I cancelled my gym membership last year. Now this year my fitness regime has utterly collapsed. It basically involves me going to the gym five days a week and pushing against the barrier at reception and the girl at the desk repeating "sorry sir you are not a member". She just keeps repeating that and i keep pushing but nothing happens. I do that five days a week. Its utter madness. Like i voted for gym-exit, but i cant believe that means i cant use the gym. Like how was i supposed to see that coming? You would have to be an utter genius to see that coming.
You should have opted for the Boris oven ready gym membership where you pay nothing but receive all the benefits perhaps you should get Lord Frost to negotiate with the gym on your behalf .
@@chrisnewman7281 very true. Except Brexit, the mindset behind Brexit and a useless Tory government is more like trying to go for a brisk long walk whilst suffering with severe diarrhoea.
Your hardship is nothing compared to losing your home and business. You need to be grateful for what you've still got. *Some People Have Real Problems.*
A big thank you from Irish sheep farmers goes out to their English colleagues for Brexit. Things were tight, margins wafer thin and then came along all those Brexit benefits. Cheers.
@@joprocter4573 If Brexit has done just one thing then it is to demonstrate just how great the EU really is. Leave campaigns around Europe have collapsed and there is a queue of countries desperate to join up. Well done you little Englanders, you have made the EU great again.
This was always just so totally predictable, and yet many farmers voted for Brexit like turkeys voting for Christmas. Obviously coming out of the Common Agricultural Policy - which had protected our farmers from the world market for the last 40 years, and given them a market for their products, was going to be a disaster!
Not to mention fishermen opting to lose 600m potential customers on their doorstep with British consumers wanting to eat nothing but cod. Utter moronic madness. Where are all the Brexiteer fishermen sailing up and down outside Parliament now?
Not for the people that buy up and amalgamate farms, turn farmers into casual workers, mechanise and with the benefit of economies of scale, compete with bulk international producers. Its about profit not food.
Oh ! is that why the French burned our sheep ,refused other meat we tried exporting over many ,many years ,I am so glad that we were helped by our close friends & Allies ?. If I remember rightly we were selling and buying meat and other products from friendly countries around the world - even Argentina was a good customer . We joined the Common Market under a lie about freeing - up paperwork and borders while others countries in the club were cooking up communist ideas & schemes behind our back and making the whole thing a Lefty ideal and no longer a buying & selling cartel over mainland Europe . Another thing that can hardly be blamed on any British government since joining the E.U. was the treatment of our farmers AND our Fishermen ,before and after Brexit ,it was all a tissue of lies ,half facts and a touch of Blackmail . We only got some of our fishing grounds returned because the E.U. knew our boats would never sail that far to sell their catches and a lot of countries don"t eat some fish products ,that thrive in our fishing grounds ,but the French & Belgiums - do ! .
They said Brexit would be catastrophic but then came a pandemic, energy crisis and the Ukraine war and the UK isn’t even in a recession with recent figures showing experts were over £30bn out in their projections. Brexit has had very little impact. Also 2022 was one of the best years for sheep farmers going by UFU figures
I dare say, but the people like the residents of Clacton did too, and they do not seem to regret it. As I say, they wanted to be poorer and have fewer opportunities for their children.
Shouldn't really matter now. All of our politicians have let the country down (don't forget the pre-vote campaign featured cross-party Leave and Remain, then all of a sudden after the vote it became 'which side are you on' for each party rather than a cross-party Brexit taskforce. Yet here we are, still pointing fingers at each other shouting 'it's your fault'.......
Yep I live in Somerset and almost every field near a road had a huge 'Vote Leave' billboard in it for the run up to the advisory referendum. Hoist by one's own petard comes to mind, particularly those in my immediate area (North Somerset) that voted Moggy in.
This government has literally achieved nothing in 13 years. Is there one aspect of life in britain that isnt on it's knees? The nhs,GPs and dentistry....education......the police force and criminal justice system.....employment....farming.... Trade....the economy.... The army....transport..... Housing..... Immigration. 13 years and all are in worse shape as a result of the tories. Their policies have made them and their mates richer, to the detriment of the rest of us. No excuses can cover up for this. Shame on them!....They should never be allowed to forget the mess they have made of our country.
Everything is worse. Nothing has improved except the richest bank acccounts have grown but for everyone else everything is worse. You cant even go to a police station anymore ffs
The Murdoch family only throws it’s weight behind political policy that results in people suffering. This behaviour has been a constant for over 100 years and will continue for as long a people keep on supporting them.
Now that it is all going wrong Murdoch is fully aware that there will come a point where people in the UK that voted for Brexit will look for somebody to blame. They will look for those that lied to them and been the British way they will demand justice. Murdoch is aware that the justice they may seek is to stop buying and listening to his media just like the people of Liverpool have done over the Hillsborough disaster. If his sales start to fall then he will find it harder to sell advertising and so he is already beginning the process of trying to distance both of himself and his publications from Brexit. Son't forget he was die hard Tory until it began to become apparent that Labour under Blair was going to win the election then suddenly he switched in the hope of retaining access to power. As Murdoch has said "it's not about Red or Blue but Green."
DMcG, The EU is a Federal Project The European Union is not like any other international association. It differs from the Commonwealth, theG7, the United Nations, the IMF, and every other global body because it legislates for its members. Uniquely, the European Union is based on treaties-which don't just bind their signatories as states but- which create a new legal order with precedence over the national law of the member states. And that's what the argument has been about right from the start. If we could we take it as fact that if this was simply a free-trade area, if this was simply a club of nations, no one would have a problem with it ? You wouldn't be giving up your time to listen to me because nobody would be bothered about that. The problem with the European Union is not that it involves nearby countries coming together to arbitrate their disputes, to achieve collectively what they can't pursue singly. You'd have to be mad to be against that. The problem with it is that it has become remote, cut off from the people it purports to speak for, and corrupt. This is a problem because of the ambitions of the European Union itself. If it was simply a free-trade area, then no one would mind about the lack of democracy, no one would mind about the lack of accountability-nobody protests about the fact that we don't elect the people who run NATO or the IMF-but the European Union has long since moved beyond seeing itself as an international body or trading block. One by one it has acquired the attributes and trappings of statehood-a parliament, a president, a foreign minister, international representation on global bodies, treatymaking powers, a currency, a passport, a national anthem. You must be NUTS to say it is not a Federal Project
They didn't all vote for it, they were fed so many lies by so many bad actors, even to.the point of George Eustice calling the governments deals terrible
@@quillo2747. And now you're getting those same cheap imports from Australia, new Zealand and South America whilst at the same time curtailing your ability to sell into the EU, your biggest market....right on your doorstep. Well done.
Having lived in Britain (England) for some years, and having seen the atrociously ridiculous anti-European newspapers, and having heard the hate-filled, arrogant comments of English people for years, and having seen the countless "Vote Leave" on EVERY farmer's field in my area, I really enjoy seeing this. I think this is what the phrase/sad trombone sound "whomp whomp" was invented for. So long UK, we don't miss you at all!
@Vote4Penny Yes, of course, I wanted to see that. I enjoy being insulted daily and I invented all those decades of British tabloids well-established anti_European sentiment. Honestly, you need help. It is clearly YOU who does not want to believe anything bad about her own arrogant people. I can give you a 5,000 word essay, but 1. You won't believe it anyway and 2. I don't think I am in any way obligated to waste my time in that way. The fact that you respond like this is in itself evidence that you are arrogant.
@@sirrodneyffing1 Oh no, did I hurt your tender British feelings? Awww, you poor thing..... How about you just accept someone else's honest, sincere reaction, rather than immeditaely denying it? Oh that's right- because you can't accept that there is anything wrong with your country.
Friendly reminder than nearly half of us voted against Brexit to begin with. Yes, arrogance and racism is a big problem here, but it's not right to suggest we're all like that. In fact, if the EU wasn't so up on it's high horse things might've been different. Both sides made crucial mistakes.
But now we don't have to abide by those awful EU laws .... that no Brexiteer will actually ever name (because they were mainly concerned with protecting our rights, our health and our living standards), laws that got in the way of Jacob Rees-Mogg's investments.
@@yingyang1008 the eu isnt forcing Holland to close 3000 farms, the dutch government has decided it to be the solution for Holland to bring emissions down. But not to worry, when there is a food shortage, we can import genetically modified food from America which researchers claim produce less pollution . Like we now have to import american gas, for a price 9 times more expensive than what the russians sold us...
@@amossutandi The directive came from the EU - Ireland faces a similar situation, and we can assume that many more countries will also have to close thousands of farms I'm sure the US is delighted by such closures, so not sure what your point is Not sure if the result will be food short ages, but the EU will obviously be importing more food from abroad in the future
@@yingyang1008 again, they don't force holland to close farms to reduce emissions, holland choose to close farms instead of a different solution to reduce emissions.
@@richardsinger01 Yes. You are right. I am bitter. Sinds my alltime Brittish friends gave up on me, yust to feel better for themselfs, something knacked. Dont want to see any of you near to me. For a decade. You got an internal problem mate. FIX it. Get rid of Murdock.
