I used to understand that logic until i happened to pull him and the amount of games he's essentially vanilla stats or unplayable is legit mindboggling lol. I guess maybe it would be too much randomness at such high value at 5 cost, but at this point I think i'd be willing to try it.
My fix for Hulkling would be that it copies the ability AND the power of a random 6 Cost, but gains 2+ power on top of that. So a Spectrum Hulking would be 6/9, Giganto would be 6/16, Doom would be 6/7 ect
@@Funky_Player2in my opinion, that just basically kinda nerfing his other copies, like an arnim zola, the spectrum and the doom you mentioned and 2 power is not much worth it. i was thinking that if they try to do like when you draw the card, you choose between 3 six cost cards to copy the ability. but i think im hoping too much haha
Yeah, being a random 6 cost card doesn’t really make sense, just play the 6 cost card in your deck. No reason to play hulkling since hes just a random 6
Regis, you’re killing me! You have Electro and Destroyer in hand, and Bar Sinister mid! Why wouldn’t you go for the +4 Energy play? That’s a no-brainer every single time 😅 7:48
I can tell you've never had my luck. I get Cosmo'd every time. They play Scarlet Witch into Wakanda. They Armor them.The list goes on. (also I didn't see it)
@@RegisKillbinoh pal you just made me laugh so hard I think I GENUINELY passed out reading this comment. Please never change buddy, LOVE seeing your videos any time theres an upload.
Im not sure if this aligns with their design philosophy, but they could change hulkling to read something like "each turn this is in your hand swap the text to a random 6 cost card. You can active in hand to keep its text" This allows for less variance and to choose game state a little better
Regis, as both the founding and singular member of the Emperor Hulkling in SNAP Appreciation Society (EHSAS), I must request on behalf of the organisation that you rescind any and all of your claims declaring him to be anything short of perfect. Such statements are hateful and harmful to Emperor Hulking’s image as the best card in Marvel SNAP. We expect nothing less than a public apology on your choice of social media platform. We also hope to see the deletion of this video within 24 hours as an act of good will or legal action WILL be pursued.
man, big bads are always the most unique decks i see in terms of composition. so minmaxxed that there are SEVEN 6+ cost cards!! what a logistical nightmare
Maybe Hulking should say, At the start of the Game, gain the text of a random 6 cost card, in you or your opponents Deck. Something that cuts down on randomness, with a chance to be worse based on your opponents deck. Or hell go all in, every turn Emperor hulkling is in your hand, gain another effect of a 6 cost minion, or a different one if you wnat some more choice.
He'd probably need to be nerfed a bit for that, since you're effectively doubling your chances of a key 6-cost card. Running him in a destroy deck would potentially give you 2 Knulls, and one of them would have a 12 power buff. It also means that you're giving your opponent a potentially large boost if you're running a deck without a 6 cost. Do we really need Hela decks and Tribunal decks having double the chance of drawing their key card with a higher power?
I feel like one thing that can really just make hulkling better without even changing his stats is honestly to just make it so that at the beginning of the game you see what he turns into. That way you know how to either setup for when you draw it or you pivot if its bad.
They literally acknowledged the issue with Hulking in the patch notes: if they make him good, he'll be too good. It's the same issue Lady Deathstrike had before her rework. His concept of "RNG 6-drop" doesn't work if it costs 6. He needs either to cost less (with a base power reduction) or be ridiculously over-statted as compensation for the RNG. Either way, too good to see live play! He will be everywhere, unpredictable, and the player base will tire of it. He needs a rework. Any other effort is a waste of time.
Changing the text to “Copy the text from a random 6-cost card with an On Reveal ability” narrows down the options to fewer poor ones (besides Taskmaster which still sucks). You still get to copy some of the most fun 6-costs while missing Ongoings or Hulk. Thoughts?
