eU | Samsora (Peach) vs. MVG | Salem (Hero) - Ultimate Grand Finals - TNS 8

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КОМЕНТАРІ • 341

  • @ThePenaboy2
    @ThePenaboy2 4 роки тому +1117

    Samsora: I used the rng to destroy the rng

  • @oofnoob6831
    @oofnoob6831 4 роки тому +725

    That bob-omb KO was hilarious tho.

    • @alansun3274
      @alansun3274 4 роки тому +12

      the bomb spiked. I didn't know it could do that

    • @adamkahmann2937
      @adamkahmann2937 4 роки тому +50

      It was actually poetic that Peach took out Hero, the RNG King with a bomb :P

    • @meeachael627
      @meeachael627 4 роки тому +3

      time stamp?

    • @oofnoob6831
      @oofnoob6831 4 роки тому +3

      meeachael
      14:21

    • @WampaStompa1996
      @WampaStompa1996 4 роки тому +2

      14:22

  • @TheMike0088
    @TheMike0088 4 роки тому +604

    As a Hero main, watching Salem play Hero is a win-win situation: If he wins, I can be happy that Hero won. If he loses, I can be happy that Salem lost.

    • @e-duh3529
      @e-duh3529 4 роки тому +71

      Optimal main choice

    • @TheKrake36
      @TheKrake36 4 роки тому +18

      What is the reason behind so many people disliking Salem? I only see him on MVG and he seems like a pretty decent guy there.

    • @e-duh3529
      @e-duh3529 4 роки тому +9

      @@TheKrake36 beef

    • @MrMhyun
      @MrMhyun 4 роки тому +34

      @@TheKrake36 he has the entire melee community as his enemy because of his tweets

    • @TheKrake36
      @TheKrake36 4 роки тому +4

      @@MrMhyun Ah okay, that explains it. People seem to often times really be different on twitter lol

  • @searingvortex4082
    @searingvortex4082 4 роки тому +527

    The bob-omb was the icing on the cake for this set

  • @Xerion1
    @Xerion1 4 роки тому +130

    Peach: "Oh we using RNG? Say no more."

    • @reymundoalvarez7743
      @reymundoalvarez7743 4 роки тому

      Davey Grimes Forgive my ignorance but what is RNG?

    • @Xerion1
      @Xerion1 4 роки тому +1

      @@reymundoalvarez7743 Random Number Generator. Imagine it like Game and Watch's "judgement". The system "randomly" generates a number, and each number is assigned an effect. Each time Peach presses down B, a number is generated by the system. If she gets the right number (which could be assigned any range depending on the odds they want to give the character) then she gets stitch or the bob-omb.
      Probability through RNG works like this: Game and Watch's Judgement (side b with hammer) is assigned 9 numbers, from 1-9. Each number is assigned a different effect. The odds of getting any number is 1/9, which is about 11%. So the probability of getting the most beneficial number, a 9 which usually results in a stock, is about 11%.
      Peach's RNG is even wider (meaning there's more numbers assigned with more effects), and the odds of getting the number assigned to the bob-omb is even lower as a result.

  • @ninjagaro.
    @ninjagaro. 4 роки тому +113

    Salem: opens menu
    Samsora: Shields

  • @NordicVigilante
    @NordicVigilante 4 роки тому +336

    Wow Salem is a scary ass Hero player, that's fun to watch

    • @dkbroman
      @dkbroman 4 роки тому +4

      The comment under this one didn't see yours

    • @kachosuffer7
      @kachosuffer7 4 роки тому +14

      uh... what's fun about running away and camping for spells?

    • @dkbroman
      @dkbroman 4 роки тому +10

      @@kachosuffer7 absolutely nothing
      I think he was approaching a lot though maybe I wasn't paying attention to Salem so much. But I believe you because Salem only plays the annoying campy characters

    • @BoeyJones
      @BoeyJones 4 роки тому +4

      As good as his hero is I can’t help but feel like he’s holding himself back by still maining this character

    • @OnizenArt
      @OnizenArt 4 роки тому +18

      @@kachosuffer7 That is how you play Hero. If you think you can play that character without heavily relying on spells, you're sorely mistaken. You will get bodied I promise.

