Brilliant highlight of how important spreading doubt about which demon is in play, with everyone believing it was vortox it hid the false information of the no dashi and even then doubt that it may be the fang gu
I was really hoping Ben would have claimed ex no-dashi with dakota as his witch and skills as ceranova, when he claimed to have been snake charmed. There is no, in Game information that can prove Ben wrong in this case. Good does not have time to kill the minion, Dakota if they believe him. And if they don't believe him, there are still other targets besides Dakota that can be demon with the Clock Maker info(Pat and Aggie)
Thanks, Daddy Ben. Had to pause this video 15 minutes in to go watch Walken and his SNL cowbell skit. Now I'm going to have Don't Fear The Reaper in my head for the next week....
There aren't many channels where I click like on every video within the first few seconds, but Blood on the Clocktower is definitely on that list, with no change in sight.
Played such a good game until Ben overplayed the Cerenovous.. had very little on him until then and then drew all the attention to him and as such his neighbour and was an obvious minion play and not a demon play.. good game
Hey, I have a couple edge case Vortox questions How would a Nightwatchman interact with the Vortox? Would a poisoned Nightwatchman in a Vortox game work correctly? Would an evil townsfolk ability function properly under Vortox?
In a Vortox game, the Nightwatchman would pick someone and that player would learn that a different player is the Nightwatchman, or that the Nightwatchman is a different character. Basically anything but the one truth that the Nightwatchman is the Nightwatchman. Vortox does not discern any difference based on the Townsfolk's alignment. It's all always false. - Ben
If a Vigormortis has killed one of its minions, and gets turned into a different demon, does the dead minion keep its power, or lose it upon the switch?
Because the Vigormortis has gone out of play (i.e. no longer exists), their ability also goes out of play. This means that the minion would lose their ability at this point.
Can someone explain to me Ekins game plan? I understand being the mutant you have to lie but since the mutant is a good player why would they intentionally try and get other possible good players executed? Especially when the only real sus on that player is the mutants lie?
Broadly, the only consistent tool at the Good Team's disposal is executions. Good Teams that tend to be execution-happy (even if the majority of those executions are good players, which they almost certainly will be) tend to stand a higher chance of winning, as they give themselves as many chances as possible at killing minions and the demon. Personally, in most cases, I'd rather execute a player at random than no player at all. As far as Ekin's strategy here goes, he may have picked up on something that made him want to have particular players executed, or he may have just wanted *someone* executed, and so he lied to make it happen. - Evin
Also note that Ekin was pushing on the person he thought was double claiming Ben, if he thought that Ben was reading socially good then it makes sense to push on Dakota. He is also in a better position than most to know whether someone is lying despite being good as he is the one player who knows who the mutant is. It also might allow him to soak up a demon kill as he's acting like a real Oracle, and as far as he knows he wouldn't have to make up false info as he could just pass it on from Ben
I know a crazy combination of characters... Vortox, Lunatic, Twins, Mezepheles, Magician... That mixed with whatever characters you want, but I chose Pixie, Savant, Philosopher, Alchemist and Mathematician. It's crazy, because if you have the Lunatic believing that he has the good twin as a minion and the magician as the other then you have every evil person believing that the magician is part of their team. Mixed with the Vortox being unknown to even the Minions, that and picking Mezepheles as the minion known to the Vortox, makes the Vortox makes him think that he's the lunatic which is just amazing!!
Ekin believed that Dakota was double claiming Ben, so that's why he pushed on Dakota. Ekin claimed to be a spent seamstress because he's a Mutant and has to make some sort of townsfolk claim.
That’s how Mutant works, if you break madness then the good team’s execution for that day is wasted on killing you. He came out as soon as he died, undoing his “damage”
I think this was pretty shortly after they started including pronouns in their discord names. I remember one stream in particular where chat was really on Ben about someone's pronouns. (I don't remember who). But in the more recent games, people seem to be more used to each others preferred pronouns.
Has no one ever put Ben and Nicky in an Evil Twin pair. That would be amazing.
Ben and Nicky are always the Evil Twin pair... Even when it's not on the script.
Ben’s juggle to tell evil his role was masterful!
Brilliant highlight of how important spreading doubt about which demon is in play, with everyone believing it was vortox it hid the false information of the no dashi and even then doubt that it may be the fang gu
I was really hoping Ben would have claimed ex no-dashi with dakota as his witch and skills as ceranova, when he claimed to have been snake charmed.
There is no, in Game information that can prove Ben wrong in this case. Good does not have time to kill the minion, Dakota if they believe him. And if they don't believe him, there are still other targets besides Dakota that can be demon with the Clock Maker info(Pat and Aggie)
Really enjoy these player perspectives, glad it's an idea you guys decided on 👍
"why did you smoke?"
