for me, if that makes sense)?
What specific act and section do you think prevents you using this for self defence in the UK (I am ex senior UK police officer who taught lessons to other officers in this area) .. it is legal to use a shotgun to defend your home in the UK under the right circumstances, you seem to believe the UK law lets you stab a burglar with a 12 inch razor sharp ceramic kitchen knife BUT you can`t shot him with a paintball gun .. again what act and section do you think prevents this gun being used?
Hi Bert439, power output will be easily fixed when some clever peron makes a HPA convertor for it....this doesn't suffer from poor quality like previous pump action paintball shotguns...
@@IceBreaker.22 My a$$ you do. Best beer is found in Slovakia and Czech Republic. Then Germany and the UK. All you have is these sissy bears with tons of alcohol that people just sip outside pretending it is summer in August. As for the fries, it's just normal overpriced fries drowned in Mayo or ketchup. I have had much better fries practically everywhere in the world. In fact, Belgium is by far the most mundane and least special country I have ever been to. Some good architecture and nice spots, but that is pretty much it. Am glad to have gotten the money though - that is all that it is good for: make a ton of money and leave.
By law nothing. But if you just grabbed it not planned and to protect yourself you can fight the charge. Just never ever say it was there for self defence use.
Ask your local filth station...I did, and in the home you can defend yourself within reason. Not sure about on the doorstep or chasing down the road is the same. Think about it, if they have a knife what you gonna do take it and say well the law says I cant use that home defence gun against an intruder, I'll just die. If you don't have a gun, get to the kitchen, f the bs laws. Think Tony Martin the farmer. He used a real gun.
I guess you have to add more words for him to acknowledge the obvious question you got bruh…but It depends man, if you don’t have a firearm then hell yeah
But I would use steel balls. I wouldn’t care about the fps drop. I run 11mm steel balls in my tpm1 pistol and it run right thru thick liquor bottles at about 20 feet
May be I commented before , such a good video for info but none you ever do a grouping shoot. So we know it's not meant to be that accurate, but a gouping at 20 30 or 40 foot would be so helpful .... speaking based on the 16 Joule I can't believe no-one has done that. Very important for knowing what is in on your hand.
If you're shooting someone at 20-40 feet in self defense, you're going to be arrested for assault with a weapon. Most of the time you'll be using it at 7-12 feet in a self defense scenario. Whether or not it can group a shot at 40 feet would be irrelevant.
I got 40J version upgraded with a valve from homedefence24 up to approx 70J. Measured by cheap and not very accurate chinese chronofraph. I my country there is no upper limit of nozle power still you register with acordance with the regulations. Tested with range of balls from ruber to steel. Best performance with aluminum 7.5 gr.
Just cannot see the point of this gun....its time manufacturers like Umarex etc ramped up their guns to each Countrys legal maximum...at that point sales will touch the Stratosphere.
@@ModernIntel Yeah I understand that ...what I'm saying is most of their pistols are barely 2J....pistols are my plinkers choice but even them at just 2J are disappointing....thats why so many other plinkers ramp up their guns for better penetration /power levels....I collect the Umarex legends range.
For some reason the 40 Joules version for the US is going to be orange and black which is ridiculous. Apparently the other two versions for the US are going to be all black. Go figure. Thanks for the testing.
i have a question...? didn't u see he only used 2 12gram CO2 now that would make that 24 so he didn't say u can unscrew that and stick a 88gram co2 then that's a lot of deference
These items have to have the same power as our utterly useless air rifles in Britain? Very disappointing. You're looking for a constant 100 joules minimum for true home defence weapons, so these markers don't cut it. Fun for paintball, though, they look good too.
@@ModernIntel Why we put up with that crap I'll never know. We, the public, literally have no genuine means of self-defence in this country as we see the ever-increasing criminal gangs roam around our streets carrying everything from machetes to unregistered firearms.
It could if you hit them several times it could be a deterrent. You can load pepper ball ammunition in it which I think if you hit them once or twice would be enough for them to drop. At which point you detain them until police arrive.
