Lol. I worked with a mechanic in high school who demonstrated the difference between vaporized gasoline vs liquid. He dropped a lit cig in a small bucket of gasoline. The cig went out. We all lived to work another day.
My dad and his buddy (back in the ‘50’s) used to keep an open bucket of gasoline in the hay barn where they worked on their cars for putting their cigarettes out. He said they got a kick out of it every time. Don’t believe what you see on TV and in movies, folks.
Yup!! Back in the Navy days, had a big JP5 spill on the flight deck. I was standing in the middle of it when a buddy threw a lit Zippo at me. Of course, i didnt catch it, and.... Nothing happened.😳 My brain thought i was about to die a horrible death, and i might've had a brown alert, but I learned a lil somthin...
Tony for many years, if I wanted to feel a bit better about myself, and realize I am not as stupid as I sometimes feel, I would go read youtube comments and suddenly I would realize I am not an idiot... thousands of them are, but not me.
Tony will be the proud owner of what I am sure will be the only slant six swapped miata in existence. I'm super interested to see how it drives after it's all done.
@@Kenjh71 that's a down right stupid comment, the 170 will be a few inches longer and weigh MAYBE 100lbs more, but the car will have lost its AC power steering and countless other items that would more than make up for any weight gain. A BP (an engine that came in this car and in no way made it a pig) comes in at about 300lbs, a 225 weighs about 475lbs in its heaviest iterations, a 170 weighs signigantly less already and is likely to get some weight removed during the swap. Answer me this.... if Tony said he was keeping the stock engine but adding a turbo would you protest that the 100lbs of turbo kit would turn it into a pig? Or have you not actually given this any real thought?
@@Kenjh71 Yep. Slant six is a couple hundred pounds more. He'll have to go watch Donut Media videos to see how to get it handling right.😜 Then again, the alternative is-- the Miata goes to the junkyard...
You’ve never seen LS or 350sbc swapped Miatas... have you? Let alone all the people that do Toyota 1/2JZs lol. They handle that extra weight like a fucking champ.
The only thing is. He says "they are cheap, easy to work on, and laying everywhere". But for most of us, we haven't seen an old slant 6 or a 318 sitting around in years... Except in Craigslist listings for said 58-72 something another for $15000...
I love you, Uncle Tony! I'm 61 and have a stock 95 Miata that my dad willed to me when he died in 2004. He lived in Morro Bay CA. She's been here in Free State NH with me since then. 145K and running like a top. Lots of parts replaced but still no front end bushings or ball joints, or power train stuff. Even the CV booties and exhaust are original... never seen salt. :)
There are a lot of people who don't fabricate or think outside of the box. They only see what is there and can only imagine it how it is now. It is easy to see that tony can think outside of the box and shape projects to their desired purpose. Tony, whenever I am feeling frustrated about people doubting me or saying that I am wrong I watch your channel channel and I feel better listening to a like minded individual. Keep up the good work Tony and congratulations on your new shop. -James from california
Dude, You are a genius! I love this idea, Why not! I like seeing new things, and new things with old things, and this engine swap I'm pretty certain has never been done on video ever! Thanks!
I loved the fire demo. I love you putting the 170 slant in the miata more. I hope you can get a Hyper pack for it. That will make it sing.. it should be great in the miata. Get a 5 speed for it.
I didn't comment on the Miata "show bar" BECAUSE of what you said about needing additional bracing to make it functional. As for putting a slant in the Miata, fire up the welder! I LOVE fabrication videos so I'm hoping you'll take us along on that ride!
I've singed my eyebrows a few times, and eyelashes probably. No serious burns. I'll tell ya though, an enclosed boat bilge can get wild when unburned fuel fumes collect.
@@claudeladow2334 key word is fumes!!! fumes explode!!! I discovered this as a pile of cornstalks doused in petro exploded into a fireball from a lit match 15 feet from pile!!!windows from nearbye houses had windows rattle! go ahead and do your own test!!! Simply let the fumes travel along the ground for a minute or so.
@@redchris97 or the people who call pneumatic and battery impacts "power ratchets" and are serious about it. I call impacts "Assault Ratchets" but I'm kidding, even though most people don't get the joke until they hear me using the tool.
@@THRASHMETALFUNRIFFS what are you talking about? You are talking about the little one and the big one🤣, what are those numbers you talk about? ( I'm joking )
@@greasemonkey258 I actually had a friend borrow my impact and the way he asked for it was and I quote: the thing you use to take off the wheels 🤣, it goes brrrr....🤦🏻♂️ ( He's not mechanically inclined.... Obviously )
I think Uncle Tony is right. That Mazda may be the perfect car for the 170 slant. It's lightweight, and has tons of aftermarket support for the chassis. The man is brilliant.
I've never seen anyone so excited for the slant 6 other than you!!! now there was a guy who used to come by my buddies garage back in the 80s who had a 70s pinto with a 4 banger in it all beefed up with a freaking big ole Holley 4 bbl. sticking up out of the hood! it wasn't the slant 6, but he had the same unbridled enthusiasm for the small dog like you do when everyone else back then was all about the V8s!!! I can't wait to see how the Miata turns out with the slant 6!!! if anyone can do it, I know you're the crazy skilled madman to achieve it!!! love you guys and thanks again!!!!
