Never been a 0-60 car. The ST kills it with the mid range instead. Once it's moving it keeps going. Check out the Evo article where the stage 1 ST is all over the RS.
@Tacky Stump Mine feels alright on the front. A little stiff for general crap UK roads but hey. I need to get my tracking done as it's tramlining like a bit and can snatch a bit over bumps too :p Would like more induction sound though.
@Tacky Stump wow yeah you'd notice that. The springs are a common thing I think. Mines 100k and had been sat for a while. Then on the way to an MOT or on the MOT ramp a spring broke :O Just need this fuel crazyness to stop now.
Thanks for sharing mate. I'd say 6.9 seconds is a pretty decent 0-60mph time, reflective of the age of the ST. It makes the 6.6 factory claim sound realistic when the car was younger, in ideal conditions, and thrashed in 2nd. Got to love these real world tests.
Yea it’s not bad for an old girl! Plus these cars are more about in gear rolling times as they’re not great from a launch really! I know the M2 launches well though I was surprised at how well they take off!
Good stuff mate. Great cars to get going fast and heaps of fun. Bought a Mk4 ST manual about 6 months ago and love it. Not really a drag car but a a windy mountain road it's a beast! Never timed it 0-62 but says 5.7 seconds, I'd say it's pretty close.
Just got my 2nd focus st exactly same colour and 5 door as well but pre face-lift and pushing 320bhp on collins performance , it's an absolute animal 🤪
Excellent video. Racelogic is the motorsport industry standard timing/date system. Wish though I never crashed my mk2 ST. The noise from the 5-pot is still one of my favs
honestly these cars are not meant to be launched, it is meant for curves and turns, amazing 5 cyl noise and sweet soft acceleration, otherwise its just wheelspin especially when u turn off traction and eating driveshafts..
just got my first ever mk2 Focus st & to think it's completely standard is absolutely mind blowing. the sound from it is something else.. but what's the verdict with the fuel? I stuck 40 quid in it and it was gone within an hour 😂
No one believes me, but I average 30-35 overall. I even managed nearly 41 once, on a gentle motorway run, about 100 miles! (I always verify the computer's figure at the pump.) In the 90s, even a sensible car of this weight wouldn't have bettered these numbers.
Great video Gary. Impressive numbers considering the mechanical sympathy being given to the car. 👍🏼 FWD's are hard to get good 0-60s with as everyone's aware but the these cars really shine on rolling acceleration 👍🏼
@@CarFocused yeah exactly, the good thing about the ST’s is that you can have fun without breaking any speed limits 👍🏼 it’s more than quick enough for the back roads but not too fast where you’re in licence losing territory. The RS would be at home on a runway haha!
@@CarFocused I tried, but the front wheels just kept lighting up 🤣. To be fair, that was when it was cold and greasy AND before I fitted the Revo dogbone mount.
I used to have an ST running over 300bhp. Mapped with no torque limit in lower gears, was a right handful off the mark, but flooring from a rolling start was 👌
@@CarFocused took mine to santa pod, 1st run was 16.5! Buy the time I worked out the right strategy, traction off, slip the clutch, give it death in 2nd, quickest time I got was 14.1 and that was with a boot full of subwoofers 🙃
Owned a focus st great car also owned 2 focus rs mk2 and 1 focus rs mk3 current car fiesta st all great cars but for everyday use fiesta st is best and much cheaper to maintain and run
Physically grab it and feel for play, listen to clicking on full lock, clunking when pulling away and vibration in the steering wheel on the move which is worse under load.