Global Britain was always DOA SME's Farmers sole Traders etc. trade with the nearest country its called trade gravity or not at all and on average an economic recovery is 60% lead by these groups The cost of shipping has also gone up by over 600% in some cases and air freight has doubled over the last couple of years were fked without the single market our economy will just keep circling down the plug hole
it did, EU produce flooded our markets and crashed UK farm prices. Sheep were worthless here and baby calfs were shot because they didn't have a market.
@@jim-es8qk And now it's better? Empire was a big protection racket too back in the day, How soon they forget. And the Netherlands has high welfare standards and is the second exporter of agricultural produce in the world after the USA. Partley thanks to being in the EU.
@@corneliusantonius3108 yes, since we voted to leave farmers margins have increased. HUGELY. I use dairy farmers as an example, in 2016 farmers were paid 14p a litre. They are now being paid 50p.
@@corneliusantonius3108 Dutch farmers are not efficient. They have tiny farmers that only make money because they are hugely subsidied by the EU. Dutch farmers do not work. My money was paying for that.
Yes agree. No soon as the Farmers lost there Cheap Labour and they had to Pay a Proper Wage it had a Major impact. Life is not always all UPs gained by Paying Low Wages to maintain Profits.
@@charlesw852 Scotland voted to stay in the EU. Wasn't us that voted for Boris. We just want a vote on weather we want to make our own decisions not rule others like England and Russia.
The UK was right to vote to leave the EU, but it probably should have done so 10 plus years down the line. The EU in the long term is going to be in a major pickle given their populations are older than ours on average and many places still haven’t recovered from the Eurozone crisis. We’ve also seen massive brain drains from Eastern and Southern Europe to Western and Northern Europe as people, particularly younger people move for better lives. Those regions and countries are going to need hundreds of billions to prop them up, lest they become copies of Pripyat. You in the Netherlands will be okay, but not so sure about other places.
Farmers are fortunate, they get to eat and keep warm, and are Wealthy with Land. Many many Citizens and families won't have this benefit. Brexit nightmares for People start at the bottom and trickle upwards.
What did she vote for in 2016? I see someone from Ireland thanking her. I can understand him/her/it. So what did she vote for? The british fishermen all voted leave. Is there a british fish sector left? If she voted leave, she had it comming. If she didn't, she's an unfortunate victim of mass hysteria. But uk farms seem to need plenty of people now. She doesn't need to starve.
@@yingyang1008 i had to look into that. Not entirely true, but close enough. Indeed, many dutch farmers will be made to stop and loose their business. By the eu. For environmental reasons. Not because of their vote in a framed referendum. Their way of farming has been deemed too industrial. Too much polution. Too bad for dutch farmers. The eu also forces its members to treat their sewage, before releasing it into the seas...
@@au3264 It's highly controversial and it looks like many more farms around Europe will also be forced to close (Ireland has been given a bit longer before decisions will be made) I'm very skeptical about the true motives behind such change Either way - this is the kind of decision that people don't like having imposed on them by a faceless super state bureaucracy, rather than their own national parliament Comparing it with things like sewage levels and beach cleanliness is missing the point I think
@@yingyang1008 The farmers were asked to protect the environment and produce their goods in a sustainable way. They refused and was forced to stop farming.
Just to remind the Times that it published more pro-leave articles in 2016 and 2017 than pro-remain articles. So yes, Brexit has destroyed farming, fishing, and every aspect of the British economy. Staff shortages have damaged everything from tourism and hospitality to lorry drivers and NHS staff. Maybe if the Times had taken a definitive pro remain stance, then maybe remain would have won. Crying crocodile tears about how Brexit has damaged farming is utterly hypocritical.
UWE, The EU is a Federal Project The European Union is not like any other international association. It differs from the Commonwealth, theG7, theUnited Nations, the IMF, and every other global body because it legislates for its members. Uniquely, the European Union is based on treaties-which don't just bind their signatories as states but- which create a new legal order with precedence over the national law of the member states. And that's what the argument has been about right from the start. If we could we take it as fact that if this was simply a free-trade area, if this was simply a club of nations, no one would have a problem with it ? You wouldn't be giving up your time to listen to me because nobody would be bothered about that. The problem with the European Union is not that it involves nearby countries coming together to arbitrate their disputes, to achieve collectively what they can't pursue singly. You'd have to be mad to be against that. The problem with it is that it has become remote, cut off from the people it purports to speak for, and corrupt. This is a problem because of the ambitions of the European Union itself. If it was simply a free-trade area, then no one would mind about the lack of democracy, no one would mind about the lack of accountability-nobody protests about the fact that we don't elect the people who run NATO or the IMF-but the European Union has long since moved beyond seeing itself as an international body or trading block. One by one it has acquired the attributes and trappings of statehood-a parliament, a president, a foreign minister, international representation on global bodies, treatymaking powers, a currency, a passport, a national anthem. You must be NUTS to say it is not a Federal Project
@@chrislambert9435 Of course it's a federal project - just read the Solemn Declaration on European Union, which btw. was intensely supported by the UK. No problem with that for me, the USA developed to the form they have today after the worst war on the North American continent, and it took nearly 100 years to develop the constitution and the instruments of the organs of this constitution. EUrope is a peace project, and we have to develop our own future after centuries of war. Much of the rest of your post is just nonsense, not worth commenting. Try to control your hatred, it's not healthy
@@chrislambert9435 More or less, i'm pro deepening EUropean cooperation, a closer EU foreign policy and more. As it is not possible, we will never see a joint EU military, but a stronger cooperation here within NATO would be positive. A super State EUrope, yes. Right now we witness other regions of the world trying to copy the model.
Yep. Can’t speak for your country of course, but here the divide is mainly between the Anywhere’s and Somewhere’s. The former are very pro-globalism, generally liberal in outlook, more likely to be fine with higher levels of migration and to prioritise economic growth above everything else. The latter are more pro-nation and community, more likely to be socially conservative, want less migration into the country and want the pie to be shared more fairly, even if it means a hit to the wider economy. Unfortunately, our political, media and business class is dominated by the Anywhere’s so it’s hard for the Somewhere’s to get a word in.
All my support from France, I live in the middle of nowhere in the countryside and can relate to a lot said. I feel UK so far from us since Brexit, but people stay the same.
The government could have chosen to put British industry and farming first and made the supermarkets pay fair prices but don't want brexit to succeed. They'd much rather have Brussels as a scapegoat for anything they don't want to do. Instead supermarkets can pay pennies and make millions local councils can obstruct farmers as much as they want with no recourse beyond unaffordable complaints procedures.
Who could have predicted that shooting into the foot causes pain ??? WHO ???? Why did nobody warn the people that Fifel Garage is a bloody selfish LIAR !! ??????
BH, The EU is a Federal Project The European Union is not like any other international association. It differs from the Commonwealth, theG7, United Nations, the IMF, and every other global body because it legislates for its members. Uniquely, the European Union is based on treaties-which don't just bind their signatories as states but- which create a new legal order with precedence over the national law of the member states. And that's what the argument has been about right from the start. If we could we take it as fact that if this was simply a free-trade area, if this was simply a club of nations, no one would have a problem with it ? You wouldn't be giving up your time to listen to me because nobody would be bothered about that. The problem with the European Union is not that it involves nearby countries coming together to arbitrate their disputes, to achieve collectively what they can't pursue singly. You'd have to be mad to be against that. The problem with it is that it has become remote, cut off from the people it purports to speak for, and corrupt. This is a problem because of the ambitions of the European Union itself. If it was simply a free-trade area, then no one would mind about the lack of democracy, no one would mind about the lack of accountability-nobody protests about the fact that we don't elect the people who run NATO or the IMF-but the European Union has long since moved beyond seeing itself as an international body or trading block. One by one it has acquired the attributes and trappings of statehood-a parliament, a president, a foreign minister, international representation on global bodies, treatymaking powers, a currency, a passport, a national anthem. You must be NUTS to say it is not a Federal Project
@@chrislambert9435 thks yr answer Chris, the roots of the EU were trading rules which started between France and Germany ( Montanunion) .. after many years a lot of countries saw the advantages of having collective rules which can make each parties lifes easier.. so they joined ... after some more years the good results from this led to the creation of the EWG . More countries joined and more than steel was now on the agendy and was syncronized... that tokk many years and after this transition period even countries like the UK ( ok was also sent from the US side to clearely cheklc was the bloody Europeans were doing and keep them divided instead of being able to withstand anybody ) saw the advantages and Iron Maggie decided that it would be better ( moneywise !!) to be in it.. ofc Maggie never was of the opinion that anything has to be handed over to the EU but the block changed and more and more part of legilative went to the Eu parliament which was elected in the member states.. but.... I have to admit that once burocracy is created it will try to regulate everything and everybody.. that is a fact but is not only seen in the Eu but in all countries... ... and this resulted in , as you state correctly , in the intention of an even closer block . the main question is now : do we better in todays world as one big block - maybe even politicly - or as single state. If you are of the opinion to be a solo fighter than you have to abstain ... if you agree to a union that will march forward to probb a federal state ... time will show ...
