How To Get 350% Macro With Micro Four Thirds
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- Опубліковано 2 лип 2024
- For budget conscious macro photographers, there are several alternatives to achieve higher magnification. I demonstrate how a cheap 7Artisans 60mm macro lens in combination with extension tubes can achieve about 350% equivalent magnification.
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0:00 Intro
0:28 For Micro Four Thirds
0:50 E-M5 Mark III
1:06 7Artisans 60mm Macro
1:47 Extension Tubes
2:32 Macro Shooting 1
3:05 Measuring Magnification
4:46 Macro Shooting 2
5:10 Insect Macro Technique
6:57 Macro Shooting 3
7:19 Macro On Budget?
8:09 Conclusion/END
9:00 Bloopers
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Just. Wow. These are such beautiful macro images. Your colors and framing is gorgeous. Thanks for this video.
Thanks Otto, glad I can share!
Thanks. The Oly 60mm f/2.8 Macro is also a great lens (and not just for macros), yielding that more than sufficient 200% effective mag at a much lower price (especially used) compared to the 90mm.
Fantastic video! Love your channel. Thanks for informing us about budget options for really cool results!
Cheap setup; high quality images and as they say it's not the violin, it's the violinist. Cheers!!!
Thanks, that is very kind of you
My setup is very similar to yours, EN5mk3, Olympus 60mm macro and two extension tubes. I recently purchased the Raynox 250 to boost magnification. Being an enthusiast macro shooter I also find it difficult to pay over £1k for the new 90mm macro lens, perhaps Father Christmas will have room in his sack! Another great video please keep them coming. Best Peter
Thanks Peter, I agree with you, unless you earn some income from macro work, it is hard to justify spending so much on macro gear.
Amazing photos and explanation, as always 👍
I've started watching, and following, your videos about a year ago. I've been intrigued by them. I actually bought an Olympus digital camera last August. It's an E-600 that came with the 14-42 and 40-150 lens. I bought it used, but it only has 900 on the shutter count. I only paid $60 US. I'm a Canon full frame user as my main camera, but watching your videos made me look for an Olympus. I've taken some amazing shots it. I posted them on my Instagram page and got a lot of feedback from them. I'm surprised with the smaller sensor, the capabilities are great! Keep up the great work! Craig from the US.
Awesome, welcome to the Olympus world.
I think anyone shooting macro photography with micro four-thirds would love to get their hands on that new Olympus 90mm lens, but it is far too expensive for most people to ever consider. An excellent compromise is the Olympus 60 mm lens, which basically matches the manual focus lens that you have but still gives autofocus capability. It only cost 1/3 the price of the 90mm lens at around $400 US brand new. I believe I bought mine through one of the Olympus refurbished sales for around $300 a couple of years ago. Money well spent.
I got the 30mm Panasonic lens. It's
Thanks for another helpful video!
Thanks a lot for sharing your ideas and beautiful photos. Much apprecciated!
Thanks, I will continue to share more
Nice save! Amazing results for such a budget set up.
Yeah, we don't have to break the bank to enjoy photography
Love this video! Super helpful and inspiring!!
Thanks, I share what I can!
Thanks for the great micro 4/3 video and the excellent insect portraits.
I do a lot of close-up and macro work (pathology, flat artwork, flowers, insects, coins, jewelry, paper money).
For my 6x7cm medium format cameras, I use a macro lens and extension tubes.
For my full-frame and APS-C cameras, I use macro lenses, extension tubes, bellows, lens reversal rings, and supplemental close-up lenses.
Up to now, I have not needed the extra magnification a micro 4/3 camera would give me. However, I will keep it mind just in case my needs change.
Lovely photos thank you & good catch :)
Thanks Lecky!
Good catch! 😉
Superb shots!
Thanks!
Really cool technique! I know you mostly shoot macro handheld, but can you do a focus stacking video? Thanks!
Wow! Nice macro shots!
You got watch or not hahahah
@@robinwong I saw the images before I watch the video. Haha :D
Robin, I enjoy the Olympus 30mm macro - can get super close, or back out for the entire subject. I crop a lot too. Thanks for a great video. Cheers, Doug
Yes the 30mm macro is superb!