Everyone’s thinking too little by changing him into a 5-cost… It would be far more fun, powerful, and literally lore-accurate if he changed into a random 6-drop text after/at the beginning of each turrrnnnnn and not repeat. If you draw him first turn, the calculation it would take to consider which cards he’s already passed until Turn 6 to save for a possible Magneto or Knull, etc.. Or if you have some energy-cheaters like Psylocke or Electro or Wave, you can score early on a Galactus or Onslaught. Or imagine the card pulling a She-Hulk or Death to reduce the cost by maybe 1 or 2 for a 4-5 energy Knull on last turn. Problem fixed, put ‘em in the spotlight cache.
The problem with him is the same problem that SD has in a lot of their card designs. Chaos. He's chaotic and unreliable. So when you design a deck, Chaos is terrible to try to plan around.
9:13 that guy was completing quests Edit: also Regis what do you think if emperor hulking had the text "when enters hand choose from three 6 cost cards to copy text from" (or something like that)
Dude! This deck is fun! Sadly I have no Blink or Hulkling (well not so sad for that one) s replaced them with Jubilee and Blob. Galactus is for sure the breadwinner, but I am in the plus for winning games! One opponent placed Gladiator on Kamar Taj and got my Alioth and Death. Such a power output!
The way I would fix Hulkling is I would change his ability to be something like "When in hand, Hulking receives a new 6-cost ability each turn until played" sort of like a more random Nico Minoru
I was thinking to myself "I wish he made sense with Wiccan" and a design popped into my head: make him a card that costs whatever energy you have left and gets different power levels depending on his cost, like around 2 times cost
You know, my fix for Hulkling is that instead of copying a random 6 drop he copies 2 random 6 drops. 3 even!! Or just limit his pool to On Reveal cards so the randomness is diminished
If they're going to keep him at 6 cost, I wonder if they could also make it where he adds the power of whatever card he copies onto his own. If he copies Infanaut then he becomes a 6/32, but you may not be able to play him anyway, which would be the tradeoff. He could be a 6/17 Doom or get lucky and be a 6/24 Magneto. Could maybe adjust his base power to compensate. He'd still be really hard to use in most cases, but at least the upside could be really high.
I suppose you could change him to say “At the start of game, copy the text of a 6 cost card in your opponent’s deck.” That might be a decent adjustment.
Funny thing is I hit infinite last season with Emporer Hulking/Wiccan. Some games I just didn't use him but on games that he hit something like Dr. Doom or Arnum Zola it was an 8 cube machine
I wish that hulkling copy to a random five drop instead of a 6 drop. Even with a 10 that would make him a very interesting six drop with some potentially very high rolls
Game 2 am I wrong in thinking he should have played electro into bar sinister to get +4 energy? Then next turn play destroyer to delete the electros? Seems like that would’ve been a really good strategy
I get this video is mainly about Hulkling, but I’ve always struggled to grasp why Destroyer is used in these decks?? It just feels like a pitfall if you Blink him in with a good board or something.
I think if Marvel Snap really wants to make Hulkling viable, then they should do this. Keep him at 6 cost and 12 power. And have his card effect copy another 6 cost within your deck.
Make his text box say “at the start of the game copy a 6 cost card with less than 8 power”. This basically gives him a possibly great power stat with a great ability at the cost of randomness.
That move deck seems like they got a bad hand (IE: Lot of cards to move stuff, but no payoffs) and were just running moving as many moves as possible for mission/alliance/w/e purposes. They knew they weren't going to accomplish much of anything by turn 3 or 4 so they just wanted to max out their moves in game.
They need emperor hulking to target cards in deck at least then u can make some cool plays happen by targeting specific 6 drops or even just one in particular.
I'm afraid I've noticed the deck tracker overlay is getting worse in quality with every single video upload, and I don't know why, but it’s so funny to me. No shade, Regis, I love you!