Thanks for the reply, I picked on up yesterday and have read it's a common thing to go but was unsure of the symptoms I'll definitely keep a eye out for it 😊
My driveshaft was making a warping noise and just thought it was the wheel bearing…would still be doing 130’s and taking corners like a prat lmao then one day it sounded like a tank moving through a quiet village🥹
Great 0-60 considering you need 3rd gear! I know when I had a dreamscience remap on mine running pretty sure it was dsci map the rev limiter was lifted meaning you could reach it in 2nd
Back in the day I had a Volvo S40 T5 AWD with the same engine and gearbox as this has, and it was able to do 0-60 on 2nd gear. It did had a remap (260hp/380nm), but not sure if that increased the rev limit. Anyhow my best 0-60 with that was 6,3s. No wheelspin off the line of course, but the haldex system makes it 150kgs heavier, so not a huge difference on dry with the Focus.
agreed,I had an early mk2 st and after I bluefinned it 60 was possible in 2nd gear...that one mod tcompletely ransformed that car..along with an intake it could keep up with a friend's mk2 rs...
@@rossturnbull8632 that sounds about right, mine was a pre face-lift also and had a decat as the only other mod, I only had 2 goes against a mk2 rs and while I believe I had more on the lower end, the rs definitely pulled slightly at the top of the rev range
Pretty good results, the factory figures are likely to be achieved by holding 2nd gear and on a rolling road so no air resistance to hold the car up. Results aside….good fun 😊 which takes off a second at least!
First thing I do when I start the car, every time, is turn traction off. It hobbles the car like crazy. My brother in law bought an MR310 and thought there was something wrong with it until I told him to turn the TC off. And you can definitely get 60 in 2nd.
Why didn’t you put Michelin Pilot Sport 4s on then try it, their one of if not the best tyre on the road. You would most likely do 6.6 or less with them tyres on👍🏼
I get 6.6easy..with my st stage 2 revo...a week ago I had a problem. Got engine malfunction..my elm 327 obd ..stopped working...an I realize everytime I plug it on car goes into limp mode..errors...I have no idea what is wrong
Stage 2 would be a fair bit quicker than mine which is standard so I’d expect you to be getting better times - I can’t help you with the fault maybe ask in the forums?
Thats a weird one paul. Forget forums, theyre pretty dead. Join up to the focus st owners uk facebook page, ill keep an eye out but it sounds like theres more to it than just what youve mentioned?
At first it gave me pedal sensor fault ..car had no acceleration....put the obd in found the code cleared it ..car was fine 20 mins later I got engine malfunction put obd to clear ..it refuse to clear..I then had to take battery terminal of...waited for a while..put back terminal..car started fine..I put the obd in an limp mode again..my problem as something to do with the dongle
@@paulreddy664 fair enough but i dont get how an obd dongle could cause limp mode, all its doing is reading from the ecu and modules in the car. Limp mode has to be something else wrong with the ecu i would think. If the dongle was the problem youd only get to connect to some of the modules before reading anything. Strongly recommend a usb elm327 with a metal toggle switch, can be bought off ebay. Also use forscan. If youre already doing both then itd be worth trying a different elm
Its got the gearing to do 62mph in 2nd gear before limiter, the standard turbo will run out before then so itll sound like its strained while doing it though. Also...yea those tyres certainly wont help.
Yea itll be down to the turbo 100%. It runs out of puff just before 5500rpm, but that should still be quicker than shifting up to 3rd i think? - I could hear the logger beeping just as you shifted up in the video. Not sure where the limiter kicks in with the factory map, ive revved mine above 7500rpm but thats with a custom map and hybrid ST turbo. As a side note i'd bet that if you did the tests again with a stage 1 fmic youd get better results; the ecu holds ignition back with the standard fmic due to increasing IATs, even without a remap mine felt more freed up with a fmic fitted.
Not really a 0-60 car. I've got MP260 + extras, and the best thing about the car is the pull you get when overtaking. In gear acceleration is the best for the ST. Oh, and you have to be careful with the chocolate driveshafts!!
@@euanscotland I've had my ST over 10 years now. if you drive properly and don't launch it, the driveshafts will be fine. Always go Ford if you do swap.
