I absolutely love this System and Modification! I play this on Bubble Craps and could literally play all day with this! Very little stress and simple! A great Strategy. Thanks so much! 😊😊😊😊
That’s true but losing it really hurts. When you have a balanced system like this recovering losses is tough. The way I play this is no odds on 6/8, only 5/9. If the point is 4/10, put 20 on the point and 10 on the other number. I also don’t take a bet down if the point is 4/10 because you are freerolling. The goal is stay at the table. At an average wager of $75 a roll, after an hour or more you should be able to get at least some nice dinner voucher.
You can lay the 4 or 10 and place a small bet on the 11, or just hope the 11 won't roll out. Take the lay off the four immediately after a point is established. I have seen people lay the four and/or ten and put a small bet on the hardway four and/or ten so that the only way they are really getting stung is by the 1-3 roll and/or the 6-4 roll.
Thanks for the video! How would it affect the comp points of it was played with $50 or even $100 on the DP? Would they see that as a big difference and give you more points?
In my experience, the average bet amount would most likely be the points you’d earn per hour played. Example: if you have $100 average bet and play for one hour, you’ll get around 100 points. 🎲🎲
@@holyrollr$100 per hour played. Just want to ensure that @garrisonlewis2939 does not inadvertently interpret that s/he would only earn 100 points per night, or over the entire cruise. No issues, just a clarification.
@@holyrollr do you know if your average bet is reduced if you don't make line bets? e.g. if I just make $100 pass line bets that's obviously 100 points per hr, but if I'm strictly a place bettor and bet $100 across every roll, will I still get 100points/hr even though I have no action during comeout? If so, I think the "cheapest points" mathematically/house edge wise would be just placing the 6 and 8 and skipping everything else - what do you think? I think this would make a good video - this points system seems like a mystery to most for table games and you have a lot of experience
@@k0unitX it’s around 100 points per hour. Most people don’t get significant points at tables because they don’t play long enough per session…6 & 8 is definitely better than the pass line…$60 each on the 6 & 8 ✅😁
Nice modify, good video, I have played a little with this strategy with your modification and I was up and down but stayed pretty even. it seems like a really good grinding strategy. I’m sure it could be combined with a running with the bulls strategy if you got the itch to bet on the longer rolls.
Am I crazy or are you not able to increase the don’t pass bet on many types of craps machines? Playing bubble craps in Vegas and it isn’t letting me increase the don’t pass bet after the initial roll is establishes, but all these videos say I should be!
@@KQKQ23 yeah most machines don’t allow you to change it and make it a contract bet…so you can’t even remove it 🤯 - it just depends on the machine. 🤷♂️
Are you willing to, or have you previously, shared details on what sort of points per hour you tend to get and at what average bet levels? I am a RC cruiser as well and find that I tend to get better comps playing Roulette vs Craps. Trying to stick with safer comp/play all day type strategies as I'm perfectly willing to break even after 3 hours at the table to grind out the points/comps as the reward (plus the 3 hours of entertainment in and of itself).
That how I think of it…tons of entertainment and breaking even with a bunch of points is a win, win 😁🎲🎲 I have videos that share points detailing how it all works. Basically it’s about average bet per hour on craps and 80-100 points per hour on roulette with a $300 buy-in. NOTE: you have to play for at least one hour to gain any significant points. The longer the better. Short sessions will kill your average and will get very little points. On craps…$100 average bet for one hour will most likely be around 100 points per hour. Hope this helps
@BirdDog. $300+ bet per roll is quite a lot of money at risk. Two losses and you just paid for the free cruise your trying to earn. Are you gambling to try and win $$, which generally requires more risk, or are you playing strategy where you only win or loose a small amount each shooter and trying to get paid with cruises instead? I prefer to stick with strategies that break even or push 90% of the time for a few hours of entertainment while building up points and taking my "pay day" as another free cruise.