@@bobroberts2371 you know you can't light gas on fire with a cigarette right? It's not hot enough. You can flick them in gas all day and all you're going to get is wet cigarettes
Hi Uncle Tony. I have been driving a buddy’s 1966 Mercedes Benz 250se four speed which is actually a “gray market “ car that imported was imported by a serviceman in 1968. I totally dig what you are saying about the perfect combination. The engine in this is very comparable with the engine you are installing in your Miata. The Mercedes engine has a bore of 3.23 to the 170’s 3.4, stroke 3.1 to the 170’s 3.125. The horsepower of the Mercedes is 170 SAE and 173 ft. Pounds to the low performance 170’s 101 horsepower and 155 ft pounds. You should easily exceed my 170 up. What impressed me about the Mercedes is how “Fluid “ and fun it is to drive with the four speed. It’s final drive gear ratio is on the low side, about 3,750 rpm at 65-70 mph but it’s very happy there. I’m sure that you will be very happy with your engine choice but this is what I’m curious about. What engine block are you planning on using aluminium or cast iron and the same question about the cylinder head and what is going to be your transmission choice? I’m a weird combination of British car and Muscle car guy. Who also street raced heavily in the 1980’s and 1990’s.
I originally bypassed the Miata project, thinking EFI, which I want nothing to do with. I'm a carburetor guy through and through. I came back and watched it when I heard you were putting a 170 slant six in it. I'm a fan of the older carbureted British sports cars like the Triumph TR6 and Spitfire, MGB, and several others. I've never considered a Miata because of the EFI. I want no part of EFI, or any other computer trash on a car. Glad you are doing it right.
My first new car was a 1970 Duster with a 225 slant six. I was working at a Chrysler Plymouth Imperial dealer at the time. I asked the senior mechanic how I should break it in, he said warm it up get it out on the freeway head south, when you get past the city limits see how fast it will go! If it blows up we have warranty to fix it, if not it will be a good one. It didn't blow up and outlived the Duster and went on to power another one. He also adjusted the transmission so it would shift at 6000 rpm at full throttle. With the 2.76 gears that was 70 mph in second gear. It didn't have enough power to hit 6000 rpm in high and toped out at 110. In the summer of 1971 I drove it from east Kansas to Grand Rapids Michigan (735 miles) in 10 hours including food and gas stops.
I used to work with an old timer who ran a dodge dealer back in the day. He said on all the brand new slants they would dump a bit of borax down the carb with the car running to "seat the rings" and help with oil consumption.
WOW! I couldn't laugh any harder! Best intro ever! Especially because of what previously caused you to do it. Thanks! I needed that! Funnier than Trudy doing a burn-out. You can't possible going to top this one! Or can you???
It made me nervous watching some of his vids and he was holding a cigarette in one hand and a bottle of gas in the other. Glad I don't have to worry and thanks for the laugh
Greetings from Staten Island. I had a 1974 MGB GT and installed those exact Miata seats in it. Looked perfect. MG's were a great platform to build off of.
The closest I got to having a problem, when looking for a vacuum leak, was using carb cleaner. I thought it would be less flammable, but some hit the header and flashed over. Took three good birthday candle blows to get it out. Will use gas next time, thanks UTG!
Only Uncle Tony would even think about putting a Slant-6 in a Miata. What a fascinating project, good luck! Might be worth keeping the power steering if you can, the geometry was designed around it.
You should use the 170 as a "3-D" basis for a 225 V-8 like the WV VR-6, where the pistons run in a Very-shallow Vee. You only need one DOHC head to cover the pots, and the length would be 30" or less, because of the Vee. If you're "3-D-ing" the engine you can use alumino-titanium fused-metal, making it strong AND light.
Hi uncle tony and uncle Kathy, I love your garage plenty of room just beautiful 👍🏠. It is nice to have room I work in a 2 car garage on one side but I’ve been getting by working on the montecarlo 👍🔧
Hi Tony I just wanted to say I enjoy your videos especially on the oldschool tricks and tips. I'm a 17 year old autistic car enthusiast and I'm building a 1970 GMC c15 and I'm hoping to be able to swap the original motor back in with flat top pistons a mild cam and some 305 heads this summer.
I absolutely love this project- and can't wait to view the series and completion! You just gained a subscriber that will not miss an episode. Great idea and you will make it a Blast!😃
I never had any doubt that you’d find a clever way to brace that head bar. BTW, I had a Valiant with the 170 back in the day. It wasn’t fast by any stretch but was pretty much bulletproof. It didn’t burn much gas either, and in those days at 29 cents a gallon, I could go a long way on $5.
Oh the Humanity Uncle Tony!!!....Keep on tweakin' UT....I love it! I AM a Mazda guy and think the B6ZE is an jewel of an engine....a veritable ounce of perfection, if you will.... But I will be watching this project with great interest. It will kind of be the Chrysler answer to the early Corvette that they never built. I do hope you are going with a manual. That engine setback will help keep the Miata's 50/50 weight distribution...Nice move!
I'm looking forward to seeing how this one turns out. I remember reading somewhere about a guy with a 170 slant that holds some kind of land speed record.
Interesting story on the 170 slant six. 170 cu in = 2.8L. That’s pretty big for a Miata. Pushing the engine back that far will really help with the weight balance, kind of a front mid-engine. 7,000 rpm straight 6 will sound amazing. I always loved the sound of my VR6 Jetta. Looking forward to the build. BTW, you need to brace that roll bar. 🙄
Woo that was a close call. I was standing on the bumper of an old Chevy truck spraying starter fluid in the carb, it back fired the flame went up hit the hood and in my face, my buddy laughed his ass off, it singed my eyebrows. It was pretty funny
Hey Tony, have a project idea for you. Recently dropped a VW Diesel into my 1990 Geo Tracker 4X4. I had the diesel completely torn down. It looked perfect. All the dimensions were well within spec. Bearings looked perfect. Rings were clean, springy and the right gap. Hand lapped the valves and put all brand new gaskets in it. Got everything set to factory specs. Runs like crap and no power. Compression tested it, 250/250/110/000. Supposed to be 300-350ish. I'm about crying here, LOL. After watching your MIata slant project it makes me wonder how great the 170 slant would power a lightweight offroader. I'm disabled on a really limited income. So this was kind of a hard hit.