  • @SlimReaper04
    @SlimReaper04 4 роки тому +430

    And no one is gonna mention how scary Salem’s Hero is? Jesus the first game lmao

    • @lapulga3180
      @lapulga3180 4 роки тому +49

      Exactly what I thought, a true inspiration for hero mains

    • @patrickhoppe4062
      @patrickhoppe4062 4 роки тому +8

      SlimReaper literally the comment under you which was posted earlier lmfao

    • @SlimReaper04
      @SlimReaper04 4 роки тому

      Patrick Hoppe yeah lmao. I didn’t know until after I posted my own comment

    • @B_Ill_E
      @B_Ill_E 4 роки тому +28

      i see the first match as samsora not understanding the matchup and the rest as a download complete.

    • @thelordoftheweebs9501
      @thelordoftheweebs9501 4 роки тому +5

      I don't see what's scary. But definitely the best hero I've seen. Also sam just doesn't know what to do. His download process is slower compared to leo.

  • @aIkaIi
    @aIkaIi 4 роки тому +69

    1:26 Audience: "Princess Peach! Princess Peach!"
    Hero: "Shing, Shing, Shing (3-hit jab)"

  • @IsaxAlpha
    @IsaxAlpha 4 роки тому +34

    Best ending ever, everybody laughing. Amazing never thought a lost match from a grand final tournament would cause a smile to everyone including the loser.

  • @moss7910
    @moss7910 4 роки тому +153

    Final stock was a taste of hero’s own medicine

  • @jackdias9263
    @jackdias9263 4 роки тому +144

    Killer Queen has already touched Salem’s last stock

    • @razielslaughter3332
      @razielslaughter3332 4 роки тому +5

      Jack Dias Best comment

    • @afromarco005
      @afromarco005 4 роки тому

      is that a jojo reference?

    • @Daemon4
      @Daemon4 4 роки тому

      is that a jojo reference?

    • @ZER0O9
      @ZER0O9 4 роки тому

      Nah peach chucked sheer heart attack at him at the end.

    • @ohiowrslr14
      @ohiowrslr14 4 роки тому +1

      @@ZER0O9 "Look over here"

  • @gregoriuskrisna12
    @gregoriuskrisna12 4 роки тому +25

    The ending was the most anime-like finisher ever

  • @maps2853
    @maps2853 4 роки тому +63

    "you live for the rng you die for the rng"

  • @ChaoticSonic400
    @ChaoticSonic400 4 роки тому +50

    Yo that ending was mad disrespectful... RNG gods all voted death on RNG the character.

  • @blossom2lit23
    @blossom2lit23 4 роки тому +71

    Super fun set. Salem’s hero is nutty.

  • @Support_Systemic
    @Support_Systemic 4 роки тому +47

    LMAO Hero got a taste of his own medicine at the end. What a great match between these two!!!

  • @seanthadon2321
    @seanthadon2321 4 роки тому +92

    Why is sam playing his secondary peach and not his main game and watch?

    • @unknownforever2198
      @unknownforever2198 4 роки тому

      I thought his secondary was Palu?

    • @yinn6258
      @yinn6258 4 роки тому

      I got u on that one

    • @catandgrouper4760
      @catandgrouper4760 4 роки тому

      Seanthadon23 what in gods name are you talking about? This a joke im not getting?

    • @unknownforever2198
      @unknownforever2198 4 роки тому +1

      @@catandgrouper4760 Have you watched samsora twitch videos sent on youtube.

    • @jalynchan3946
      @jalynchan3946 4 роки тому

      🤣🤣At least I get the reference

  • @Gameorama91
    @Gameorama91 4 роки тому +32

    "Same verse, second as the first" wanna give that another try my guy? Lol

  • @ElMedkit
    @ElMedkit 4 роки тому +27

    “I used RNG to destroy the RNG”

  • @NVS_Snake
    @NVS_Snake 4 роки тому +62

    Samsora is lucky Salem didn’t pick Mr.Game&Watch 😂

  • @Tselel
    @Tselel 4 роки тому +3

    This match is honestly a clinic on good spacing and perfectly using aerial drift from both sides.

  • @karniancommunitygaming
    @karniancommunitygaming 4 роки тому +7

    DAYUM! Salem's hero is on point and scary the first game. I love Samsora's adaptation!. GG to both players!

