Literal decades later and that Spike speech is still my favorite declaration of selfless love I have ever seen on TV. As I once said, the build up and ups and downs in Buffy's relationship with Spike leading to the payoff found in this scene made this whole show worth it for me for that speech scene alone. Bravo!
Only to have Buffy runoff and start making out with her toxic ex-boyfriend. Then when he confronts her about it. She plays it off with jokes and basically tells him to get over it
@@lichcoin6144 and that's sad and pathetic. He tells her how he's loved her. How he's seen her at her highs and lows and still loves everything about her. Then within 24 hours, she's off making out with her toxic ex-boyfriend. And when he confronts her about it, her reaction is to basically tell him to get over it. It's so messed up.
The prop eas sold at auction. This is what was on the note "Spike, You told me things last night that I really needed to hear. I feel stronger now because of you. I know what my mission is and that Caleb's holding the secret to it all. This one I have to take care of alone. You take care too. --Buffy”
She proceeds to go make out with her toxic ex-boyfriend and tell that same toxic ex-boyfriend that while she can't be with him right now, because this simp is still in her life. She'll eventually be available and they'll get together then. When the simp confronts her about them making out, she brushes it off with some jokes and basically tells the simp to get over it. He does.
Remember the little Fear Demon when Buffy was in College? “They’re all going to abandon you, you know?”..”yeah, yeah..!..SQUASH!” The best thing about The Speech was that Spike didn’t extoll Buffy as the Slayer, but reminds her that her true power is as a result of her being a “hell of a woman.” That’s the whole point of the series Joss was trying to make. Buffy’s real strength never came from her powers as a Slayer, but from what she got from her mom, her friends, Giles, Angel, even what she learned from the Council and the Big Bads she fought.
Love your reaction! Cried again. It really is the best speech ever. It shows what a deep understanding Spike has of who Buffy is and how much he loves her completely and at last without expecting anything from her.
Buffy's intuition has been right the entire series. Multiple times each season she has a hunch about something, and everyone thinks she is wrong. Every time she ends up being right
Spike even soulless knew what made people tick, but back then he used it maliciously. That's why no one had anything to say when he threw it back at them, they knew they messed up. Faith has never been a "team player", she was on her own most of the time, she's been behind bars and hasn't been a "slayer" for a while now, even if the line runs through her. The first knows that Buffy is its real threat and they are so self-centered that they can't tell that it's tryna isolate her from them. Notice how that night they're finding comfort in "flesh" while Buffy and Spike are just holding each other.
I love the speech Spike gives Buffy about his love for her. While soulless he's told her he's loved her many times, but its never been believable because he was soulless. He couldn't entire mean it even when he thought it was the truth because he didn't fully understand love. Many fans agreed with the sentiments in his S3's speech to Buffy and Angel, but at the end of the day, being love's bitch isn't love. It's an obsession. While soulless he could claim his love was about the other one, but it was really about him. Now, with a soul, it isn't about him. And what he said to Buffy and Angel in S3 is true because their relationship had always been wrong because it was an underage girl in said position Spike was talking to them of. This whole paragraph all shows a huge difference between soulless characters and non-soulless characters. I have issues with the group in this episode as a result of the last episode, and while Spike takes care of a lot of it in this episode, there is one thing I will always have issue with no matter if things get fixed between them or not: Buffy was kicked out for walking into a trap where Xander lost an eye, despite the fact that she warned them in advance that it was a trap and that things like that would happen in war. Faith is the only one I see who didn't play a part in it and tried to apologize for the fact that it happened. The group replaced Buffy with Faith (dividing them bcause of in-fighting - which is exactly what The First wanted and another thing Buffy warned the group against) who has walked them into an even more obvious trap, when they assumed they were going to find a smoking gun Buffy was telling them was at the vineyard. Are they next going to kick Faith out as well... if they or she is alive to do so, that is? It would be hypocritical if they didn't try. This isn't an actual question. I was being rhetorical because of how The Scoobies (minus Faith, but plus the SIT's) acted towards Buffy in the last episode. The actor who played the Mayor had just enough tme in a busy schedule to fit this guest apperance in. He actually called them up and said if you can fit me in during this time in a week or two I'll have a small window. The writers re-wrote that part of this episode's script.
Sophie, your analysis is always so good. I've watched the series many times, watched reactors react. But you indicate plot and character layers that I have never considered before. Thanks.
Spike's spech is literally everything a woman wants to hear. He gets us. We don't want to hear that we're just pretty or whatever, this is what we want ! We want to hear that we're incredilble, strong and good enough. The way he comforted and motivated her when everybody literally turned their back on her...that's a real MAN here ! Also couldn't care less about the others whereabouts. i was done with them since they kicked her out of her own house. like this could've been a whole episode starring Sarah and James only and I would've been happy
So what is Buffy's response to this speech. Witthin 24 hours, she goes and makes out with her toxic ex-boyfriend. Meanwhile, super simp Spike watches the whole thing. Then when he confronts her, she plays it off with jokes about oil wrestling, and then basically says get over it.
Who thought it was a good idea to follow Tara up with someone who was her exact opposite? Tara was humble, kind-hearted, talented, helpful, charming, and with strong moral character, and instead we have... Kennedy.
Willow was friends with Tara before their relationship became romantic. They liked each other's personalities, behaviors, even their quirks. They strengthened each other, even when one had to protect the other from herself. Whereas Kennedy is dislikable as a person. She's nasty, spoiled, and full of herself. She encourages Willow to fall off the wagon, and in not recognizing the danger -- the lesson that Tara lost her life while trying to make Willow learn what she desperately needed to -- is pushing Willow to be her worst self instead of her best self. But maybe the writers thought that modern audiences would like to see that in a character, reflecting the ideals that they are taught to embody and that would empower them.
Let the record show that Buffy was proven right about her insecurities. She told the therapy Vamp she felt simultaneously superior and inferior to her friends and family and couldn’t trust any of them. Outside of Joyce, Tara (her love confession with spike), and spike himself she has no one she can trust or turn to. Spike is literally all she has but Giles and the scoobies had something say about it Smdh.
Giving Spike a soul was the final development of the character in his Buffy show. His personality was different to Ange,l and his unfiltered bluntness was needed to pull up other characters quickly.
This is one of the episodes that I think really redeemed Spike as a character and it's beautiful because it reaches backwards. One would think having a seeming character reversal from 'Seeing Red' to right now, Spike being the only one of all her friends to be A RIDE! Buffy's relationship with all the people in that house is special and deep and long or some mixture of those. These are valuable relationships with people that she has established that are stronger than most average relationships. But there comes a time, when the world is basically ending in this case, when ... "heavy is the head that holds the crown" or to speak 😮💨 even if it's only one time in a lifetime, She is going to have the memory that Spike was the only person on HER SIDE!! This allows us to accept earlier season 7 with a more open heart then we might have been going into it, after the episode that I NEVER watch! It's so out of character and horrible at the end of season 6. I literally black it out.
Whenever Buffy and Spike physically abuse Faith, I'm reminded of how a lot of Faith's anger came from being physically abused by her mother, and it bothers me. Anyone else feel this way?
What bothers me more is the fact that not a single Slayer ever learns how to defend. They can throw a lot of big punshed, but just as often they stare directly into the fist that is about to hit their head.... Girl, at least raise your arms to not get punshed full force 😅
Beg pardon, but is that datum about Faith in the series or something introduced in the comics or commentary? Because I don't remember it, and barely remember Faith referencing her mother at all, except as a reparte: "My mother hits harder than that."
Plot hole: When Spike finds Buffy, he says 'you were right' about something being hidden at the vineyard. Except she only figured that out after Spike had left, so he wouldn't know about that, or her plan to go back there. Whoops! xD
@@Nicamon To be fair, with Sandy, there was a lot of off-screen time where she could have potentially been turned, even if it's kind of silly. There is no off-screen moment where Spike could have learned of Buffy's plan to go back to the vineyard, though. 😛
@@othergrimm6592 They explained in ep 1x01 that vampires don't take anyone's"leftovers",that it's _rare_ for vamps to turn humans and that"mostly they're just gonna kill them"and that you can't be already dead if you have to be turned.Sandy was *dead.* Period! VampWill's line explains it,the lore explains it,only the fans are stubborn enough to still deny it after all these DECADES!😵
@@Henrik_Holst Why does *everyone* forget/ignore what VampWill SAYS when she attacks Sandy???🤦♂"If you're all good boys&girls we'll make you young and strong forever and ever. We'll have fun."(AKA we'll turn you into vampires)"IF YOU'RE NOT...(turns and bites Sandy and she drops her on the floor instead of letting Sandy bite her to transform her)" Which part of"IF YOU'RE NOT"you guys SKIP every single time???🤦♂It _CLEARELY_ implies that she *KILLED* Sandy as an example to say:"Don't try to rebel to us!"!!!