Hi Robin.. beautiful work as always. I do remember your original Insect macro video from a few years ago and I was always curious how you set up your camera settings as well as the remote flash system. I remember in the 70s when the OM2 film camera came out and the factory rep demonstrated TTL flash work to us (I was working in a camera shop) and it seemed like such advanced tech,,and then Minolta came out with wireless TTL flashes--Mind Blown!! If you circle back to macro stuff in the future seeing a run down of your settings would be a treat.
P.S.-- Having Olympus keep flash compatibility from past system generations is remarkable..NOBODY does that!!
Thanks Clint. I share every single setting including flash set up on that original video.
Great samples. I got interested in Olympus in 1973 for macro photography as a primary purpose. It’s a great system. I have many macro lenses including the 60mm macro I found used for about half price. Plus a Raynox 250 and Mieke extension tubes I’ve been able to get to extreme magnifications.
It may be strange to most people to relate the ratio 1:1 or 1:2 etc so your percentage is more relatable.
I point out to novices that when images were being submitted for publication, the ratio 1:1 for example, was used by editors to lay out specimen photos in proper relation to one another according to actual size. So the film being 36mm x 24mm could be sized correctly along side a digital image from micro four thirds 1:1 at 17.3mm x 13 mm.
Being able to publish a diagram of antique coins or stamps for example, showing actual size represented, requires knowledge of the process to know what magnification was used relative to 1:1.
Thanks Jeffrey for sharing your experience on magnification. Knowing them is important for macro shooting indeed!
Hooo, that was a close one! Nice catch!!
Can't break the glass if there isn't any.
Yeah scared me for a moment
Wow Amazing photos Robin. I now have various options open to me with macro photography and currently experimenting. I have Olympus 60mm macro, similar Kenko extension rings, a Raynox 250 and now the OM System 90mm macro. My lighting is both Flash and LED as well as natural lighting at usually a high ISO. My flash lighting is a customised system using Nissin Flash lights and transmitter with both a fixed assembly on camera and the option to detach the flash very quickly and mount on a ground spike or hand held. Weather in UK is awful right now but intend to get out with my macro kit in the near future. Keep on posting great video clips Robin and let me know if you ever wish to come to London 😊😊
Thanks Brian for the kind invitation, I will sure look you up if I happen to be in London. Quite an extensive macro setup you have! I need to get more LED lights to experiment. Will be searching around soon.
I'm currently using the Olympus 50mm F2 ED Macro lens with adapter on em1 body.
What brand of light diffuser are you using in this video?? Great info in the video. Thank you, Jim
Hi Robin, can you do a retro review of the Olympus 50mm Macro f2?
Your channel is great, I love your videos :)
I Robin, I'm a beginner on macro.. Cool photos! Are you using focus stacking system?
Another awesome video, Robin! I also don’t think the 90mm is worth it at that exorbitant price. The 60mm + $75 Raynox attachment is plenty sufficient, even for serious macro shooters.
Thanks Christopher, my thoughts too
Hello again Robin. I used to watch u during pandemic
Good stuff Robin. Living in the very very lower southern California desert area, I have to search pretty hard in my backyard for bugs. And then if I see bugs ... my kitty beats me to them and EATS them!!! You say "meeky" I thought it was pronounced "mikey" I have those extension tubes too. Cheers! Randy
I am sure as the weather gets warmer there will be more creatures to shoot!
Hi Robin, would the Olympus RL36-r be suitable for this. I’ve been taking a few photos without flash but am now going to try getting a budget flash to try! Also, would you ever use focus stacking for your insect photography? I’ve tried it on some flowers and will be trying it on insects with my EM1 mk2 and 60mm macro lens!
Thanks for highlighting a low cost option. Many UA-camrs are only talking about expensive gear.
By the way, for a 2x lens, there is the Laowa 50mm f2.8. It is similar in size to the Oly 60mm. I am still pondering why the new OM lens is so big as well as expensive.
Thanks Michael, indeed Laowa makes great lenses. I am sure the 50mm macro is a fantastic lens, but it is also not on the budget territory either!
@@robinwong Sure, the Laowa 50mm is about the same price as the Oly 60mm. The next level up in pricing.
The range of lenses for m43 is amazing.
Hi Robin, I agree with you if you say the new 90mm macro is overpriced as what it is. Personally I use the 60mm together with the distance rings you shown here and the Raynox 250. Its a bit more expensive compared to the lens you use here, but I can focus-stack in the camera and don't wanna miss this feature. Can hardly believe the pure 90mm will deliver much better pictures.