Hahahaha! Oh Lord! You had me going! The gas did scare me at all. It was the proximity of the battery and the cigarette. I love when you talk history of the slant six. The Miata is going to be a fun project.
ROLL UP YOUR CIGARETTE!!! LOL Have a Happy Easter Uncle Tony & Uncle Kathy!!🐇💐🐇 First part had me ROFLMAO. Uncle Kathy saying "NO don't do it Tony...!" and I knew that you had a lighter in your hand, so I could see what was coming next.😉😉 Now that's gold UTG GOLD!!!🏆👍👍 I like how you got the engine out of the Miata. Work smarter not harder. I read a lot of them comments but I just hand to bite my tongue. For one I know nothing about them bars or what happened with them but I also know that you're NOT stupid, you're a pretty smart guy. Keep up the great work video and live streams! Stay safe up there in Tennessee UTG family! I'll spoke to ya later and I'm back quiet.😎
Congrats on the new space tony! Keep moving up dont let the haters get you. You keep trucking doing what makes you happy and leave them behind✔💯 love the channel✔
Hey Tony, As to your rollover bar, I am a mechanical engineer. I don't trust anything or anybody. I know how strong structural things need to be. For the large part, just by looking at them. If I were installing that bar, it would immediately be clear to me that it needs to be mounted like..... well like strong enough to resist the car flipping over. It would not even enter into my mind to use it as is, with 2 bolts in some 1/8" thick steel plates. The problem is people have expectations concurrent with the current state of entitlement society. People in the general population are not smart, and expect to buy a solution for everything. They do not put any burden on themselves to be responsible for something they are involved in. This is a custom aftermarket part. Not an engineered factory piece. In my mind, it is natural to expect the user/installer to verify that it is fit for the intended use. If it was engineered to work out of the box to be a safety item, maybe it would have some UL or Interek testing sticker associated with it. Or a Snell rating or NHRA certified or something. But lacking this, I would assume it is an ornamental dress up item only. Only unless I make sure it fulfills MY use requirements. I agree with you. People want it all perfect and they want it for free. Sounds like a politician's speech to me. Stay real. ---Doozer
There's a guy here on Long Island that swears by the 170; it's all he runs in his Valiants. Earlier this year I sold him a Carter 1bbl carb that came off a 170 Valiant way back in the day. He's restoring a 64 Valiant wagon.
I remember seeing an 1950 something mg sitting in a neighbors place with a slant six in it back in the mid 1970s it had been sitting for awhile it looked like. Think this is going to be a cool build.
I used to have a friend in Tampa about 1988 with a 63 4dr.Valiant Sleeper,it had a Homebrewed Stroker Slant6 in it,170 block and 198 crank and rods if I remember correctly.A Clifford Air Research Intake, Doug's Headers, 650 dbl.pumper,Aluminum case 4spd with an Antique Sheiffer Revlock Clutch.,8 3/4w5:38 gear.IT WAS A SCREAMER!! I mean this SOB would get to 7500 Faster than You Could Get Off It!! It would EAT MY 70 400 4spd GTO! and Mustangs IROCs and GTAs were just EASY $$.It took Dale about 3 yrs to Build and he did say the Engine was a Balancing Nightmare,(Venolia Custom Pistons I Believe), It even had a NOS Plate on it, but I Never saw him Use It.It was all Hulled Out and Super-Light around 2500lbs.Fun Times at Gandy Bridge back Then! Good Stuff UT.👍👍
It's interesting that the original smaller capacity versions of an engine are often the best balanced and sweetest running. The later higher capacity versions are an after thought that undoes some of the designers good work. 170cu in a Miata (MX5 in the UK), that's gonna be interesting. 👍
Uncle Tony you are by far the best mechanic I've seen and you don't need to listen to all the idiots I'm sure you know what you're talkin about don't listen to him and keep the videos rolling thanks man
Uncle Tony, From my experience people have a fear of something because they have never done it or never do anything. Keep up the good work. Don't let the armchair experts bother you.
My old mate had a Valiant slant 6 ute. It left the road one day and he nicknamed it 'Tussock Jumper', which he went on to name the boat he was building at the time.
I'd say the issue with the 225 over the 170 was the increased stroke without changing the length of the rods. I'd say it's putting too much force on the cylinder walls because of the return stroke or the compression stroke as it's less linear up and down. I only suspect that because an issue I had on my 4g64 was it burned an awful lot of oil. by 190k miles, the rings were toasted. the engine had a 100mm stroke and the same exact rod out of the 4g63 (150mm), which had a stroke of only 88mm. Sure, the deck height was also 12mm higher to compensate in the 4g64, but it didn't fix the poor stroke to rod ratio. The engine was torquey as hell. I tried teaching a friend how to drive manual with it and you couldn't stall it out no matter how bad you dump it, but when it came down to it, it just burned so much oil to the point it starved out one day and spun a bearing. I wish I still had it, just to examine it, but I considered building it with a shorter 94mm crank and 162mm rods with the custom pistons where the wrist pin was moved up 6mm and see if I could basically make a screamer of Sirius hybrid of sorts, building out the flaws of the engine and making higher end horsepower. Money and time was the limiting factor to that project, but I still got my '89 Conquest at least. It's got it's own flaws, but the stroke to rod ratio isn't one of them on the stock engine in that.