@Car Focused I thought more like 7.5 that's why 6.9 surprised me, but I've mentioned before that the gear box has a pretty long throw and you should fit a quick gear shift kit it makes a huge difference, try one on your ST and I guarantee you would fit one to your RS, its a real cheap mod and easily fitted 👍
Gaz the most important thing pal block mod for defo.then i would say anthing around 300ish afterthat its silly moneytime its all in the map thats why i swear with motorsport developments ive drove loads with diffrent types of maps but nothing like the way theres are.like i said try mine m8
Lol had a rover 214 done 4.4s and my ford st would do low 6s madness big lazy engine from the 1990s newer st much faster mk2 better looking car as well
I wouldn't say it's advertisement. Like Gary said in the video he wasn't being paid to advertise the product the company sent him out a box to use on any of the cars that are on the channel. It's not an advertisement at all, just a pleasant gesture to the company which sent him the box, to make this video possible. 🤷♂️
Never been a 0-60 car. The ST kills it with the mid range instead. Once it's moving it keeps going. Check out the Evo article where the stage 1 ST is all over the RS.
4th gear for me is like time warp gear ;)
@Tacky Stump Mine feels alright on the front. A little stiff for general crap UK roads but hey. I need to get my tracking done as it's tramlining like a bit and can snatch a bit over bumps too :p
Would like more induction sound though.
@Tacky Stump wow yeah you'd notice that. The springs are a common thing I think. Mines 100k and had been sat for a while. Then on the way to an MOT or on the MOT ramp a spring broke :O Just need this fuel crazyness to stop now.
The Focus MK 2.5 is just the best car ever created.
Thanks for sharing mate. I'd say 6.9 seconds is a pretty decent 0-60mph time, reflective of the age of the ST. It makes the 6.6 factory claim sound realistic when the car was younger, in ideal conditions, and thrashed in 2nd. Got to love these real world tests.
Yea it’s not bad for an old girl! Plus these cars are more about in gear rolling times as they’re not great from a launch really! I know the M2 launches well though I was surprised at how well they take off!
Interesting to see the results but everyone knows that these cars are strong from a rolling start, sounds lovely too!
Yea she’s not too bad once on the move! Still 6.9 not that bad for its age and the tyres it’s on!
Great handling car with premium tyres! Good post
Good stuff mate. Great cars to get going fast and heaps of fun. Bought a Mk4 ST manual about 6 months ago and love it. Not really a drag car but a a windy mountain road it's a beast! Never timed it 0-62 but says 5.7 seconds, I'd say it's pretty close.
Yea the mk4’s are quick - I’ve had a few to review a while back and really enjoyed them! Thanks for watching mate!
Just got my 2nd focus st exactly same colour and 5 door as well but pre face-lift and pushing 320bhp on collins performance , it's an absolute animal 🤪
I bet it’s crying out for a diff isn’t it?haha
@@CarFocused Ye mate 🙈 I've tried to put the foot down twice so far and each time the car wants to kill me lmfao but gives it character 😝
@@INSANEripsaw 😂😂
Easily one of the most beautiful cars ever made
Excellent video. Racelogic is the motorsport industry standard timing/date system. Wish though I never crashed my mk2 ST. The noise from the 5-pot is still one of my favs
Yes they sound so good, it’s addictive!
I will sell u mine 😁
Love that bit of road, I went through a few dreamscience maps and definitely hit 60mph in second. ModX was a great map 👍
Watch loads of your videos on Rs and St you keep up good standard always on the burton well one
Thank you mate!
honestly these cars are not meant to be launched, it is meant for curves and turns, amazing 5 cyl noise and sweet soft acceleration, otherwise its just wheelspin especially when u turn off traction and eating driveshafts..
I have a Golf VR5 2.3 non turbo and it hits 65 in second 😊 im thinking of buying a stage 2 focus
just got my first ever mk2 Focus st & to think it's completely standard is absolutely mind blowing.
the sound from it is something else.. but what's the verdict with the fuel? I stuck 40 quid in it and it was gone within an hour 😂
Welcome to ST ownership 😂
@@CarFocused mate I'm still trying to process in my mind if that's right or not😂.. if that's the case I probably won't have this car for too long😒
@@roberts5368 I’m averaging 25mpg at the moment….
No one believes me, but I average 30-35 overall. I even managed nearly 41 once, on a gentle motorway run, about 100 miles! (I always verify the computer's figure at the pump.) In the 90s, even a sensible car of this weight wouldn't have bettered these numbers.