thats why some people are pro spuffy, just only for this scene, but they forgot he tried to rape her before (without soul i don't care, he pretended to love her without it, his action didn't depend to his soul or not) that"s why a true relation couldn't really happened between them. Spike loved her, but she can't
*Thank you!!!* I will never understand whoever says they are the best ship. I can understand not shipping Bangel,I will never understand seriously shipping Spuffy!X-[
Actually people hated spike the entire time and that sa scene was an excuse no one would ever argue against. Still to this day there are die hard bangle shippers that will try to argue and when the spuffy person doesn’t budge they claim anyone who likes spike as a character also likes SA. It’s become an extreme issue honestly. Buffy loved him always and was in denial long before that SA scene. Spike knows her remember? He called her out several times about hiding her feelings for him. There was an entire episode where she almost killed everyone in order to prevent spike from telling them the truth. What people also don’t want to talk about is the reality that the SA scene was the natural climax of BOTH spike AND Buffy’s toxic behaviors. She was mentally, emotionally, and physically abusive towards spike. Based on both of their comments we know their sex life was filled with very…. Violent and even questionable kinks. Their first time was initiated by Buffy after repeatedly beating the crap out of each other and breaking stone walls in an abandoned building. She ran from her feelings, lashed out with hurtful words towards spike, spike responded with aggression and violent force, and the only think different??? Buffy was serious about not wanting him. This time….. every other time she would give in or actively seek HIM out. That type of extreme toxicity doesn’t just go away over night. Should it have gone that far?? No however it was extremely well done but the core audience of the original airing wouldn’t have been in a mental space to look at it from the writers perspective. Or the perspective of storytelling. They saw their hero get SAd by a man that said he loved her. All the lead ups be damned. That’s how the pay off actually works and makes sense though. Because they are perfect for each other even in their evil/toxic identities.
so angel gets a pass for all the stuff he did when he had no soul because it was not him but spike gets condemned for something he did when he had no soul when it's been stated that a vampire without a soul is not the same person who was killed. spike remembers everything that soulless spike did but it was not him it's like something else had control of his body now he has finally his body back. he did not do that to Buffy it was not him. if you don't get that you don't understand you don't understand how the show works.
@@McCabe86 angelus didnt know buffy before angel, angel was the first to know and love Buffy, (and with time its not impossible that angelus could love her like spike did without soul, but angelus didn't appear for a long time) spike loved her since have a soul, because he known buffy before have a soul, this is not the same thing with angel spike loved buffy but his love was self-centered i often hear: the buffy spike relationship is more mature than that of Buffy and angel it's completely false Buffy and Angel continue to love each other through the ages, Angel left to give Buffy freedom of the future with a mortal Buffy and Spike was essentially based on sex, and an unhealthy relationship and attempted rape it doesn't matter that spike has his soul now, in a credible way, there is too much evil between them engraved in the past that makes stories impossible i really think buffy forgave him by having real consideration for him at the end, but it can't be more in my opinion, it would be too much (please don't count the comics lol)
@@vikkidonn The fact 1 or 2 people have feelings for each other doesn't automatically make them a good healthy couple.Spike&Drusilla had feelings for each other...would you call them healthy?Angelus&Darla had feelings for each other...would you called them healthy?The Mayor had a genuine form of affection towards Faith and viceversa...would you call _their_ relationship healthy?Buffy may have feelings for Spike...this is *not enough* to make the Spuffy a ship worth shipping! "the SA scene was the natural climax of BOTH Spike AND Buffy’s toxic behaviors. She was mentally, emotionally and physically abusive towards Spike." *Exactly!!!* That's what I just said!Just because the Spuffy feel something for each other *doesn't mean they are a good couple!!!* (And for the record this is *the exact same thing* I think about the Craptain Swan from"Once Upon a Time"that have *such a similar dynamic.* Who knows,knows.)
Sofie, you watching Spike's speech three times- I love you 😂 I've enjoyed your reactions so much, you just get the nuances and motivations of the characters so well which makes it so fun to watch your interpretations and reactions to what's going on.
She really is a great reactor. Her Buffy & Firefly reactions are some of my all time favorite reactions from anyone. I always enjoy a reactor that pays attention, gets the humor & understands character nuance & Sofie does all that at a very high level.
When Spike was a human he was the type of person who DID sit back and observe the way people behaved, maybe because he was so desperate to fit in, but it carried through all his years as a vampire too. Now, he's excellent at reading people - especially their worst actions due to who he was around as a vampire - and he's fantastic at cutting through the BS. He's also great at really seeing Buffy... because who do you watch more than the person you're in love with? And, as shown in the speech, he really understands and loves her. It took 6 seasons, but Buffy and Spike are finally the best couple on the show.
He craved human connection. I think he was too sheltered that's why he wasn't able to fit in. He seemed like a decent man who could be brave if it came down to it. He was a desperate romantic and people clowned him for it. He is really good with his words when they're authentic. When Willow was going through a heartbreak and everyone was in denial, he was the only one who saw it, even as a soulless vampire. He used it as a way to cause chaos when he was souless. He's a true empath.
@@Nicamon It's ironic that you're in the small small SMAAAALL minority that hates Spike, yet you're so insecure about it you keep posting the same long-winded repetitive diatribes trying to convince people, even though they ALWAYS have an EXCELLENT fool-proof counter-argument to your silly argument. Seriously, everyone knows what your (wrong) opinion is. You've been yapping about in reaction comment sections for YEARS. Why not just accept you're in the small minority and keep the essay-long replies to yourself? UA-cam keeps deleting your replies? Well, TAKE A HINT.
When you read about how traumatized James was by what happened in Seeing Red, you've got to feel awful for the actor. But if he was able to turn that pain into something that made this episode happen? I don't want to say "worth it" - but an amazing show of talent and personal strength.
This speech is just incredibly beautiful and the most beautiful declaration of selfless love. Buffy needed to hear this. And it was the perfect time to say those words to her. Great reaction as usual, Sofie. ;-)
Ahhh!!! I watched this reaction months ago on your Patreon, but when I saw you posted this, I just had to rewatch it, and here I am crying again :) I love this episode and that speech so much, but most of all, I love your reactions and analysis of these characters. Hands down the smartest and most empathetic reactor of this show. I miss you, Sofie
"You are a hell of a woman" Those exact words that are pulling Buffy back on her feet have been spoken before and have had the same effect. Riley in S6 "As you were" said it to Buffy and gave her the strength to end the toxic relationship with Spike at that time and turn back into the light. I love the reccurring phrase.
The speech was my fav too of all buffy 🎉❤❤.... Spike grew the most .. he came full circle... good to bad to good... Buffy was always Solid good thru it all. I'm so glad you gave Spike forgiveness ❤ ... it has a stronger meaning of the power of forgiveness.. 🤯🥳🥳
Spike's confession is one of the most sincere moments of the show. The words Buffy deserved and needed to hear❤ It's crazy to think about Buffy and Spike's first encounter in season 2, and then we get this scene... God I love this show.
I *would* have love it if 90% of Spike's character development didn't happen when he still didn't have a soul,which makes the whole thing invalid from my point of view.X-[
@@circling-girl No because if souless beings can become Good it means having a soul is useless and Slayers are mass murderers.Think about it...what does Spike need a soul for?He's ALREADY behaving like a human!What difference does it make having a soul?It makes him slightly more empathic?THAT'S IT???That's all you need a soul for???Then why should Buffy be allowed to kill vampires?Why should she feel guilty only when she kills humans?Why should she spare *WARREN* that is a *much worse being than Spike* only because HE has a soul???If you make Spike develop without a soul *the entire premise of the show crushes and crumbles on itself!*
@@circling-girl I'm sure I had already replied to this comment. I think UA-cam deleted my reply. BTW no because if a souless being can become Good just like a souled one,then having a soul has no meaning and the Slayers shouldn't be allowed to exterminate souless beings like they do.
I agree with you, 100% ! With everything you said about Buffy, Spike's rant to the scoobies and his beautiful speech to Buffy. And everything you said about this episodes or the characters in this video, really XD ! That speech makes me cry every time ! I'm not a romantic person, I easily find those speeches and declarations cheesy. But that speech is the most beautiful thing I've ever heard someone say to another person (on TV, books or movies...). It's so selfless and perfectly said...
I noticed Sofie was nearing the end of BtVS about 2 months ago, and I decided I would watch all her Buffy reactions on youtube. I've just caught up ready for the last episodes. What a great reactor!
Spike this far into his relationship with the Scoobies is known as the guy that can see straight through anything and see it for what it is, ever since 3x8 where Spike tells Buffy and Angel the truth on their relationship. The Scoobies were tense when he returned because they knew they couldn't pull the wool over his eyes, but imo it's also why Buffy pushes him away at first. Spike out of everyone in her life is the only one that sees her for what she is and loves her for it, which is something Buffy doesn't get from anyone else and can't do for herself in most situations, this scene resulting in her listening to him and accepting what he says as the truth is a beautiful one.
You are the best reactor to Btvs and to Spuffy! You understand Spuffy and Spike exactly as I do and as Spuffy shippers in common. Cried and laughed with you. Thank you 😊❤
I have some issues in that season especially other writting chatacters except Spike and Buffy. James is a really great actor and Buffy is clearly the best female chatacter ever created.
In the USA probably Buffy is in top 10... .... we has had authors in my country the Czech Republic that made better characters. For example you might know a female writer named Bozena Nemcova.
Oh my spuffy heart ❤ they finally made love without even having sex. Joyce/the first did keep saying you need to sleep. The whole season she has veen sleep deprived Also look how fast wood went for faith he never cared for buffy just wanted to get with a slayer.
No my dear just episode 20 ❤ ....yes its a amazing episode ...hope u enjoy the series finaly episode 21&22 i think it was awesome ...buffy will be 4ever one of the best tv series of all time. And this still over 20 years ago ...at least if u compared to shows from the last few years ...like the rings of power and all that marvel crap with that millions and millions of dollar what they had ,and looks what buffy did with nothing more or less...spike is and will be 4 ever awesome ...
sorry if you already answered this question before but why is there such a long wait between some of your reactions like buffy and angel?. love your reactions.