Jim = So you never lived through the 70s and the winter of discontent ? My whole family were on strike for months ,my oldest brother & me in the local steelworks ,that had the biggest foundry in Europe ,9 months on strike - now Meadowhall shopping centre . And guess what it wasn"t the Tories in charge .
Alot of farmers will accuse Amanda Owen of snitching on the industry. But she's telling it like it is. She's telling those outside of farming, what the reality is for the UK farming industry post-Brexit. And some farmers apparently don't like this, because they've been so 'gaslit' by the Tories, and will now believe everything the Tories tell them. Fortunately Owen is cut from a different cloth, and is not only able to think critically, but able to see right through the Tories, their spin/lies, and the policies they've come up with. We need more farmers in the UK like her, and fewer farmers who continue to stick with the Tories. The reality for UK farming is stark, almost 'orwellian'. But too many Brits (particularly English people) have become so apathetic, that her message isn't hitting home for many in rural UK. STILL - after six and a half b****y years.
Rob, The EU is a Federal Project The European Union is not like any other international association. It differs from the Commonwealth, theG7, the United Nations, the IMF, and every other global body because it legislates for its members. Uniquely, the European Union is based on treaties-which don't just bind their signatories as states but- which create a new legal order with precedence over the national law of the member states. And that's what the argument has been about right from the start. If we could we take it as fact that if this was simply a free-trade area, if this was simply a club of nations, no one would have a problem with it ? You wouldn't be giving up your time to listen to me because nobody would be bothered about that. The problem with the European Union is not that it involves nearby countries coming together to arbitrate their disputes, to achieve collectively what they can't pursue singly. You'd have to be mad to be against that. The problem with it is that it has become remote, cut off from the people it purports to speak for, and corrupt. This is a problem because of the ambitions of the European Union itself. If it was simply a free-trade area, then no one would mind about the lack of democracy, no one would mind about the lack of accountability-nobody protests about the fact that we don't elect the people who run NATO or the IMF-but the European Union has long since moved beyond seeing itself as an international body or trading block. One by one it has acquired the attributes and trappings of statehood-a parliament, a president, a foreign minister, international representation on global bodies, treatymaking powers, a currency, a passport, a national anthem. You must be NUTS to say it is not a Federal Project
@@chrislambert9435 ....we will always be better off in the EU than out of it. That's a fact! You've seen how this country has declined markedly since 2016 (and no, much of it is not down to Covid - it's down to Brexit). Brexit has destroyed the UK Farming, and Fishing industries - because no one will buy our goods/produce now. The ludicrous amount of red tape has rendered this virtually impossible, and more trouble than it's worth - for other European countries. The EU is a real union rather than an uncoordinated ramshackle 'collective' which the Commonwealth is now. What does it (the Commonwealth) really mean? Are there really any shared values or is this just a myth? ...a myth that Elizabeth II made possible but which now is showing cracks. Do other countries in it really share our belief that it is just a loose 'benign' collective? Or is there still an undercurrent of Colonialism lurking under the surface which we (the UK) cannot see? I hate to say it, but we actually have more in common (culturally and in the values we hold dear) with other countries in the EU, than we do with small Atlantic, and Pacific Island nations. We actually have more in common with the Germans and French, than we do with Indians, and South Africans. So your great long speal about how evil the EU is, is totally misplaced. Shame you didn't use paragraphs. It would have been alot easier to read. As it was, I gave up half way through it. Bombarded by ignorance and misinformation no doubt gained from reading the Daily Mail or something equally awful.
The reality for UK farming is we are doing much better now we aren't being undercut by cheap meat from places like Poland and Spain who have far lower costs and far worse animal welfare. Some bad moves like the Australia deal are separate issues. Brexit and the incompetent government we've had since brexit are 2 different problems
Check out the market appetite for local foods straight from the farm. We have a lot of services like that in Finland. Get a couple different types of farmers in a co-op, a website and either home delivery or a pick-up point in the nearby cities. Just remember to offer small enough cuts of meat or even pre-diced meats and a variety of veg. Maybe even combine it with food recipes, maybe get a local chef to help...and your children to put leaflets through the doors in upper-middle class housing areas... In fact, we have these weekly box of food programmes that sell to busy families and include all the incredients and recipies for five dinners a week that are either tailored for families with children or to more adult tastes.
Frank, The EU is a Federal Project The European Union is not like any other international association. It differs from the Commonwealth, theG7, the United Nations, the IMF, and every other global body because it legislates for its members. Uniquely, the European Union is based on treaties-which don't just bind their signatories as states but- which create a new legal order with precedence over the national law of the member states. And that's what the argument has been about right from the start. If we could we take it as fact that if this was simply a free-trade area, if this was simply a club of nations, no one would have a problem with it ? You wouldn't be giving up your time to listen to me because nobody would be bothered about that. The problem with the European Union is not that it involves nearby countries coming together to arbitrate their disputes, to achieve collectively what they can't pursue singly. You'd have to be mad to be against that. The problem with it is that it has become remote, cut off from the people it purports to speak for, and corrupt. This is a problem because of the ambitions of the European Union itself. If it was simply a free-trade area, then no one would mind about the lack of democracy, no one would mind about the lack of accountability-nobody protests about the fact that we don't elect the people who run NATO or the IMF-but the European Union has long since moved beyond seeing itself as an international body or trading block. One by one it has acquired the attributes and trappings of statehood-a parliament, a president, a foreign minister, international representation on global bodies, treatymaking powers, a currency, a passport, a national anthem. You must be NUTS to say it is not a Federal Project
It's great to have someone like amanda on t.v and radio she's a good talker and understands very well the farming way of life. you are so right about people wanting everything from farmers and the countryside it's difficult to see where it will all leed to in the future. but i do think the government will have to subsidise food production at some stage. the EU brought in subsidys for food production decades ago so that there would be a plentiful supply of cheap food for everyone, i don't see how things have changed theres 65+ million people to feed in this country everyday..... it takes a lot of food
@@Traitorman..Proverbs26.11 EU was also the only thing keeping them alive; british fishermen didn't catch anything the British eat, and the British basically only eat Cod. Besides, the common fisheries policy basically exists because British trawlers almost drove cod into extinction while fishing illegally into other countries waters. To hear them now crying like children over the consequences of their own crimes is frankly hilarious.
Brexit where to start with my anger for this self harm brought upon us , didn’t want it and it will bring us to our knees it cant work we are an island next to a huge trading block we have cut off!
@@kevinallsop1628 Dropped down the memory hole already..... Maybe when Ireland faces a similar situation in a few months time people might start taking notice
The truth is that in order to trade”freely “ with them we had to: put up with them flying their horrid flag all over our country. We had to allow them access to our fishing grounds. We had to give up deciding our own agricultural and immigration policies. We couldn’t decide our levels of taxation for ourselves. We had to bow to the superiority of EU courts. We had to risk future compulsory adoption of the €. An EU army. Loss of our parliament in favour of EU governance (let’s face it they weren’t left with much to decide on our behalf). Bring back a common market, without the need for political control. I might even vote to rejoin this free trade zone myself!
Well, they can also then demand access to the EU again, march to the NFU, and demand absolute and unfettered access to the Single Market. A change of heart is always welcome.
The decision to leave was a mis-representation of the Electorate. 17.2M voted to LEAVE, 16.1M to REMAIN, ( 11.1M did not vote, DNV). On every Referendum before BREXIT there was 1 choice not 2 and the choice that wanted the change from the existing status had to produce a favorable majority vote of over 66%. This was not the case with BREXIT polling less than 40% to LEAVE. The Tories used this cynical marketing choice to ignore the effect of the DNV as they usually don't vote for changes. So there it is ... deception from the start, with the TORIES running both campaigns claiming victory of those who did vote with a marginal win of 51%. Requiring less than 634,500 votes to change side for a draw. A referendum of TORY deceit in both the method and the detail which are known shown to be pack of LIES.
I don't understand this, sheep prices have never been so good, we have never sold so much to France, it's a shame fertilizer prices and fuel are also up, but you cant have it all you way!
I hated the rules at the golf club so I left. Now they won't let me play on the greens! Why? Don't they know I'm English? Why are all the other golf club members laughing at me?
