The Daleks! (whats next?) & Infiltration of the Daleks S2 Breakdown

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  • @forcedalek
    @forcedalek  Рік тому +9

    Check out the Survey ! - forms.gle/4zrzw8559V5jDRuk7
    0:00 Intro
    0:26 New Daleks
    5: 20 Infiltration Speculation
    My main theory for these Daleks are that they are the creators behind the impurity as they dawn the same red eye!

    • @jonathangrindell1335
      @jonathangrindell1335 Рік тому

      @forcedalek If you mind me asking, Can you also make What Jenny the Doctors Daughter came back in Series 11 Episode 2 and traveled with the thirteenth doctor?

    • @jonathangrindell1335
      @jonathangrindell1335 Рік тому

      When will you finish making my What if video requests and when will they be uploaded?

  • @paulo9991
    @paulo9991 Рік тому +73

    I don't think we need a drastic redesign. Just paint the bronze Daleks silver and give them blue orbs again.

    • @forcedalek
      @forcedalek  Рік тому +3

      That would definitely look great! They could also make some small alterations like the base or the dome lights

    • @paulo9991
      @paulo9991 Рік тому +5

      @@forcedalek I don''t know. I'd bring back the different coloured domes and casing markings though.
      I.E.
      * Black dome Daleks guard Daleks of importance. (Evil of the Daleks)
      * Blue dome Daleks guard objects of importance. (The Chase)
      * Red domes?

    • @BentheDalek
      @BentheDalek Рік тому +2

      No I definitely think we need a new design. The current one has been used so much, we need a redesign.

    • @paulo9991
      @paulo9991 Рік тому +3

      @@BentheDalek bring back the paradigm daleks !

    • @k-dogstudios827
      @k-dogstudios827 Рік тому

      I personally feel like they should give them a black and gold colour scheme but give some of them terrifying manipulator arms. Also I will miss the bronze daleks as I've grown up with them since I was five.

  • @bundallicious
    @bundallicious Рік тому +14

    the images of the modern daleks painted in classic colours with smaller bulbs looked really cool, especially the ones at 1:42

    • @forcedalek
      @forcedalek  Рік тому +1

      They are truly fantastic! Credit for all the concepts are in the description, but yeah a design like this would be brilliant and I can see it working with Ncutis style of Doctor Who!

    • @lesigh1749
      @lesigh1749 Рік тому +1

      Those do look fantastic. They are like a new series revamp of the original Dead planet Daleks without the slats around the shoulders.

    • @forcedalek
      @forcedalek  Рік тому +1

      @@lesigh1749 they’re brilliant! I really hope RTD2 uses designs similar

  • @oakguard
    @oakguard Рік тому +11

    I feel daleks should at least preserve the future tanky design maybe have some more emphasis on the optics and maybe add thermals or futuristic equivalent they also fight the Cybermen alot so maybe they've got special changes they made to fight them

    • @forcedalek
      @forcedalek  Рік тому +1

      What’s your favourite design of the Daleks so far?

  • @magtegi2
    @magtegi2 5 місяців тому +1

    do not expect the bbc to provide us with anything. I'm happy dalek fan animations have visually eclipsed what came before the true potential of the daleks will never be explored by the BBC
    the true potential terry nations creations can only be explored by the community

  • @jeanannd
    @jeanannd Рік тому +5

    What I'd like to see is a group of Daleks that flee, find their own world and create a new society for themselves, with no need to conquer and free from their less enlightened kin.

    • @forcedalek
      @forcedalek  Рік тому +2

      I really think the way forward is to follow a small group of Daleks. What did you think of the series 3 dalek story?

    • @jeanannd
      @jeanannd Рік тому

      @@forcedalek - Interesting!

    • @forcedalek
      @forcedalek  Рік тому

      @@jeanannd I wish the cult of skaro lead the s4 finale a bit more, but I get why it went where it did

  • @rory4127
    @rory4127 Рік тому +5

    At the moment i feel that daleks are suffering from success, they have "no weaknesses" and are "the deadliest creatures of the universe", i would love the focus to shift into the malice of the daleks, the experiments and the horror potential, eg daleks of manhattan, blood of the daleks, time of the daleks, and The Monster of Montmartre, i know some of them are big finish stories but i feel like they superbly explore the horror scifi angle that the daleks provide.