  • @jacobstalls1159
    @jacobstalls1159 4 роки тому +16

    Samsora is the true prophet of RNGesus

  • @FabioGbetanou
    @FabioGbetanou 4 роки тому +36

    2:17 in and i am losing my mind

    • @Sco6014
      @Sco6014 4 роки тому +4

      I gasped out loud at 2:25

  • @TheOneAndOnlyJell_O
    @TheOneAndOnlyJell_O 4 роки тому +5

    14:19 *Sheer Heart Attack*

  • @pendalink
    @pendalink 4 роки тому +11

    most satisfying end to a tournament ever

  • @acon9312
    @acon9312 4 роки тому +18

    Years of research couldn’t prepare him for this moment

    • @DevelonLP
      @DevelonLP 4 роки тому +2

      Because its ultimate there is no years of research..

  • @mastamelon
    @mastamelon 4 роки тому +18

    14:18 What an extremely coincidental way for a Grand Final to end off! Samsora be impressing Sakurai himself for the god-pull bomb-omb into 💥KO💥! Amazing set! 🤩

  • @HueNguyen-qk8ji
    @HueNguyen-qk8ji 4 роки тому +5

    Pause at 14:23 Peach be waking up and being like “what just happened?”

  • @LazyStarrfish
    @LazyStarrfish 4 роки тому +9

    Awesome to see Hero make a Grand Finals!

  • @Xerion1
    @Xerion1 4 роки тому +3

    Samsora dodging Magic Burst in game 2 was extremely impressive.
    After game 1 you could see how mad Samsora got. He played really aggressive after that game.

  • @YounesLayachi
    @YounesLayachi 4 роки тому +5

    Samsora adapted quickly and avoided grounded play, Salem didn't have a chance to change tactics

  • @brau_bj2060
    @brau_bj2060 4 роки тому

    5:05 WOW, Samsora´s air skills are always impressive! that recovery omg

  • @futurfry
    @futurfry 4 роки тому +1

    Legendary set. Love both these players so much

  • @DaRkLoRd-rc5yu
    @DaRkLoRd-rc5yu 4 роки тому +42

    A Bob-bomb to finish against mr rng. Too perfect.
    But for real tho I wanted salem to win.

    • @Panda__Man
      @Panda__Man 4 роки тому +3

      No Samsora is the best>

    • @kachosuffer7
      @kachosuffer7 4 роки тому +5

      imagine using rng to win. you didnt win, the game won for you.

    • @renren5992
      @renren5992 4 роки тому +2

      @@kachosuffer7 a win is a win

    • @TheBomberman122
      @TheBomberman122 4 роки тому

      @@kachosuffer7 that doesnt make any sense. What part is wrong? I didnt see a single hocus pocus, if you're talking about the menu you make it sound like a random spell gets chosen each time it comes up

    • @kachosuffer7
      @kachosuffer7 4 роки тому +1

      @@TheBomberman122 a random spell list you can choose from. in which, there are a lot of BS in that menu.

  • @trab33zzy
    @trab33zzy 4 роки тому +2

    14:23 it look like peach went for a and-1 3 pointer and made the shot while landind on her butt lol

  • @yehoshuas.6917
    @yehoshuas.6917 4 роки тому +1

    Bruh that Monarchy vs Hero bit was great. Good job commentators :D

  • @despa2336
    @despa2336 4 роки тому +13

    Imagine being the most rng dependent character, and you lose to good rng

  • @RaizaS94
    @RaizaS94 4 роки тому +4

    unless that is just the angle of the player cam: salem's eyes are wide open lol

  • @timtaylor1999
    @timtaylor1999 4 роки тому

    At 9:54 Salem knew it was over but that tech in 9:00 was incredible.

  • @osutinheizu8250
    @osutinheizu8250 4 роки тому

    1:43 how did Hero slide off the edge and go straight down like that? I saw the little star that signifies a quick fall, but I didn’t see him jump

    • @KaxMerg
      @KaxMerg 4 роки тому

      Salem just ran off of the stage and fast-fell as soon as he went off. every character in the game can run off of the ledge, but you might have some trouble if you usually walk with your characters. try it out in training mode to get some practice

  • @TyphonCH
    @TyphonCH 4 роки тому

    Any reason why Salem never charges up neutral B...? I understand the full charge uses a ton of mp and can be shielded fairly easily but even used as a mix up or charging it as a pressure tool is better than not using it at all

  • @angelofranco9748
    @angelofranco9748 4 роки тому +5

    In before the HD hits

  • @eligamerman
    @eligamerman 4 роки тому

    Really nice set from 2 amazing players!