@@ericshinault3628 Cool.. Uncle Tony lives in Tennessee.. Just to fyi. And Tomorrow is the Sunday night Live stream.. you can mention it there also.. keep in touch.. hope it works out..
At first I was apprehensive about a slant in a Miata, cause I thought it would detract from all which makes a Miata beautiful. But after hearing your explanation, it all makes sense. I just hope, with all your recent emphasis on weight savings, that you can make a slant-powered Miata as light, or maybe even lighter, than the original 1.6L Miata Good luck, Uncle Tony! (Also I think a car like this deserves a 4-speed, not a torqueflite)
I think that Miata and the 170 will be great! Alot more torque than its used to, with an engine that will not die, with little maintenance. Just Fun! Seen a Miata a few years ago with a 5.0 Ford Windsor, kept it EFI, it was cool, but he was constantly messing with the electronics, to make it talk to the car. Sounded mean, yet reminded me of a Sunbeam Tiger. Add a simple engine, that takes little parts, and just Enjoy the damn car!
hi Uncle Tony, I gave you credit for knowing how to install a roll bar like that. If you are SCCA track racing in some kind of open class you would need a cage. I didn't connect your hunt for a 170 slant six to this project and I think you will have a nice sports car with that engine. I mostly an hoping you can make it street legal. They may try to make you meet the Miata emissions standards. Consider getting the title for the engine and registering it as a modified Dart...
Regarding the rollbar, don't listen to people who don't have a clue. Not only is it the best ins. You can get,and the best bang 4 the buck , it will also have a great effect on handling if installed correctly. I wish I had finally made it to that point with my 69 Camaro
Nobody commented on bracing your “mousetrap” style bar because companies make actual roll bars that have been crash tested/SCCA approved and they aren’t that expensive. I bet you could make yours work but it’s a backwards way to do it and a crazy place to save a few bucks IMO. Awesome project though.
I like the slant 6 plenty, but you have quite a challenge with fitting it in there Tony. Have you ever considered working on the V-6 Magnum engine? Being it's a cut-down Chrysler V-8, there may be plenty one could do to it based on the V-8, and it'd likely fit into the Miata easier.
Just saying the people that all had bad comments about that roll bar probably just bolt-on Parts guys. Don't know how to use a MIG welder TIG welder a grinder you know keep up the good work uncle. I myself have a 65 Nova 1968 El Camino an awesome 1999 Miata
Don't let the commits get to you. What you like to do it what i call reasonable risk. I do the same thing.Keep doing things your way that's what makes UTG UTG. HAVE A GREAT EASTER.
Tony, I had a Valiant in 1969/1970, automatic with the slant six ( surely the 170 ).... I was chased through Miami one night by a GTO and got away. Miami is not that way anymore..but the slant six still is.
When I was in auto class at the junior college one of the shop teachers burn of his eye brows when he revved up a 327 camaro and it back fired out the carb careful don't burn off your beard uncle Tony LOL.
May be comment you don't hate. My 85 d100 slant, put in a np535/nv2500 from a 2wd dakota. Top Loader!! Narrow than a A833 it's an overdrive Fits a big bearing slant 6 bell with little mod 23 spline, input is right length and diameter. Miata gears are probably deep so...
Just a tip for a recessed firewall. Instead of using fabricating something up you can just use the tub off a wheel Barrow, saves you hours of fab looks clean and isn't much more expensive than the sheet you will use.
OK, the intro sealed it: dude, you are by far my coolest uncle.
And the Oscar for best performance by a UA-camr goes to:
UNCLE TONY
I second that!
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@Cyclone Bravo So did you, it's Uncle Kathy.
I would just say the award goes to UTG. LOL
Lol. I worked with a mechanic in high school who demonstrated the difference between vaporized gasoline vs liquid. He dropped a lit cig in a small bucket of gasoline. The cig went out. We all lived to work another day.
My dad and his buddy (back in the ‘50’s) used to keep an open bucket of gasoline in the hay barn where they worked on their cars for putting their cigarettes out. He said they got a kick out of it every time. Don’t believe what you see on TV and in movies, folks.
HELL YES
Google Charles Nelson Pogue carburetor. I built one in 1985 and got 65 mi a gallon and the car ran way better had way more power
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Yup!! Back in the Navy days, had a big JP5 spill on the flight deck. I was standing in the middle of it when a buddy threw a lit Zippo at me. Of course, i didnt catch it, and....
Nothing happened.😳
My brain thought i was about to die a horrible death, and i might've had a brown alert, but I learned a lil somthin...
since the new show with lights 100x brighter than the previous place.....the videos are so much better to follow.
YES!
My favorite quote has always been, " Some people see things as they are and say why? I dream of things that never was and say Why Not??"
I often see things the way that they should be and say let's do this.
@@MikeBrown-ii3pt love it!!!
Never were
@@needmetal3221 yeah what you said...
@@UnityMotorSportsGarage you gonna have vizard the wizard on again?
Tony for many years, if I wanted to feel a bit better about myself, and realize I am not as stupid as I sometimes feel, I would go read youtube comments and suddenly I would realize I am not an idiot... thousands of them are, but not me.