If the so called thug is trying to actually kill you yea but most people aren’t trying to get into a shootout let alone a murder charge I feel like anyone who just sees the shotgun might be deterred by the look of it
OMFG😱!!! Is there ANYONE out there who can give us a TRUE evaluation of this gun?!?! I am SO sick & tired of clicking to watch a video of someone who has USED the friggin' gun for not even a few weeks or months and KNOWS what he or she has paid for, other than hearing something like, "I JUST GOT THE BOX TODAY!, so let's see what we have here, shall we?!?" Sheesh! I feel better noew.🙄 Don't get all 'iffy' on me, please folks. This is about the TWELTH video of UNBOXING the d@mn thing, know-what-I-mean bytterbean? lol Oh_ and I DO like this channel. At least this provider usually provides some VERY useful information, so THANKS for that.
Sure Michael what do you wanna know? I own the 16j version and 40j version most these clowns on here are a bunch of used up wanks lol complaining about stupid stuff my 16j is worthless no just the user is worthless lol and inept here in the US we've already got the hdx 16j version with 2 mods and a firing pin swap to 40j on 2×12 gram that's 300fps with a 8gram grimburg Jul round I've seen up to 315 -320 fps with crb Canada riot balls they weigh 9.9 grams so no umarex did ot right just sad the ppl who have the most access to these can't figure it out the ones to get these released last to us in the US we figure all thr mods out hell ill sell you a brand new modded one still new in box never been shot just modified for 450 plus shipping its got the quick piercing c02 unlike 40j version this version is the ultimate home defense that's all the 40j with ninja shp reg and bottle no mods 65 joules out of box
The pump lol is slower compared to the non pump sawed off pistol grip. That model costs a whopping $250 + 12% tax in Canada. All replica style Air handguns are now permanently banned in CANADA. As per C-21. Vote gang leader Trudeau out & his gang the R.C.M.P.
My God. This is trash. Not a paintball recommended paintball gun. I think it's kinda BS that it don't work out of the box without mods. A good paintball gun gotta shoot under 300 and over 260 out of the box if it doesn't have a Velocity adjuster
This isn't a "paintball gun" in the recreational sense. It's a CO2 powered gun that happens to be able to shoot paintball. Its marketed under their home defense line and in that sense it does work out of the box providing you get the right one for your country. That is the problem when recreational paintball reviewers gloss over that fact and players misunderstand its entire point. This is also why T4E products don't come with velocity adjustment.
@@lolzlolz69 Right. My chief complaint is companies like Modern Combat Sports sells these for "paintball" and it confuses everybody. 😕 I'm not against pneumatic guns etc. Just when they are advertised to paintballers to buy for paintball when it really isn't ideal.
U can buy it with a tank with 45j for a long time. In Austria there is no limit u could also go to 100j, but that’s murde, but u can also buy a rifle with 18.
@@russellwalker3899 you should check out “PoliceActivity” here on UA-cam. It’s a great example of the kind of crazy stuff that cops in America have to deal with. If they weren’t given the ability to adequately protect themselves, we wouldn’t have many willing cops at all.
Bullcrap, if you lots this up with either pepper/teargas balls OR solid steel projectiles, and just keep shooting. I bet you all my savings all the pissing whats going on is the piss coming through the extra bladder hole you shot. These steel balls are skull crackers. 40 joule is not a joke. I know you yanks prefer firearms, and rightly so. But European country's have their citizens turned into sitting ducks, with ever increasing crime rate, no protection by police (always turn up to late) and all the borders open for the barbarians to storm in. That's whats going on over here, controlled demolition of the countries, they didn't make 1 stupid mistake, not 2 or 3. Litteraly every step of the way, they "fuck up", in other words, it's policy to fuck up. Now I don't get to deep in the how and why about this, but I do know it is factual. The EU is imploding itself, and ofcourse theyr is an agenda, we will see.
What makes this great for home defense is being able to store so long and instantly pressurizing the gun in a moment when needed
Yes but you have to remember the spring in the chamber that holds all the rounds can wear out usually so it's best if you only throw in like six rounds maybe 10 at the most
@@johnaberm6177I’ve heard you can take the spring out which gives it more space for ammo and obviously wouldn’t wear out as fast bc it’s not there but I don’t know if that’s actually true
@cynical8276 how would that work, I guess you'd have to point the gun at the sky when you cock it, sounds awkward, I am considering modifying and leaving it with gas unpressed to not use as home defense wink wink so this spring this interests me greatly, maybe I jisy buy a bunch of springs and replace it every 6 months they can't be expensive.....