  • @beeenjammmins
    @beeenjammmins 4 роки тому +64

    Samsora: Kills Hero with bob-om
    Everybody: omg i gotta make an RNG joke in the comments

    • @joyboy6752
      @joyboy6752 4 роки тому +5

      Congratulations, you played yourself.

    • @TheOnlyDTM
      @TheOnlyDTM 4 роки тому

      beenjammins ok boomer

    • @beeenjammmins
      @beeenjammmins 4 роки тому

      @@mathunit1 eyyy u got the joke

  • @DanielSVTwitch
    @DanielSVTwitch 4 роки тому

    How do you get smashville like that??

  • @darko-hexar
    @darko-hexar 4 роки тому

    Silly question, but who's the commentator that sounds like Etho?

  • @Doth_
    @Doth_ 4 роки тому

    Such a fun set. Samsoras flowchart is so fast. Unreal

  • @andrewmurphy8234
    @andrewmurphy8234 4 роки тому

    There is never a boring game with hero players they're fairly interesting to watch.

  • @angelofranco9748
    @angelofranco9748 4 роки тому +14

    Damn i wish i stopped watching after the first stock

  • @bonafye
    @bonafye 4 роки тому

    5:06 Big Brain by Samsora!!! 🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯

  • @PokeUrban
    @PokeUrban 4 роки тому

    The overkill bob omb at the end is just priceless
    Salem's Hero is hella scary but Samsora is out for BLOOD man

  • @moocowp4970
    @moocowp4970 4 роки тому +1

    Man Salem's Hero is crazy fun to watch, no idea how he reads that menu so fast. I do feel he goes a bit hard on his MP at the wrong times though sometimes, there was one time there where he actually ran out and got punished trying to throw out a Side B which failed due to low mana. Also i don't understand why he doesn't charge his neutral B when coming back from a death; there were a few times where Samsora was on like 50% and Salem respawned and immediately looked at menu, which isn't a bad option but 50% is kill percent for Kafrizz so i feel like charging that while invincible and throwing it out would have potentially evened up the stocks much easier. All that being said, i'm no where near at Salem's level, i'm sure he has his reasoning for not using Kafrizz at all.

    • @LarryNoir
      @LarryNoir 4 роки тому +2

      My guess is that Kafrizz comes out fairly slow and it's a big MP sink so he just decides to go without it. A player like Samsora will most likely be able to avoid it unless you pull it out during a combo.

  • @kevinguimond7711
    @kevinguimond7711 4 роки тому +4

    Great ending

  • @Forbidden_0ne
    @Forbidden_0ne 4 роки тому +10

    Click Click Ka-boom!

  • @truepotatoking7486
    @truepotatoking7486 4 роки тому

    Idk if I’m late
    But
    Is Salem still the most hated smasher?

  • @sharsasuke01
    @sharsasuke01 4 роки тому

    Why doesn't Salem use the charge fire spells?

  • @duedoo7650
    @duedoo7650 4 роки тому +11

    That ending.. 😌

  • @ryplecuk767
    @ryplecuk767 4 роки тому

    As a hero Main, Salem's lose wasn't a dissapointment, in fact, it was freakin' awesome that 3 stock and how he played soo good against Samsora's Peach.

  • @jannicwestrich1290
    @jannicwestrich1290 4 роки тому +2

    that ending was beautiful 😍

  • @pikashoe3809
    @pikashoe3809 4 роки тому

    Dang this was a tourney that had a bunch of pros at it?! I was planning on signing up for it but decided not to

  • @BadPredictions
    @BadPredictions 4 роки тому

    This whole game was heart stopping

  • @moniyawn
    @moniyawn 4 роки тому +1

    Samsora! Samsora! omg that end was amazing and hilarious!

  • @Sonicthehedgehog-do2bj
    @Sonicthehedgehog-do2bj 4 роки тому

    WHAT WAS THAT MENU MUSIC???

  • @MrMhyun
    @MrMhyun 4 роки тому +14

    ya gotta fight RNG with RNG(bob-omb)

  • @tonymartin8738
    @tonymartin8738 4 роки тому

    I love all smash brothers games. But nothing compares to Melee as far as a viewing experience

  • @AdalHRivera
    @AdalHRivera 4 роки тому

    Did the bomb spike Hero?