Tony will be the proud owner of what I am sure will be the only slant six swapped miata in existence. I'm super interested to see how it drives after it's all done.
@@Kenjh71 that's a down right stupid comment, the 170 will be a few inches longer and weigh MAYBE 100lbs more, but the car will have lost its AC power steering and countless other items that would more than make up for any weight gain.
A BP (an engine that came in this car and in no way made it a pig) comes in at about 300lbs, a 225 weighs about 475lbs in its heaviest iterations, a 170 weighs signigantly less already and is likely to get some weight removed during the swap.
Answer me this.... if Tony said he was keeping the stock engine but adding a turbo would you protest that the 100lbs of turbo kit would turn it into a pig? Or have you not actually given this any real thought?
@@Kenjh71 Yep. Slant six is a couple hundred pounds more.
He'll have to go watch Donut Media videos to see how to get it handling right.😜
Then again, the alternative is-- the Miata goes to the junkyard...
@@Kenjh71 I dare to say you have read JACK SHIT in any magazine or webpage about a 170......
@@TwoLotus2 Donut Media soy boys are clinically retarded .... they have no experience as mechanics and do constant wiki quotes in baby voice .
You’ve never seen LS or 350sbc swapped Miatas... have you? Let alone all the people that do Toyota 1/2JZs lol. They handle that extra weight like a fucking champ.
Every mopar guy I've ever met loves the slant6. Tony is slowly making us all love it as well.
The only thing is. He says "they are cheap, easy to work on, and laying everywhere". But for most of us, we haven't seen an old slant 6 or a 318 sitting around in years...
Except in Craigslist listings for said 58-72 something another for $15000...
I have two. Not just laying around but two non the less. I would love a couple more.
Tony might be the star of this channel, but we all know that Kathy is the heart and soul
well said!!! of course there is no I in team, and they're definitely a great one!!! thanks for your kind words.
Cant wait to see the Slanted Miata run/drive,and the series showing how you swap it in there!
I love you, Uncle Tony! I'm 61 and have a stock 95 Miata that my dad willed to me when he died in 2004. He lived in Morro Bay CA. She's been here in Free State NH with me since then. 145K and running like a top. Lots of parts replaced but still no front end bushings or ball joints, or power train stuff. Even the CV booties and exhaust are original... never seen salt. :)
Months ago, when I suggested just exactly this swap, Uncle Tony said no.... I'm glad he came to his senses
There are a lot of people who don't fabricate or think outside of the box. They only see what is there and can only imagine it how it is now. It is easy to see that tony can think outside of the box and shape projects to their desired purpose. Tony, whenever I am feeling frustrated about people doubting me or saying that I am wrong I watch your channel channel and I feel better listening to a like minded individual. Keep up the good work Tony and congratulations on your new shop.
-James from california
You should put the Buick 215 aluminum motor in the Miata
Dude, You are a genius! I love this idea, Why not! I like seeing new things, and new things with old things, and this engine swap I'm pretty certain has never been done on video ever! Thanks!
I loved the fire demo. I love you putting the 170 slant in the miata more. I hope you can get a Hyper pack for it. That will make it sing.. it should be great in the miata. Get a 5 speed for it.
I didn't comment on the Miata "show bar" BECAUSE of what you said about needing additional bracing to make it functional.
As for putting a slant in the Miata, fire up the welder! I LOVE fabrication videos so I'm hoping you'll take us along on that ride!
I've singed my eyebrows a few times, and eyelashes probably. No serious burns. I'll tell ya though, an enclosed boat bilge can get wild when unburned fuel fumes collect.
Only time my eyebrows were compromised was from starting a fire with gasoline instead of lighter fluid
@@claudeladow2334 key word is fumes!!! fumes explode!!! I discovered this as a pile of cornstalks doused in petro exploded into a fireball from a lit match 15 feet from pile!!!windows from nearbye houses had windows rattle! go ahead and do your own test!!! Simply let the fumes travel along the ground for a minute or so.
This cracks me up 😂 god damn keyboard mechanics !
🤣 those are the same people that don't know between a 3/8ths rachet and a 1/2 one, they call it the middle one or the big one....
@@redchris97 You forgot it's 1/4 " or 3/8 or 1/2"
@@redchris97 or the people who call pneumatic and battery impacts "power ratchets" and are serious about it.
I call impacts "Assault Ratchets" but I'm kidding, even though most people don't get the joke until they hear me using the tool.
@@THRASHMETALFUNRIFFS what are you talking about? You are talking about the little one and the big one🤣, what are those numbers you talk about? ( I'm joking )
@@greasemonkey258 I actually had a friend borrow my impact and the way he asked for it was and I quote: the thing you use to take off the wheels 🤣, it goes brrrr....🤦🏻♂️ ( He's not mechanically inclined.... Obviously )
Still loving that you have decent garage space now. Room for even more projects!
I think Uncle Tony is right. That Mazda may be the perfect car for the 170 slant. It's lightweight, and has tons of aftermarket support for the chassis. The man is brilliant.
Cool idea, UT. If you don't get the performance you are looking for, drop a 340 in there! And the videos have been better quality in the new location!
Cobra part two.
They already make kits for v8 miatas, if you done mind the $$$$, the engineering has been done for you.
WOW! Fire and Flames! I was so scared of the huge explosion, I ran out of my own house! HA!
That 170 needs 3 side draft Webbers feeding it just for the cool factor.
Or 6 bike carbs with trumpets, now that would be sweet
HOW ABOUT 700 CFM OF EDELBROCK MATED TO A TURBO?