    • @forcedalek
      @forcedalek  Рік тому +2

      I completely agree, and in-fact have just recorded a video on that exact topic, which includes talks of both the series 3 story and blood of the Daleks!
      So stay tuned for that video LATER TODAY, it’s definitely one you will enjoy!

    • @forcedalek
      @forcedalek  Рік тому +1

      Just uploaded the video talking about this kinda thing, feel free to go check it out!

    • @rory4127
      @rory4127 Рік тому

      @@forcedalek sounds awesome I'll check it out asap

  • @robertdefoe2396
    @robertdefoe2396 Рік тому +6

    Would be better if the daleks didn't keep losing all the time. That would make them a far more formidable foe for the doctor to go against.

    • @forcedalek
      @forcedalek  Рік тому +2

      Oh 100% In fact I've just uploaded a video about this kinda thing, feel free to check it out

  • @Discotekh_Dynasty
    @Discotekh_Dynasty Рік тому +7

    I really like the secondary sensor clusters

  • @Bobby90
    @Bobby90 Рік тому +9

    Always thought/hoped mission specific casings would become a thing. if only spider Daleks.

    • @forcedalek
      @forcedalek  Рік тому

      Definitely agree, the next era really needs to work on more dalek designs with special purposes, what one would you create if you could?

    • @Bobby90
      @Bobby90 Рік тому

      @@forcedalek Be nice if they could just put things on pause for a few years and do a soft reboot. Stop doing "Mystery Box" BS.

  • @RingandRaven
    @RingandRaven Рік тому +1

    I fully agree Daleks should move away from the tank look and towards the sleeker - though tbh the Witches Familiar shows a 100% classic design holds up and looks good as long as its made to a high quality (and not wobbly or dented). Definitely need to move away from the bronze, bring back the silver and give us metallic coloured livery (the Paradigm repaints actually had gorgeous colours but by that point they were already abandoned).
    Most important is that the Daleks be portrayed as living character sand not emotionless / one emotion drones. Daleks in Manhatten / Evolution of the Daleks was actually brilliant at this, even if they're not my favourite stories. Honestly Chibnall era Dalek writing is actually quite good for this too, even if I have....*opinions* on the rest of it.

  • @snakedaemongaming6590
    @snakedaemongaming6590 Рік тому +1

    They should use the unused 90s design
    Anniversary throw back variant

  • @joemclaughlin3385
    @joemclaughlin3385 Рік тому +3

    I really hope we finally get a new dalek design in the RTD2 era. Gotta to admit the thumbnail of this video of white and red daleks with the needles looks amazing.
    Please just this time for real retire the 2005 bronze daleks forever. we have had them for far too long!
    Its just these daleks have been getting overused all over again and again! its getting really boring nowadays they been defeated so many times they been treated like a joke. The daleks are not really that scary anymore like there were back in 2000's on the RTD1.
    Other doctor Who monsters/aliens/villains don't keep bringing there old designs just like they keep doing with the daleks.
    have new designs like the Cybermen, Sontarans, Judoon, Ice Warriors, Zygons, Sea Devils.
    I have few ideas what they can do for the daleks.
    If they redesign daleks they could make like new special weapon daleks design. or new thing they could do with the daleks is they could use their eyestalk as a scanner to find anyone hiding from them. or maybe Nicholas Briggs can try to make them sound different like deeper scary demonic voice for them.
    I just hope don't waste this new dalek design just like they have been doing with both 2010 paradigm daleks and mutant 2019/2021 daleks.

    • @forcedalek
      @forcedalek  Рік тому +1

      I think using multiple voice actors for the Daleks would be great

    • @joemclaughlin3385
      @joemclaughlin3385 Рік тому

      @forcedalek Yeah, I suppose Nicholson Briggs has been the best voice for both daleks and cybermen.

  • @badwolf66
    @badwolf66 Рік тому +5

    What makes you think this design will be in series 14?