@@EZ-D-FIANT yeah that’s exactly what I was thinking and why u asked bc if doesnt sound right but maybe it could work idk
@@EZ-D-FIANT and same I bought the gun itself modified from eBay and have about 10 rounds in it now with gas unpressed but my main concern as well is the spring being messed up from it being loaded all the time but ya hopefully the springs aren’t too much I might need to get a new one who knows 😂
I'm in the UK and I've got one for home defence. I keep it in my bedroom and I'll only use it if I feel my life is in danger from someone trying to entre that room, which is a valid defence.
what joule do you have?
Hi mate I agree we should be allowed to defend our self but your comment about it being a valid defence is not actually correct. I wish it were but don’t try it to see if it’s true. Your probably better off butt stroking them with it, that would be classed as minimum force.
40 Joule is merely the entry level required in the zombie apocalypse called South Africa.
normally we have strict legislation in Denmark, but here there are no limits for co2 weapons, only that you must be 18 years old, I have the 40 J model here.
Er der virkelig ingen øvre grænse for kraftigen nå det gælder co2?😎
From Denmark, got the 40 joule version. Good kick to it.
Seeing things like this make me apreciate more the freedoms weve got here in America 🇺🇸.
How do you think those parents in Uvalde that lost their children feel about those freedoms that you hold so dear right now…
@@feetfirstintohell6930 you say that from a place of privilege and comfort. You think i havent' lost anybody. For hell's sake we had our land taken away by white settlers and in Mexico my family has been victim of cartel violence. I've lost uncles and cousins. We native americans have lost more people than anyone to gun violence.
@@indigenousamerican3148 I am well aware of the persecution of the native indigenous population of America throughout history. Yet as your original comment implies that you are grateful for “the freedoms” you have in America, and as this video is related to co2 powered air weapons, one would only assume that you’re comment refers to your being grateful for all the 2nd amendment firearms rights your country and its citizens currently have…those same firearms which you have just stated to me have taken the lives of countless members of your family, and as you will no doubt be aware more recently, 19 children. When the odds are it’s more dangerous to be a child in school, than a front line police officer, you really need to take a step back and look at the things you value in life.
If I have misinterpreted your original comment to mean some appreciation other than that of your legal right to bare arms, then that is my mistake. I come from a country where thankfully firearms ownership his heavily regulated and licensed to the point where mass shootings are a rarity, not a daily occurrence.
@@feetfirstintohell6930 No he just deflected your valid point my using emotive subjects as a distraction. School shooting have nothing to do with cartel violence or colonialism. If we take what he said at face value, he basically said he doesn't care about school shootings because his people have already lost so much to colonialism. It's hands down the dumbest thing I've read on the internet today. The only valid point he made that we as Brits are privileged to live in a country that has effectively controlled guns so we don't face the same threats of violence that Americans do. I doubt that's what he meant when he said you were coming from a place of privilege but that the way i'm going to interpret it lol
@@feetfirstintohell6930 You are a fool.
Nice review… I have one on order and would love to see more on the types of amo and accessories mods going forward as mine will be a project
Easy cleanup , came as described fast. Great product
Wait, you can't use a paintball marker for home self defense in the UK? Are there ANY benefits to living in the UK... at all?
Nope... 0 benefits
It's run by lefty woke homosexuals who like to dictate what they think is best for us, or them.
No you cant its bullshit, ive gor a 16joule with steel bearings and id still use it, screw em
Great gun, I own and modified one to 40 joules and added a light laser combo in case of night use. It will punch through 1/2 plywood with all aluminum or PVC coated steel balls.
Yup and it'll split a coconut in 1-3 shots, so imagine what it would do with a headshot.
Very good I’d like to see more of your videos above this you’re a max 50 caliber keep coming very educational
Thanks, will do!