John, The EU is a Federal Project The European Union is not like any other international association. It differs from the Commonwealth, theG7, the United Nations, the IMF, and every other global body because it legislates for its members. Uniquely, the European Union is based on treaties-which don't just bind their signatories as states but- which create a new legal order with precedence over the national law of the member states. And that's what the argument has been about right from the start. If we could we take it as fact that if this was simply a free-trade area, if this was simply a club of nations, no one would have a problem with it ? You wouldn't be giving up your time to listen to me because nobody would be bothered about that. The problem with the European Union is not that it involves nearby countries coming together to arbitrate their disputes, to achieve collectively what they can't pursue singly. You'd have to be mad to be against that. The problem with it is that it has become remote, cut off from the people it purports to speak for, and corrupt. This is a problem because of the ambitions of the European Union itself. If it was simply a free-trade area, then no one would mind about the lack of democracy, no one would mind about the lack of accountability-nobody protests about the fact that we don't elect the people who run NATO or the IMF-but the European Union has long since moved beyond seeing itself as an international body or trading block. One by one it has acquired the attributes and trappings of statehood-a parliament, a president, a foreign minister, international representation on global bodies, treatymaking powers, a currency, a passport, a national anthem. You must be NUTS to say it is not a Federal Project
And who also voted for Brexit because they thought the Landowners would be handing over millions of pounds to them? Who was it never once mentioned any other industry and how Brexit would impact them? Did the fishing industry once mention farmers or vice versa? Yeah, that’s why Britain is becoming a freeport tax haven.
Lysander, The EU is a Federal Project The European Union is not like any other international association. It differs from the Commonwealth, theG7, theUnited Nations, the IMF, and every other global body because it legislates for its members. Uniquely, the European Union is based on treaties-which don't just bind their signatories as states but- which create a new legal order with precedence over the national law of the member states. And that's what the argument has been about right from the start. If we could we take it as fact that if this was simply a free-trade area, if this was simply a club of nations, no one would have a problem with it ? You wouldn't be giving up your time to listen to me because nobody would be bothered about that. The problem with the European Union is not that it involves nearby countries coming together to arbitrate their disputes, to achieve collectively what they can't pursue singly. You'd have to be mad to be against that. The problem with it is that it has become remote, cut off from the people it purports to speak for, and corrupt. This is a problem because of the ambitions of the European Union itself. If it was simply a free-trade area, then no one would mind about the lack of democracy, no one would mind about the lack of accountability-nobody protests about the fact that we don't elect the people who run NATO or the IMF-but the European Union has long since moved beyond seeing itself as an international body or trading block. One by one it has acquired the attributes and trappings of statehood-a parliament, a president, a foreign minister, international representation on global bodies, treatymaking powers, a currency, a passport, a national anthem. You must be NUTS to say it is not a Federal Project
Global Britain was always DOA SME's Farmers sole Traders etc. trade with the nearest country its called trade gravity or not at all and on average an economic recovery is 60% lead by these groups The cost of shipping has also gone up by over 600% in some cases and air freight has doubled over the last couple of years were fked without the single market our economy will just keep circling down the plug hole
@@paull373 I guess you haven't noticed? Great power politics are back in fashion: national security is now definitely more important than trade policy, which will be shaped in function of how it makes the state stronger. Liberal internationalism failed. So yeah, losing continental trade is not really the problem you might think.
I'm Canadian and the Commonwealth is in the dustbin. We only hear about it on the rare occasion a royal visits. The Aus. and NZ trade deals were not good for the UK. As for a U.S. deal, I don't know what the UK has to offer now that it does not have a voice in the EU. Maybe for New York to take over some of London's financial services. The American's are ruthless negotiators and will open the UK market to GMO foods and to follow their food, safety, and product standards. It's increasing tough now-a-days not being part of a large trading bloc (NAFTA, EU, China, ASEAN, etc.)
The kids are going to be her gift to the Labour party ,many more voters to vote Socialists in for many years to come and if she"s lucky Starmer will re - instate child benefits ?.
I cancelled my gym membership last year. Now this year my fitness regime has utterly collapsed. It basically involves me going to the gym five days a week and pushing against the barrier at reception and the girl at the desk repeating "sorry sir you are not a member". She just keeps repeating that and i keep pushing but nothing happens. I do that five days a week. Its utter madness. Like i voted for gym-exit, but i cant believe that means i cant use the gym. Like how was i supposed to see that coming? You would have to be an utter genius to see that coming.
Try a, brisk walking it’s free and excellent for bone health and if you can fit in a few decent hills, good for your cardiovascular
Brilliant!!!
You should have opted for the Boris oven ready gym membership where you pay nothing but receive all the benefits perhaps you should get Lord Frost to negotiate with the gym on your behalf .
@@chrisnewman7281 very true. Except Brexit, the mindset behind Brexit and a useless Tory government is more like trying to go for a brisk long walk whilst suffering with severe diarrhoea.
Your hardship is nothing compared to losing your home and business. You need to be grateful for what you've still got. *Some People Have Real Problems.*
A big thank you from Irish sheep farmers goes out to their English colleagues for Brexit. Things were tight, margins wafer thin and then came along all those Brexit benefits. Cheers.
Sheep farmers as far afield as New Zealand are grateful for Brexit. Own goals are allowed. Not clever, but allowed.
🤣👏
Enjoy irexit on its way
@@joprocter4573 If Brexit has done just one thing then it is to demonstrate just how great the EU really is. Leave campaigns around Europe have collapsed and there is a queue of countries desperate to join up. Well done you little Englanders, you have made the EU great again.
@@knightsnight5929 deluded
This was always just so totally predictable, and yet many farmers voted for Brexit like turkeys voting for Christmas. Obviously coming out of the Common Agricultural Policy - which had protected our farmers from the world market for the last 40 years, and given them a market for their products, was going to be a disaster!
Not to mention fishermen opting to lose 600m potential customers on their doorstep with British consumers wanting to eat nothing but cod. Utter moronic madness. Where are all the Brexiteer fishermen sailing up and down outside Parliament now?
Not for the people that buy up and amalgamate farms, turn farmers into casual workers, mechanise and with the benefit of economies of scale, compete with bulk international producers. Its about profit not food.
@@ianworley8169 job centre
@@julianshepherd2038 exactly, it's about big business and money - it was never about way was best for normal people.
Oh ! is that why the French burned our sheep ,refused other meat we tried exporting over many ,many years ,I am so glad that we were helped by our close friends & Allies ?. If I remember rightly we were selling and buying meat and other products from friendly countries around the world - even Argentina was a good customer . We joined the Common Market under a lie about freeing - up paperwork and borders while others countries in the club were cooking up communist ideas & schemes behind our back and making the whole thing a Lefty ideal and no longer a buying & selling cartel over mainland Europe . Another thing that can hardly be blamed on any British government since joining the E.U. was the treatment of our farmers AND our Fishermen ,before and after Brexit ,it was all a tissue of lies ,half facts and a touch of Blackmail . We only got some of our fishing grounds returned because the E.U. knew our boats would never sail that far to sell their catches and a lot of countries don"t eat some fish products ,that thrive in our fishing grounds ,but the French & Belgiums - do ! .
I thought that was "Project Fear" and we shouldn't listen to experts.
Maybe we didn't die enough, no matter how morbid the thought.
They said Brexit would be catastrophic but then came a pandemic, energy crisis and the Ukraine war and the UK isn’t even in a recession with recent figures showing experts were over £30bn out in their projections. Brexit has had very little impact. Also 2022 was one of the best years for sheep farmers going by UFU figures
Yeah but, the majority of the farming community voted for brexit.
Same with the fishing industry
I dare say, but the people like the residents of Clacton did too, and they do not seem to regret it. As I say, they wanted to be poorer and have fewer opportunities for their children.
2 questions that the interviewer didn’t ask was: 1. did you vote leave? 2. did you vote Conservative?
That was agreed before they went live.
Probably yes to both.
Shouldn't really matter now. All of our politicians have let the country down (don't forget the pre-vote campaign featured cross-party Leave and Remain, then all of a sudden after the vote it became 'which side are you on' for each party rather than a cross-party Brexit taskforce. Yet here we are, still pointing fingers at each other shouting 'it's your fault'.......
I hate fake interviews
Pretty sure farmers were one of the groups that voted most heavily in favour of Brexit
Reaping what they sow. A reference they should understand
Yep I live in Somerset and almost every field near a road had a huge 'Vote Leave' billboard in it for the run up to the advisory referendum. Hoist by one's own petard comes to mind, particularly those in my immediate area (North Somerset) that voted Moggy in.
These are the sacrifices, you’ll have to make to keep fabulously wealthy people happy in their tax havens in the Cayman Islands.
When politicians lie with impunity, they are not doing it for our benefit, but for their own.
But people still believe it
@@robertlee6338 Yes
In democratic countries you ultimately get the politicians and the political outcomes you deserve. Blame yourselves.
But people will still agree to it if its their guy who is lying. Idiots
This government has literally achieved nothing in 13 years. Is there one aspect of life in britain that isnt on it's knees? The nhs,GPs and dentistry....education......the police force and criminal justice system.....employment....farming.... Trade....the economy.... The army....transport..... Housing..... Immigration. 13 years and all are in worse shape as a result of the tories. Their policies have made them and their mates richer, to the detriment of the rest of us. No excuses can cover up for this. Shame on them!....They should never be allowed to forget the mess they have made of our country.