Something I realized recently is that the First is probably the closest to how evil works in the real world. Evil isn’t demons or monsters or hyena people. Evil is that thing that whispers in your ear and says “you should do this because you want to” or “you /deserve/ this, even if others get hurt”, or “what you believe is right and you should do anything to make it true for everyone” or “be scared of those people over there, they’re out to get you”.
He still remains the most lame Big Bad of them all IMO.😓All he does is _talking_ you just need to do the exact opposite of what he says and 90% of the time you will save yourself pretty much all the troubles.
@@Nicamon People get manipulated and influenced every day by lesser beings and lesser actions. If The First is getting people to do its bidding just by talking, then it's a lot more dangerous and effective than most villains. Is that as entertaining? Perhaps not.
@@cajah88 I don't know...think of Rumplestiltskin from"Once Upon a Time"...yes,he uses magic,but the greatest damages he does them by manipulating other characters and yet _he_ is a far more interesting,entertaining,charismatic _and_ threatening character than the First,IMO. The point is that...if ALL it takes to convince the Heroes to do wrong things is _talking to them_ and not even manipulating them in a smart subtle way,but just telling them straight: "Buffy is a threat,you have to get rid of her."when *WE KNOW* Buffy is the most dangerous threat for the First,I don't think that the Villain is smart or powerful,I JUST THINK THE HEROES ARE *DUMB!!!* 🤦♂💢
@@ulrichs3061 But it's *_not_* more convenient,that's the point!! If the First manifested to Faith in S3 and told her to get rid of Buffy so she could have her friends and her Watcher(and perhaps even her boyfriend)all for herself,it would have made sense. But what does have Faith to gain *_now_* with Buffy gone?They're about to face the most dangerous Big Bad of them all(so they are told),they need ALL the help,ALL the allies and ALL the experience they can get...in what scenario getting rid of the most experienced Slayer is a smart move for *anyone???* 🤨 Why should Faith fall for such a speech NOW???
Hi, Sofie, thanks for your reaction to this episode, one of my favorites. I also can't help but tear up during Spike's speech. Truly one of the best, most profound moments of the entire series. Spike's arc was amazing. They put us through hell in S6, but I think it pays off here, and no matter how many times I watch this scene, I can never not cry and replay it multiple times. It's a thing of beauty, and so was your reaction.
Spike mocking the idea of Buffy making the "decision" to take a little time off in the middle of the apocalypse reminds me vaguely of some story or other I heard in the news recently. I can't really go into any more detail, but Spike's "Been practicing that long, have you?" is an absolute burn.
Bringing up that scene that shall not be mentioned, makes it not only that a sex scene could be troubling, but them just lying there, shows how much she trusts him now. THAT in itself is leaps and bounds.
The evolution of Buffy is almost complete. How can this be the same girl dropped off by Joyce on her first day at Sunnydale High ? Superb but how really different are Willow, Xander, and Giles ? Not outwardly but emotionally intelligent and morally mature? Your reactions are always entertaining and thoughtful. One slight disagreement I have is the difference between Faith and Buffy. It’s more than experience in battle. Buffy has a moral compass that is mostly always true North. Buffy feels blame and sorrow that any Potential has died , but that speaks to her love of all life and her strength to care. It’s not the name of the person (though Buffy beats herself because she doesn’t know theirs) it’s the individual, the love of the living person, Buffy plans for victory in her battles but she always plans for her Army to have defenses. Buffy is always the lead and takes on the biggest and most dangerous herself. That’s not Faith . Faith and Willow are shown having sex and Buffy is not. You said it best that Buffy is connecting on a different level than before. She is a woman and not depressed. Faith has not come close to separating true love from sex. Willow is satisfying a physical attraction and she is so different than she was with Oz and Tara. Willow is now older but has not gone through the process of becoming a well rounded emotional mature woman. The last Season gets negative reviews from some fans but the story is about growing older for all and growing up for a few. You asked a question during your reaction to Intervention? You stated, “ Did they ever really know Buffy?” Or Buffy’s question/ statement… then you don’t know what a Slayer is ! The last 2 episodes answered the question, they really do not understand. Buffy is not perfect and has made mistakes. But she has never given up on Willow, Xander, Giles, or Dawn.
Yes! the way she ends up holding him by the morning is so good I can't. And how they just stare into each others eyes for an extended time, it's basically proven that if you hold a gaze with your lover you will feel more connected with them and more intimate, they truly had way more intimacy than the rest of them just banging each other just in case they die tomorrow.
I recently discovered that Buffy's original line to Caleb was, "If someone didn't know you, they might think you were a woman-hating prick". But the network made them change "prick" to "jerk", which definitely doesn't have the same punch. That line never sat right with me and now I know why. And if any of you have ever seen Fast Times at Ridgemont High (and if you haven't, go watch now), then you know the power of that word. I am sure the BtVS writers were all familiar with that seminal film.
Hmm, I could imagine Andrew being uncomfortable ("why are we always yelling?") lol I dont think he would've been on the side of kicking her out though, same with Tara. He probably would've made some Star Wars/ Trek reference about fighting in the ranks or mutiny 😄
This is the episode that makes me believe that it was actually Joyce who appeared to Buffy and also Dawn in Conversations with Dead People. Joyce said that Buffy needed to rest. Being kicked out by the others and resting with Spike gave her that boost in a way to gather herself.
i never comment.. or react.. to anything someone says but.. now i want to thank you for seeing and feeling, what we all feel for this show and the truth it hits in this scene 15.46. thank you.
Touched was another great episode building up to Chosen and the end of the show. The total breakdown and chaos among the group just bickering and talking over each other and arguing constantly about what to do. When Faith tells Kennedy to shut up, it is highly satisfying. Spike has one of his greatest moments in the show when he finds Buffy after she was banished her from the house. His speech to Buffy is pure and heartfelt, and when Buffy asks him to stay and hold her it is one of the most romantic, intimate scenes in the whole show. In contrast to everyone else who seems to just having sex for instant physical gratification, the Spike/Buffy scene is so much more meaningful as opposed to these. However, an interesting exchange between Faith and Wood before they 'get it on', but the Spike/Buffy scene is so much more emotional. The incredible scene at the end when Buffy finds Mʔ stuck in the rock, it sets up the next episode nicely. Caleb, now knows if she gets her hands on it she will get her revenge on him. A great episode approaching the end of the show, but feel it will be remembered for the Spike/Buffy scene in the house bedroom, where is the writing like this today, this is why so many people keep coming back to shows like BTVS and Angel as the writing and storytelling are so brilliant, and when younger people come across the Buffyverse shows they become totally engrossed in them.
A heck of a reaction girl. It does have everything. And Spike 's the star 🌟. I'm sorry i can give only one thumbs up. Make it count like a hundred, please. Cheers from Italy. Dan 🧡
I was sooo waiting for your reaction to this one and it was as good as I thought it would be. You reacted to he speech scene same as me- crying and watching it over and over again 😂
I didn't catch this on the first watch, but although this episode confirms that Buffy's intuition about the vineyard was correct, it also pretty clearly demonstrates that her military tactics were wrong. The gang were right in not wanting to go back in a full-on assault, as what the situation actually called for was a swift one-woman raid. They still shouldn't have kicked her out of her house though!
Yes she was better on her own, which again proves that a Slayer stands alone. Kind of a hard and sad lesson to learn that even after 7 years, she still can't share her burden. Spoiler: Which is why it is even sweeter for her, how the finale turned out. Finally there are lots of girls to share the burden with. Hence her grin in the final shot.
Best speech a man can give to a woman for all the points you mentioned. Faith - did you notice how she told Spike during their little fight that she doesn't know where Buffy is? This nuanced tone Eliza put in there, showing that Faith worries about her? Also later on where she wished she would be with them. And First Wilkens pointed it out, that she wants to be loved by Buffy underlines this even more. If i would have money, connections and convincing charisma, i would hire Eliza and Sarah to film a scene similar to this with Buffy and Spike, just to close this open loop.. Don't need to see the clothless part, just the aftermath of it or even only holding each other fully dressed.
I love the juxtaposition in writing, how in this scenario Faith is the only one that wished Buffy was there. She worries about her and she didn't even want to kick her out and was the only one to go after her when Buffy walked out the door. The same Faith that tried so hard in S3 to either take over everything Buffy has, or destroy it. Spoiler: We kind of get a little scene with them, when Faith is still in bed recovering and Buffy shows her the axe. They finally and genuienly understand each other.
All the times Spike said this kinda crap, unable to truly understand what he was going on about, without a soul. Just the memory of it. An echo. Empty words. But *now* William knows what he's talking about.