    • @forcedalek
      @forcedalek  Рік тому +2

      Nowhere in the video do I say this red/white design will be in series 14!
      Sort A of this video discusses how I think RTD2 should handle the Daleks and part B discusses the red/white Daleks in the fan series infiltration of the Daleks

    • @Twenteen2
      @Twenteen2 Рік тому +2

      @@forcedalek You said the were the new teased design for the series...

    • @forcedalek
      @forcedalek  Рік тому

      @@Twenteen2 In the video I say there are teased designs for the new series of infiltration of the Daleks, this is all explained in the intro of the video. Hope this helps :)

    • @legobi_wan_kenobi
      @legobi_wan_kenobi Рік тому +5

      ​@@forcedalekso it's clickbait?
      You really make it seem like the white and gold design was some kind of official leak, that's really confusing.

    • @forcedalek
      @forcedalek  Рік тому +1

      @@legobi_wan_kenobi I really didn’t..
      The literal intro of the video explains how the first part is discussing the future of the Daleks and the second is speculation on a dalek fan film, not my fault you didn’t listen to the part of the video that explains the content 🤷‍♂️

  • @greenscreenfx3117
    @greenscreenfx3117 Рік тому +1

    I really like the new designs

  • @BreezerBigB
    @BreezerBigB 6 місяців тому

    Love the white and red colour scheme, am a big fan of davros's Imperial Daleks white and gold scheme

  • @MrStaypufty
    @MrStaypufty Рік тому

    I think that we not only need a drastic redesign of the daleks but also dor the daleks to break apart into splinter factions all vying for dominance and control.
    The Renegades and Imperials joined together to fight in the Time War. But the Time War has been over for a long time now and the Daleks have lost their touch. Bring in the redesigned pepper shakers along with a faction or two that thinks "peace through supremacy" or "dominance through power" and suddenly there's a whole new level of fear. Instead of going around with circular logic like "I'm superior cause I say so" they utilize "I'm superior cause I'm better than you" or "I'm killing you to save everyone else" and suddenly you have daleks on a power trip or on a righteous crusade of belief and that's FAR more terrifying as its realistic.

  • @alwynwatson6119
    @alwynwatson6119 10 місяців тому

    The idea of experimental Dalek forms reminds me a bit of a nightmare child from the time war.

  • @Sigurd-r5
    @Sigurd-r5 Рік тому +1

    Additional voice actors for the Daleks would give them extra pazazz

  • @9crutnacker985
    @9crutnacker985 Рік тому

    I'm intrigued.

  • @zjoncoleman3218
    @zjoncoleman3218 Рік тому +2

    Where's the design at 1:42 from?

    • @forcedalek
      @forcedalek  Рік тому +2

      twitter.com/ThePrydonian?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor (also in the description)

  • @WTSD850
    @WTSD850 7 місяців тому

    heres some ideas a return to the supreme council with is basically every supreme dalek from throughout history, and their brought together by the dalek time stratigesit who's survived the time war and is looking to become the new dalek emporer. theres aso the idea of brining back dalek concept art as alternate universe daleks. and finally finally davros joins and takes control of the cybermen the daleks try to fight them with armies of robomen but find out that they've simply made an army of cybermen waiting to be taken control of by the cyberiad

  • @Phase52012
    @Phase52012 11 місяців тому

    It's Season 1 now. Can't confuse the Americans who watch Disney+.

  • @TomoBakerinio
    @TomoBakerinio Рік тому +1

    Tbh, I'd love it if the Series 14 finale was with Davros. But then I feel like people would think that its just a Series 4 approach. But idk

    • @studioshitaketakashita7093
      @studioshitaketakashita7093 Рік тому

      but hey - let's put on a new twist. This time - Davros - he's black. And he's gay as a canary

    • @TomoBakerinio
      @TomoBakerinio Рік тому

      @@studioshitaketakashita7093 Bro thats racist.

    • @zaibian7
      @zaibian7 Рік тому

      ​@@TomoBakerinio I thought it was homophobic, and a good idea. I'd also make him a transgender Muslim with Daddy issues... played by Richard Ayoade. He already has the disability and old fart angle covered.

  • @borusa32
    @borusa32 Рік тому +3

    I could not disagree more. Look at the disaster of the paradigm Daleks.

    • @the_greenwood551
      @the_greenwood551 Рік тому

      But the problem was that their colors make them look like toys and of course the design of the Paradigm Daleks wasn't that great.