After watching the video, I still believe that old Destroyer is better. If he wasn't seeing enough play, then just adding even more power probably would've been enough, something like a 6/18. I hold out hope tht it'll be changed but probably not. R.I.P my favourite card
Make him a 5/7 or 5/9 and he’ll be actually good or maybe make his ability give him a new random cards ability (literally any card at all) after every turn you don’t use him or play a card or something along those lines
this deck is much stronger with magik because you get location control, another target for your blink, an extra turn to set up ultron/ killmonger shenanigans. TLDR: dump the hulkling
Honestly, I wouldnt mind Hulkling being a mid/bad card. The problem is that it is a series 5 card. Just shows how bad this series-5-only economy is hurting the game
Listen... you won game 2 anyways... you had so many routes to win I think kinda hard to go wrong... but I'll tell ya... I was rooting for electro in bar sinister on 3 followed by destroyer on 4
Regis you’re such a cool guy man I hate that you’re more of an air head then an 90’s blonde though. Really grinds my gears especially since I can tell you’re actually quite intelligent
I refuse to believe that making him 5-cost made him OP in playtesting
I used to understand that logic until i happened to pull him and the amount of games he's essentially vanilla stats or unplayable is legit mindboggling lol. I guess maybe it would be too much randomness at such high value at 5 cost, but at this point I think i'd be willing to try it.
was it with 5 cost effects? I feel like those are genuinely stronger than 6 costs lol
@@bigbungubingu8291 no it was with same card text just 5 cost
@@bigbungubingu8291 yeah iron man would be insane, white tiger too
@@bigbungubingu8291 with 6, I think
If one power doesn’t do it- make it 6/20
It should be minimum 6/14
My fix for Hulkling would be that it copies the ability AND the power of a random 6 Cost, but gains 2+ power on top of that. So a Spectrum Hulking would be 6/9, Giganto would be 6/16, Doom would be 6/7 ect
@@Funky_Player2in my opinion, that just basically kinda nerfing his other copies, like an arnim zola, the spectrum and the doom you mentioned and 2 power is not much worth it. i was thinking that if they try to do like when you draw the card, you choose between 3 six cost cards to copy the ability. but i think im hoping too much haha
@@Funky_Player2idk that is just valentina's effect but go the other way
If 4 cost -3 is not good then 6 cost +2 wouldn't either
You want him to work? Make him a 5/7. Many of the abilities become a lot better when played a turn earlier.
Hulkling would be good as a 5 cost. So you get a random 6 cost cheaper.
Yeah, being a random 6 cost card doesn’t really make sense, just play the 6 cost card in your deck. No reason to play hulkling since hes just a random 6
Didn't the developers say that was too op? I don't see how
Regis, you’re killing me!
You have Electro and Destroyer in hand, and Bar Sinister mid! Why wouldn’t you go for the +4 Energy play? That’s a no-brainer every single time 😅 7:48
He’s a genius!!!
Was looking for that comment. I couldn't believe my eyes when Regis pressed "End Turn" 😂
I think same you. :D
I can tell you've never had my luck. I get Cosmo'd every time. They play Scarlet Witch into Wakanda. They Armor them.The list goes on.
(also I didn't see it)
@@RegisKillbinoh pal you just made me laugh so hard I think I GENUINELY passed out reading this comment. Please never change buddy, LOVE seeing your videos any time theres an upload.
At 8:06 you could put electro at bar sinister and then destroyer it next turn to get infinite energy
I was so mad he didn't do it
“Galactus is the only reason we’re winning.”
Next game: “Galactus you’re garbage!”
Im not sure if this aligns with their design philosophy, but they could change hulkling to read something like "each turn this is in your hand swap the text to a random 6 cost card. You can active in hand to keep its text"
This allows for less variance and to choose game state a little better
Regis, as both the founding and singular member of the Emperor Hulkling in SNAP Appreciation Society (EHSAS), I must request on behalf of the organisation that you rescind any and all of your claims declaring him to be anything short of perfect. Such statements are hateful and harmful to Emperor Hulking’s image as the best card in Marvel SNAP. We expect nothing less than a public apology on your choice of social media platform. We also hope to see the deletion of this video within 24 hours as an act of good will or legal action WILL be pursued.
man, big bads are always the most unique decks i see in terms of composition. so minmaxxed that there are SEVEN 6+ cost cards!! what a logistical nightmare
Maybe Hulkling could work if he went down to cost 5? The problem with him at 6 is there is no curve-benefit for running a high variance card.