What a gigantic waste of fucking money! That motor doesn't breathe well enough to take advantage of those Weber's
@@telesniper2 What didn't you get when I said just for the cool factor?
I've never seen anyone so excited for the slant 6 other than you!!! now there was a guy who used to come by my buddies garage back in the 80s who had a 70s pinto with a 4 banger in it all beefed up with a freaking big ole Holley 4 bbl. sticking up out of the hood! it wasn't the slant 6, but he had the same unbridled enthusiasm for the small dog like you do when everyone else back then was all about the V8s!!! I can't wait to see how the Miata turns out with the slant 6!!! if anyone can do it, I know you're the crazy skilled madman to achieve it!!! love you guys and thanks again!!!!
I tuned up many of these for friends and had no idea about the 170 being such an ideal engine. Great historical insight.
People ask, "Why put a slant 6 in a Miata?"
No response is needed when doing something cool, that's why. 🔥🏁🤘
I have a 95 totally stock Miata and I LOVE THIS!
Uncle Tony playing with gasoline while smoking just to get a rise out of people! Makes me want to take up smoking! :)
You gonna smoke them bubble gum cigs 🤣😁😂
Dale Gribble made smoking cool to me!
I've seen the results of one garage gasoline explosion and was told about one by a person that was in one. The results are not pretty.
I was more concerned about the battery. Had a buddy of mine have a battery blow up in his face.
@@bobroberts2371 you know you can't light gas on fire with a cigarette right? It's not hot enough. You can flick them in gas all day and all you're going to get is wet cigarettes
Hi Uncle Tony. I have been driving a buddy’s 1966 Mercedes Benz 250se four speed which is actually a “gray market “ car that imported was imported by a serviceman in 1968. I totally dig what you are saying about the perfect combination. The engine in this is very comparable with the engine you are installing in your Miata. The Mercedes engine has a bore of 3.23 to the 170’s 3.4, stroke 3.1 to the 170’s 3.125. The horsepower of the Mercedes is 170 SAE and 173 ft. Pounds to the low performance 170’s 101 horsepower and 155 ft pounds. You should easily exceed my 170 up. What impressed me about the Mercedes is how “Fluid “ and fun it is to drive with the four speed. It’s final drive gear ratio is on the low side, about 3,750 rpm at 65-70 mph but it’s very happy there. I’m sure that you will be very happy with your engine choice but this is what I’m curious about. What engine block are you planning on using aluminium or cast iron and the same question about the cylinder head and what is going to be your transmission choice? I’m a weird combination of British car and Muscle car guy. Who also street raced heavily in the 1980’s and 1990’s.
This project is going to be amazing I can't wait to see this thing come together!
This is like the perfect storm for me since I've always loved Mopars and Miatas as well. I can't wait to see how this comes out.
I originally bypassed the Miata project, thinking EFI, which I want nothing to do with. I'm a carburetor guy through and through. I came back and watched it when I heard you were putting a 170 slant six in it. I'm a fan of the older carbureted British sports cars like the Triumph TR6 and Spitfire, MGB, and several others. I've never considered a Miata because of the EFI. I want no part of EFI, or any other computer trash on a car. Glad you are doing it right.
My first new car was a 1970 Duster with a 225 slant six. I was working at a Chrysler Plymouth Imperial dealer at the time. I asked the senior mechanic how I should break it in, he said warm it up get it out on the freeway head south, when you get past the city limits see how fast it will go! If it blows up we have warranty to fix it, if not it will be a good one. It didn't blow up and outlived the Duster and went on to power another one. He also adjusted the transmission so it would shift at 6000 rpm at full throttle. With the 2.76 gears that was 70 mph in second gear. It didn't have enough power to hit 6000 rpm in high and toped out at 110. In the summer of 1971 I drove it from east Kansas to Grand Rapids Michigan (735 miles) in 10 hours including food and gas stops.
I used to work with an old timer who ran a dodge dealer back in the day. He said on all the brand new slants they would dump a bit of borax down the carb with the car running to "seat the rings" and help with oil consumption.
WOW! I couldn't laugh any harder! Best intro ever! Especially because of what previously caused you to do it. Thanks! I needed that! Funnier than Trudy doing a burn-out. You can't possible going to top this one! Or can you???
I'm really liking the slanted Miata.
Scooting the engine back will improve the handling.
It's gonna be a hoot on twisty back roads. 😎
It made me nervous watching some of his vids and he was holding a cigarette in one hand and a bottle of gas in the other.
Glad I don't have to worry and thanks for the laugh
Cigarettes actually can’t light gas. The thing about smoking that causes gas to ignite is actually the lighter/match.
I had a 64 Dart 170 auto years ago. Drove it 3 or 4 years and sold it to a lady who drove it for years. Couldn't kill it.
I can't wait to see this go together
Greetings from Staten Island. I had a 1974 MGB GT and installed those exact Miata seats in it. Looked perfect. MG's were a great platform to build off of.
I love it! I’m super glad you’re using a 170 also. Make it a 7000 RPM screamer!
I loved the slant in my duster, but always wished to put a close ratio 5 or 6 speed behind it. Wind that thing up into the powerband and let 'er fly.
The closest I got to having a problem, when looking for a vacuum leak, was using carb cleaner. I thought it would be less flammable, but some hit the header and flashed over. Took three good birthday candle blows to get it out.
Will use gas next time, thanks UTG!