Thanks Michael. Lenstip shows the 60mm is sharper, so you are right, 90mm won't deliver better pictures.
Hey Robin, can these be used to extend the reach of a zoom, for example on the 40-150 to photograph or film the moon?
How do you keep your sensor clean with frequent lens changes and changing extension tubes? I primarily shoot macro and usually around 2-2.5x. I’m afraid to change lenses and have to deal with sensor dust. I’m extremely careful and still have issues sometimes.
I'm using the Olympus 60mm macro lens. If necessary, I have an old Minolta bellows, which has up to 200 mm stepless extension and three old special Minolta macro/micro lenses for the bellows. Somebody did me build a Nikon adapter at the end of the bellows (makes a Nikon bayonet instead a Minolta bayonet at the end of the bellows ). With a Nikon to Olympus adapter (Nikon lenses on Olympus camera bodies), I can use the Olympus m43 camera bodies. With that I can magnify up to 10 times (If I would apply the crop factor as done in this video, it will be up to 20 times). But at this scale the depth of field is so tiny, that a tripod and the macro sledge of the bellows are obligatory. Moving creatures practically can't be photographed at such a large magnification.
I also think that having too much magnification is counter-productive as the shooting process become infinitely more challenging. I usually don't go to full 100% magnification, unless necessary.
May I suggest using the "inexpensive" to describe a good lense that doesn't cost much. "Cheap" has the connotation of badly made or not very good. I enjoy your videos, keep them coming.
Hi, excellent video, I use a Laowa 50 mm f2.8 2x lens for mft, not as cheap as this but 2x magnification with stunning image quality , it is worth you investigating some time
The Laowa macro lens is great I am sure, and as you said, it is not a budget set up!
Beautiful pictures! which flash are you using?
FL50R
can i use those extension tubes for the lumix g vario 14-42 mm 3.5 lens?
If I want to shoot macro of things from far away like feather on bird, any method to achieve it? Sony has a 70-200mm F4 OSS G MACRO II with 2X tele converter can get to 1:1 macro, is it possible to use these and extension tube to get that reach of macro?
Equivalence is extremely misleading when it comes to macro photography. 100% (or 1:1) simply means that the real object will be projected the same size on the sensor. For instance, 10mm of the real object will project 10mm on the sensor. 200% means that 10mm will be 20mm on the sensor. There is no reason to use equivalence, in my opinion. But thanks for another useful video, as usual.
We need a reference, and in this case 35mm format becomes the reference. Same as 25mm lens, while true focal length is 25mm, we say it is equivalent to 50mm in 35mm format, so there is consistency when we measure/compare reach and framing. Similarly with magnification, same 100% magnification, but with 2x crop, you get twice more magnification in 35mm format.
Unless of course, you don't care about a reference, then you talk about compact cameras having 3mm-24mm lens which in no way anyone would know what kind of width or length they represent, unless someone clearly stated (equals to 28mm to 200mm zoom)
@@robinwong I think you are wrong here. Let’s say first that the minimum focus distance depends on the distance between the lens and the sensor, and it’s the same regardless of the sensor size. At the closest distance, with a m43 you will get a smaller portion of the object on the frame due to the 2x crop, but the magnification will still be the same as on a full frame sensor. On the full frame you will get a bigger part of the object on the frame, but just because the sensor is bigger, not because there is less magnification.
We might be fooled about thinking how many pixels a part of the object will end up covering, but we have to ignore that, as this is related to the sensor pixel count and not the magnification
I have used many different closeup lenses/filters, macro converters, and extension tubes too. More often I use just my M.Zuiko 30mm Macro lens nowadays.
I must get very close to my subjects with it, Many of them I just scare away but usually I can find some small insects or spiders which are brave and curious individuals and I get nice photos of these. Jumping spiders are my favorites.
Thanks Jari for sharing. 30mm is a great lens, the only downside is having to go very close, as you have mentioned.
I remember one spider which went first to some Hiding Place when camera game near it. But I did wait for a while and spider game back. Curiosity was stronger than fear.
Or just get the 4/3 35mm macro and a the converter ring. That’s a 1:3.5 as well.
Thanks for sharing. I have an amazing 5X macro lens from Laowa; however, my main struggle has always to do with keeping insects in focus long enough as they continue to move or get scared when I close in on them. I just don't get how you can manage to get so close without scaring them off!