As I stated in the beginning, it is very similar to the strategy I use and I’ve received over 20 free cruise offers playing craps. Play craps (with any strategy) earned points towards comp’d cruise offers. So any strategy can work but yes…I have earned a free cruise with this strategy and didn’t lose any money ✅
Hey Brian, I actually saw this strategy right after published it and tried it. It did ok so I tried it at the $50 level on the don't and $25 on the 4 & 10. I did lay the point like they did on Casino Quest but man!!! Whenever the point hit several time in a row it sucked away the bank roll like fat kid in a donut shop. I am going to try it again with your modifications and see how it goes. We're going to Vegas in a few weeks so hopefully I come back with enough to pay off my mortgage :)
may be good for comps (I'm also a casino royale prime player) but seeing all those missed box numbers would kill me. I prefer to get my comps on the slots and play on the table for fun. glad to have run across your channel though! Hope to see you on a cruise soon
That would be awesome. Thanks for watching. I’ve tried to earn points at slots but I make a ton more points at craps and roulette. 🤷♂️ - you’ll have to show me how people earn so many points at slots…🤔
@@holyrollr really?? I get hardly any points for tables lol we did our Prime cruises (my wife and I both got cabins for 2x points) in Norway in September, the craps table was.... FIVE DOLLARS. Also single zero roulette. Unfortunately _nobody_ knew how to play so it was pretty rough. Dealers were out of practice. We just got off Navigator and had great dealers and Casino Quest fans (at least 2 of us) playing. My bankroll is tiny so maybe I'm just not betting enough for the table comps. On $10 table I'll play 6/8 minimum and press/expand to 5/9 if I'm doing well. Wife and I both played through a hundred bucks on $15 blackjack and got destroyed lol had some good hits on slots though, for about $1k total and ended the 3 day cruise up a hundred or so and +500 points each (already got prime on the Norway 7 day)
@@TJCampie wow! I love playing on $5 tables but yes…the lower the bet, the lower the points…and it does get difficult to endure when the dealers are learning…😳🎲🎲
Thanks for the video, Brian! I thought the same thing after seeing his video the other night. I'd lose more in the long run when the most common numbers hit to take my Don't bets! I'm not sure how Weezy stays at the tables so long! I like your modification. I've added it to my Cruise Craps Docs 😁 Would changing the bets after the Come Out to 6 and 8 rather than 4 and 10 work better?
Weezy had a lot of money, and lost a lot of money while slowly sinking when he's barely afloat with what he won back. 7 is the most common roll, so he probably won a lot from those lay bets, but the 6/8 points had to destroy his bank roll after a while.
I really like the mod. Question: since this involves a good bit of hedging... (I know the house still has their edge)... but have you noticed if the RCL dealers are giving you FULL MONEY on the table per hour as points or only RISK ON TABLE per hour as points?
I haven’t experienced points being less. The only time they zero out the average is when people play the pass and don’t pass at the same time…🤷♂️ thanks for watching.
My mod - 30 on DP. 15 on 4/10 unless they are point. If 4/10 is point, put 20 on point and 10 on other. If other place hits, bump point to 25. Pure profit then. Any other point, I play 4/10 with 15. If either hits, I take down other and place the point. 5/9 for 25 or 6/8 for 30. Again, no downside risk at all after you hit one 4/10.
only risk is come out roll... and then a quick point winner before 4/10 hits. I try to look at it as "units" for $30 and count in my head. Heading out on Odyssey in a week hope to see how they calculate the points and get a few long sessions in.
I’ve been playing with this since I saw casino quest roll this out. I’ve also been trying different modifications, but I like this one more. Also question….you wouldn’t be able to earn comp value on the lay though on the original version, correct?
I had just watched Daddy David show this, but I like your version better. Only bad part is only having $60 on the table. Isn't that only about 60 points an hour? Would take a long while to make enough points.
Odds bets have absolutely no comp value towards a free cruise…doesn’t make sense to ever place odds on a cruise. Cruises with Royal Caribbean only do single odds on every number.
Instead of battling the 6/8, I would take down the 4/10 and put even money up against the 6/8. Consider that roll a push and save the strategies for the 4/10 and 5/9. Not losing 30 bucks on the 6/8 is almost as good as winning 30 bucks 👍
@holyrollr = Great that you rolled that 6-4 (10) paying the $25 Buy the 10 hedge. Just goes to show viewers how easy it is to get sniped on the 4 or 10 while playing the Don't Pass side. New craps players who transition to the Don't Pass side, cannot believe that they can get sniped on those points. But, you and I, and many others who regularly venture dark, know all too well that you can lose your Don't Pass bets almost nearly at the same frequency as Pass side betters lose their Pass Line and odds bets.
With the average bet of this at $60 is horrible for comps, so I'm not sure where you see the value in this for comps unless you play it at a higher level. Most casinos don't count your odds either. This isn't Roulette, Craps has such a low house edge you get very little in comps & tier credits even when playing at a 150-250 average for 10 hours a day. Anyway besides that if I played this when my point was 4 or 10 the way I would play it is say the point was 10 since I'm a 2-1 favorite I wouldn't hedge it and if the 4 hit for $27 I would bring down the 4 and play out my $30 DP that way I only have $3 at risk with a good chance to win 27+30=$57.