@@ModernIntel What specific act and section do you think prevents you using this for self defence in the UK (I am ex senior UK police officer who taught lessons to other officers in this area) .. it is legal to use a shotgun to defend your home in the UK under the right circumstances, you seem to believe the UK law lets you stab a burglar with a 12 inch razor sharp ceramic kitchen knife BUT you can`t shot him with a paintball gun .. again what act and section do you think prevents this gun being used?
Hi, I own a 40J in Belgium, it`s legal here and also legal to use it for home defense, looking to upgrade with the new power kit up to 90J
Hey Patrick i allso live in Belgium where did u buy yours at? Kind regards
Where can you find such a powerkit?
@@goodboy-cl7qv ik heb die van mij gekocht in de wapenwinkel genaamd Van Wetteren, helaas is de 40J niet in stock alleen de 16J, en er zijn nog zeer veel reservaties die ze moeten afhandelen voor de 40J. Geloof dat ze zo goed als overal uitverkocht zijn. beste is kijken naar een wapenwinkel die ze aanbied en een reservatie maken denk ik.
@@DEATHROW222 okey bedankt voor deze informatie!
Maak geen slapende honden wakker
Cracking review as always Michael! Please don’t forget about me when you get your hands on the 16J! Failing that I might have to buy now as I hate waiting 😂
i got me the 40j version and im living in Belgium, it is also legal to use for home defense
What company did you order the 40 joule version from?
Can you Buy one for me and send it to me to Germany ?
Just ordered mine this is 9 months ago these are impossible to find buy try duke defense in South africa
Great informative video buddy,more please.
Thanks, will do!
You’re the first guy on utube I’ve seen load this thing properly
I'd like to thank you for the run down- I found it incredibly difficult to load, but watching- and then figuring out there was a little 'bump' in the chamber to lock the guide into helped significantly. Still is a major PITA tho- maybe I'll get more into it but it is high in the regret column right now.
I Honestly find it way easier to remove the scew,spring and follower from the loading tube and load them in that way.
In Swiss we have the 40 joule version free available, but it uses the 88gr co2 bottle! anyway, amazing product!
Weekenden Göteborg the 40 joule version in denmark. And its legal to have and shot as long you are 18
Even when using pepper balls, I wonder if it's efficient for home defense. Won't they deform and jam when you leave them in the magazine all the time? And if you don't, I don't see anyone loading this while the burglars are already in the house.
This thing is badass. Im gonna get one asap
Nice air gun. With 68 caliber and long barrel, this air gun has lot of potential. There is already hpa adapter for T4E series markers, to which you can attach remote line and run it off external paintball tank. I would be surprised if that adapter doesn't work (provided you make a small hole through butt end cover).
This does work with the HDX moderncombatsports.co.uk/products/air-tank-adapter-for-hdr50-hds68-hdp
Oh WOW! I just NOW read you nice reply, and TYSM! ✨🤗✨
I called and spoke with one of my buds who works for "PA" and he gave me the true 'skinny' on the gun..Own it now and really like it.
Take care.
Bloody heck you can’t even use a paintball gun for self defense in your own home? What’s next? If you don’t allow your wife to be unwilling penetrated that’s unlawful? UK sucks.
@@jessed1586 it sure does bud, but a lot of us here are getting stuff like this, as it''s all we're allowed to have legally, and in the not to distant future, we're possibly going to need it to defend our homes from invaders that our useless gov have let in, I don't think they'll be going to the police then, as it will have already hit the fan. I will use reasonable force to defend my family.
In Swiss we have the 40 joule version free available, ID and contract, it will be not recorded in the state weapons register
How come u can't use a none lethal air gun for home self defense in the UK? it does not make sense to me!!!
The pussification of the British male and the subservience to King and Government has made the population used to bending over.
Because we're a backwards country, busy importing tens of thousands of illegal immigrants who bring their own weapons! Of course, we're not allowed to defend ourselves when that lot decide they want OUR stuff.
Madness.
Because the intruder will take you to court for hurting their feelings and human rights will come into it
@@notyourbusinessreallyisit9495 Sry for hurting your feelings Mr intruder!! while defending my self!! yes I'm guilty your Honor!!