I guess the 5x macro gets too close, my setup allows me some distance to work with.
@@robinwong thank you, my struggle is the same even with a 1:1 setup on a 100mm Macro. I guess our insects here are more scared of humans than in Malaysia 😄
Incredible photos!
Question about magnifying ratio: is it really fair to say "35mm equivalent magnification"? Equivalent focal length is doubled when using m43, of course, but I don't understand why magnification doubling is a thing. If you're recording 17.3mm wide image filling up a 17.3mm wide sensor, to me that's still a 1:1 ratio, no?
Not when you take 35mm as a reference, so 17mm vs 35mm, that is double the magnification. Similarly, we talk about Olympus 25mm lens, while 25mm is the true focal length, but we also admit that it is equivalent to 50mm in 35mm format. Simple as that, so we have a common, standardized photography language.
I have an old Lumix G7 that's also m43. I assume the extension tubes are compatible with that mount, but does anyone know if the lens also will work with that body?
Yes it works.
Do you think the 45mm f1.8 Olympus lens would work well with macro tubes?
Btw I was in a camera shop here in the uk today and heard someone mention Robin Wong!
The 45mm has a pretty poor magnification factor at its closest focusing distance, 0.11x. I would try a lens with a bigger magnification factor.
Yes, if you watch my previous video on the extension tubes I used the 45mm lens.
I wonder whether you have sold your Olympus 60mm and replaced it with this 7Artisans so haven't included the former in your top 5 M43 lens video?
I guess 60mm macro in combination with extension tubes (or Raynox 250) can more or less achieve the magnification ratio of the new OM 90mm but not the working distance.
IMO, not only the OM 90mn, new lens from OMDS (e.g. the earlier 40-150mm F4 Pro) are always overpriced with different degrees.
I never had the 60mm macro from Olympus. It was on loan when I was involved with them
Is stabilisation working with this third party lens?
Yes it does
@@robinwong thank you very much :)
Are these photos stacked?
No, they were single shots.
@@robinwong I wondered the same... that is very impressive for single shots! But doesn't the E-M5 III also have focus stacking built in? :)
Why not use the 60mm olympus lens for this?
Because I don't have one and I can't just buy a lens that does not make me any money?
Great fun, Robin. However, sorry to be pedantic, but true Macro photography = 0% magnificent! By definition "Macro" is the technical term for absolutely distortion-free 1-to-1 imaging, suitable for scientific or forensic analysis. So, Robin, by definition although beautiful, your hight-magnification pictures (especially those taken with a distorting extension tube) are the very antithesis of what you're calling "macro", and you lose the bet 🤣 😉 😜.
BTW, does anyone know the correct term for what is often erroneously called "macro" photography? 🤷♂️
There is no glass in an extension tube, no lens, nothing. Impossible to distort.
Macrophotography or Photomacrography consists of images captured in the reproduction ratio range of 1:1 to 35:1.
The reproduction ratio is the size of the actual subject relative to the size of the subject’s image on the surface of the film or on the surface of the digital camera’s image sensor.
A reproduction ratio of 1:1 means that the image and the subject are the same size (life-size).
A reproduction ratio of 35:1 means that the image formed in the camera is magnified so that it is 35 times larger than the size of the actual object being photographed (35 times life-size).
The 1:1 to 35:1 macrophotography or photomacrography range is not carved in stone. Some photographers define the range as 1:2 to 40:1. Others define it as greater than life-size up to 20 times life-size.
Photomicrography is capturing images through a microscope. These images usually have a reproduction ratio that ranges from 16:1 to 450:1. This ratio range is also not carved in stone.
1) Get some sandpaper, grind out the hole of the extenstion tube until MC20 or MC14 fit inside.
700% easy (quality suffers a bit)
2) get Raynox DCR-250 and put on 40-150 or 100-400 -> 5x and up -> add extenstion tube and MC20 -> 20x and up
3) Mikroskopobjektiv PLAN X Planachromat 10x NA 0,25 RMS this is where it gets difficult
All of a sudden I feel so cheap...
Much much cheaper to just buy a vintage Pentax 100mm f4 macro with extension tubes.
You won't be able to find it here. And if you do, Pentax used items are incredibly expensive.
Robin, I don't want to be so clever, but why don't you use the lens from the photo enlarger?
as the cheapest macro lens.
They should be so razor sharp..🪒