@@holyrollr Classy, it's you who is posting this content you might as well turn off all comments if something like what I said upsets you so much. For someone with a channel you'd think they would welcome others to comment on the strategies they post even if it's criticism or a suggestion how it can be played better for comps (higher level I suggested).
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Nice take on a good strat. If nothing else, it's a great way to stay at the table. Thanks!
Thanks for watching. I truly appreciate it. 😁
I actually tried this on a bubble craps machine and it worked!! Thanks bro!!!
I absolutely love this System and Modification! I play this on Bubble Craps and could literally play all day with this! Very little stress and simple! A great Strategy. Thanks so much! 😊😊😊😊
@@ChristopherTaravella awesome 👏🏻
Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts 👍🏼🎲🎲
So are you buying the point if the 4 or 10 hit or placing it?
Always buy them. ✅
Once you get past the come out roll .... odds are in your favor to lay odds on the DP.
That’s true but losing it really hurts. When you have a balanced system like this recovering losses is tough.
The way I play this is no odds on 6/8, only 5/9. If the point is 4/10, put 20 on the point and 10 on the other number. I also don’t take a bet down if the point is 4/10 because you are freerolling. The goal is stay at the table. At an average wager of $75 a roll, after an hour or more you should be able to get at least some nice dinner voucher.
@@es330td "balanced" strategy is inferior to DP/odds
dont get confused.
How do you protect yourself on the come out? My wife and I did a practice run at home and got killed on the come out.
Yeah, the disadvantage is on the come out but then you have advantage on every other roll. You can hop the 7 & 11 on the come out if you want…🤷♂️🎲🎲
@@holyrollr very true
You can lay the 4 or 10 and place a small bet on the 11, or just hope the 11 won't roll out. Take the lay off the four immediately after a point is established. I have seen people lay the four and/or ten and put a small bet on the hardway four and/or ten so that the only way they are really getting stung is by the 1-3 roll and/or the 6-4 roll.
@@itzamia Perfect, thank you
@@MetroCollectablesandvlogs You got it, good luck.
I really like the options you added.
Thank you so much. I appreciate the encouragement ✅
What’s your opinion on having bets on for the 4 & 10 on the come out roll?
Interesting. Risk the $60 on the come out and hope for a 2, 3, 4, or 10…while missing the 7 or 11…I like it…I’ll roll it out sometime soon.
@@holyrollr The reason I say that is I have noticed the. 4 & 10 come out a lot on the come out roll
I didn't realize I wasn't subscribed I usually watch because it comes up on my feed... Nice Video my friend!
Thanks 😊
Like your videos very much....pretty straight forward....good explanations of the strategy....no call-outs of the stupid nicknames for the numbers !
Thanks 😊
Thanks for the video! How would it affect the comp points of it was played with $50 or even $100 on the DP? Would they see that as a big difference and give you more points?
In my experience, the average bet amount would most likely be the points you’d earn per hour played. Example: if you have $100 average bet and play for one hour, you’ll get around 100 points. 🎲🎲
@@holyrollr$100 per hour played. Just want to ensure that @garrisonlewis2939 does not inadvertently interpret that s/he would only earn 100 points per night, or over the entire cruise. No issues, just a clarification.
Yes.
@@holyrollr do you know if your average bet is reduced if you don't make line bets? e.g. if I just make $100 pass line bets that's obviously 100 points per hr, but if I'm strictly a place bettor and bet $100 across every roll, will I still get 100points/hr even though I have no action during comeout?
If so, I think the "cheapest points" mathematically/house edge wise would be just placing the 6 and 8 and skipping everything else - what do you think? I think this would make a good video - this points system seems like a mystery to most for table games and you have a lot of experience
@@k0unitX it’s around 100 points per hour. Most people don’t get significant points at tables because they don’t play long enough per session…6 & 8 is definitely better than the pass line…$60 each on the 6 & 8 ✅😁
Nice modify, good video, I have played a little with this strategy with your modification and I was up and down but stayed pretty even. it seems like a really good grinding strategy. I’m sure it could be combined with a running with the bulls strategy if you got the itch to bet on the longer rolls.
That’s great 👍🏼
Buy 4 & 10 = 6 combos. 7 = 6 combos. Battle the mighty 7.
