MTS is studying the fare system and it might point to an updated Cubic fare system or a brand new supplier. Stored value is coming to the current system, but not much else is to be expected until a new system arrives. Compass Cloud in the meanwhile is coming later this year, so you can pay with your phone and use your phone as a pass. New system could include fare capping, account based system, mobile payments, contactless pay, ability to paygo (pay as you go using gift cards you could buy at a store). Maybe a new system could enhance Compass Cloud by reading the barcode from your phone to validate your fare. New system has to be up in 2021, but probably before then as the Mid Coast trolley extension needs ticket machines, and they will likely be of the latest technology.
They removed the compass card service from Albersons in Clairmont, and I live NOWHERE NEAR a trolley station. I tried loading it online. Money was deducted from my account but NEVER made it to the card. ...guess I need to fork up $40k for a used cars and $6:10 a gallon for gas. PLUS insurance and repairs (smh). Update: Customer service doesn't answer the phone. (They do for Canada, but US customers are clearly SOL)
Stored value is coming next month, if it goes to plan. You would be able to reload and ticket vending machines and at the Transit store, but a new fare system is being studied as the current Compass card system is horribly out of date.
This video is from 2013. It's now 2017 and it's still all talk. Nothing has improved. San Diego public transit is still difficult to take and you have to take care not to be stranded due to the limited times and changing schedules of transit runs.
Is kind of annoying you just transferring money to one card to another can i just link my debit or credit with compass card and add an app to be able to buy electronic tickets too
There is a compass Cloud app that can let you buy mobile tickets and you can load your card online. Next year MTS will decommission the Compass card in favor of Pronto a MTS wallet that can cap based on best price of the day.
Sdmt has set up transit in a predatory way. Unlike EVERY other large metro city I have lived in, san diego built its trolley stations as open air with no gates. Most cities require that the person pay first to even get onto the train and even the platform. Like BART. But san diego set this up in a way that allows anyone to just walk onto the train and enter the station without first paying. This requires sdmts to pay hundreds of glorified renta cops to shake down the riders and creates an opportunity for sdmts to fine riders who have not paid. When if the design was not intended to be predatory, the rider should not even have the opportunity to enter the train until they have paid. Myself for example have severe lupus and autism, in a hurry and flustered one day while not having my medication, 'I went to break a 20$ bill to load my card, but in the moment I honestly forgot to actually put the 5$ in the machine to load my card since the process of breaking the 20$bill registered incorrectly in my brain that I had already loaded my card. So I got on the train just before it left. Then a trolly cop approached me asked for my card, he scanned it and it showed I had not paid. When this happened I realized that I had gotten mixed up due to being flustered and explained myself and my medical condition, even showing the officer the four $5 bills that were in my pocket from the 20 I had just broken. So, about 4 officers surround me and escort me off the train as if I was wanted for treason or something... I pleaded with them for a warning stating that I am in a severe medical situation and disabled, even having a handicap placard but the officer told me "hes known amongst his peers as the hard ass who never gives breaks". Then proceeds to write me a $250 ticket. After stating that it only happened due to my brain medically malfunctioning and that I am unable to work due to my disability. I have lived in 5 large major metro cities and have NEVER seen such ABUSE. They set this up this way intentionally. If someone has a mental disorder and wanders onto the trolly.... then they have no right to fine them because they should not have been granted access to the service without paying first.
Logically there would be a fence and turnstile to walk through that scans your card to walk onto the trolly platform. Just like the zoo. Now with the facial recognition cameras I have seen a pack of 10 sdmts cops and sheriff's rush onto a trolley station in raid equipment and proceed to approach the riders on the platform in teams of 3 asking for to see their cards and IDENTIFICATION CARD. This proceeded for about 30 minutes with this pack of 10+ mixed sdmts/sheriffs, all wearing bulletproof that are equipped with facial recognition cameras, surrounding random riders and demanding ID... so, they never once realized and said to themselves, "if we require a paid card to enter the platform, then we wont need sheriff's in raid equipment to shake down people who were allowed to walk on the trolley in the first place. " something smells disturbingly unsettling about this. So what, the sherriff just sits there watching all the trolley stations and when facial recognition alerts they just all bum rush people?
They developed the trolly situations to be like choke points or honey pots for law enforcement rather than legitimate infrastructure intended to allow commuting efficiently.
Personally, I think that cities should use a tax system to pay for public transport, that way people can just board and get on and get to work, school, doctor appointments, etc. Charge a tax from people's pay check and provide a way to board at no charge, or for a lower cost, more riders, taxes are covering costs of the business, and if you have no charge, there is not need to have an expensive running fare box, just a balance sheet to help the economic growth of MTS and reduce emissions. It also attracts more tourists which draws in more city and state revenue.
Compass card is a good thing yet need to be improved. I have a compass card for day trip if I need to take the trolley or the bus. Yet I use it rarely.
San Diego's compass card don't come close to New York Meteo card. It CAN be used day to day without wasting ur fare money or u can get weekly too. Nice try san diego.
we are just getting them here in Vancouver, BC.