@@Don187 I'd never agree to being guilty for defending my family. 11mm ball via catapult would be my first choice, or throwing knife 👍
40 joule for South Africa. I have one and we need it in this country.
It's perfect for home-defense it's not going to be any good out in a playground playing with others you know with paint. Mainly because in a paint situation you're trying to be somewhat quiet in that cocking is pretty loud but if you use steel core with a rubber outer the ball will be pretty hard-hitting
The 16J is like rocking horse sh*t, had it on pre-order late last year...but needed the cash. HPA with best-fittings 88g adaptor and the valve power kit might be worth a play with...if I ever find one...
Lol learn how to modify and you can pull 40 joules all day long lol
Good luck finding the 40j version just ordered one I know where 2 more are but I won't be sharing there very rare and non existent in the US so.
@@truth.tactical5580 non-existent there you go
@@truth.tactical5580 We can actually buy the 40J version here in the US now. Got one on order and should get it in the next few months as they're a little back ordered at the moment LoL.
Wold be much better with pcp.
This days it's no problem to build this chamber for 300bar and get a good shot count, like on the air rifles.
I have just that. Heavy slugs in 6,35mm going about 950 fps, Cutting a tiny piece if a drill 1mm or 1mm Allen key. It will fly after passing the human body with ease.
I think its only effectice for SD if you use pepper rounds. For pain purposes, any old 12 gauge with birdshot or rubber slugs would be a more reliable option.
At 7.5 Joules Pepperballs are your best friend with this one. At 16 Joules it's good for both. And at 40+ Joules it kinetic rounds only at Pepperball rounds would explode in the barrel and breach from the air pressure.
Could you please comment on the 11 joule version. Just got one, hope I didn't make a mistake.🤠
Hi John, we havent tested the 11joules yet, but found frostbite the best paint to use in the 7 and 16 Joule versions
Modify it and you'll get to 40j with 2×12gram version
@@truth.tactical5580 I need to hire someone to do it for me. I have arthritis and can't see as good as I used to. Please, anyone who knows someone who can get paid to do this for me let me know. I have other jobs for a technician to work on my airguns.
I don't use paint. Just Uncle Floyd's Hell fire pepper balls. With a surprise... .25 cal steel ballbearings, and or bb's can be used in different amounts making your ammo very versatile. I swear by Floyd's products.🤠
@@John-ql9piare you uk?
I also appreciate this, thank mate
Thank you too!
Can a byrna pepper or max round fit in the launcher. I know the round are .68 caliber
if its .68 and round then it should work (unless its very heavy)
what about the 40 joule? have you a video on that one and will that work for self defence for real with some kind of pepper balls,?
not legal for us to own it where we are...so no videos on that for now
I appreciate the imperial units
Austria...no limited airguns power😉
Will this gun hold together with 2200 psi coming out the regulator on hpa does anyone know?
wouldn't advise it... 800-900 psi is whats its designed to take
Any idea when 16 joule is due in the 🇬🇧
Stock from end of feb apparantly..
Up to 40 jewels where do I look that up?I don't understand what you're trying to say here in texas we use guns
Joules - is a measurement of energy
At 40 Joules, the kinetic rounds are traveling at close to 400 mph on average. Imagine getting hit in the chest, groin, legs, or knees by an object traveling that fast. A headshot at that speed would at best cause fracturing of the skull and at worse kill the person outright. I have a 40+ Joule HDX and at 20 feet I can split a coconut with 2-3 shots. The first punches a hole through the coconut and the second and third split it in half from the kinetic force.
I am actually looking into buying one of those, we don’t have any restrictions regarding the power, I saw that 16j and 40j are the same price. Sorry for asking a stupid question but as far as you want to use it for home defense is it gonna make a huge difference to have 16j or a 40j?
if your somewhere that allows you to use it for home defense then the 40J version is going be a lot more effective.
Are fully automatic paintball guns with 200 ball hoppers illegal in the UK? Honest, I'd rather use that and just hose someone down.
yes
Our kids here in America have the 40 joule to learn on.
Why can’t you use this for non lethal defence in the UK ?
Just look up the reasons online. Its a bit long to explain on here.
That's mind blowing
Because the UK is run by Eton Bum boys. The commies don't want you to feel safe in your own home.