  • @alwynwatson6119
    @alwynwatson6119 10 місяців тому

    I wonder if at any point they’re going to do my idea of the Daleks producing a regeneration energy virus during the time war that the doctor has to deal with.

  • @Gary-Seven-and-Isis-in-1968
    @Gary-Seven-and-Isis-in-1968 Рік тому +1

    The idea that any and every change must therefore be an improvement hasn't done much good so far.
    New Daleks = New Merch ? No, because nobody is making Doctor Merch anymore, it simply doesn't
    sell when the fanbase is this small now.

    • @forcedalek
      @forcedalek  Рік тому

      Dalek changes aren’t needed for Merch, they’re needed because the Daleks feel stale now. The main things the Daleks need are new stories

  • @Enkidone
    @Enkidone Рік тому

    There's still the mystery of the Dalek Eternal...

    • @forcedalek
      @forcedalek  Рік тому

      I’m sure big finish will get to it at some point. What’s your favourite dalek story?

    • @Enkidone
      @Enkidone Рік тому

      @@forcedalek I have a fondness for Asylum of the Daleks, purely for the idea. An entire prison world filled to bursting in insane daleks that even they cannot control...
      ...And then we get to 'Intensive Care'. An entire ward of Daleks that have 'survived' the Doctor.

  • @ParakoEPC
    @ParakoEPC Рік тому

    1:43 prydonian holding you at gunpoint now for using an image of his dalek models without permission…

  • @ekij133
    @ekij133 Рік тому

    The _design_ of the Daleks is less important than the story. We need to see a story where the Daleks win or at least have a partial win. We need to see that they are a _superior_ race and credible threat. No more 'Donna turns a dial and makes them all spin' nonsense. Maybe the Daleks exterminate a companion or the Doctor thwarts what he thinks was their plan only to discover it was a side-quest intended to distract him from their main objective which they succeed with. Or even a whole spin-off type episode with very little doctor at all where we see the Daleks WIN when the doctor isn't there to stop them.
    That said it would be nice to see a few variants of the NSD/2005 design, even if it was just a few alternate colour schemes.

  • @brookhammerbrook3306
    @brookhammerbrook3306 Рік тому +6

    The Daleks needs a long long long long long long long long long long long term break. We don't need them in the new series and honestly don't want them to return. They have been around in the NEW Series for far too long. Look at Tom Baker era, they have 2 daleks stories over his 7 year run

    • @brookhammerbrook3306
      @brookhammerbrook3306 Рік тому

      In fact WHY don't they skip a Doctor?? They did it with Paul McGann in the TV Movie, so why not skip the 15th Doctor and move on to the 16th?. Not every Doctor needs to encounter the Daleks

    • @forcedalek
      @forcedalek  Рік тому +2

      While I think a break would be good, a break wouldn’t FIX the issue with the Daleks. What’s needed is new stories which are more experimental as discussed in the video.
      But honestly I too would prefer them NOT to be in series 14 and saved for say the 14th Doctors final series would is probably more towards 2026, but I don’t think that’s gonna happen

    • @forcedalek
      @forcedalek  Рік тому

      @@brookhammerbrook3306 I feel every doctor needs a dalek adventure, but what you’re saying would work if they have 15 a single story with a single dalek like ‘dalek’

    • @theunfamousone2818
      @theunfamousone2818 Рік тому +1

      Don't the Daleks have to return in some form so they can keep the copyright or something

    • @forcedalek
      @forcedalek  Рік тому

      @@theunfamousone2818 there are easy ways around that like the small cameo in series 6

  • @PepsiChips87
    @PepsiChips87 Рік тому

    After me redesigning Daleks so many times

  • @robi6317
    @robi6317 Рік тому

    i mean, they're no Terminator

  • @VJFranzK
    @VJFranzK Рік тому

    daleks could be narrow if built this time as wheeled drones

    • @forcedalek
      @forcedalek  Рік тому

      That would be epic! A more sleek design like with some of the concepts in this video would be fantastic!
      Out of the existing designs whats your favourite?