Everything is worse. Nothing has improved except the richest bank acccounts have grown but for everyone else everything is worse. You cant even go to a police station anymore ffs
I'm amazed The Times have covered this subject after Murdoch campaigned for Brexit and got it despite the political parties not wanting it.
Deep down in his heart, Murdoch is Australian! 🦘🇦🇺
Why? Murdoch and Tories win... Turds on the beach for us...
Ive just watched this and I know how much it was misleading & deceptive, thats why we voted for Brexit no matter what this media outlet propagates
The Murdoch family only throws it’s weight behind political policy that results in people suffering. This behaviour has been a constant for over 100 years and will continue for as long a people keep on supporting them.
Now that it is all going wrong Murdoch is fully aware that there will come a point where people in the UK that voted for Brexit will look for somebody to blame. They will look for those that lied to them and been the British way they will demand justice. Murdoch is aware that the justice they may seek is to stop buying and listening to his media just like the people of Liverpool have done over the Hillsborough disaster. If his sales start to fall then he will find it harder to sell advertising and so he is already beginning the process of trying to distance both of himself and his publications from Brexit. Son't forget he was die hard Tory until it began to become apparent that Labour under Blair was going to win the election then suddenly he switched in the hope of retaining access to power.
As Murdoch has said "it's not about Red or Blue but Green."
The majority of farmers voted for this. I find it hard to have any sympathy
Brexiteers: EU is a protection racket, we want out!
EU: "yeaaah, if you got something worth protecting you put a fence around it??"
Empire was a big protection racket too back in the day, How soon they forget.
DMcG, The EU is a Federal Project
The European Union is not like any other international
association. It differs from the Commonwealth, theG7, the United
Nations, the IMF, and every other global body because it legislates
for its members. Uniquely, the European Union is based on
treaties-which don't just bind their signatories as states but-
which create a new legal order with precedence over the national
law of the member states. And that's what the argument has been
about right from the start. If we could we take it as fact that if this was
simply a free-trade area, if this was simply a club of nations, no one
would have a problem with it ? You wouldn't be giving up your
time to listen to me because nobody would be bothered about that.
The problem with the European Union is not that it involves
nearby countries coming together to arbitrate their disputes, to
achieve collectively what they can't pursue singly. You'd have to be
mad to be against that. The problem with it is that it has become
remote, cut off from the people it purports to speak for, and
corrupt.
This is a problem because of the ambitions of the European Union itself.
If it was simply a free-trade area, then no one would mind about
the lack of democracy, no one would mind about the lack of
accountability-nobody protests about the fact that we don't elect
the people who run NATO or the IMF-but the European Union
has long since moved beyond seeing itself as an international body
or trading block. One by one it has acquired the attributes and
trappings of statehood-a parliament, a president, a foreign
minister, international representation on global bodies, treatymaking powers, a currency, a passport, a national anthem. You must be NUTS to say it is not a Federal Project
Do not feel sorry for farmers and Fishermans they all voted for Brexit
They didn't all vote for it, they were fed so many lies by so many bad actors, even to.the point of George Eustice calling the governments deals terrible
yes, milk prices were 14p in 2016 before the vote. Since the vote farmers are now being paid 50p a litre.
@@jim-es8qk hello inflation
@@jim-es8qk
But what does it cost them to produce that litre of milk? Compared to before Brexit
All those farmers who voted for Brexit... like Turkey's voting for Christmas
We've heard that before
None the less a very accurate saying.
I'm a farmer, I voted for brexit.
We simply couldn't compete with dirt cheap EU imports from countries with a fraction if the costs and regulations.
😂😂😂
@@quillo2747. And now you're getting those same cheap imports from Australia, new Zealand and South America whilst at the same time curtailing your ability to sell into the EU, your biggest market....right on your doorstep. Well done.
Having lived in Britain (England) for some years, and having seen the atrociously ridiculous anti-European newspapers, and having heard the hate-filled, arrogant comments of English people for years, and having seen the countless "Vote Leave" on EVERY farmer's field in my area, I really enjoy seeing this. I think this is what the phrase/sad trombone sound "whomp whomp" was invented for.
So long UK, we don't miss you at all!
Don't hold your breath.
@Vote4Penny I agree. Its was a very nasty and agenda filled comment.
@Vote4Penny Yes, of course, I wanted to see that. I enjoy being insulted daily and I invented all those decades of British tabloids well-established anti_European sentiment.
Honestly, you need help. It is clearly YOU who does not want to believe anything bad about her own arrogant people. I can give you a 5,000 word essay, but 1. You won't believe it anyway and 2. I don't think I am in any way obligated to waste my time in that way.
The fact that you respond like this is in itself evidence that you are arrogant.
@@sirrodneyffing1 Oh no, did I hurt your tender British feelings? Awww, you poor thing..... How about you just accept someone else's honest, sincere reaction, rather than immeditaely denying it?
Oh that's right- because you can't accept that there is anything wrong with your country.
Friendly reminder than nearly half of us voted against Brexit to begin with. Yes, arrogance and racism is a big problem here, but it's not right to suggest we're all like that. In fact, if the EU wasn't so up on it's high horse things might've been different. Both sides made crucial mistakes.
But now we don't have to abide by those awful EU laws .... that no Brexiteer will actually ever name (because they were mainly concerned with protecting our rights, our health and our living standards), laws that got in the way of Jacob Rees-Mogg's investments.
The laws that forced the Netherlands to close 3,000 farms?
@@yingyang1008 the eu isnt forcing Holland to close 3000 farms, the dutch government has decided it to be the solution for Holland to bring emissions down. But not to worry, when there is a food shortage, we can import genetically modified food from America which researchers claim produce less pollution . Like we now have to import american gas, for a price 9 times more expensive than what the russians sold us...
@@amossutandi The directive came from the EU - Ireland faces a similar situation, and we can assume that many more countries will also have to close thousands of farms
I'm sure the US is delighted by such closures, so not sure what your point is
Not sure if the result will be food short
ages, but the EU will obviously be importing more food from abroad in the future
@@yingyang1008 again, they don't force holland to close farms to reduce emissions, holland choose to close farms instead of a different solution to reduce emissions.
@@amossutandi So, if a new pro-farmer Dutch government was elected, they could reverse the decision?
That's not the impression I have at all
Feel no pitty. At all. You got what you voted for.
You are a bitter uncharitable person. Just remember only 51% voted for this mess. The turnout was 72% which for me invalidated the vote.
@@richardsinger01 Yes. You are right. I am bitter. Sinds my alltime Brittish friends gave up on me, yust to feel better for themselfs, something knacked. Dont want to see any of you near to me. For a decade. You got an internal problem mate. FIX it. Get rid of Murdock.
Truth. Thank you Amanda. Farming is the only business where you buy everything at retail and sell everything at wholesale. Greetings from Canada.
needs like FRANCE a farmers only bank like BANK Agriculture
Thank you for voting Brexit!!!
Wait.
YOU WERE TOLD!😀
But did she vote leave, probably yes like the majority of farmers . Working out well for farming isn’t it.
This lady is a breath of fresh air, a power house of creativity. Bless her hard working willing faithful heart!
💯
Yeah, those 4.5 hours a day and 8 week vacations must be brutal.
Global Britain was always DOA
SME's Farmers sole Traders etc. trade with the nearest country its called trade gravity or not at all and on average an economic recovery is 60% lead by these groups
The cost of shipping has also gone up by over 600% in some cases and air freight has doubled over the last couple of years were fked without the single market our economy will just keep circling down the plug hole
You mean shipping your produce half way around the world is worst than shipping it across a small channel, and the produce is much fresher to boot..
Empire was a big protection racket too back in the day, How soon they forget.
And how many voted to Leave?
I thought the EU destroyed British agricultural? I can’t keep up with who’s flipping and flopping. A scorecard needed!
Tories are like Ruzzians, laying waste to the land wherever they go.
it did, EU produce flooded our markets and crashed UK farm prices. Sheep were worthless here and baby calfs were shot because they didn't have a market.
@@jim-es8qk And now it's better? Empire was a big protection racket too back in the day, How soon they forget. And the Netherlands has high welfare standards and is the second exporter of agricultural produce in the world after the USA. Partley thanks to being in the EU.
@@corneliusantonius3108 yes, since we voted to leave farmers margins have increased. HUGELY. I use dairy farmers as an example, in 2016 farmers were paid 14p a litre. They are now being paid 50p.
@@corneliusantonius3108 Dutch farmers are not efficient. They have tiny farmers that only make money because they are hugely subsidied by the EU. Dutch farmers do not work. My money was paying for that.
Johnson destroyed my country.
The amount of sheer hard work and endurance Amanda Owen puts in would leave most people exhausted on the first day. Respect.
All 5 hours a day? 🙄
I don't understand how raising trade barriers between ourselves and our customers can be bad for business. Oh wait... I see it now.
Yes agree. No soon as the Farmers lost there Cheap Labour and they had to Pay a Proper Wage it had a Major impact. Life is not always all UPs gained by Paying Low Wages to maintain Profits.