The NWO are trying to depopulate its citizens, carbon zero = genocide...criminals help in that equation. Zero Carbon means less humans , more AI Robots and WEF Billionaires Dictatorship.
Uk anything over 7.5joules of power is classed as a firearm so prohibited
Love it, want it. Make it hurt like hell but don't use lethal force.
Oh man they need to make a 12ga and 410 and get like 3 high power shots at 4500psi something like 400ftpouds at least
Check out the new umarex primal 20 gauge. Serious power quite deadly
is this aloud in canada?
@OfficialStee Defcon Paintball sell them and we think there Canada based
Is the 16 joule version legal in uj
Yes it is...comes in under the 12lbs limit for airguns
I soo want to buy this...
So can I buy one in the UK or not?
yes you can...moderncombatsports.co.uk/products/umarex-t4e-hdx-68-paintball-shotgun
@@ModernIntel Awesome thank you for that I'd almost forgotten about it too, I'll be ordering one this week.....👍👌👍
@@ModernIntel while I have your attention I have a couple of quick questions you may be able to answer thank you please! 😁
Do we know the max PSI these can take?
Is the only difference between the 7 and 16 the restrictor or is it just similar without one, (I want to push the psi so if the 16j is physically beefier in some way it decides for me, if that makes sense)?
Perfect for us that are Prohibited Possessor handicapped.
What specific act and section do you think prevents you using this for self defence in the UK (I am ex senior UK police officer who taught lessons to other officers in this area) .. it is legal to use a shotgun to defend your home in the UK under the right circumstances, you seem to believe the UK law lets you stab a burglar with a 12 inch razor sharp ceramic kitchen knife BUT you can`t shot him with a paintball gun .. again what act and section do you think prevents this gun being used?
FPS? Please.
It really depends on ammo weight...but with a normal weighted paintball (approx 2.8 Grams) 7J is about 220FPS . 11J - no data. 16J is around 320FPS
Dude, if you moved the US, I guarantee we will show you good gun times!
Do you sell the air guns with mods already installed? If not why not? Funding? Email meZ
Seems like we still have to wait for a solid paintball shotgun
Hi Bert439, power output will be easily fixed when some clever peron makes a HPA convertor for it....this doesn't suffer from poor quality like previous pump action paintball shotguns...
Have you heard of the cam MKII? It’s a paintball/airsoft marker.
@@pricelessppp yes we have - very unreliable, unless your using it as a paper weight
In Belgium we can have the 40 joules with no problem!
In Belgium you also have the best chips/Fries
@@ModernIntel yes sir best beers too ahah
@@IceBreaker.22 My a$$ you do. Best beer is found in Slovakia and Czech Republic. Then Germany and the UK. All you have is these sissy bears with tons of alcohol that people just sip outside pretending it is summer in August.
As for the fries, it's just normal overpriced fries drowned in Mayo or ketchup. I have had much better fries practically everywhere in the world.
In fact, Belgium is by far the most mundane and least special country I have ever been to. Some good architecture and nice spots, but that is pretty much it.
Am glad to have gotten the money though - that is all that it is good for: make a ton of money and leave.
@@kencur9690 oh boy you re right, my country is full of money grabbing monkeys.
how much does it cost to buy?€€
depends where you are in the world...US $300, EU 350-400 Euros, UK £400+
So... What are you allowed to use for home defense, if you're not allowed to use something like this?
Nothing. You are not allowed to defend yourself at all in the UK.
Call the cops and hope they arrive before you dead
By law nothing.
But if you just grabbed it not planned and to protect yourself you can fight the charge.
Just never ever say it was there for self defence use.
Ask your local filth station...I did, and in the home you can defend yourself within reason. Not sure about on the doorstep or chasing down the road is the same. Think about it, if they have a knife what you gonna do take it and say well the law says I cant use that home defence gun against an intruder, I'll just die. If you don't have a gun, get to the kitchen, f the bs laws. Think Tony Martin the farmer. He used a real gun.
You need the 40 joule version
only if i want to spend time in Jail
Home defense?