Some who gets it! Just make sure to use a squirt bottle. LOL
Only Uncle Tony would even think about putting a Slant-6 in a Miata. What a fascinating project, good luck! Might be worth keeping the power steering if you can, the geometry was designed around it.
You’re a sick man Tony. I can’t wait to see this build.
Heres to another unfinished project 👍🍻
A friend of my son in Florida put a Jaguar V-12 in a Miata. Why......well, why not? I also read that AllPar article. Very interesting.
I have the Allpar Slant 6 article bookmarked on my school computer. I read it whenever I'm bored in class. I NEED ONE OF THESE ENGINES IN MY LIFE.
You're always good with describing your ideas. It really does make sense. Hope you have a happy Easter uncle Tony!
You're the only other person that I've seen so far that wished them a Happy Easter.
I hope you and your family Have a Happy Easter!🐇💐🐇
I love that intro Uncle Tony and Uncle Kathy. I laughed more than i should of.
I laughed so hard that I peed a little. LOL
This is the one of the best miata swap ideas yet, can't wait to see how it all works out
You should use the 170 as a "3-D" basis for a 225 V-8 like the WV VR-6, where the pistons run in a Very-shallow Vee. You only need one DOHC head to cover the pots, and the length would be 30" or less, because of the Vee. If you're "3-D-ing" the engine you can use alumino-titanium fused-metal, making it strong AND light.
I’ve been a Mopar man all my life and know a whole bunch about them but man you teach me stuff all the time, can’t wait to meet you at Jake’s 👍👍👍👍👍
Hi uncle tony and uncle Kathy, I love your garage plenty of room just beautiful 👍🏠. It is nice to have room I work in a 2 car garage on one side but I’ve been getting by working on the montecarlo 👍🔧
Try no garage.
Hi Tony I just wanted to say I enjoy your videos especially on the oldschool tricks and tips. I'm a 17 year old autistic car enthusiast and I'm building a 1970 GMC c15 and I'm hoping to be able to swap the original motor back in with flat top pistons a mild cam and some 305 heads this summer.
I absolutely love this project- and can't wait to view the series and completion! You just gained a subscriber that will not miss an episode. Great idea and you will make it a Blast!😃
I never had any doubt that you’d find a clever way to brace that head bar. BTW, I had a Valiant with the 170 back in the day. It wasn’t fast by any stretch but was pretty much bulletproof. It didn’t burn much gas either, and in those days at 29 cents a gallon, I could go a long way on $5.
Oh the Humanity Uncle Tony!!!....Keep on tweakin' UT....I love it!
I AM a Mazda guy and think the B6ZE is an jewel of an engine....a veritable ounce of perfection, if you will.... But I will be watching this project with great interest. It will kind of be the Chrysler answer to the early Corvette that they never built. I do hope you are going with a manual. That engine setback will help keep the Miata's 50/50 weight distribution...Nice move!
I'm looking forward to seeing how this one turns out. I remember reading somewhere about a guy with a 170 slant that holds some kind of land speed record.
Interesting story on the 170 slant six. 170 cu in = 2.8L. That’s pretty big for a Miata. Pushing the engine back that far will really help with the weight balance, kind of a front mid-engine. 7,000 rpm straight 6 will sound amazing. I always loved the sound of my VR6 Jetta. Looking forward to the build. BTW, you need to brace that roll bar. 🙄
"Miatta"... When the rainbow sticker just dosen't say it loud enough. 😂😂🌈😂😂
You say that as if he might be entering it into the Broke Back Mountain hill climb...
@@kramnull8962 Nah, not Uncle Tony though... He's actually giving one some balls.
im looking forward to seeing this car coming together. thanks Tony
Woo that was a close call. I was standing on the bumper of an old Chevy truck spraying starter fluid in the carb, it back fired the flame went up hit the hood and in my face, my buddy laughed his ass off, it singed my eyebrows. It was pretty funny
Hey Tony, have a project idea for you. Recently dropped a VW Diesel into my 1990 Geo Tracker 4X4. I had the diesel completely torn down. It looked perfect. All the dimensions were well within spec. Bearings looked perfect. Rings were clean, springy and the right gap. Hand lapped the valves and put all brand new gaskets in it. Got everything set to factory specs. Runs like crap and no power. Compression tested it, 250/250/110/000. Supposed to be 300-350ish. I'm about crying here, LOL. After watching your MIata slant project it makes me wonder how great the 170 slant would power a lightweight offroader. I'm disabled on a really limited income. So this was kind of a hard hit.
I nominate Tony for an Oscar.
Im so happy we're finally getting some miata content thank u Uncles
UT thinking outside the box. Easiest engine pull ever. Nearly effortless.
Hahahaha! Oh Lord! You had me going! The gas did scare me at all. It was the proximity of the battery and the cigarette.
I love when you talk history of the slant six. The Miata is going to be a fun project.
ROLL UP YOUR CIGARETTE!!! LOL Have a Happy Easter Uncle Tony & Uncle Kathy!!🐇💐🐇
First part had me ROFLMAO. Uncle Kathy saying "NO don't do it Tony...!" and I knew that you had a lighter in your hand, so I could see what was coming next.😉😉 Now that's gold UTG GOLD!!!🏆👍👍
I like how you got the engine out of the Miata. Work smarter not harder.
I read a lot of them comments but I just hand to bite my tongue. For one I know nothing about them bars or what happened with them but I also know that you're NOT stupid, you're a pretty smart guy.
Keep up the great work video and live streams!
Stay safe up there in Tennessee UTG family!