Am I crazy or are you not able to increase the don’t pass bet on many types of craps machines? Playing bubble craps in Vegas and it isn’t letting me increase the don’t pass bet after the initial roll is establishes, but all these videos say I should be!
@@KQKQ23 yeah most machines don’t allow you to change it and make it a contract bet…so you can’t even remove it 🤯 - it just depends on the machine. 🤷♂️
Are you willing to, or have you previously, shared details on what sort of points per hour you tend to get and at what average bet levels? I am a RC cruiser as well and find that I tend to get better comps playing Roulette vs Craps. Trying to stick with safer comp/play all day type strategies as I'm perfectly willing to break even after 3 hours at the table to grind out the points/comps as the reward (plus the 3 hours of entertainment in and of itself).
That how I think of it…tons of entertainment and breaking even with a bunch of points is a win, win 😁🎲🎲
I have videos that share points detailing how it all works. Basically it’s about average bet per hour on craps and 80-100 points per hour on roulette with a $300 buy-in.
NOTE: you have to play for at least one hour to gain any significant points. The longer the better. Short sessions will kill your average and will get very little points.
On craps…$100 average bet for one hour will most likely be around 100 points per hour.
Hope this helps
Waylon showed $10 DP and 5 each on 4 and 10
Could you play this with 300 on the DP? What is the limit on the boat? 600 on the table per hour would rack up cruised points
@BirdDog. $300+ bet per roll is quite a lot of money at risk. Two losses and you just paid for the free cruise your trying to earn. Are you gambling to try and win $$, which generally requires more risk, or are you playing strategy where you only win or loose a small amount each shooter and trying to get paid with cruises instead?
I prefer to stick with strategies that break even or push 90% of the time for a few hours of entertainment while building up points and taking my "pay day" as another free cruise.
@@gunndygaming so you are sticking with $50-$100 a roll on a all day strategy?
Have you won any cruises with this strategy?
As I stated in the beginning, it is very similar to the strategy I use and I’ve received over 20 free cruise offers playing craps. Play craps (with any strategy) earned points towards comp’d cruise offers. So any strategy can work but yes…I have earned a free cruise with this strategy and didn’t lose any money ✅
Hey Brian, I actually saw this strategy right after published it and tried it. It did ok so I tried it at the $50 level on the don't and $25 on the 4 & 10. I did lay the point like they did on Casino Quest but man!!! Whenever the point hit several time in a row it sucked away the bank roll like fat kid in a donut shop. I am going to try it again with your modifications and see how it goes. We're going to Vegas in a few weeks so hopefully I come back with enough to pay off my mortgage :)
@@MrWatlow let me know how it goes! Thanks for watching 😂🍩
Thank you.. pretty good strategy👍
Thanks for watching. ✅😁
2 Whweel Pair -O Dice ... Enjoyed your input on Craps chat last night. I like the Weezy and use in in Dec when Im on NCL vacation
Thanks 😊
may be good for comps (I'm also a casino royale prime player) but seeing all those missed box numbers would kill me. I prefer to get my comps on the slots and play on the table for fun. glad to have run across your channel though! Hope to see you on a cruise soon
That would be awesome. Thanks for watching. I’ve tried to earn points at slots but I make a ton more points at craps and roulette. 🤷♂️ - you’ll have to show me how people earn so many points at slots…🤔
@@holyrollr really?? I get hardly any points for tables lol we did our Prime cruises (my wife and I both got cabins for 2x points) in Norway in September, the craps table was.... FIVE DOLLARS. Also single zero roulette. Unfortunately _nobody_ knew how to play so it was pretty rough. Dealers were out of practice. We just got off Navigator and had great dealers and Casino Quest fans (at least 2 of us) playing. My bankroll is tiny so maybe I'm just not betting enough for the table comps. On $10 table I'll play 6/8 minimum and press/expand to 5/9 if I'm doing well. Wife and I both played through a hundred bucks on $15 blackjack and got destroyed lol had some good hits on slots though, for about $1k total and ended the 3 day cruise up a hundred or so and +500 points each (already got prime on the Norway 7 day)
@@TJCampie wow! I love playing on $5 tables but yes…the lower the bet, the lower the points…and it does get difficult to endure when the dealers are learning…😳🎲🎲
what a heck of a roll!!!!!!!! would have KILLED with some power pressing.