In patch notes they said 5 cost hulking is too op
@@nicolascamaratta they could lower his power
@@nicolascamaratta Hmm, alright
That task master nerf made hulking feels so much worst to play him already, a 5/4 or 5/3 would be much better
lol yeah. Hard to believe that even at 5 energy hulkling could be any stronger than copycat.
If they changed it from random 6 drop to => random 6 drop in your deck he goes from garbage to busted real fast
That’s too good
I don't think so. There will be rise in number, but it's not that significant. At best he would be paired with 6 cost that has cost reduction.
12 power Arnim Zola, along side Arnim Zola for more consistency.
They’ve said before that they don’t want “11 card decks” and I’m pretty sure this would fit under that definition. Also obviously busted lol
@@dreadwitchqueen what about absorbing man and iron lad? not tryna argue but these cards kinda fit the description
Maybe Hulking should say, At the start of the Game, gain the text of a random 6 cost card, in you or your opponents Deck. Something that cuts down on randomness, with a chance to be worse based on your opponents deck. Or hell go all in, every turn Emperor hulkling is in your hand, gain another effect of a 6 cost minion, or a different one if you wnat some more choice.
He'd probably need to be nerfed a bit for that, since you're effectively doubling your chances of a key 6-cost card. Running him in a destroy deck would potentially give you 2 Knulls, and one of them would have a 12 power buff.
It also means that you're giving your opponent a potentially large boost if you're running a deck without a 6 cost. Do we really need Hela decks and Tribunal decks having double the chance of drawing their key card with a higher power?
I feel like one thing that can really just make hulkling better without even changing his stats is honestly to just make it so that at the beginning of the game you see what he turns into. That way you know how to either setup for when you draw it or you pivot if its bad.
Maybe add "draw this on turn 6 if you don’t have him in hand"?
They literally acknowledged the issue with Hulking in the patch notes: if they make him good, he'll be too good. It's the same issue Lady Deathstrike had before her rework.
His concept of "RNG 6-drop" doesn't work if it costs 6. He needs either to cost less (with a base power reduction) or be ridiculously over-statted as compensation for the RNG.
Either way, too good to see live play! He will be everywhere, unpredictable, and the player base will tire of it.
He needs a rework. Any other effort is a waste of time.
He needs to be not able to copy no text cards like hulk, that would be the right buff
I remember playing Hulkling the day he came out and 7 games in a row he was a Spectrum
Changing the text to “Copy the text from a random 6-cost card with an On Reveal ability” narrows down the options to fewer poor ones (besides Taskmaster which still sucks).
You still get to copy some of the most fun 6-costs while missing Ongoings or Hulk.
Thoughts?
Everyone’s thinking too little by changing him into a 5-cost…
It would be far more fun, powerful, and literally lore-accurate if he changed into a random 6-drop text after/at the beginning of each turrrnnnnn and not repeat.
If you draw him first turn, the calculation it would take to consider which cards he’s already passed until Turn 6 to save for a possible Magneto or Knull, etc.. Or if you have some energy-cheaters like Psylocke or Electro or Wave, you can score early on a Galactus or Onslaught. Or imagine the card pulling a She-Hulk or Death to reduce the cost by maybe 1 or 2 for a 4-5 energy Knull on last turn. Problem fixed, put ‘em in the spotlight cache.
I think Hulkling should be a 5 cost card. 6 cost seems so useless and too late.
The problem with him is the same problem that SD has in a lot of their card designs. Chaos. He's chaotic and unreliable. So when you design a deck, Chaos is terrible to try to plan around.
@13:47 Jabroni lived up to their name. 😂
9:13 that guy was completing quests
Edit: also Regis what do you think if emperor hulking had the text "when enters hand choose from three 6 cost cards to copy text from" (or something like that)
Dude! This deck is fun! Sadly I have no Blink or Hulkling (well not so sad for that one) s replaced them with Jubilee and Blob. Galactus is for sure the breadwinner, but I am in the plus for winning games! One opponent placed Gladiator on Kamar Taj and got my Alioth and Death. Such a power output!