    • @VJFranzK
      @VJFranzK Рік тому

      ​@@forcedalek As a rediscovering US fan, I guess I like new-Who Bronze Daleks best? Thought recent Earth-rebuilt one was interesting. Both Emperors interestingly expanded on the theme. Didn't like "Dalek assimilated humans" because... too easy. (if they had that tech, wouldn't it have nano-spread over every planet by now?) I like really weird designs, so hope for more of those... "Ironsides" were hilarious!

  • @iangreen4572
    @iangreen4572 Рік тому

    I'm not sure Terry Nation would be Happy

  • @Kremmen2001
    @Kremmen2001 Рік тому +1

    just more fanwank?

  • @andrewdreasler428
    @andrewdreasler428 Рік тому

    4:38 "Unecpected acts of Dalek mercy"? "Keep audience members guessing about the true nature of these fearsome adversaries"?
    The Daleks always have been, and always will be, at their core, literal Space Nutzis In Tin Cans.
    Their goal? It will always be some variation of "exterminate anything that is not a True Dalek," With the definition of "True Dalek" varying as to whether or not to include rival factions or experiments, or whether or not they appreciate the 'beauty' of the Doctor's undiluted Hatred towards them, a hatred that may even exceed their own hatred of all non-Dalek life.

    • @forcedalek
      @forcedalek  Рік тому +1

      For all of the Daleks of course it will always default back to their core beliefs, but I think it would be interesting to explore some solo Daleks which differ from this like Dalek Sec and Caan :)

    • @andrewdreasler428
      @andrewdreasler428 Рік тому

      @forcedalek oh, of course, it's always interesting to see how different sects within the dalek forces react and interact with each other. But the video was alluding to a shift in the basic dalek personality.
      We love the daleks because we can hate them without reservation: they are space Nutzis, one of the few mustache-twirling, irredeemable villains left. We are free to cheer when even the (relatively) kindest among them is destroyed, and we can revel in the creative carnage of a novel execution.
      And when they DO get to join in on a joke, it's priceless:
      "Hariet Jones, former Prime Minister."
      "*Yes*we*know*who*you*are*"
      I was laughing so hard from that, I completely missed her speech after that and had to wait for a rerun (forgot to set the DVR.)

  • @jamiebowler4693
    @jamiebowler4693 10 місяців тому

    Don’t think we’ll see them in s14 I think they need a season off.

  • @garyfinn8772
    @garyfinn8772 Рік тому

    Lego daleks😊

    • @forcedalek
      @forcedalek  Рік тому

      We need a doctor who lego game!

  • @PaulTaylor1
    @PaulTaylor1 Рік тому +7

    I feel like you've been watching a different Doctor Who than the utter pish that's been on our screens for the last two seasons. You've obviously got a lot of faith in RTD2 but all I've heard about so far is drag queens and trans ideology. 😞

  • @iangreen4572
    @iangreen4572 Рік тому

    They redesigned the Daleks into the Paradigm Daleks and they were rubbish

  • @infinityzer054
    @infinityzer054 Рік тому

    Vantablack daleks

  • @SkepticalChris
    @SkepticalChris Рік тому +1

    Rather pointless to redesign the Daleks since the doctor's plot armour never makes them a true credible threat. The only way to change the Daleks is to change their behaviour into three dimensional personalities but that would go against everything they represented before.

    • @forcedalek
      @forcedalek  Рік тому

      I somewhat agree, and that’s what a portion of this video is about!
      Do you think the darks should return in series 14 or be kept away for longer?

    • @SkepticalChris
      @SkepticalChris Рік тому

      @@forcedalek honestly I haven't watched the show since Victory of the Daleks.
      But if they made the Daleks individualistic with names and more clever plots, able to look beyond just exterminating, then they would be a far more credible threat and truly sinister with the ability to fool and outwit the doctor. And they should bring back the Paradigm Daleks as an officer class for the Daleks. They already got the props for them.

    • @forcedalek
      @forcedalek  Рік тому

      @@SkepticalChris I agree, we need a small group of Daleks each unique

    • @dikkie1000
      @dikkie1000 Рік тому

      @@forcedalek A rebirth of the Cult of Skaro then?