MTS is studying the fare system and it might point to an updated Cubic fare system or a brand new supplier. Stored value is coming to the current system, but not much else is to be expected until a new system arrives. Compass Cloud in the meanwhile is coming later this year, so you can pay with your phone and use your phone as a pass.
New system could include fare capping, account based system, mobile payments, contactless pay, ability to paygo (pay as you go using gift cards you could buy at a store). Maybe a new system could enhance Compass Cloud by reading the barcode from your phone to validate your fare.
New system has to be up in 2021, but probably before then as the Mid Coast trolley extension needs ticket machines, and they will likely be of the latest technology.
They removed the compass card service from Albersons in Clairmont, and I live NOWHERE NEAR a trolley station. I tried loading it online. Money was deducted from my account but NEVER made it to the card. ...guess I need to fork up $40k for a used cars and $6:10 a gallon for gas. PLUS insurance and repairs (smh).
Update: Customer service doesn't answer the phone. (They do for Canada, but US customers are clearly SOL)
Stored value is coming next month, if it goes to plan. You would be able to reload and ticket vending machines and at the Transit store, but a new fare system is being studied as the current Compass card system is horribly out of date.
This video is from 2013. It's now 2017 and it's still all talk. Nothing has improved. San Diego public transit is still difficult to take and you have to take care not to be stranded due to the limited times and changing schedules of transit runs.
It is getting better, as there is a new fare system in the works along with an optimization planned that has been partially implemented.
Is kind of annoying you just transferring money to one card to another can i just link my debit or credit with compass card and add an app to be able to buy electronic tickets too
There is a compass Cloud app that can let you buy mobile tickets and you can load your card online. Next year MTS will decommission the Compass card in favor of Pronto a MTS wallet that can cap based on best price of the day.
Sdmt has set up transit in a predatory way. Unlike EVERY other large metro city I have lived in, san diego built its trolley stations as open air with no gates. Most cities require that the person pay first to even get onto the train and even the platform. Like BART. But san diego set this up in a way that allows anyone to just walk onto the train and enter the station without first paying. This requires sdmts to pay hundreds of glorified renta cops to shake down the riders and creates an opportunity for sdmts to fine riders who have not paid. When if the design was not intended to be predatory, the rider should not even have the opportunity to enter the train until they have paid. Myself for example have severe lupus and autism, in a hurry and flustered one day while not having my medication, 'I went to break a 20$ bill to load my card, but in the moment I honestly forgot to actually put the 5$ in the machine to load my card since the process of breaking the 20$bill registered incorrectly in my brain that I had already loaded my card. So I got on the train just before it left. Then a trolly cop approached me asked for my card, he scanned it and it showed I had not paid. When this happened I realized that I had gotten mixed up due to being flustered and explained myself and my medical condition, even showing the officer the four $5 bills that were in my pocket from the 20 I had just broken. So, about 4 officers surround me and escort me off the train as if I was wanted for treason or something... I pleaded with them for a warning stating that I am in a severe medical situation and disabled, even having a handicap placard but the officer told me "hes known amongst his peers as the hard ass who never gives breaks". Then proceeds to write me a $250 ticket. After stating that it only happened due to my brain medically malfunctioning and that I am unable to work due to my disability. I have lived in 5 large major metro cities and have NEVER seen such ABUSE. They set this up this way intentionally. If someone has a mental disorder and wanders onto the trolly.... then they have no right to fine them because they should not have been granted access to the service without paying first.
Logically there would be a fence and turnstile to walk through that scans your card to walk onto the trolly platform. Just like the zoo. Now with the facial recognition cameras I have seen a pack of 10 sdmts cops and sheriff's rush onto a trolley station in raid equipment and proceed to approach the riders on the platform in teams of 3 asking for to see their cards and IDENTIFICATION CARD. This proceeded for about 30 minutes with this pack of 10+ mixed sdmts/sheriffs, all wearing bulletproof that are equipped with facial recognition cameras, surrounding random riders and demanding ID... so, they never once realized and said to themselves, "if we require a paid card to enter the platform, then we wont need sheriff's in raid equipment to shake down people who were allowed to walk on the trolley in the first place. " something smells disturbingly unsettling about this. So what, the sherriff just sits there watching all the trolley stations and when facial recognition alerts they just all bum rush people?
They developed the trolly situations to be like choke points or honey pots for law enforcement rather than legitimate infrastructure intended to allow commuting efficiently.
Personally, I think that cities should use a tax system to pay for public transport, that way people can just board and get on and get to work, school, doctor appointments, etc. Charge a tax from people's pay check and provide a way to board at no charge, or for a lower cost, more riders, taxes are covering costs of the business, and if you have no charge, there is not need to have an expensive running fare box, just a balance sheet to help the economic growth of MTS and reduce emissions. It also attracts more tourists which draws in more city and state revenue.
You know NCTD also use this?
Goodbye Compass, hello PRONTO!!
but in Vancouver we have the stored value option on ours.
We do now.
Compass card is a good thing yet need to be improved. I have a compass card for day trip if I need to take the trolley or the bus. Yet I use it rarely.
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Compass Card app soon please.
I don’t know why but they taking too danm long
San Diego's compass card don't come close to New York Meteo card. It CAN be used day to day without wasting ur fare money or u can get weekly too. Nice try san diego.
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