It's so sad bc lore wise he's the most adorable, kind dude. Unlucky he's not good :(
Yeah, got no synergy with his husband. Or halfsister(though got no clue how he’d fit with Martyr lol)
I think they should give you 2 or 3 possibilities to choose from for emperor hulklings ability. That way it isn’t always just THE HULK lol.
The way I would fix Hulkling is I would change his ability to be something like "When in hand, Hulking receives a new 6-cost ability each turn until played" sort of like a more random Nico Minoru
I was thinking to myself "I wish he made sense with Wiccan" and a design popped into my head: make him a card that costs whatever energy you have left and gets different power levels depending on his cost, like around 2 times cost
You know, my fix for Hulkling is that instead of copying a random 6 drop he copies 2 random 6 drops. 3 even!! Or just limit his pool to On Reveal cards so the randomness is diminished
Also, make him work when created
If they're going to keep him at 6 cost, I wonder if they could also make it where he adds the power of whatever card he copies onto his own. If he copies Infanaut then he becomes a 6/32, but you may not be able to play him anyway, which would be the tradeoff. He could be a 6/17 Doom or get lucky and be a 6/24 Magneto. Could maybe adjust his base power to compensate. He'd still be really hard to use in most cases, but at least the upside could be really high.
I suppose you could change him to say “At the start of game, copy the text of a 6 cost card in your opponent’s deck.” That might be a decent adjustment.
This could make him a worser copy cat
@@MichaelHo-lo3fp or a better copy cat. I think it’s a decent idea
Funny thing is I hit infinite last season with Emporer Hulking/Wiccan. Some games I just didn't use him but on games that he hit something like Dr. Doom or Arnum Zola it was an 8 cube machine
I wish that hulkling copy to a random five drop instead of a 6 drop. Even with a 10 that would make him a very interesting six drop with some potentially very high rolls
Any alternative for Blink and Sersi?
Destroy Electro with Carnage, Venom, Lady Deathstrike etc. Or Gamble with Sersi 😅
He needs to be 5 cost to have any value. Then he would be his own ramp kind of.
Game 2 am I wrong in thinking he should have played electro into bar sinister to get +4 energy? Then next turn play destroyer to delete the electros?
Seems like that would’ve been a really good strategy
Emperor Hulkling is still a silhouette in my collection lol
2nd game you should've played Electro in Bar Sinister, turn 4 you've used Destroyer and would have A LOT of energy to play in turns 5-6.
I get this video is mainly about Hulkling, but I’ve always struggled to grasp why Destroyer is used in these decks?? It just feels like a pitfall if you Blink him in with a good board or something.
Is “when created” a tag in snap? If so then hulkling would at least exist as a card even if you don’t play with him in your deck.
13:45 why did you lose points and ranking after wining?
In the 2nd game you could have electro into bar sinister followed by destroyer
Yeah they need to change the pool hulking hits 6 ain't it w the current pool of 6 drops and hulking's base stats.
I don't have blink any recommendations for replacement?
I wonder if excluding hulk from the list of cards he can copy would make him better, like he feels he needs QoL buffs
This is a massive buff, he is now just a clearly better Orka and we all know how good that card is
I think if Marvel Snap really wants to make Hulkling viable, then they should do this. Keep him at 6 cost and 12 power. And have his card effect copy another 6 cost within your deck.
on game two why not play electro mid and then destroyer turn 4?
Another way to buff him would be that he changes what card he copies each turn, kinda like Nico Minoru
Make his text box say “at the start of the game copy a 6 cost card with less than 8 power”. This basically gives him a possibly great power stat with a great ability at the cost of randomness.
They could adjust the power requirement of the copied cards for balancing purposes.
That's sounds like nerf but actually a buff. The only great thing it won't hit is just Alioth.
Sounds bad but it might works
That move deck seems like they got a bad hand (IE: Lot of cards to move stuff, but no payoffs) and were just running moving as many moves as possible for mission/alliance/w/e purposes. They knew they weren't going to accomplish much of anything by turn 3 or 4 so they just wanted to max out their moves in game.
1:51 My take, Hulkling should be a 5/10 to make up for the ramdomness
They need emperor hulking to target cards in deck at least then u can make some cool plays happen by targeting specific 6 drops or even just one in particular.