  • @studioshitaketakashita7093
    @studioshitaketakashita7093 Рік тому

    to fit in with the new season - the daleks now hafta be black - and gay

  • @1000guy1
    @1000guy1 Рік тому

    Honestly I think it’s time for a new design the bronze design has done it’s time now as the post time war arc concluded in twice upon a time the bronze daleks where great during the first 5 new series doctors eras and I feel like power of the doctor would be a great closer to the bronze dalek era

    • @forcedalek
      @forcedalek  Рік тому +1

      Agreed! The Bronze Daleks definitely worked while we were still feeling the effects of the time war with the doctor.
      But the doctor has more or less let go of the time war drama now, so he has moved on as a character and it’s time to move the Daleks on too!

  • @paulashe61
    @paulashe61 Рік тому

    Program needs to stop being blanket universal coverage. Back to base under siege stories. Tiny tight stories

  • @terminatorplayz4614
    @terminatorplayz4614 Місяць тому

    I think at some point the daleks need to die for good.

  • @darlig.ulv.bakhjerne
    @darlig.ulv.bakhjerne Рік тому

    Fake.

    • @thewhovianwithasmallcollec7319
      @thewhovianwithasmallcollec7319 Рік тому

      You mean fan made there’s a difference

    • @darlig.ulv.bakhjerne
      @darlig.ulv.bakhjerne Рік тому +1

      @@thewhovianwithasmallcollec7319 dunno why you're defending it when its clearly designed to mislead people into clicking the video. take a look at the guy's other videos and you'll see - 12k for this one, less than 1k for the rest. says a lot.

    • @thewhovianwithasmallcollec7319
      @thewhovianwithasmallcollec7319 Рік тому

      @@darlig.ulv.bakhjerne but it’s clearly fan made and in the video talking about what might be next for the daleks not defending him if anything I’m agreeing with you yes it’s fake but it’s cause it’s fan made for a fan made project so like don’t be all pressed about it n go touch grass

    • @darlig.ulv.bakhjerne
      @darlig.ulv.bakhjerne Рік тому +1

      @@thewhovianwithasmallcollec7319 it's more the fact that the original title was much more ambiguous than it is now. it was originally just called 'Meet the New Daleks' with no further elaboration. clearly designed to trick people into clicking on it, thinking it was a leak from S14

    • @thewhovianwithasmallcollec7319
      @thewhovianwithasmallcollec7319 Рік тому

      @@darlig.ulv.bakhjerne as someone who is up to date with doctor who news I’m sorry but if you feel for it that’s on you not anyone else

  • @legobi_wan_kenobi
    @legobi_wan_kenobi Рік тому

    Stop deleting comments. it's bad enough that the thumbnail is clickbait but deleting comments that talk about that issue is cowardly

    • @forcedalek
      @forcedalek  Рік тому +4

      How is the thumbnail in anyway clickabait 🤣 the video discusses the new Daleks in infiltration of the Daleks, and the thumbnail shows the Daleks from infiltration of the Daleks 🤣 go direct your anger somewhere else

    • @thewhovianwithasmallcollec7319
      @thewhovianwithasmallcollec7319 Рік тому +3

      In no way is this video click bait you want true click bait go back to tharries cause that’s true click bait content

    • @legobi_wan_kenobi
      @legobi_wan_kenobi Рік тому +1

      @@forcedalek mate don't try to pull the wool, you've changed the title now so my comment is less relevant than it was before, but it doesn't change the fact that this video was designed to pull in views from people who would think this was the new Dalek design for Series 14.
      Good on you for changing the title though, it at least shows that you knew you were in the wrong and took steps to make it right, which I respect. Nice review of Genesis of the Daleks too, just watched that and thought it was great. Honesty and integrity will always prevail

    • @legobi_wan_kenobi
      @legobi_wan_kenobi Рік тому

      @@thewhovianwithasmallcollec7319 it was more clickbaity before than it is now, the title has since been changed. Quite a few other people pointed it out but those comments seem to have mysteriously vanished

    • @thewhovianwithasmallcollec7319
      @thewhovianwithasmallcollec7319 Рік тому

      @@legobi_wan_kenobi sure jan

  • @leepshin
    @leepshin Рік тому

    Did Lego design them. There's no way they'll ever be taken seriously.😅😂😅