Thanks for the video, Brian! I thought the same thing after seeing his video the other night. I'd lose more in the long run when the most common numbers hit to take my Don't bets! I'm not sure how Weezy stays at the tables so long! I like your modification. I've added it to my Cruise Craps Docs 😁 Would changing the bets after the Come Out to 6 and 8 rather than 4 and 10 work better?
Yeah, changing the bets to 6 & 8 would pretty much make it like the Light in the Darkness strategy 🤷♂️ - it’s very similar 😁
Weezy had a lot of money, and lost a lot of money while slowly sinking when he's barely afloat with what he won back. 7 is the most common roll, so he probably won a lot from those lay bets, but the 6/8 points had to destroy his bank roll after a while.
I really like the mod. Question: since this involves a good bit of hedging... (I know the house still has their edge)... but have you noticed if the RCL dealers are giving you FULL MONEY on the table per hour as points or only RISK ON TABLE per hour as points?
I haven’t experienced points being less. The only time they zero out the average is when people play the pass and don’t pass at the same time…🤷♂️ thanks for watching.
My mod - 30 on DP. 15 on 4/10 unless they are point. If 4/10 is point, put 20 on point and 10 on other. If other place hits, bump point to 25. Pure profit then. Any other point, I play 4/10 with 15. If either hits, I take down other and place the point. 5/9 for 25 or 6/8 for 30. Again, no downside risk at all after you hit one 4/10.
only risk is come out roll... and then a quick point winner before 4/10 hits. I try to look at it as "units" for $30 and count in my head. Heading out on Odyssey in a week hope to see how they calculate the points and get a few long sessions in.
So you put 25 on the point. 5,6,8,9
@@robertkay5624 no, you lay $30 against the point 👍🏼
I’ve been playing with this since I saw casino quest roll this out. I’ve also been trying different modifications, but I like this one more.
Also question….you wouldn’t be able to earn comp value on the lay though on the original version, correct?
Yes. Except for the lay odds. No comps on odds…👎🏼
I had just watched Daddy David show this, but I like your version better. Only bad part is only having $60 on the table. Isn't that only about 60 points an hour? Would take a long while to make enough points.
line/odds and come/odds
why do ppl always complicate it
Odds bets have absolutely no comp value towards a free cruise…doesn’t make sense to ever place odds on a cruise. Cruises with Royal Caribbean only do single odds on every number.
@@holyrollr good grief why would anyone play craps on RC.
Instead of battling the 6/8, I would take down the 4/10 and put even money up against the 6/8. Consider that roll a push and save the strategies for the 4/10 and 5/9. Not losing 30 bucks on the 6/8 is almost as good as winning 30 bucks 👍
@@itzamia nice 👍🏼
@holyrollr = Great that you rolled that 6-4 (10) paying the $25 Buy the 10 hedge. Just goes to show viewers how easy it is to get sniped on the 4 or 10 while playing the Don't Pass side. New craps players who transition to the Don't Pass side, cannot believe that they can get sniped on those points. But, you and I, and many others who regularly venture dark, know all too well that you can lose your Don't Pass bets almost nearly at the same frequency as Pass side betters lose their Pass Line and odds bets.
#facts 😁🎲🎲
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With the average bet of this at $60 is horrible for comps, so I'm not sure where you see the value in this for comps unless you play it at a higher level. Most casinos don't count your odds either. This isn't Roulette, Craps has such a low house edge you get very little in comps & tier credits even when playing at a 150-250 average for 10 hours a day. Anyway besides that if I played this when my point was 4 or 10 the way I would play it is say the point was 10 since I'm a 2-1 favorite I wouldn't hedge it and if the 4 hit for $27 I would bring down the 4 and play out my $30 DP that way I only have $3 at risk with a good chance to win 27+30=$57.
I have had a different experience but you sound like you have it all figured out. Thanks for sharing. I hope to know as much as you some day. 😁
@@holyrollr Classy, it's you who is posting this content you might as well turn off all comments if something like what I said upsets you so much. For someone with a channel you'd think they would welcome others to comment on the strategies they post even if it's criticism or a suggestion how it can be played better for comps (higher level I suggested).
@@censr1 I thought we were joking 😁
Oops 😬
Pretty basic hybrid style.
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Not a fan of hybrids, Don’ts, cruising…? 🤷♂️🤔
What bet are you buying the 10 with?
@@JohnBahan vig is $1 and is pre-paid on Royal Caribbean ships.
@@holyrollr I know the vig but what is the bet amount?
@@JohnBahan 5% on $20 or more…