All the farmers we know voted for Brexit. They got what they voted for.
It's the nationalism that chokes itself..🤷♂️
Could be worse look at Russia
@@mikedon5205 Or Scotland.
@@charlesw852 Scotland voted to stay in the EU. Wasn't us that voted for Boris.
We just want a vote on weather we want to make our own decisions not rule others like England and Russia.
So, Ukrainian nationalism OK, but British nationalists are xenophobic Nazi's or something?
Brexit was a bad idea
Farmers supported Brexit, don't feel sorry for them. Brexiters keep losing.
We need new government to rebuild UK economy
Three years after Brexit, the British are still waiting for the benefits of Brexit.
greetings from the Netherlands
The UK was right to vote to leave the EU, but it probably should have done so 10 plus years down the line. The EU in the long term is going to be in a major pickle given their populations are older than ours on average and many places still haven’t recovered from the Eurozone crisis. We’ve also seen massive brain drains from Eastern and Southern Europe to Western and Northern Europe as people, particularly younger people move for better lives. Those regions and countries are going to need hundreds of billions to prop them up, lest they become copies of Pripyat. You in the Netherlands will be okay, but not so sure about other places.
There are no two ways about Clarkson: you either despise him or you loathe him.
Farmers are fortunate, they get to eat and keep warm, and are Wealthy with Land.
Many many Citizens and families won't have this benefit.
Brexit nightmares for People start at the bottom and trickle upwards.
Shame on every single Brexit voter, you want stringing up.
Thats right blame Brexit voters typical Tory .
What did she vote for in 2016? I see someone from Ireland thanking her. I can understand him/her/it. So what did she vote for? The british fishermen all voted leave. Is there a british fish sector left? If she voted leave, she had it comming. If she didn't, she's an unfortunate victim of mass hysteria. But uk farms seem to need plenty of people now. She doesn't need to starve.
The EU just closed 3,000 farms in the Netherlands - and that's just the start
@@yingyang1008 i had to look into that. Not entirely true, but close enough. Indeed, many dutch farmers will be made to stop and loose their business. By the eu. For environmental reasons. Not because of their vote in a framed referendum. Their way of farming has been deemed too industrial. Too much polution. Too bad for dutch farmers. The eu also forces its members to treat their sewage, before releasing it into the seas...
@@au3264 It's highly controversial and it looks like many more farms around Europe will also be forced to close (Ireland has been given a bit longer before decisions will be made)
I'm very skeptical about the true motives behind such change
Either way - this is the kind of decision that people don't like having imposed on them by a faceless super state bureaucracy, rather than their own national parliament
Comparing it with things like sewage levels and beach cleanliness is missing the point I think
@@yingyang1008
The farmers were asked to protect the environment and produce their goods in a sustainable way.
They refused and was forced to stop farming.
@@Traitorman..Proverbs26.11 so the dutch government isn't free to use it's veto after all, interesting
Ireland is facing a similar process I see
The farmers voted for this.
Just to remind the Times that it published more pro-leave articles in 2016 and 2017 than pro-remain articles. So yes, Brexit has destroyed farming, fishing, and every aspect of the British economy. Staff shortages have damaged everything from tourism and hospitality to lorry drivers and NHS staff. Maybe if the Times had taken a definitive pro remain stance, then maybe remain would have won. Crying crocodile tears about how Brexit has damaged farming is utterly hypocritical.
A charming, strong woman! All the best for her and her family, and one part of it would be to get rid of the Tory government ASAP!
Farmers in England vote Tory. They voted for Brexit as well. I have no sympathy for them.
UWE, The EU is a Federal Project
The European Union is not like any other international
association. It differs from the Commonwealth, theG7, theUnited
Nations, the IMF, and every other global body because it legislates
for its members. Uniquely, the European Union is based on
treaties-which don't just bind their signatories as states but-
which create a new legal order with precedence over the national
law of the member states. And that's what the argument has been
about right from the start. If we could we take it as fact that if this was
simply a free-trade area, if this was simply a club of nations, no one
would have a problem with it ? You wouldn't be giving up your
time to listen to me because nobody would be bothered about that.
The problem with the European Union is not that it involves
nearby countries coming together to arbitrate their disputes, to
achieve collectively what they can't pursue singly. You'd have to be
mad to be against that. The problem with it is that it has become
remote, cut off from the people it purports to speak for, and
corrupt.
This is a problem because of the ambitions of the European Union itself.
If it was simply a free-trade area, then no one would mind about
the lack of democracy, no one would mind about the lack of
accountability-nobody protests about the fact that we don't elect
the people who run NATO or the IMF-but the European Union
has long since moved beyond seeing itself as an international body
or trading block. One by one it has acquired the attributes and
trappings of statehood-a parliament, a president, a foreign
minister, international representation on global bodies, treatymaking powers, a currency, a passport, a national anthem. You must be NUTS to say it is not a Federal Project
@@chrislambert9435 Of course it's a federal project - just read the Solemn Declaration on European Union, which btw. was intensely supported by the UK.
No problem with that for me, the USA developed to the form they have today after the worst war on the North American continent, and it took nearly 100 years to develop the constitution and the instruments of the organs of this constitution.
EUrope is a peace project, and we have to develop our own future after centuries of war.
Much of the rest of your post is just nonsense, not worth commenting. Try to control your hatred, it's not healthy
@@uweinhamburg You've essentially declared that you are pro a Federal State a "super state"
@@chrislambert9435 More or less, i'm pro deepening EUropean cooperation, a closer EU foreign policy and more.
As it is not possible, we will never see a joint EU military, but a stronger cooperation here within NATO would be positive.
A super State EUrope, yes. Right now we witness other regions of the world trying to copy the model.
Nine kids! Isn't there a law against it.
Iam sure there isn't a European law on how many kids to have .
Did Brexit bring back control? The dumbest question in this interview after will you benefit from levelling up funds
Total respect for the insight into your world amanda !
What I detect is that people prefer money to being able to hold politicians to account. And I say this as a citizen of an eu country
Yep. Can’t speak for your country of course, but here the divide is mainly between the Anywhere’s and Somewhere’s. The former are very pro-globalism, generally liberal in outlook, more likely to be fine with higher levels of migration and to prioritise economic growth above everything else. The latter are more pro-nation and community, more likely to be socially conservative, want less migration into the country and want the pie to be shared more fairly, even if it means a hit to the wider economy. Unfortunately, our political, media and business class is dominated by the Anywhere’s so it’s hard for the Somewhere’s to get a word in.
Who (by and large) voted for BREXIT ? The Farmers & the Fishermen wasn't it ?
Wonderful articulate interview.
All my support from France, I live in the middle of nowhere in the countryside and can relate to a lot said. I feel UK so far from us since Brexit, but people stay the same.
Why do u support brexiteers?
@@manuelfg2902, no I don’t.
@@rosenfeld68 they have what they deserve
Well spoken woman, farm girls look more healthier, beautiful and strong.
You voted for it, you own the responsibility.
Food prices increased weekly
Someone is making a killing
The government could have chosen to put British industry and farming first and made the supermarkets pay fair prices but don't want brexit to succeed. They'd much rather have Brussels as a scapegoat for anything they don't want to do. Instead supermarkets can pay pennies and make millions local councils can obstruct farmers as much as they want with no recourse beyond unaffordable complaints procedures.
Or, ear me out, they don't have the power to do so as it could result in another competitive advantage for EU products....
Interesting interview.
Reverse brexit
Impossible.
Too late you voted the Eu respect your democratic decision the EU has moved on no so should you.
Great for the environment having 9 children
So you're against immigration?
Who could have predicted that shooting into the foot causes pain ??? WHO ???? Why did nobody warn the people that Fifel Garage is a bloody selfish LIAR !! ??????
BH, The EU is a Federal Project
The European Union is not like any other international
association. It differs from the Commonwealth, theG7, United Nations, the IMF, and every other global body because it legislates
for its members. Uniquely, the European Union is based on
treaties-which don't just bind their signatories as states but-
which create a new legal order with precedence over the national
law of the member states. And that's what the argument has been
about right from the start. If we could we take it as fact that if this was
simply a free-trade area, if this was simply a club of nations, no one
would have a problem with it ? You wouldn't be giving up your
time to listen to me because nobody would be bothered about that.
The problem with the European Union is not that it involves
nearby countries coming together to arbitrate their disputes, to
achieve collectively what they can't pursue singly. You'd have to be
mad to be against that. The problem with it is that it has become
remote, cut off from the people it purports to speak for, and
corrupt.
This is a problem because of the ambitions of the European Union itself.
If it was simply a free-trade area, then no one would mind about
the lack of democracy, no one would mind about the lack of
accountability-nobody protests about the fact that we don't elect
the people who run NATO or the IMF-but the European Union
has long since moved beyond seeing itself as an international body
or trading block. One by one it has acquired the attributes and
trappings of statehood-a parliament, a president, a foreign
minister, international representation on global bodies, treatymaking powers, a currency, a passport, a national anthem. You must be NUTS to say it is not a Federal Project
@@chrislambert9435 thks yr answer Chris,
the roots of the EU were trading rules which started between France and Germany ( Montanunion) ..
after many years a lot of countries saw the advantages of having collective rules which can make each parties lifes easier.. so they joined ...
after some more years the good results from this led to the creation of the EWG .