"because I was drunk, Aggie"
"You're a Drunk Aggie?"
I thought that was your hard claim, being a Drunk Aggie.
Thanks, Daddy Ben. Had to pause this video 15 minutes in to go watch Walken and his SNL cowbell skit. Now I'm going to have Don't Fear The Reaper in my head for the next week....
There aren't many channels where I click like on every video within the first few seconds, but Blood on the Clocktower is definitely on that list, with no change in sight.
Played such a good game until Ben overplayed the Cerenovous.. had very little on him until then and then drew all the attention to him and as such his neighbour and was an obvious minion play and not a demon play.. good game
Witch on a Zombuul script for day 1 kill seems bonkers for Halloween.
Daddy Ben is the man
Hey, I have a couple edge case Vortox questions
How would a Nightwatchman interact with the Vortox? Would a poisoned Nightwatchman in a Vortox game work correctly?
Would an evil townsfolk ability function properly under Vortox?
In a Vortox game, the Nightwatchman would pick someone and that player would learn that a different player is the Nightwatchman, or that the Nightwatchman is a different character. Basically anything but the one truth that the Nightwatchman is the Nightwatchman.
Vortox does not discern any difference based on the Townsfolk's alignment. It's all always false. - Ben
@@BloodontheClocktower Thanks Ben!
Ben! Only 1 witch kill? Very sad about that.
😂
If a Vigormortis has killed one of its minions, and gets turned into a different demon, does the dead minion keep its power, or lose it upon the switch?
Because the Vigormortis has gone out of play (i.e. no longer exists), their ability also goes out of play. This means that the minion would lose their ability at this point.
Wooooooo! DOTA! That was not what I thought would come up in one of these videos :P
can a minion claim Klutz when they died?
*Anyone* can claim Klutz when they die. :)
Chad taric supporter he is still a support
Doesn't the person who survives "lose" Russian Roulette?
Can someone explain to me Ekins game plan? I understand being the mutant you have to lie but since the mutant is a good player why would they intentionally try and get other possible good players executed? Especially when the only real sus on that player is the mutants lie?
Broadly, the only consistent tool at the Good Team's disposal is executions. Good Teams that tend to be execution-happy (even if the majority of those executions are good players, which they almost certainly will be) tend to stand a higher chance of winning, as they give themselves as many chances as possible at killing minions and the demon. Personally, in most cases, I'd rather execute a player at random than no player at all. As far as Ekin's strategy here goes, he may have picked up on something that made him want to have particular players executed, or he may have just wanted *someone* executed, and so he lied to make it happen.
- Evin
Also note that Ekin was pushing on the person he thought was double claiming Ben, if he thought that Ben was reading socially good then it makes sense to push on Dakota. He is also in a better position than most to know whether someone is lying despite being good as he is the one player who knows who the mutant is. It also might allow him to soak up a demon kill as he's acting like a real Oracle, and as far as he knows he wouldn't have to make up false info as he could just pass it on from Ben
Twilight Imperium is the best!
I know a crazy combination of characters... Vortox, Lunatic, Twins, Mezepheles, Magician...
That mixed with whatever characters you want, but I chose Pixie, Savant, Philosopher, Alchemist and Mathematician.
It's crazy, because if you have the Lunatic believing that he has the good twin as a minion and the magician as the other then you have every evil person believing that the magician is part of their team. Mixed with the Vortox being unknown to even the Minions, that and picking Mezepheles as the minion known to the Vortox, makes the Vortox makes him think that he's the lunatic which is just amazing!!
I have a question, why didnt Jamie die on the final day after nominating Ben? Shouldnt he have been cursed and caused a win condition for evil?
If you take a closer look at the Witch's ability, you'll notice that it ceases to function when only 3 players are left alive. - Ben
@@BloodontheClocktower Oh!! I completely missed that! Thanks a bunch
At 37:00 I knew who won the game.
She was lied to lol. The dreamer never saw her.
I really don't understand Ekin's gameplan. Ekin created such a massive amount of chaos and confusion for the good team for literally nothing.
Ekin believed that Dakota was double claiming Ben, so that's why he pushed on Dakota. Ekin claimed to be a spent seamstress because he's a Mutant and has to make some sort of townsfolk claim.
That’s how Mutant works, if you break madness then the good team’s execution for that day is wasted on killing you. He came out as soon as he died, undoing his “damage”
the constant misgendering made this video a little hard to enjoy but its been some time, hopefully people have learned x3
I think this was pretty shortly after they started including pronouns in their discord names. I remember one stream in particular where chat was really on Ben about someone's pronouns. (I don't remember who). But in the more recent games, people seem to be more used to each others preferred pronouns.
@@hillrp1 that’s lovely to hear thank you for telling me!