  • @dablaqgamer463
    @dablaqgamer463 4 роки тому

    My two favorites 🔥🔥🔥

  • @theyu-gi-schmuck6499
    @theyu-gi-schmuck6499 4 роки тому +3

    Sam got the bob-omb revenge for vinny let’s go

  • @Royal.D
    @Royal.D 4 роки тому

    He's so STRONG! INVINCIBLE!

  • @ElDrHouse2010
    @ElDrHouse2010 4 роки тому +1

    this vid is all the evidence one needs to make the claim that Hero is actually a really fucking deadly character.

  • @pollo20x6
    @pollo20x6 4 роки тому

    So they gon ban Cheapo Hero or was everyone crying like babies for no reason?

  • @ernestoocampo3718
    @ernestoocampo3718 4 роки тому +1

    Blackberry vs Blackberry

  • @YvngDef
    @YvngDef 4 роки тому

    Samsora's footsies in this set is IMMACULATE

  • @Aflay1
    @Aflay1 4 роки тому

    Salem looking good the first set.
    He should have stayed patient. Going in aggressive is what Peach wants you to do. What made him lose his composure?

    • @eagerinspirit
      @eagerinspirit 4 роки тому +1

      He got cocky probably. I think he got momentum and went it too hard for it.

  • @CodecMoment
    @CodecMoment 4 роки тому +7

    Was cheering for Salem the rest of the set after that phenomenal first game. I hope he doesn't drop this character! It's so fun to watch

  • @JB_CY
    @JB_CY 4 роки тому +1

    Inspirational

  • @SilencedSounds123
    @SilencedSounds123 3 роки тому +1

    Yes hero has more rng then any other fighter in the game, but it does take skill to do well with this character. It’s not just rolling the dice if you are going to win or not. The fighter has so much more then just complete random luck.

  • @JayKSilver
    @JayKSilver 4 роки тому

    That tournament stock was the most beautiful justice.

  • @1Yooter
    @1Yooter 4 роки тому +10

    It's impressive what Salem has accomplished with Hero.

  • @halbarroyzanty2931
    @halbarroyzanty2931 4 роки тому

    We are born from the rng, made men by the rng and undone from the rng. Fear the old rng

  • @ShallBePurified
    @ShallBePurified 4 роки тому

    There's something poetic about the RNG bomb pull killing the RNG character people complained about was unfair at release.

  • @monolithsmith
    @monolithsmith 4 роки тому

    You guys are awesome

  • @emomc9557
    @emomc9557 4 роки тому

    Adaptation is a big part of fighting games..you can get bodied in the first round and then totally change the tide in the run-back

  • @timekeeper6234
    @timekeeper6234 4 роки тому

    someone show that last stock to leffen

  • @tempurr
    @tempurr 4 роки тому +1

    no one talking about salem tweekin out in the player cam

  • @Kamer.Sounds
    @Kamer.Sounds 4 роки тому

    What an explosive finish

  • @nateridgley9805
    @nateridgley9805 4 роки тому

    Man, i cant think of a better ending for this set

  • @Hoozier_Dadeee
    @Hoozier_Dadeee 4 роки тому

    Samsora’s adapting game is incredible.

  • @shagunbhalla3914
    @shagunbhalla3914 4 роки тому

    What is this a b teir?

    • @MVGLeague
      @MVGLeague  4 роки тому

      There's a tournament tier system for competitive Super Smash Bros Ultimate scene run by PG Stats called the PGRU or Panda Global Rankings Ultimate. They do Melee too.

  • @OnizenArt
    @OnizenArt 4 роки тому

    Great match!

  • @Boostertz
    @Boostertz 4 роки тому

    I'd like to see Salem use Link again

  • @vuke6931
    @vuke6931 4 роки тому

    What a delicious final hit

  • @retierashia
    @retierashia 4 роки тому

    14:22 Look at Salem’s face LMAO

  • @goe5
    @goe5 4 роки тому

    That first match 🔥🔥🔥

  • @autumnbronze7
    @autumnbronze7 4 роки тому

    So good 👏🤩 loved the ending

  • @afromarco005
    @afromarco005 4 роки тому +1

    perfect ending. GG

  • @ElasticLove12
    @ElasticLove12 4 роки тому +1

    That ending was poetic

  • @michaelshipp4982
    @michaelshipp4982 4 роки тому

    like or hate hero you can't lie that first game was clean as hell