More countries joined and more than steel was now on the agendy and was syncronized...
that tokk many years and after this transition period even countries like the UK ( ok was also sent from the US side to clearely cheklc was the bloody Europeans were doing and keep them divided instead of being able to withstand anybody ) saw the advantages and Iron Maggie decided that it would be better ( moneywise !!) to be in it..
ofc Maggie never was of the opinion that anything has to be handed over to the EU but the block changed
and more and more part of legilative went to the Eu parliament which was elected in the member states..
but.... I have to admit that once burocracy is created it will try to regulate everything and everybody..
that is a fact but is not only seen in the Eu but in all countries...
... and this resulted in , as you state correctly , in the intention of an even closer block .
the main question is now : do we better in todays world as one big block - maybe even politicly - or as single state.
If you are of the opinion to be a solo fighter than you have to abstain ...
if you agree to a union that will march forward to probb a federal state ...
time will show ...
@@bh5037 Thankyou for your contribution
The EU is/was a blackmail project
@@bh5037 The EU is/was a blackmail project
Worst Government in living memory
Jim = So you never lived through the 70s and the winter of discontent ? My whole family were on strike for months ,my oldest brother & me in the local steelworks ,that had the biggest foundry in Europe ,9 months on strike - now Meadowhall shopping centre . And guess what it wasn"t the Tories in charge .
Alot of farmers will accuse Amanda Owen of snitching on the industry. But she's telling it like it is. She's telling those outside of farming, what the reality is for the UK farming industry post-Brexit. And some farmers apparently don't like this, because they've been so 'gaslit' by the Tories, and will now believe everything the Tories tell them.
Fortunately Owen is cut from a different cloth, and is not only able to think critically, but able to see right through the Tories, their spin/lies, and the policies they've come up with.
We need more farmers in the UK like her, and fewer farmers who continue to stick with the Tories.
The reality for UK farming is stark, almost 'orwellian'. But too many Brits (particularly English people) have become so apathetic, that her message isn't hitting home for many in rural UK. STILL - after six and a half b****y years.
Rob, The EU is a Federal Project
The European Union is not like any other international
association. It differs from the Commonwealth, theG7, the United
Nations, the IMF, and every other global body because it legislates
for its members. Uniquely, the European Union is based on
treaties-which don't just bind their signatories as states but-
which create a new legal order with precedence over the national
law of the member states. And that's what the argument has been
about right from the start. If we could we take it as fact that if this was
simply a free-trade area, if this was simply a club of nations, no one
would have a problem with it ? You wouldn't be giving up your
time to listen to me because nobody would be bothered about that.
The problem with the European Union is not that it involves
nearby countries coming together to arbitrate their disputes, to
achieve collectively what they can't pursue singly. You'd have to be
mad to be against that. The problem with it is that it has become
remote, cut off from the people it purports to speak for, and
corrupt.
This is a problem because of the ambitions of the European Union itself.
If it was simply a free-trade area, then no one would mind about
the lack of democracy, no one would mind about the lack of
accountability-nobody protests about the fact that we don't elect
the people who run NATO or the IMF-but the European Union
has long since moved beyond seeing itself as an international body
or trading block. One by one it has acquired the attributes and
trappings of statehood-a parliament, a president, a foreign
minister, international representation on global bodies, treatymaking powers, a currency, a passport, a national anthem. You must be NUTS to say it is not a Federal Project
@@chrislambert9435 ....we will always be better off in the EU than out of it. That's a fact!
You've seen how this country has declined markedly since 2016 (and no, much of it is not down to Covid - it's down to Brexit).
Brexit has destroyed the UK Farming, and Fishing industries - because no one will buy our goods/produce now. The ludicrous amount of red tape has rendered this virtually impossible, and more trouble than it's worth - for other European countries.
The EU is a real union rather than an uncoordinated ramshackle 'collective' which the Commonwealth is now. What does it (the Commonwealth) really mean? Are there really any shared values or is this just a myth? ...a myth that Elizabeth II made possible but which now is showing cracks.
Do other countries in it really share our belief that it is just a loose 'benign' collective? Or is there still an undercurrent of Colonialism lurking under the surface which we (the UK) cannot see?
I hate to say it, but we actually have more in common (culturally and in the values we hold dear) with other countries in the EU, than we do with small Atlantic, and Pacific Island nations. We actually have more in common with the Germans and French, than we do with Indians, and South Africans.
So your great long speal about how evil the EU is, is totally misplaced. Shame you didn't use paragraphs. It would have been alot easier to read.
As it was, I gave up half way through it. Bombarded by ignorance and misinformation no doubt gained from reading the Daily Mail or something equally awful.
The reality for UK farming is we are doing much better now we aren't being undercut by cheap meat from places like Poland and Spain who have far lower costs and far worse animal welfare.
Some bad moves like the Australia deal are separate issues. Brexit and the incompetent government we've had since brexit are 2 different problems
Check out the market appetite for local foods straight from the farm. We have a lot of services like that in Finland.
Get a couple different types of farmers in a co-op, a website and either home delivery or a pick-up point in the nearby cities. Just remember to offer small enough cuts of meat or even pre-diced meats and a variety of veg.
Maybe even combine it with food recipes, maybe get a local chef to help...and your children to put leaflets through the doors in upper-middle class housing areas... In fact, we have these weekly box of food programmes that sell to busy families and include all the incredients and recipies for five dinners a week that are either tailored for families with children or to more adult tastes.
thats far too sensible for britain😂
Lots of farmers in North Oxfordshire had Vote Leave billboards up in 2016. You reap what you sow. Tough. 😂
Frank, The EU is a Federal Project
The European Union is not like any other international
association. It differs from the Commonwealth, theG7, the United
Nations, the IMF, and every other global body because it legislates
for its members. Uniquely, the European Union is based on
treaties-which don't just bind their signatories as states but-
which create a new legal order with precedence over the national
law of the member states. And that's what the argument has been
about right from the start. If we could we take it as fact that if this was
simply a free-trade area, if this was simply a club of nations, no one
would have a problem with it ? You wouldn't be giving up your
time to listen to me because nobody would be bothered about that.
The problem with the European Union is not that it involves
nearby countries coming together to arbitrate their disputes, to
achieve collectively what they can't pursue singly. You'd have to be
mad to be against that. The problem with it is that it has become
remote, cut off from the people it purports to speak for, and
corrupt.
This is a problem because of the ambitions of the European Union itself.
If it was simply a free-trade area, then no one would mind about
the lack of democracy, no one would mind about the lack of
accountability-nobody protests about the fact that we don't elect
the people who run NATO or the IMF-but the European Union
has long since moved beyond seeing itself as an international body
or trading block. One by one it has acquired the attributes and
trappings of statehood-a parliament, a president, a foreign
minister, international representation on global bodies, treatymaking powers, a currency, a passport, a national anthem. You must be NUTS to say it is not a Federal Project
It's great to have someone like amanda on t.v and radio she's a good talker and understands very well the farming way of life. you are so right about people wanting everything from farmers and the countryside it's difficult to see where it will all leed to in the future. but i do think the government will have to subsidise food production at some stage. the EU brought in subsidys for food production decades ago so that there would be a plentiful supply of cheap food for everyone, i don't see how things have changed theres 65+ million people to feed in this country everyday..... it takes a lot of food
YOU,and your taxes are already giving them £2.4 billion ! They even get subsidies for cutting their hedges.
But, but, immergrints!
Joining the EU also destroyed the fishing industry and destroyed many coastal towns. What is good for the goose is not always good for the gander.
Are you referring to the fishing licence system? Where a large number of Sottish license holders sold them to Spanish fishermen?
@@Traitorman..Proverbs26.11 EU was also the only thing keeping them alive; british fishermen didn't catch anything the British eat, and the British basically only eat Cod. Besides, the common fisheries policy basically exists because British trawlers almost drove cod into extinction while fishing illegally into other countries waters. To hear them now crying like children over the consequences of their own crimes is frankly hilarious.
Destroying the country, not a person left to pick the food even if you could afford to grow it.
Its a question of being able to afford; a/Growing it b/ harvesting it c/ trans porting it for retailing it
If they are so unhappy about Brexit move to Europe
Easy as that 😂😂
Absolutely, I welcome as European union loyalist, every Brit, who want to move to freedom.
What a woman. Woman power! Amazing.
Sorry, farmers voted Brexit overall. You should have done your research.
Maybe she needs to go on GB news and slap some sense into farage..
I see he's now angry all the talented young people are leaving the UK in droves... Wonder why that is, Nige? 🤔
@@alex_n8863 Oh he just blames the torries and moves on.