So whenever i see this episode onalways thonk of the song crash and burn by savage garden. A perfect representation of their current relationship ❤. "When you feel all alone and the world has turned its back on you Give me a moment please to tame your wild, wild heart I know you feel like the walls are closing in on you It's hard to find relief and people can be so cold When darkness is upon your door And you feel like you can't take anymore Let me be the one you call If you jump, I'll break your fall Lift you up and fly away with you into the night If you need to fall apart, I can mend a broken heart If you need to crash then crash and burn You're not alone When you feel all alone and a loyal friend is hard to find You're caught in a one-way street with the monsters in your head When hopes and dreams are far away And you feel like you can't face the day Let me be the one you call If you jump, I'll break your fall Lift you up and fly away with you into the night If you need to fall apart, I can mend a broken heart If you need to crash then crash and burn You're not alone 'Cause there has always been heartache and pain And when it's over you'll breathe again You'll breathe again When you feel all alone and the world has turned its back on you Give me a moment please to tame your wild, wild heart Let me be the one you call If you jump, I'll break your fall Lift you up and fly away with you into the night If you need to fall apart, I can mend a broken heart If you need to crash then crash and burn You're not alone Let me be the one you call If you jump, I'll break your fall Lift you up and fly away with you into the night If you need to fall apart, I can mend a broken heart And if you need to crash then crash and burn You're not alone (alone) Let me be the one you call If you jump, I'll break your fall (you're not alone) Lift you up and fly away with you into the night (no, no, you're never alone) If you need to fall apart, I can mend a broken heart (you're not alone) If you need to crash then crash and burn You're not alone Let me be the one you call If you jump, I'll break your fall Lift you up and fly away with you into the night If you need to fall apart (you're not alone), I can mend a broken heart (no, no) And if you need to crash then crash and burn (you're never alone) You're not alone Let me be the one you call If you jump, I'll break your fall Lift you up and fly away with you into the night
Though I still can't forgive the show for having so terribly trashed the scoobies in the last episode, it was almost worth it to have Spike call them out for their horrible actions. Willow's impossibly lame attempt to justify it shows how even she knows it was indefensible. And, of course, without those actions we would never have had Spike's Speech (for years afterward my BtVS friends and I simply said Spike's Speech and we all knew what we were referring to). Whether or not a badly written premise is justified because it sets up a great and classic scene is another question.
Spikes speech is my favorite scene of the whole series. I can't count the times I watched it. And you hit the nail on the head... His words saved her and gave her strength and that the best character development for bloody ass poet.. ❤
@@yinloveyang the movie is set 15 years after the events of s6 ot something. And how is it not canon, it is it has all the characters And idc if you take as canon or not (even though it very clearly is) it's still a part of the teen wolf franchise
18:05 It’s true, Buffy has more experience, but as far as “The Slayer” goes; _Faith_ is the _true_ Slayer. The official daughter of Sineya. Buffy is an _anomaly._ this was confirmed by Giles in season two, when Kendra was called.
Don't care because Faith sucks as a slayer. Am I good, am I bad, am I good, am I bad, the whole thing became annoying as hell. Never liked her character and never will .
@@peterwright6721 oh hallelujah, I thought I was the only one who felt this way about Faith lol she irritates more every time I do a rewatch. I honestly don't get the love.
What Spike says to Buffy in the bedroom scene should really hit home for Buffy. Despite Buffy and Angel being soulmates and true loves, no-one knows or understands Buffy like Spike - and no-one knows or understands Angel like Cordelia. Never would I have thought that Cordy and Spike would be the closest friends to Buffy and Angel respectively. And while I don’t ship Spiffy or Corngle(?) it’s very interesting to see how these characters and the relationships evolved.
Except the writers on the show said buffy and spike belong together also Alyson Hannigan said spike is the man buffy is meant to grow Into and end up with. Spoiler They are very happy in the comic. In fact Xander encouraged the relationship and everyone has said it's the happiest they have ever seen her. The only reason they broke them up at the very end(when the comic was ending for good) is because they didn't want to upset the angel fans and had to end it with her being single 🙄. So ya even the writers on the show have admitted they are meant to be along side Alyson Hannigan who also agreed. Saying spike is the man buffy is meant to grow into.
@@meggo329SMG herself as well writers in the show stated that _Angel_ was the man for Buffy. In any case, I don’t think Buffy and Spike make a good romantic pairing, and Angel and Cordelia was atrocious as a concept. I’m not saying Angel and Buffy are the only romantic options for each other - only that I don’t like Spiffy very much. And that Corngel I was always vehemently against. I’m just stating that the person that knows Buffy the best and is closest to her is Spike. And that the person that knows Angel the best and the closest person to him is Cordelia - and how that’s something I never would have expected to see, given where the four characters started out from.
It WAS Buffys decision to leave. It’s all in the dialogue. She could’ve stayed if she thought she could follow and not be leader but she decided she couldn’t stay! It’s all in there in real life words.
The writing around this part is rather forced, and it reminds me of the last season of Game of Thrones (not as bad as that last season, but similar flaws). People making stupid and crazy decisions just to force the narrative in a particular direction, and the dialogue gets really unnatural, and I was originally pretty much putting up with it just because I wanted to know how the series ended. It does get better by the end, but I don't want to spoil anything for anyone.
Spike, the ultimate simp. Then after this speech, Buffy proceeds to go make out with her toxic ex-boyfriend and tell that same toxic ex-boyfriend that while she can't be with him right now, because this simp is still in her life. She'll eventually be available and they'll get together then. When the simp confronts her about them making out, she brushes it off with some jokes and basically tells the simp to get over it. He does.
😂😂😂That's Joss Whedon.... and if I'm not mistaken Buffy and Spike are in the comics together go and read them if you are so miserable that Buffy and Angel are a part of this series finale ... you won't make us feel bad that we love Angel more than Spike I like Spikey but heart wants what it wants!!! 😅😊
@@yinloveyang Where did I ever say that I liked Spike and Buffy more than Angel and Buffy. Or that I didn't want Angel in the series finale. I just pointed out exactly what happened. Are you denying that Angel and Buffy had a toxic relationship? Are you denying that Spike super simped to Buffy only to have her run off and start making out with her ex-boyfriend? Are you denying that after Spike confronts Buffy about it, she plays it off with jokes and then basically tells him to get over it.
I personally think Kennedy gets way more hate than she deserves. Of course I prefer Tara as a character and love interest for Willow, but Kennedy is far from the worst character in the Buffyverse (which is where she is often ranked). Gavin Park? The VPs of Wolfram and Hart before Lilah? Graham (Riley’s other military friend)? Heck, half the other Potentials are at least as poor of characters. Principal Flutee? Tucker?
If Kennedy wasn't "forced" to be with Willow by the writers, she could have been quite an intriguing character. She knows her weapons, she can handle herself, she is trained and she is ready for the fight. She is just a little too bossy for a character like Willow, for my taste.
What was wrong with Graham? He was always a supportive friend to Riley, never badmouthed Buffy. Also, the actor was the only one in The Initiative who seemed to me to capture the look and bearing of a genuine soldier. I liked him. I can't argue with you about most of the Potentials, though. Most were poorly written and/or poorly cast.
@@DanielOrme Graham doesn’t have a personality. He is purely a follower and has no thoughts of his own… you know what, you’ve convinced me: he really is the perfect soldier.
Kennedy was an arrogant cow. Thinking her relationship with Willow means she should have her voice heard more than any of the others. It's just like if some dude came in and said, "Hi, I'm Anya's new boyfriend. Now he's how we're going to do this..." She needed to take several steps back and realize that banging Willow doesn't make her one of the crew. And it certainly doesn't give her the right to manipulate Willow into pushing Buffy aside.
Literal decades later and that Spike speech is still my favorite declaration of selfless love I have ever seen on TV. As I once said, the build up and ups and downs in Buffy's relationship with Spike leading to the payoff found in this scene made this whole show worth it for me for that speech scene alone. Bravo!
Only to have Buffy runoff and start making out with her toxic ex-boyfriend. Then when he confronts her about it. She plays it off with jokes and basically tells him to get over it
@@alexh8613 Well, to requote Spike's words from the speech, he doesn't love her because he can't have her.
@@lichcoin6144 and that's sad and pathetic. He tells her how he's loved her. How he's seen her at her highs and lows and still loves everything about her. Then within 24 hours, she's off making out with her toxic ex-boyfriend. And when he confronts her about it, her reaction is to basically tell him to get over it. It's so messed up.
The prop eas sold at auction. This is what was on the note
"Spike,
You told me things last night that I really needed to hear. I feel stronger now because of you. I know what my mission is and that Caleb's holding the secret to it all. This one I have to take care of alone. You take care too.
--Buffy”
God it kills me
She proceeds to go make out with her toxic ex-boyfriend and tell that same toxic ex-boyfriend that while she can't be with him right now, because this simp is still in her life. She'll eventually be available and they'll get together then. When the simp confronts her about them making out, she brushes it off with some jokes and basically tells the simp to get over it. He does.
Remember the little Fear Demon when Buffy was in College? “They’re all going to abandon you, you know?”..”yeah, yeah..!..SQUASH!” The best thing about The Speech was that Spike didn’t extoll Buffy as the Slayer, but reminds her that her true power is as a result of her being a “hell of a woman.” That’s the whole point of the series Joss was trying to make. Buffy’s real strength never came from her powers as a Slayer, but from what she got from her mom, her friends, Giles, Angel, even what she learned from the Council and the Big Bads she fought.
Love your reaction! Cried again. It really is the best speech ever. It shows what a deep understanding Spike has of who Buffy is and how much he loves her completely and at last without expecting anything from her.
Buffy's intuition has been right the entire series. Multiple times each season she has a hunch about something, and everyone thinks she is wrong. Every time she ends up being right
Love spikes speeches❤ he put them in there place
The most romantic scene of the entire series.
And then Buffy proceeds to go make out with her toxic ex-boyfriend literally the next night
Spike even soulless knew what made people tick, but back then he used it maliciously. That's why no one had anything to say when he threw it back at them, they knew they messed up. Faith has never been a "team player", she was on her own most of the time, she's been behind bars and hasn't been a "slayer" for a while now, even if the line runs through her. The first knows that Buffy is its real threat and they are so self-centered that they can't tell that it's tryna isolate her from them. Notice how that night they're finding comfort in "flesh" while Buffy and Spike are just holding each other.