Interesting, I managed a 6.2 verified on draggy with my standard 60 reg, but I did have pilot sport 4 tyres
Good tires and right conditions will make all the difference
Nice times really, you have to factor in the tyres and conditions and also the age of the car/ engine etc
I'm really considering buying one of these MK2 focuses
Take your time - find a good one and it’ll treat you well ☺️
Do it - I've had mine for a long time and I still love it. A future classic (and my insurer seems to agree).
Was never very quick out of the box but always sound good just sold my second one not missing the fuel bill
Yea the fuel bill sucks!haha
After my ford performance tune, I get around 32 mpg per tank in the summer if I don't drive it hard.
@@msimrow you have the 2.0 4 banger though don’t you? The 5 cylinders in the mk2 are notoriously thirsty.
Great video Gary. Impressive numbers considering the mechanical sympathy being given to the car. 👍🏼 FWD's are hard to get good 0-60s with as everyone's aware but the these cars really shine on rolling acceleration 👍🏼
Yea it’s deffo more about rolling starts with these but unfortunately I can’t do anything over 70mph on a public road 😢 Need a runway!hehe
@@CarFocused yeah exactly, the good thing about the ST’s is that you can have fun without breaking any speed limits 👍🏼 it’s more than quick enough for the back roads but not too fast where you’re in licence losing territory. The RS would be at home on a runway haha!
Same with my megane 225 . Off the line got beat by a mapped 120d in the rain. X drive.. but mid range i got in front of him
Good effort lad!
Need to do your Cupra!
@@CarFocused I tried, but the front wheels just kept lighting up 🤣. To be fair, that was when it was cold and greasy AND before I fitted the Revo dogbone mount.
@@CarObsession haha yea it’s not the easiest in these fwd cars is it! I reckon you’ll be sub 6 👍🏻
I used to have an ST running over 300bhp. Mapped with no torque limit in lower gears, was a right handful off the mark, but flooring from a rolling start was 👌
Yea it’s all about the roll with these 👌🏻
@@CarFocused took mine to santa pod, 1st run was 16.5! Buy the time I worked out the right strategy, traction off, slip the clutch, give it death in 2nd, quickest time I got was 14.1 and that was with a boot full of subwoofers 🙃
Owned a focus st great car also owned 2 focus rs mk2 and 1 focus rs mk3 current car fiesta st all great cars but for everyday use fiesta st is best and much cheaper to maintain and run
How can you tell when a drive shaft is on its way out?
Physically grab it and feel for play, listen to clicking on full lock, clunking when pulling away and vibration in the steering wheel on the move which is worse under load.
Thanks for the reply, I picked on up yesterday and have read it's a common thing to go but was unsure of the symptoms I'll definitely keep a eye out for it 😊
Feels like u have really bad wheel balance aswell as the above
My driveshaft was making a warping noise and just thought it was the wheel bearing…would still be doing 130’s and taking corners like a prat lmao then one day it sounded like a tank moving through a quiet village🥹
I think you need fresh sparkplugs, filters, oil, coils, etc. Also good tyres :)
Good efforts on budgets mate 👍
Cheers mate - need some decent tyres on it really!
I need to try both of mine now, interested what they will do….
Great 0-60 considering you need 3rd gear! I know when I had a dreamscience remap on mine running pretty sure it was dsci map the rev limiter was lifted meaning you could reach it in 2nd
Back in the day I had a Volvo S40 T5 AWD with the same engine and gearbox as this has, and it was able to do 0-60 on 2nd gear.
It did had a remap (260hp/380nm), but not sure if that increased the rev limit. Anyhow my best 0-60 with that was 6,3s. No wheelspin off the line of course, but the haldex system makes it 150kgs heavier, so not a huge difference on dry with the Focus.
agreed,I had an early mk2 st and after I bluefinned it 60 was possible in 2nd gear...that one mod tcompletely ransformed that car..along with an intake it could keep up with a friend's mk2 rs...