Absolutely broken
You would always run it with knull or armon zola
Hulkling rolling Destroyer just got you a vod like, is that a win for him?
Wooo another Regis vid
7:29 the game knows what it wants, what else is there to say
I'm afraid I've noticed the deck tracker overlay is getting worse in quality with every single video upload, and I don't know why, but it’s so funny to me. No shade, Regis, I love you!
What if you don't have sersi?
Why does he not snap in videos?
why Regis doesnt have variants?
I don’t understand why you didn’t play Electro in Bar sinister and then use the destroyer to blow them up next turn.
23:53 how did nobody else see that glitch with death
Alternative for Sersi?
maybe he should just change text every turn
It wouldn't really matter. He's mostly only playable on turn 6. So, the turn 6 text is what you'd get.
5:51 Mission failed successfully
Add misery instead😮
why doesnt snap on videos?
After watching the video, I still believe that old Destroyer is better. If he wasn't seeing enough play, then just adding even more power probably would've been enough, something like a 6/18. I hold out hope tht it'll be changed but probably not. R.I.P my favourite card
I feel Hulkling should only ever copy text off of cards with proper effects.
What if....At the start of the game, copy the text of a random 6-COst card in the deck. ?
Very broken
You would always run it with knull or armon zola
1st game could have gone bonkers with electro mid for +4 energy. T4 Destroyer. T5-6 bonkers
Make him a 5/7 or 5/9 and he’ll be actually good or maybe make his ability give him a new random cards ability (literally any card at all) after every turn you don’t use him or play a card or something along those lines
this deck is much stronger with magik because you get location control, another target for your blink, an extra turn to set up ultron/ killmonger shenanigans. TLDR: dump the hulkling
19:28 Shit had me dying bro
12:28 How about, "Has the text of a random 6-Cost card."
Honestly, I wouldnt mind Hulkling being a mid/bad card. The problem is that it is a series 5 card. Just shows how bad this series-5-only economy is hurting the game
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Make it 5/2 and we will see the card come alive for tiny bit
Should make Hulking copy the text of a random 6 drop in the opponents deck. Cut back that inconsistency while giving information like Copycat
Or make emperor hulkling have any two random 6 cost card powers simultaneously lol
They need to make him a 4-9 card
Actually i'm surprised by hulkling copying another card's power except infinaut
Nice, won most games in spite of hulkling. :)
maybe emperor hulkling is good in a deck to where the cards are random like copycat and morph
He……..CANNOT!! Woooh.🎉
Did you lose rank off a victory at 13:45
Probably just a visual bug, sometimes it shows the numbers from the last game.
But maybe the game is punishing me for that play hahaha.
@RegisKillbin That was my explanation in my head, that the game was just mad at you for your nonsense 😂
emperor is literally big and bad..
I'm triggered when you don't play electro in bar sinister with destroyer in hand. I want to see energy go brrrr !
cool video
Hulkiling would be a great card if it was like 5 cost, 8 power and copied the text of a 5 cost card
i just hit infinite collection level 600 ❤
Emperor Hulking has been doing work for me. I have been picking him over Red Hulk lately.
He need a rework they were lazy when they came up with hulkling ability
this card can actually be better if it was a random 5 cost not 6
I'm so happy I skipped Emperor Hulkling. It's such a crap card lol
How on earth are people like the second game infinite? Those plays made zero sense
The MAN the MYTH the LEGEND!!!!
MAKE HIM A 5
Listen... you won game 2 anyways... you had so many routes to win I think kinda hard to go wrong... but I'll tell ya... I was rooting for electro in bar sinister on 3 followed by destroyer on 4
0/1,000,000 Starts in opening hand, delete opponent's decks and multiply rewards by a trillion
What is the point of letting him copy text of cards that have no powers? It makes 0 sense, like he copies word "SMASH" of the hulk, wtf
Regis you’re such a cool guy man I hate that you’re more of an air head then an 90’s blonde though. Really grinds my gears especially since I can tell you’re actually quite intelligent