I love the speech Spike gives Buffy about his love for her. While soulless he's told her he's loved her many times, but its never been believable because he was soulless. He couldn't entire mean it even when he thought it was the truth because he didn't fully understand love. Many fans agreed with the sentiments in his S3's speech to Buffy and Angel, but at the end of the day, being love's bitch isn't love. It's an obsession. While soulless he could claim his love was about the other one, but it was really about him. Now, with a soul, it isn't about him. And what he said to Buffy and Angel in S3 is true because their relationship had always been wrong because it was an underage girl in said position Spike was talking to them of. This whole paragraph all shows a huge difference between soulless characters and non-soulless characters.
I have issues with the group in this episode as a result of the last episode, and while Spike takes care of a lot of it in this episode, there is one thing I will always have issue with no matter if things get fixed between them or not: Buffy was kicked out for walking into a trap where Xander lost an eye, despite the fact that she warned them in advance that it was a trap and that things like that would happen in war. Faith is the only one I see who didn't play a part in it and tried to apologize for the fact that it happened. The group replaced Buffy with Faith (dividing them bcause of in-fighting - which is exactly what The First wanted and another thing Buffy warned the group against) who has walked them into an even more obvious trap, when they assumed they were going to find a smoking gun Buffy was telling them was at the vineyard. Are they next going to kick Faith out as well... if they or she is alive to do so, that is? It would be hypocritical if they didn't try. This isn't an actual question. I was being rhetorical because of how The Scoobies (minus Faith, but plus the SIT's) acted towards Buffy in the last episode.
The actor who played the Mayor had just enough tme in a busy schedule to fit this guest apperance in. He actually called them up and said if you can fit me in during this time in a week or two I'll have a small window. The writers re-wrote that part of this episode's script.
Sophie, your analysis is always so good. I've watched the series many times, watched reactors react. But you indicate plot and character layers that I have never considered before. Thanks.
Spike's spech is literally everything a woman wants to hear.
He gets us. We don't want to hear that we're just pretty or whatever, this is what we want !
We want to hear that we're incredilble, strong and good enough.
The way he comforted and motivated her when everybody literally turned their back on her...that's a real MAN here !
Also couldn't care less about the others whereabouts. i was done with them since they kicked her out of her own house. like this could've been a whole episode starring Sarah and James only and I would've been happy
So what is Buffy's response to this speech. Witthin 24 hours, she goes and makes out with her toxic ex-boyfriend. Meanwhile, super simp Spike watches the whole thing. Then when he confronts her, she plays it off with jokes about oil wrestling, and then basically says get over it.
The next two episodes are truly epic.
Who thought it was a good idea to follow Tara up with someone who was her exact opposite? Tara was humble, kind-hearted, talented, helpful, charming, and with strong moral character, and instead we have... Kennedy.
anybody they would have chosen would have fallen short for the Tara-Willow lovers. She got over it, 20+ years later you people should do the same
her exact opposite was, dare i say it, the *obvious* thing to do. you want someone to try to _replace_ tara?
@@sirmoonslosthismind Tara's own words: You make a place for her in your heart. Obviously no one wants to replace her but you move on or stagnate
Willow was friends with Tara before their relationship became romantic. They liked each other's personalities, behaviors, even their quirks. They strengthened each other, even when one had to protect the other from herself.
Whereas Kennedy is dislikable as a person. She's nasty, spoiled, and full of herself. She encourages Willow to fall off the wagon, and in not recognizing the danger -- the lesson that Tara lost her life while trying to make Willow learn what she desperately needed to -- is pushing Willow to be her worst self instead of her best self.
But maybe the writers thought that modern audiences would like to see that in a character, reflecting the ideals that they are taught to embody and that would empower them.
@@menachemsalomon
you're nasty; kennedy is nothing of the sort.
Let the record show that Buffy was proven right about her insecurities. She told the therapy Vamp she felt simultaneously superior and inferior to her friends and family and couldn’t trust any of them. Outside of Joyce, Tara (her love confession with spike), and spike himself she has no one she can trust or turn to. Spike is literally all she has but Giles and the scoobies had something say about it Smdh.
Giving Spike a soul was the final development of the character in his Buffy show. His personality was different to Ange,l and his unfiltered bluntness was needed to pull up other characters quickly.
This is one of the episodes that I think really redeemed Spike as a character and it's beautiful because it reaches backwards.
One would think having a seeming character reversal from 'Seeing Red' to right now, Spike being the only one of all her friends to be A RIDE!
Buffy's relationship with all the people in that house is special and deep and long or some mixture of those. These are valuable relationships with people that she has established that are stronger than most average relationships. But there comes a time, when the world is basically ending in this case, when ... "heavy is the head that holds the crown" or to speak 😮💨 even if it's only one time in a lifetime, She is going to have the memory that Spike was the only person on HER SIDE!!
This allows us to accept earlier season 7 with a more open heart then we might have been going into it, after the episode that I NEVER watch! It's so out of character and horrible at the end of season 6. I literally black it out.
Yay so excited
❤🧡💛💚💙💜🤎🖤🤍
Whenever Buffy and Spike physically abuse Faith, I'm reminded of how a lot of Faith's anger came from being physically abused by her mother, and it bothers me. Anyone else feel this way?
What bothers me more is the fact that not a single Slayer ever learns how to defend. They can throw a lot of big punshed, but just as often they stare directly into the fist that is about to hit their head.... Girl, at least raise your arms to not get punshed full force 😅
@@evatesche Buffy does, like an amazing revelation: "Wait a sec... I don't have to let the bad guy hit me!"
Beg pardon, but is that datum about Faith in the series or something introduced in the comics or commentary? Because I don't remember it, and barely remember Faith referencing her mother at all, except as a reparte: "My mother hits harder than that."
Nope lol she has physically abused pretty much all of them at one point.
Plot hole: When Spike finds Buffy, he says 'you were right' about something being hidden at the vineyard. Except she only figured that out after Spike had left, so he wouldn't know about that, or her plan to go back there. Whoops! xD
Oh,so *_this_* is a plot hole people detect,but not VampSandy,uh?;-P
@@Nicamon To be fair, with Sandy, there was a lot of off-screen time where she could have potentially been turned, even if it's kind of silly. There is no off-screen moment where Spike could have learned of Buffy's plan to go back to the vineyard, though. 😛
@@othergrimm6592 They explained in ep 1x01 that vampires don't take anyone's"leftovers",that it's _rare_ for vamps to turn humans and that"mostly they're just gonna kill them"and that you can't be already dead if you have to be turned.Sandy was *dead.* Period! VampWill's line explains it,the lore explains it,only the fans are stubborn enough to still deny it after all these DECADES!😵
@@Nicamon not entirely with you there, VampWillow:s plan was to increase the numbers of her followers so it makes perfect sense that she turned Sandy.
@@Henrik_Holst Why does *everyone* forget/ignore what VampWill SAYS when she attacks Sandy???🤦♂"If you're all good boys&girls we'll make you young and strong forever and ever. We'll have fun."(AKA we'll turn you into vampires)"IF YOU'RE NOT...(turns and bites Sandy and she drops her on the floor instead of letting Sandy bite her to transform her)"
Which part of"IF YOU'RE NOT"you guys SKIP every single time???🤦♂It _CLEARELY_ implies that she *KILLED* Sandy as an example to say:"Don't try to rebel to us!"!!!
thats why some people are pro spuffy, just only for this scene, but they forgot he tried to rape her before (without soul i don't care, he pretended to love her without it, his action didn't depend to his soul or not)
that"s why a true relation couldn't really happened between them.
Spike loved her, but she can't
*Thank you!!!* I will never understand whoever says they are the best ship. I can understand not shipping Bangel,I will never understand seriously shipping Spuffy!X-[
Actually people hated spike the entire time and that sa scene was an excuse no one would ever argue against. Still to this day there are die hard bangle shippers that will try to argue and when the spuffy person doesn’t budge they claim anyone who likes spike as a character also likes SA. It’s become an extreme issue honestly.
Buffy loved him always and was in denial long before that SA scene. Spike knows her remember? He called her out several times about hiding her feelings for him. There was an entire episode where she almost killed everyone in order to prevent spike from telling them the truth. What people also don’t want to talk about is the reality that the SA scene was the natural climax of BOTH spike AND Buffy’s toxic behaviors. She was mentally, emotionally, and physically abusive towards spike. Based on both of their comments we know their sex life was filled with very…. Violent and even questionable kinks. Their first time was initiated by Buffy after repeatedly beating the crap out of each other and breaking stone walls in an abandoned building. She ran from her feelings, lashed out with hurtful words towards spike, spike responded with aggression and violent force, and the only think different??? Buffy was serious about not wanting him. This time….. every other time she would give in or actively seek HIM out. That type of extreme toxicity doesn’t just go away over night. Should it have gone that far?? No however it was extremely well done but the core audience of the original airing wouldn’t have been in a mental space to look at it from the writers perspective. Or the perspective of storytelling. They saw their hero get SAd by a man that said he loved her. All the lead ups be damned.
That’s how the pay off actually works and makes sense though. Because they are perfect for each other even in their evil/toxic identities.
so angel gets a pass for all the stuff he did when he had no soul because it was not him but spike gets condemned for something he did when he had no soul when it's been stated that a vampire without a soul is not the same person who was killed. spike remembers everything that soulless spike did but it was not him it's like something else had control of his body now he has finally his body back. he did not do that to Buffy it was not him. if you don't get that you don't understand you don't understand how the show works.