@@rossturnbull8632 that sounds about right, mine was a pre face-lift also and had a decat as the only other mod, I only had 2 goes against a mk2 rs and while I believe I had more on the lower end, the rs definitely pulled slightly at the top of the rev range
My 2018 ST best 0-60 was 5.8 seconds. It only has the ford performance tune, everything else is stock.
😂😂
Pretty good results, the factory figures are likely to be achieved by holding 2nd gear and on a rolling road so no air resistance to hold the car up. Results aside….good fun 😊 which takes off a second at least!
Yea it’s always a bit of fun getting behind the wheel. More time in the bag with decent rubber and a more aggressive launch though 👌🏻
@@CarFocused reminds me that we never progressed that RS/ST rolling road day/meet up.
Come back again with brand new Pilot Sport 4S or the new 5. Then maybe a re-map back to back comparison?
The problem is I’m reluctant to spend anymore money on it 🙈
Yeah stage one with launch control should beat it. My best is 5.4 with stage 3 on ps4s
I think with branded tyres & a warm dry day you would have 6.6 definitely. On top of that you would get 6.3 if 2nd did 60 mph
First thing I do when I start the car, every time, is turn traction off. It hobbles the car like crazy. My brother in law bought an MR310 and thought there was something wrong with it until I told him to turn the TC off. And you can definitely get 60 in 2nd.
Mate can you turn of Traction control off permanently or do i always have to press that button?
@@emptyzone8542 Have to press it every time you start the car.
@@otacon5648 that sucks since every time it resets when u shut off the car
@@emptyzone8542 Yeah but that’s just how it is. The design of the car is nearly 20 years old.
Why didn’t you put Michelin Pilot Sport 4s on then try it, their one of if not the best tyre on the road. You would most likely do 6.6 or less with them tyres on👍🏼
i would love to have a ST mk2 5 door like that, but for now i'll settle with a zetec s mk2
👌🏻👌🏻
Have you tried the RS? 👍👍
That will be coming soon 👍🏻
So to get a good 0 -60 u need named rubber? It should do the times no matter what tyres r on it
A better tyre compound makes quite a difference in terms of traction, so it should make a difference.
Total agree m8!
I get 6.6easy..with my st stage 2 revo...a week ago I had a problem. Got engine malfunction..my elm 327 obd ..stopped working...an I realize everytime I plug it on car goes into limp mode..errors...I have no idea what is wrong
Stage 2 would be a fair bit quicker than mine which is standard so I’d expect you to be getting better times - I can’t help you with the fault maybe ask in the forums?
Thats a weird one paul. Forget forums, theyre pretty dead. Join up to the focus st owners uk facebook page, ill keep an eye out but it sounds like theres more to it than just what youve mentioned?
At first it gave me pedal sensor fault ..car had no acceleration....put the obd in found the code cleared it ..car was fine 20 mins later I got engine malfunction put obd to clear ..it refuse to clear..I then had to take battery terminal of...waited for a while..put back terminal..car started fine..I put the obd in an limp mode again..my problem as something to do with the dongle
Just to add I did 13.2 at tarlton racetrack ....an 13 flat at rosslyn track..
@@paulreddy664 fair enough but i dont get how an obd dongle could cause limp mode, all its doing is reading from the ecu and modules in the car. Limp mode has to be something else wrong with the ecu i would think. If the dongle was the problem youd only get to connect to some of the modules before reading anything. Strongly recommend a usb elm327 with a metal toggle switch, can be bought off ebay. Also use forscan. If youre already doing both then itd be worth trying a different elm
Great video 👍👍❤️
Try the rs
That’s the plan - although I’m not going to enjoy launching that 🙈
I dont launch mine, rolling from around 30 before i fully floor it, otherwise bye bye drive shafts and tyres..
Brilliant fun cheers👌👍🤙💖
Thanks mate!
you gave it a good go
Its got the gearing to do 62mph in 2nd gear before limiter, the standard turbo will run out before then so itll sound like its strained while doing it though. Also...yea those tyres certainly wont help.