Brexit where to start with my anger for this self harm brought upon us , didn’t want it and it will bring us to our knees it cant work we are an island next to a huge trading block we have cut off!
Love how you use Brexit as a way to cover up the mess the Tories got us in , its a cheap shot.
Time to rejoin the EU.
That is not possible and never will be. From Ireland.
Hopefully not were doing fine without you moaning and circus antics you made your bed now lie in it ( also from Ireland )
@@markhodge3112 Thanks for your comment.
@@raymonddixon7603 Thanks for your comment.
Membership fee will be £20-£30 billion per year.
So that's a ''NO'' from the UK.
Second in stupidity to the Fisherman
UK need general election inmigatly
I can't imagine that on this new programme, she let's any body else get a word in edge ways!
Did the EU not just force the Netherlands to close 3,000 farms?
Keep quiet about that one.......................
@@kevinallsop1628 Dropped down the memory hole already.....
Maybe when Ireland faces a similar situation in a few months time people might start taking notice
The truth is that in order to trade”freely “ with them we had to: put up with them flying their horrid flag all over our country. We had to allow them access to our fishing grounds. We had to give up deciding our own agricultural and immigration policies. We couldn’t decide our levels of taxation for ourselves. We had to bow to the superiority of EU courts. We had to risk future compulsory adoption of the €. An EU army. Loss of our parliament in favour of EU governance (let’s face it they weren’t left with much to decide on our behalf).
Bring back a common market, without the need for political control. I might even vote to rejoin this free trade zone myself!
This is ironic wasn't it rural areas who supported brexit the most.
Set aside payments were a payment for doing nothing.. The E£U now ar4e trying to close down 8000 farms in Holland and Belgium and Germany.
What they hate now is that they have to work now not be paid to leave their farms empty.
Well, they can also then demand access to the EU again, march to the NFU, and demand absolute and unfettered access to the Single Market. A change of heart is always welcome.
Here in Poland there was no any Polexit done, but our farm are dramatically degraded due to EU regulations...
Once upon a time Australia and New Zealand imported pommy cars, 4WD’s, tractors, trucks, motorcycles. Now to balance the trade ledger Britain exports…
Not pointing out while being in the EU it destroyed the UK agricultural market.
The decision to leave was a mis-representation of the Electorate. 17.2M voted to LEAVE, 16.1M to REMAIN, ( 11.1M did not vote, DNV).
On every Referendum before BREXIT there was 1 choice not 2 and the choice that wanted the change from the existing status had to produce a favorable majority vote of over 66%.
This was not the case with BREXIT polling less than 40% to LEAVE. The Tories used this cynical marketing choice to ignore the effect of the DNV as they usually don't vote for changes. So there it is ... deception from the start, with the TORIES running both campaigns claiming victory of those who did vote with a marginal win of 51%.
Requiring less than 634,500 votes to change side for a draw. A referendum of TORY deceit in both the method and the detail which are known shown to be pack of LIES.
I don't understand this, sheep prices have never been so good, we have never sold so much to France, it's a shame fertilizer prices and fuel are also up, but you cant have it all you way!
the majority of farmers voted for brexit, schadenfreude is horrible.
What would it take to get this wonderful woman in Parliament? She would do better than 99% of the idiots warming the benches there.
Nonsense,the Tory party failed to carry out brexit to the letter,therefore we’ve a watered down version.
Sheep prices have never been as good.
Will this brexit never end ,bloody he'll meanwhile the limey is in the coconut.
I hated the rules at the golf club so I left. Now they won't let me play on the greens! Why? Don't they know I'm English? Why are all the other golf club members laughing at me?
Who had follow boris the ripper with his red bus full of about 300millions pounds???
I thought it was funny when the interviewer tried to get a bite at Clarkson it backfired in her face 😂 She moved on so quick 😂
Just how much more needs to be explained till brexit supporters see the true picture of the damage they have created. Rejoin
We haven't left yet.
@@kevinallsop1628 course we have left, why don’t you think we haven’t???
@@JohnSmith-bx8zb We have got Brino. The MP's keep stopping any legislation which would permanently separate us from the EU.
@@kevinallsop1628 like what?
John, The EU is a Federal Project
The European Union is not like any other international
association. It differs from the Commonwealth, theG7, the United
Nations, the IMF, and every other global body because it legislates
for its members. Uniquely, the European Union is based on
treaties-which don't just bind their signatories as states but-
which create a new legal order with precedence over the national
law of the member states. And that's what the argument has been
about right from the start. If we could we take it as fact that if this was
simply a free-trade area, if this was simply a club of nations, no one
would have a problem with it ? You wouldn't be giving up your
time to listen to me because nobody would be bothered about that.
The problem with the European Union is not that it involves
nearby countries coming together to arbitrate their disputes, to
achieve collectively what they can't pursue singly. You'd have to be
mad to be against that. The problem with it is that it has become
remote, cut off from the people it purports to speak for, and
corrupt.
This is a problem because of the ambitions of the European Union itself.
If it was simply a free-trade area, then no one would mind about
the lack of democracy, no one would mind about the lack of
accountability-nobody protests about the fact that we don't elect
the people who run NATO or the IMF-but the European Union
has long since moved beyond seeing itself as an international body
or trading block. One by one it has acquired the attributes and
trappings of statehood-a parliament, a president, a foreign
minister, international representation on global bodies, treatymaking powers, a currency, a passport, a national anthem. You must be NUTS to say it is not a Federal Project
And who also voted for Brexit because they thought the Landowners would be handing over millions of pounds to them? Who was it never once mentioned any other industry and how Brexit would impact them? Did the fishing industry once mention farmers or vice versa? Yeah, that’s why Britain is becoming a freeport tax haven.
Lysander,
The EU is a Federal Project
The European Union is not like any other international
association. It differs from the Commonwealth, theG7, theUnited
Nations, the IMF, and every other global body because it legislates
for its members. Uniquely, the European Union is based on
treaties-which don't just bind their signatories as states but-
which create a new legal order with precedence over the national
law of the member states. And that's what the argument has been
about right from the start. If we could we take it as fact that if this was
simply a free-trade area, if this was simply a club of nations, no one
would have a problem with it ? You wouldn't be giving up your
time to listen to me because nobody would be bothered about that.
The problem with the European Union is not that it involves
nearby countries coming together to arbitrate their disputes, to
achieve collectively what they can't pursue singly. You'd have to be
mad to be against that. The problem with it is that it has become
remote, cut off from the people it purports to speak for, and
corrupt.
This is a problem because of the ambitions of the European Union itself.
If it was simply a free-trade area, then no one would mind about
the lack of democracy, no one would mind about the lack of
accountability-nobody protests about the fact that we don't elect
the people who run NATO or the IMF-but the European Union
has long since moved beyond seeing itself as an international body
or trading block. One by one it has acquired the attributes and
trappings of statehood-a parliament, a president, a foreign
minister, international representation on global bodies, treatymaking powers, a currency, a passport, a national anthem. You must be NUTS to say it is not a Federal Project
The EU response to Brexit is the problem. Not Brexit itself.
Nah it’s a bunch of clueless morons who were told something and they 100% ate it up! 😂
Just remind me, did the farming community vote for Brexit?
Yes I thought they did.
When is whom going to hold the brexit movement leaders accountable? Farrage, Johnson and the rest of this doubtful bunch.
I guess that means you'll just have to negotiate lots of bilateral free trade treaties with all the other anglophone countries, huh.
Welcome back!
You should probably look up the 'gravity model of trade' so you understand how that isn't going to help.
Global Britain was always DOA
SME's Farmers sole Traders etc. trade with the nearest country its called trade gravity or not at all and on average an economic recovery is 60% lead by these groups
The cost of shipping has also gone up by over 600% in some cases and air freight has doubled over the last couple of years were fked without the single market our economy will just keep circling down the plug hole
LOL
@@paull373 I guess you haven't noticed?
Great power politics are back in fashion: national security is now definitely more important than trade policy, which will be shaped in function of how it makes the state stronger. Liberal internationalism failed. So yeah, losing continental trade is not really the problem you might think.
I'm Canadian and the Commonwealth is in the dustbin. We only hear about it on the rare occasion a royal visits. The Aus. and NZ trade deals were not good for the UK. As for a U.S. deal, I don't know what the UK has to offer now that it does not have a voice in the EU. Maybe for New York to take over some of London's financial services. The American's are ruthless negotiators and will open the UK market to GMO foods and to follow their food, safety, and product standards. It's increasing tough now-a-days not being part of a large trading bloc (NAFTA, EU, China, ASEAN, etc.)
So, have Clive and Amanda split up? The interviewer refers to "her then husband Clive".
9 kids. That’s environmentally friendly.
The kids are going to be her gift to the Labour party ,many more voters to vote Socialists in for many years to come and if she"s lucky Starmer will re - instate child benefits ?.
Thats what I said. Maybe it's to replace the EU workers that once were 😂
Yeah, the EU really care about farming - just look at the Dutch farming protests.