@@McCabe86 angelus didnt know buffy before angel, angel was the first to know and love Buffy, (and with time its not impossible that angelus could love her like spike did without soul, but angelus didn't appear for a long time)
spike loved her since have a soul, because he known buffy before have a soul, this is not the same thing with angel
spike loved buffy but his love was self-centered
i often hear: the buffy spike relationship is more mature than that of Buffy and angel
it's completely false
Buffy and Angel continue to love each other through the ages, Angel left to give Buffy freedom of the future with a mortal
Buffy and Spike was essentially based on sex, and an unhealthy relationship
and attempted rape
it doesn't matter that spike has his soul now, in a credible way, there is too much evil between them engraved in the past that makes stories impossible
i really think buffy forgave him by having real consideration for him at the end, but it can't be more in my opinion, it would be too much (please don't count the comics lol)
@@vikkidonn The fact 1 or 2 people have feelings for each other doesn't automatically make them a good healthy couple.Spike&Drusilla had feelings for each other...would you call them healthy?Angelus&Darla had feelings for each other...would you called them healthy?The Mayor had a genuine form of affection towards Faith and viceversa...would you call _their_ relationship healthy?Buffy may have feelings for Spike...this is *not enough* to make the Spuffy a ship worth shipping!
"the SA scene was the natural climax of BOTH Spike AND Buffy’s toxic behaviors. She was mentally, emotionally and physically abusive towards Spike." *Exactly!!!* That's what I just said!Just because the Spuffy feel something for each other *doesn't mean they are a good couple!!!* (And for the record this is *the exact same thing* I think about the Craptain Swan from"Once Upon a Time"that have *such a similar dynamic.* Who knows,knows.)
Sofie, you watching Spike's speech three times- I love you 😂
I've enjoyed your reactions so much, you just get the nuances and motivations of the characters so well which makes it so fun to watch your interpretations and reactions to what's going on.
She really is a great reactor. Her Buffy & Firefly reactions are some of my all time favorite reactions from anyone. I always enjoy a reactor that pays attention, gets the humor & understands character nuance & Sofie does all that at a very high level.
When Spike was a human he was the type of person who DID sit back and observe the way people behaved, maybe because he was so desperate to fit in, but it carried through all his years as a vampire too. Now, he's excellent at reading people - especially their worst actions due to who he was around as a vampire - and he's fantastic at cutting through the BS. He's also great at really seeing Buffy... because who do you watch more than the person you're in love with? And, as shown in the speech, he really understands and loves her. It took 6 seasons, but Buffy and Spike are finally the best couple on the show.
It's ironic the fact that I've always hated Spike,but at the same time I feel I have so many things in common with him.
He craved human connection. I think he was too sheltered that's why he wasn't able to fit in. He seemed like a decent man who could be brave if it came down to it. He was a desperate romantic and people clowned him for it. He is really good with his words when they're authentic. When Willow was going through a heartbreak and everyone was in denial, he was the only one who saw it, even as a soulless vampire. He used it as a way to cause chaos when he was souless. He's a true empath.
@@user-dx2dm8oq8g Yes. And while he was souless _and consistent_ he was a _dark_ empath,like in"The Yoko Factor".
@@Nicamon It's ironic that you're in the small small SMAAAALL minority that hates Spike, yet you're so insecure about it you keep posting the same long-winded repetitive diatribes trying to convince people, even though they ALWAYS have an EXCELLENT fool-proof counter-argument to your silly argument. Seriously, everyone knows what your (wrong) opinion is. You've been yapping about in reaction comment sections for YEARS. Why not just accept you're in the small minority and keep the essay-long replies to yourself?
UA-cam keeps deleting your replies? Well, TAKE A HINT.
When you read about how traumatized James was by what happened in Seeing Red, you've got to feel awful for the actor. But if he was able to turn that pain into something that made this episode happen? I don't want to say "worth it" - but an amazing show of talent and personal strength.
Spike’s speech is when we all became Andrew from Storytime😂. I literally cannot fathom the number of times I rewatched that scene.
Girl that scene… 😭🖤🥹
This speech is just incredibly beautiful and the most beautiful declaration of selfless love. Buffy needed to hear this. And it was the perfect time to say those words to her. Great reaction as usual, Sofie. ;-)
Ahhh!!! I watched this reaction months ago on your Patreon, but when I saw you posted this, I just had to rewatch it, and here I am crying again :) I love this episode and that speech so much, but most of all, I love your reactions and analysis of these characters. Hands down the smartest and most empathetic reactor of this show. I miss you, Sofie
"You are a hell of a woman"
Those exact words that are pulling Buffy back on her feet have been spoken before and have had the same effect. Riley in S6 "As you were" said it to Buffy and gave her the strength to end the toxic relationship with Spike at that time and turn back into the light.
I love the reccurring phrase.
The speech was my fav too of all buffy 🎉❤❤.... Spike grew the most .. he came full circle... good to bad to good... Buffy was always Solid good thru it all. I'm so glad you gave Spike forgiveness ❤ ... it has a stronger meaning of the power of forgiveness.. 🤯🥳🥳
Spike's confession is one of the most sincere moments of the show. The words Buffy deserved and needed to hear❤ It's crazy to think about Buffy and Spike's first encounter in season 2, and then we get this scene... God I love this show.
I *would* have love it if 90% of Spike's character development didn't happen when he still didn't have a soul,which makes the whole thing invalid from my point of view.X-[
@Nicamon How does that invalidate it? It makes it even better imo.
@@circling-girl No because if souless beings can become Good it means having a soul is useless and Slayers are mass murderers.Think about it...what does Spike need a soul for?He's ALREADY behaving like a human!What difference does it make having a soul?It makes him slightly more empathic?THAT'S IT???That's all you need a soul for???Then why should Buffy be allowed to kill vampires?Why should she feel guilty only when she kills humans?Why should she spare *WARREN* that is a *much worse being than Spike* only because HE has a soul???If you make Spike develop without a soul *the entire premise of the show crushes and crumbles on itself!*
@@circling-girl I'm sure I had already replied to this comment. I think UA-cam deleted my reply. BTW no because if a souless being can become Good just like a souled one,then having a soul has no meaning and the Slayers shouldn't be allowed to exterminate souless beings like they do.
Season 7 may be kind of boring in the middle but it has moments of such exquisite beauty, mostly with Spike/Buffy.
I agree with you, 100% ! With everything you said about Buffy, Spike's rant to the scoobies and his beautiful speech to Buffy. And everything you said about this episodes or the characters in this video, really XD !
That speech makes me cry every time ! I'm not a romantic person, I easily find those speeches and declarations cheesy. But that speech is the most beautiful thing I've ever heard someone say to another person (on TV, books or movies...). It's so selfless and perfectly said...
That was a terrific reaction to an amazing scene. Sofie, you made that scene even more beautiful for me, and I thank you.
Best speech ever? maybe. Best reaction ever? yep.
I noticed Sofie was nearing the end of BtVS about 2 months ago, and I decided I would watch all her Buffy reactions on youtube. I've just caught up ready for the last episodes. What a great reactor!
Spike this far into his relationship with the Scoobies is known as the guy that can see straight through anything and see it for what it is, ever since 3x8 where Spike tells Buffy and Angel the truth on their relationship. The Scoobies were tense when he returned because they knew they couldn't pull the wool over his eyes, but imo it's also why Buffy pushes him away at first. Spike out of everyone in her life is the only one that sees her for what she is and loves her for it, which is something Buffy doesn't get from anyone else and can't do for herself in most situations, this scene resulting in her listening to him and accepting what he says as the truth is a beautiful one.
Yeah they knew they fucked up but went along with it to save face.
You are the best reactor to Btvs and to Spuffy! You understand Spuffy and Spike exactly as I do and as Spuffy shippers in common. Cried and laughed with you. Thank you 😊❤
“Then lay a hand on me…”
God I love Buffy! She’s an icon!
Quueeeennn! ❤
I have some issues in that season especially other writting chatacters except Spike and Buffy. James is a really great actor and Buffy is clearly the best female chatacter ever created.
In the USA probably Buffy is in top 10...
.... we has had authors in my country the Czech Republic that made better characters. For example you might know a female writer named Bozena Nemcova.
@@yinloveyang im a fan i just talked about this season
Oh my spuffy heart ❤ they finally made love without even having sex.
Joyce/the first did keep saying you need to sleep. The whole season she has veen sleep deprived
Also look how fast wood went for faith he never cared for buffy just wanted to get with a slayer.
Unlike Spike, Wood never solved his mother issues…
No my dear just episode 20 ❤ ....yes its a amazing episode ...hope u enjoy the series finaly episode 21&22 i think it was awesome ...buffy will be 4ever one of the best tv series of all time. And this still over 20 years ago ...at least if u compared to shows from the last few years ...like the rings of power and all that marvel crap with that millions and millions of dollar what they had ,and looks what buffy did with nothing more or less...spike is and will be 4 ever awesome ...
sorry if you already answered this question before but why is there such a long wait between some of your reactions like buffy and angel?.
love your reactions.
Something I realized recently is that the First is probably the closest to how evil works in the real world. Evil isn’t demons or monsters or hyena people. Evil is that thing that whispers in your ear and says “you should do this because you want to” or “you /deserve/ this, even if others get hurt”, or “what you believe is right and you should do anything to make it true for everyone” or “be scared of those people over there, they’re out to get you”.