Blue Grotto not sure what your question is...please let us know
I guess you have to add more words for him to acknowledge the obvious question you got bruh…but It depends man, if you don’t have a firearm then hell yeah
But I would use steel balls. I wouldn’t care about the fps drop. I run 11mm steel balls in my tpm1 pistol and it run right thru thick liquor bottles at about 20 feet
@@humbledassholesent6661 guess he does bro ;)
May be I commented before , such a good video for info but none you ever do a grouping shoot. So we know it's not meant to be that accurate, but a gouping at 20 30 or 40 foot would be so helpful .... speaking based on the 16 Joule I can't believe no-one has done that. Very important for knowing what is in on your hand.
I just below 90 Joule!! That must be like 4 shots only!
If you're shooting someone at 20-40 feet in self defense, you're going to be arrested for assault with a weapon. Most of the time you'll be using it at 7-12 feet in a self defense scenario. Whether or not it can group a shot at 40 feet would be irrelevant.
I got 40J version upgraded with a valve from homedefence24 up to approx 70J. Measured by cheap and not very accurate chinese chronofraph. I my country there is no upper limit of nozle power still you register with acordance with the regulations. Tested with range of balls from ruber to steel. Best performance with aluminum 7.5 gr.
Lol just buy a high end Chinese chronograph, accurate and affordable.
40 joules in Belgium & Turkey
This is condered a paintball gun by the website
Just cannot see the point of this gun....its time manufacturers like Umarex etc ramped up their guns to each Countrys legal maximum...at that point sales will touch the Stratosphere.
Lee, they do....7.5 for countries like Germany 16J for the UK and others and something like 40J at the top end.
@@ModernIntel Yeah I understand that ...what I'm saying is most of their pistols are barely 2J....pistols are my plinkers choice but even them at just 2J are disappointing....thats why so many other plinkers ramp up their guns for better penetration /power levels....I collect the Umarex legends range.
For some reason the 40 Joules version for the US is going to be orange and black which is ridiculous. Apparently the other two versions for the US are going to be all black. Go figure. Thanks for the testing.
@@kurt9994 well that's false I live in the US and own 40j version thats black check your facts again
@@truth.tactical5580 That's interesting.
A Crossbow is better for home defence
You’re loading it wrong
you're very helpful
i have a question...? didn't u see he only used 2 12gram CO2 now that would make that 24 so he didn't say u can unscrew that and stick a 88gram co2 then that's a lot of deference
you cant unscrew and use a 88g on a 12g version.
@@ModernIntel so do you think the HDB t4e is better than that pump action
@@ModernIntel which one do you recommend
UK people using actual toys to defend their lives makes me genuinely sad
don't be sad....we're fairly safe in the UK
@@ModernIntel its brewing...
Will it shoot Gumballs?
40 joule for Texas....
Texas is wild!
You are wrong on UK law! The LAW states you must use REASONABLE FORCE under the BELIEF your force is reasonable!!!
we guess you must be right because you're using CAPS locks.
@@ModernIntel 🤣🤣🤣
These items have to have the same power as our utterly useless air rifles in Britain? Very disappointing. You're looking for a constant 100 joules minimum for true home defence weapons, so these markers don't cut it. Fun for paintball, though, they look good too.
We're in the UK...so pretty limited as to what we can use, loads of fun though.
@@ModernIntel Why we put up with that crap I'll never know. We, the public, literally have no genuine means of self-defence in this country as we see the ever-increasing criminal gangs roam around our streets carrying everything from machetes to unregistered firearms.
Wont stop a thug with a real gun lol
Most dont have real guns in the UK.
It could if you hit them several times it could be a deterrent. You can load pepper ball ammunition in it which I think if you hit them once or twice would be enough for them to drop. At which point you detain them until police arrive.
If the so called thug is trying to actually kill you yea but most people aren’t trying to get into a shootout let alone a murder charge I feel like anyone who just sees the shotgun might be deterred by the look of it
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OMFG😱!!! Is there ANYONE out there who can give us a TRUE evaluation of this gun?!?!
I am SO sick & tired of clicking to watch a video of someone who has USED the friggin' gun for not even a few weeks or months and KNOWS what he or she has paid for, other than hearing something like, "I JUST GOT THE BOX TODAY!, so let's see what we have here, shall we?!?"