Yea I wasn’t sure if it would just run out of puff. Annoyingly the tyres are new so can’t really justify changing them them haha.
Yea itll be down to the turbo 100%. It runs out of puff just before 5500rpm, but that should still be quicker than shifting up to 3rd i think? - I could hear the logger beeping just as you shifted up in the video. Not sure where the limiter kicks in with the factory map, ive revved mine above 7500rpm but thats with a custom map and hybrid ST turbo. As a side note i'd bet that if you did the tests again with a stage 1 fmic youd get better results; the ecu holds ignition back with the standard fmic due to increasing IATs, even without a remap mine felt more freed up with a fmic fitted.
@@lastexile1187 I’ve been offered a Pro Alloy fmic for a very good price which I’ll probably have…
@@CarFocused go for it. Even a 2nd hand airtec stage 1 (or 2) would do. Dunno about R sport or whatever theyre called, the cheap ones..
Looks like a good bit of fun. Should try it on my 3dr 😂😂
I was going to suggest that. I’ve got it for a few months!
Had mine over 5 years now, had both driveshafts replaced, one sheared off and I wasn't even launching it😅
They’re like chocolate sticks 😂
Not really a 0-60 car. I've got MP260 + extras, and the best thing about the car is the pull you get when overtaking. In gear acceleration is the best for the ST. Oh, and you have to be careful with the chocolate driveshafts!!
The Ford drive shafts are good. Beware of anything other than that. !
@@euanscotland I've had my ST over 10 years now. if you drive properly and don't launch it, the driveshafts will be fine. Always go Ford if you do swap.
Button well done
I got 57 plate 1 an love it
With some decent rubber on mate 6.5 secs me thinks 👍😊
Really surprised at 6.9 but shows how good the 5 pot lump actually is, or was lol
You thought it would be slower or faster than that?
@Car Focused
I thought more like 7.5 that's why 6.9 surprised me, but I've mentioned before that the gear box has a pretty long throw and you should fit a quick gear shift kit it makes a huge difference, try one on your ST and I guarantee you would fit one to your RS, its a real cheap mod and easily fitted 👍
Will watch this later. Have a Mk2 nearly standard in the same colour but 3 door. It's okay but would never trust it as a daily driver.
They’re actually pretty solid if you look after them. But I guess with a car that age it’s always at the back of your mind that it might break!
Repeat with RS ?? :)
That’s the plan!
Should've used the launch control
That’s not really I launch control - I believe it’s to prevent damage to the car, so they just put a limited on when the clutch is engaged.
What petrol you running it on , not that e10 sh1t
Hell no - super unleaded in my cars!
Gaz ps4 and a little msd map and you will smash it. Get up to Manchester and take mine out with the msd map your welcome anytime m8
I’m torn on wether I should mod it or not 🙈
Gaz the most important thing pal block mod for defo.then i would say anthing around 300ish afterthat its silly moneytime its all in the map thats why i swear with motorsport developments ive drove loads with diffrent types of maps but nothing like the way theres are.like i said try mine m8
Gear video 👍
Thank you 😃
Should have left it in second
Not quite sure it’ll hit 60 in second, plus it’s a bit brutal.
Please keep it up!!! I am suprised that you haven't researched Promo'SM!
Get those excuses in early doors. 😂😂👍🏼
Oh and mind your driveshafts 😬
Not bad for crap tyres.
Roadcruza’s struggling for grip 😂 They’re so bad in the wet 🙈
Lol had a rover 214 done 4.4s and my ford st would do low 6s madness big lazy engine from the 1990s newer st much faster mk2 better looking car as well
Don’t think there was much of a point to this video other than advertising some box 🤷🏻♂️
The point was testing the 0 - 60 times of the car lol
And have a giggle. 😂
I wouldn't say it's advertisement. Like Gary said in the video he wasn't being paid to advertise the product the company sent him out a box to use on any of the cars that are on the channel. It's not an advertisement at all, just a pleasant gesture to the company which sent him the box, to make this video possible. 🤷♂️
I'd say the video has more of a point to it than you leaving this comment 🤣 Negative Nelly...booooo