He still remains the most lame Big Bad of them all IMO.😓All he does is _talking_ you just need to do the exact opposite of what he says and 90% of the time you will save yourself pretty much all the troubles.
@@Nicamon But in real life there are too many who don't resist but follow the suggestions because it's more convenient.
@@Nicamon People get manipulated and influenced every day by lesser beings and lesser actions. If The First is getting people to do its bidding just by talking, then it's a lot more dangerous and effective than most villains. Is that as entertaining? Perhaps not.
@@cajah88 I don't know...think of Rumplestiltskin from"Once Upon a Time"...yes,he uses magic,but the greatest damages he does them by manipulating other characters and yet _he_ is a far more interesting,entertaining,charismatic _and_ threatening character than the First,IMO.
The point is that...if ALL it takes to convince the Heroes to do wrong things is _talking to them_ and not even manipulating them in a smart subtle way,but just telling them straight: "Buffy is a threat,you have to get rid of her."when *WE KNOW* Buffy is the most dangerous threat for the First,I don't think that the Villain is smart or powerful,I JUST THINK THE HEROES ARE *DUMB!!!* 🤦♂💢
@@ulrichs3061 But it's *_not_* more convenient,that's the point!! If the First manifested to Faith in S3 and told her to get rid of Buffy so she could have her friends and her Watcher(and perhaps even her boyfriend)all for herself,it would have made sense. But what does have Faith to gain *_now_* with Buffy gone?They're about to face the most dangerous Big Bad of them all(so they are told),they need ALL the help,ALL the allies and ALL the experience they can get...in what scenario getting rid of the most experienced Slayer is a smart move for *anyone???* 🤨 Why should Faith fall for such a speech NOW???
Hi, Sofie, thanks for your reaction to this episode, one of my favorites. I also can't help but tear up during Spike's speech. Truly one of the best, most profound moments of the entire series. Spike's arc was amazing. They put us through hell in S6, but I think it pays off here, and no matter how many times I watch this scene, I can never not cry and replay it multiple times. It's a thing of beauty, and so was your reaction.
Spikes speech is only possible because he has a soul now. The poet is back.
What’s even more impressive is that it sounds so off-the-cuff and natural.
Spike mocking the idea of Buffy making the "decision" to take a little time off in the middle of the apocalypse reminds me vaguely of some story or other I heard in the news recently. I can't really go into any more detail, but Spike's "Been practicing that long, have you?" is an absolute burn.
Bringing up that scene that shall not be mentioned, makes it not only that a sex scene could be troubling, but them just lying there, shows how much she trusts him now. THAT in itself is leaps and bounds.
The evolution of Buffy is almost complete. How can this be the same girl dropped off by Joyce on her first day at Sunnydale High ? Superb but how really different are Willow, Xander, and Giles ? Not outwardly but emotionally intelligent and morally mature?
Your reactions are always entertaining and thoughtful. One slight disagreement I have is the difference between Faith and Buffy. It’s more than experience in battle. Buffy has a moral compass that is mostly always true North. Buffy feels blame and sorrow that any Potential has died , but that speaks to her love of all life and her strength to care. It’s not the name of the person (though Buffy beats herself because she doesn’t know theirs) it’s the individual, the love of the living person, Buffy plans for victory in her battles but she always plans for her Army to have defenses. Buffy is always the lead and takes on the biggest and most dangerous herself. That’s not Faith .
Faith and Willow are shown having sex and Buffy is not. You said it best that Buffy is connecting on a different level than before. She is a woman and not depressed. Faith has not come close to separating true love from sex. Willow is satisfying a physical attraction and she is so different than she was with Oz and Tara. Willow is now older but has not gone through the process of becoming a well rounded emotional mature woman.
The last Season gets negative reviews from some fans but the story is about growing older for all and growing up for a few. You asked a question during your reaction to Intervention? You stated, “ Did they ever really know Buffy?” Or Buffy’s question/ statement… then you don’t know what a Slayer is ! The last 2 episodes answered the question, they really do not understand. Buffy is not perfect and has made mistakes. But she has never given up on Willow, Xander, Giles, or Dawn.
Spike's speech was effulgent. 😀
I've been waiting forever for you to get to this one, and I was NOT disappointed.
Yes! the way she ends up holding him by the morning is so good I can't. And how they just stare into each others eyes for an extended time, it's basically proven that if you hold a gaze with your lover you will feel more connected with them and more intimate, they truly had way more intimacy than the rest of them just banging each other just in case they die tomorrow.
*Well, if Spike & Buffy are involved, you have to expect something EPIC...* ⬅🔥😈🔥
Well, finally. Both the Buffy and Angel series are long overdue. It's real torture to wait so long for a reaction from you, SoFie.😊👍
when are you dropping the last episode of buffy i cant wait to see your reaction.
I recently discovered that Buffy's original line to Caleb was, "If someone didn't know you, they might think you were a woman-hating prick". But the network made them change "prick" to "jerk", which definitely doesn't have the same punch. That line never sat right with me and now I know why. And if any of you have ever seen Fast Times at Ridgemont High (and if you haven't, go watch now), then you know the power of that word. I am sure the BtVS writers were all familiar with that seminal film.
I'm not exaggerating when I say I've been waiting for you to see this speech since I've been watching your reactions. 🩵
‘Maybe the people who have been here longer should have more of a say’ 😭😭 never change, Kennedy
ahah Yeah that's so hypocritical of her... Funny Kennedy, very funny XD
"Fireback" is now the new hip way to say "backfire." For all the love, laughs, and tears SoFie has put into these reactions, we owe her one.
“I want the fireback!”
Spike's speech is one of the most beautiful speech I've ever heard on TV or in real lfe if that matters. My sister used it for her wedding
Joss Whedon - epic writing.
I’m really curious how Andrew would’ve reacted if he was there when they voted Buffy out, would he of of stood up for her even if Spike wasn’t there?
Hmm, I could imagine Andrew being uncomfortable ("why are we always yelling?") lol I dont think he would've been on the side of kicking her out though, same with Tara. He probably would've made some Star Wars/ Trek reference about fighting in the ranks or mutiny 😄
7:03 - What is it with Watchers and knives?
This is the episode that makes me believe that it was actually Joyce who appeared to Buffy and also Dawn in Conversations with Dead People.
Joyce said that Buffy needed to rest.
Being kicked out by the others and resting with Spike gave her that boost in a way to gather herself.
4:05 - Gee, when you put it like that, Spike, it sounds like the writers, I mean the Scoobies didn't really think this through, doesn't it?
i never comment.. or react.. to anything someone says but.. now i want to thank you for seeing and feeling, what we all feel for this show and the truth it hits in this scene 15.46.
thank you.
Touched was another great episode building up to Chosen and the end of the show. The total breakdown and chaos among the group just bickering and talking over each other and arguing constantly about what to do. When Faith tells Kennedy to shut up, it is highly satisfying. Spike has one of his greatest moments in the show when he finds Buffy after she was banished her from the house. His speech to Buffy is pure and heartfelt, and when Buffy asks him to stay and hold her it is one of the most romantic, intimate scenes in the whole show. In contrast to everyone else who seems to just having sex for instant physical gratification, the Spike/Buffy scene is so much more meaningful as opposed to these. However, an interesting exchange between Faith and Wood before they 'get it on', but the Spike/Buffy scene is so much more emotional. The incredible scene at the end when Buffy finds Mʔ stuck in the rock, it sets up the next episode nicely. Caleb, now knows if she gets her hands on it she will get her revenge on him. A great episode approaching the end of the show, but feel it will be remembered for the Spike/Buffy scene in the house bedroom, where is the writing like this today, this is why so many people keep coming back to shows like BTVS and Angel as the writing and storytelling are so brilliant, and when younger people come across the Buffyverse shows they become totally engrossed in them.
A heck of a reaction girl.
It does have everything.
And Spike 's the star 🌟.
I'm sorry i can give only one thumbs up.
Make it count like a hundred, please.
Cheers from Italy.
Dan 🧡
Really like they had Faith ask Wood "am I out of line?" To see how she's changed from her time with Xander and Riley
You did amazing gorgeous ❤❤❤100
Please finish it this week!!
I was sooo waiting for your reaction to this one and it was as good as I thought it would be. You reacted to he speech scene same as me- crying and watching it over and over again 😂
I didn't catch this on the first watch, but although this episode confirms that Buffy's intuition about the vineyard was correct, it also pretty clearly demonstrates that her military tactics were wrong. The gang were right in not wanting to go back in a full-on assault, as what the situation actually called for was a swift one-woman raid. They still shouldn't have kicked her out of her house though!
Yes she was better on her own, which again proves that a Slayer stands alone. Kind of a hard and sad lesson to learn that even after 7 years, she still can't share her burden.
Spoiler:
Which is why it is even sweeter for her, how the finale turned out. Finally there are lots of girls to share the burden with. Hence her grin in the final shot.
The thing that always got me…
Angel was ‘cursed’ with his soul twice…
Spike sought out his soul for love…
🙄
lol stop it it won't make me love Angel less.... but I can admire Spike more now.
Best speech a man can give to a woman for all the points you mentioned. Faith - did you notice how she told Spike during their little fight that she doesn't know where Buffy is? This nuanced tone Eliza put in there, showing that Faith worries about her? Also later on where she wished she would be with them. And First Wilkens pointed it out, that she wants to be loved by Buffy underlines this even more. If i would have money, connections and convincing charisma, i would hire Eliza and Sarah to film a scene similar to this with Buffy and Spike, just to close this open loop.. Don't need to see the clothless part, just the aftermath of it or even only holding each other fully dressed.