Sheesh! I feel better noew.🙄 Don't get all 'iffy' on me, please folks. This is about the TWELTH video of UNBOXING the d@mn thing, know-what-I-mean bytterbean? lol
Oh_ and I DO like this channel. At least this provider usually provides some VERY useful information, so THANKS for that.
Sure Michael what do you wanna know? I own the 16j version and 40j version most these clowns on here are a bunch of used up wanks lol complaining about stupid stuff my 16j is worthless no just the user is worthless lol and inept here in the US we've already got the hdx 16j version with 2 mods and a firing pin swap to 40j on 2×12 gram that's 300fps with a 8gram grimburg Jul round I've seen up to 315 -320 fps with crb Canada riot balls they weigh 9.9 grams so no umarex did ot right just sad the ppl who have the most access to these can't figure it out the ones to get these released last to us in the US we figure all thr mods out hell ill sell you a brand new modded one still new in box never been shot just modified for 450 plus shipping its got the quick piercing c02 unlike 40j version this version is the ultimate home defense that's all the 40j with ninja shp reg and bottle no mods 65 joules out of box
lol in the united states it could be a 100 jules
and we could get away with it lol....
all these creeps over here mate.
The pump lol is slower compared to the non pump sawed off pistol grip. That model costs a whopping $250 + 12% tax in Canada. All replica style Air handguns are now permanently banned in CANADA.
As per C-21. Vote gang leader Trudeau out & his gang the R.C.M.P.
UK sucks for home defense
A quite pointless pb gun.
Why so Mark?
My God. This is trash. Not a paintball recommended paintball gun. I think it's kinda BS that it don't work out of the box without mods. A good paintball gun gotta shoot under 300 and over 260 out of the box if it doesn't have a Velocity adjuster
This isn't a "paintball gun" in the recreational sense. It's a CO2 powered gun that happens to be able to shoot paintball. Its marketed under their home defense line and in that sense it does work out of the box providing you get the right one for your country. That is the problem when recreational paintball reviewers gloss over that fact and players misunderstand its entire point. This is also why T4E products don't come with velocity adjustment.
@@lolzlolz69 Right. My chief complaint is companies like Modern Combat Sports sells these for "paintball" and it confuses everybody. 😕
I'm not against pneumatic guns etc. Just when they are advertised to paintballers to buy for paintball when it really isn't ideal.
U can buy it with a tank with 45j for a long time. In Austria there is no limit u could also go to 100j, but that’s murde, but u can also buy a rifle with 18.
In Austria there is no limit u could also go to 100j, How do you do that please?
I would not use that for home defense at all. You would just end up pissing the home invader off even more.
16 rounds to the face wil do more than piss him off he would shit himself the first bang. ;)
@@russellwalker3899 because impact rounds are always effective with law enforcement and they don’t ever need lethal backup…
@@TheShalomstead in UK approx less than 10% of police carry firearms so 90% have to use their training or call armed response in by radio. ????
@@russellwalker3899 you should check out “PoliceActivity” here on UA-cam. It’s a great example of the kind of crazy stuff that cops in America have to deal with. If they weren’t given the ability to adequately protect themselves, we wouldn’t have many willing cops at all.
Bullcrap, if you lots this up with either pepper/teargas balls OR solid steel projectiles, and just keep shooting. I bet you all my savings all the pissing whats going on is the piss coming through the extra bladder hole you shot. These steel balls are skull crackers. 40 joule is not a joke. I know you yanks prefer firearms, and rightly so. But European country's have their citizens turned into sitting ducks, with ever increasing crime rate, no protection by police (always turn up to late) and all the borders open for the barbarians to storm in. That's whats going on over here, controlled demolition of the countries, they didn't make 1 stupid mistake, not 2 or 3. Litteraly every step of the way, they "fuck up", in other words, it's policy to fuck up. Now I don't get to deep in the how and why about this, but I do know it is factual. The EU is imploding itself, and ofcourse theyr is an agenda, we will see.
Get a real shotgun 😂😅
I see no pricing- as long as its 29.99 everyone can have it if not pointless
pointless