I love the juxtaposition in writing, how in this scenario Faith is the only one that wished Buffy was there. She worries about her and she didn't even want to kick her out and was the only one to go after her when Buffy walked out the door. The same Faith that tried so hard in S3 to either take over everything Buffy has, or destroy it.
Spoiler:
We kind of get a little scene with them, when Faith is still in bed recovering and Buffy shows her the axe. They finally and genuienly understand each other.
I'M NOT CRYING, YOU'RE CRYING!!
DAMN THOSE ONION NINJAS!
i'm DESPERATE to see you watch the last two episodes. DESPERATE.
All the times Spike said this kinda crap, unable to truly understand what he was going on about, without a soul. Just the memory of it. An echo. Empty words. But *now* William knows what he's talking about.
So whenever i see this episode onalways thonk of the song crash and burn by savage garden. A perfect representation of their current relationship ❤.
"When you feel all alone and the world has turned its back on you
Give me a moment please to tame your wild, wild heart
I know you feel like the walls are closing in on you
It's hard to find relief and people can be so cold
When darkness is upon your door
And you feel like you can't take anymore
Let me be the one you call
If you jump, I'll break your fall
Lift you up and fly away with you into the night
If you need to fall apart, I can mend a broken heart
If you need to crash then crash and burn
You're not alone
When you feel all alone and a loyal friend is hard to find
You're caught in a one-way street with the monsters in your head
When hopes and dreams are far away
And you feel like you can't face the day
Let me be the one you call
If you jump, I'll break your fall
Lift you up and fly away with you into the night
If you need to fall apart, I can mend a broken heart
If you need to crash then crash and burn
You're not alone
'Cause there has always been heartache and pain
And when it's over you'll breathe again
You'll breathe again
When you feel all alone and the world has turned its back on you
Give me a moment please to tame your wild, wild heart
Let me be the one you call
If you jump, I'll break your fall
Lift you up and fly away with you into the night
If you need to fall apart, I can mend a broken heart
If you need to crash then crash and burn
You're not alone
Let me be the one you call
If you jump, I'll break your fall
Lift you up and fly away with you into the night
If you need to fall apart, I can mend a broken heart
And if you need to crash then crash and burn
You're not alone (alone)
Let me be the one you call
If you jump, I'll break your fall (you're not alone)
Lift you up and fly away with you into the night (no, no, you're never alone)
If you need to fall apart, I can mend a broken heart (you're not alone)
If you need to crash then crash and burn
You're not alone
Let me be the one you call
If you jump, I'll break your fall
Lift you up and fly away with you into the night
If you need to fall apart (you're not alone), I can mend a broken heart (no, no)
And if you need to crash then crash and burn (you're never alone)
You're not alone
Let me be the one you call
If you jump, I'll break your fall
Lift you up and fly away with you into the night
Though I still can't forgive the show for having so terribly trashed the scoobies in the last episode, it was almost worth it to have Spike call them out for their horrible actions. Willow's impossibly lame attempt to justify it shows how even she knows it was indefensible. And, of course, without those actions we would never have had Spike's Speech (for years afterward my BtVS friends and I simply said Spike's Speech and we all knew what we were referring to).
Whether or not a badly written premise is justified because it sets up a great and classic scene is another question.
Spikes speech is my favorite scene of the whole series. I can't count the times I watched it. And you hit the nail on the head... His words saved her and gave her strength and that the best character development for bloody ass poet.. ❤
You should react to teen wolf, its an amazing show.
But without the movie since I don't take it as a canon.
@@yinloveyang the movie is set 15 years after the events of s6 ot something.
And how is it not canon, it is it has all the characters
And idc if you take as canon or not (even though it very clearly is) it's still a part of the teen wolf franchise
@@ParadiseEdits14 hmmm 15 years.... they look quite young for that☺️
I dont know how anyone could not love Spike after this scene
Love is a deep word.... you can't use it for anyone.... but yeah I like him. 😊
❤🧡💛💚💙💜
18:05 It’s true, Buffy has more experience, but as far as “The Slayer” goes; _Faith_ is the _true_ Slayer. The official daughter of Sineya. Buffy is an _anomaly._ this was confirmed by Giles in season two, when Kendra was called.
Don't care because Faith sucks as a slayer. Am I good, am I bad, am I good, am I bad, the whole thing became annoying as hell. Never liked her character and never will .
@@peterwright6721 Calm down, ma’am.
But Buffy is the better slayer in every sense. So anomaly or not, doesn’t matter
@@peterwright6721 oh hallelujah, I thought I was the only one who felt this way about Faith lol she irritates more every time I do a rewatch. I honestly don't get the love.
@@ninipookie Agreed.
Hello sofia ❤❤❤❤
What Spike says to Buffy in the bedroom scene should really hit home for Buffy.
Despite Buffy and Angel being soulmates and true loves, no-one knows or understands Buffy like Spike - and no-one knows or understands Angel like Cordelia.
Never would I have thought that Cordy and Spike would be the closest friends to Buffy and Angel respectively. And while I don’t ship Spiffy or Corngle(?) it’s very interesting to see how these characters and the relationships evolved.
Except the writers on the show said buffy and spike belong together also Alyson Hannigan said spike is the man buffy is meant to grow Into and end up with.
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They are very happy in the comic. In fact Xander encouraged the relationship and everyone has said it's the happiest they have ever seen her. The only reason they broke them up at the very end(when the comic was ending for good) is because they didn't want to upset the angel fans and had to end it with her being single 🙄. So ya even the writers on the show have admitted they are meant to be along side Alyson Hannigan who also agreed. Saying spike is the man buffy is meant to grow into.
@@meggo329SMG herself as well writers in the show stated that _Angel_ was the man for Buffy.
In any case, I don’t think Buffy and Spike make a good romantic pairing, and Angel and Cordelia was atrocious as a concept. I’m not saying Angel and Buffy are the only romantic options for each other - only that I don’t like Spiffy very much. And that Corngel I was always vehemently against.
I’m just stating that the person that knows Buffy the best and is closest to her is Spike. And that the person that knows Angel the best and the closest person to him is Cordelia - and how that’s something I never would have expected to see, given where the four characters started out from.
Joss literally ship them as do other writers. She's also with him in the comics. But you can have your opinion@@arc7375
Joss ships spike and buffys as do a lot of the writers not mention shes with spike in the comics
It WAS Buffys decision to leave. It’s all in the dialogue. She could’ve stayed if she thought she could follow and not be leader but she decided she couldn’t stay! It’s all in there in real life words.
i will never not want tara back, but i really loved kennedy as a character and love interest
The writing around this part is rather forced, and it reminds me of the last season of Game of Thrones (not as bad as that last season, but similar flaws). People making stupid and crazy decisions just to force the narrative in a particular direction, and the dialogue gets really unnatural, and I was originally pretty much putting up with it just because I wanted to know how the series ended. It does get better by the end, but I don't want to spoil anything for anyone.
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Hope u watch more charmed soon!
Spike, the ultimate simp. Then after this speech, Buffy proceeds to go make out with her toxic ex-boyfriend and tell that same toxic ex-boyfriend that while she can't be with him right now, because this simp is still in her life. She'll eventually be available and they'll get together then. When the simp confronts her about them making out, she brushes it off with some jokes and basically tells the simp to get over it. He does.
😂😂😂That's Joss Whedon.... and if I'm not mistaken Buffy and Spike are in the comics together go and read them if you are so miserable that Buffy and Angel are a part of this series finale ... you won't make us feel bad that we love Angel more than Spike I like Spikey but heart wants what it wants!!! 😅😊
@@yinloveyang Where did I ever say that I liked Spike and Buffy more than Angel and Buffy. Or that I didn't want Angel in the series finale. I just pointed out exactly what happened. Are you denying that Angel and Buffy had a toxic relationship? Are you denying that Spike super simped to Buffy only to have her run off and start making out with her ex-boyfriend? Are you denying that after Spike confronts Buffy about it, she plays it off with jokes and then basically tells him to get over it.
I personally think Kennedy gets way more hate than she deserves. Of course I prefer Tara as a character and love interest for Willow, but Kennedy is far from the worst character in the Buffyverse (which is where she is often ranked). Gavin Park? The VPs of Wolfram and Hart before Lilah? Graham (Riley’s other military friend)? Heck, half the other Potentials are at least as poor of characters. Principal Flutee? Tucker?
If Kennedy wasn't "forced" to be with Willow by the writers, she could have been quite an intriguing character. She knows her weapons, she can handle herself, she is trained and she is ready for the fight. She is just a little too bossy for a character like Willow, for my taste.
What was wrong with Graham? He was always a supportive friend to Riley, never badmouthed Buffy. Also, the actor was the only one in The Initiative who seemed to me to capture the look and bearing of a genuine soldier. I liked him.
I can't argue with you about most of the Potentials, though. Most were poorly written and/or poorly cast.
@@DanielOrme Maybe she confused him with Forrest? 🤷♀
@@DanielOrme Graham doesn’t have a personality. He is purely a follower and has no thoughts of his own… you know what, you’ve convinced me: he really is the perfect soldier.
Kennedy was an arrogant cow. Thinking her relationship with Willow means she should have her voice heard more than any of the others. It's just like if some dude came in and said, "Hi, I'm Anya's new boyfriend. Now he's how we're going to do this..." She needed to take several steps back and realize that banging Willow doesn't make her one of the crew. And it certainly doesn't give her the right to manipulate Willow into pushing Buffy aside.