I'll spoke to ya later and I'm back quiet.😎
Congrats on the new space tony! Keep moving up dont let the haters get you. You keep trucking doing what makes you happy and leave them behind✔💯 love the channel✔
Hey Tony, As to your rollover bar, I am a mechanical engineer. I don't trust anything or anybody. I know how strong structural things need to be. For the large part, just by looking at them. If I were installing that bar, it would immediately be clear to me that it needs to be mounted like..... well like strong enough to resist the car flipping over. It would not even enter into my mind to use it as is, with 2 bolts in some 1/8" thick steel plates. The problem is people have expectations concurrent with the current state of entitlement society. People in the general population are not smart, and expect to buy a solution for everything. They do not put any burden on themselves to be responsible for something they are involved in. This is a custom aftermarket part. Not an engineered factory piece. In my mind, it is natural to expect the user/installer to verify that it is fit for the intended use. If it was engineered to work out of the box to be a safety item, maybe it would have some UL or Interek testing sticker associated with it. Or a Snell rating or NHRA certified or something. But lacking this, I would assume it is an ornamental dress up item only. Only unless I make sure it fulfills MY use requirements. I agree with you. People want it all perfect and they want it for free. Sounds like a politician's speech to me. Stay real. ---Doozer
Wooohoooo!! A video with the 170 slant!!!! That’s the same motor I’m rebuilding for my Valiant!!! Thank you for this video!!
There's a guy here on Long Island that swears by the 170; it's all he runs in his Valiants. Earlier this year I sold him a Carter 1bbl carb that came off a 170 Valiant way back in the day. He's restoring a 64 Valiant wagon.
I remember seeing an 1950 something mg sitting in a neighbors place with a slant six in it back in the mid 1970s it had been sitting for awhile it looked like. Think this is going to be a cool build.
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@@ThePants2012 Hey Pants
I used to have a friend in Tampa about 1988 with a 63 4dr.Valiant Sleeper,it had a Homebrewed Stroker Slant6 in it,170 block and 198 crank and rods if I remember correctly.A Clifford Air Research Intake, Doug's Headers, 650 dbl.pumper,Aluminum case 4spd with an Antique Sheiffer Revlock Clutch.,8 3/4w5:38 gear.IT WAS A SCREAMER!! I mean this SOB would get to 7500 Faster than You Could Get Off It!! It would EAT MY 70 400 4spd GTO! and Mustangs IROCs and GTAs were just EASY $$.It took Dale about 3 yrs to Build and he did say the Engine was a Balancing Nightmare,(Venolia Custom Pistons I Believe), It even had a NOS Plate on it, but I Never saw him Use It.It was all Hulled Out and Super-Light around 2500lbs.Fun Times at Gandy Bridge back Then! Good Stuff UT.👍👍
Sounds like an beast! 4 door cars do make the best sleepers.😎
@@bigbear5510 It was, and it was Homely as Sin Too!
It's interesting that the original smaller capacity versions of an engine are often the best balanced and sweetest running. The later higher capacity versions are an after thought that undoes some of the designers good work. 170cu in a Miata (MX5 in the UK), that's gonna be interesting. 👍
Uncle Tony you are by far the best mechanic I've seen and you don't need to listen to all the idiots I'm sure you know what you're talkin about don't listen to him and keep the videos rolling thanks man
Uncle Tony,
From my experience people have a fear of something because they have never done it or never do anything. Keep up the good work. Don't let the armchair experts bother you.
Anyone with grease on their jeans would know without doubt you would add bracing for the roll bar.
Guys in flip flops would JB weld it in...
But.... Plan Z!! Isn’t finished yet?????
I think it's ready to make a few passes down the track.
My old mate had a Valiant slant 6 ute. It left the road one day and he nicknamed it 'Tussock Jumper', which he went on to name the boat he was building at the time.
Tony how are you going to brace up that roll bar?
I'd say the issue with the 225 over the 170 was the increased stroke without changing the length of the rods. I'd say it's putting too much force on the cylinder walls because of the return stroke or the compression stroke as it's less linear up and down. I only suspect that because an issue I had on my 4g64 was it burned an awful lot of oil. by 190k miles, the rings were toasted. the engine had a 100mm stroke and the same exact rod out of the 4g63 (150mm), which had a stroke of only 88mm. Sure, the deck height was also 12mm higher to compensate in the 4g64, but it didn't fix the poor stroke to rod ratio. The engine was torquey as hell. I tried teaching a friend how to drive manual with it and you couldn't stall it out no matter how bad you dump it, but when it came down to it, it just burned so much oil to the point it starved out one day and spun a bearing. I wish I still had it, just to examine it, but I considered building it with a shorter 94mm crank and 162mm rods with the custom pistons where the wrist pin was moved up 6mm and see if I could basically make a screamer of Sirius hybrid of sorts, building out the flaws of the engine and making higher end horsepower. Money and time was the limiting factor to that project, but I still got my '89 Conquest at least. It's got it's own flaws, but the stroke to rod ratio isn't one of them on the stock engine in that.
Slant6 Monk...
In Search of 170ci
Continues..
Gotta 170 to get rid of
@@ericshinault3628 Cool.. Uncle Tony lives in Tennessee.. Just to fyi.
And Tomorrow is the Sunday night Live stream.. you can mention it there also.. keep in touch.. hope it works out..
At first I was apprehensive about a slant in a Miata, cause I thought it would detract from all which makes a Miata beautiful. But after hearing your explanation, it all makes sense. I just hope, with all your recent emphasis on weight savings, that you can make a slant-powered Miata as light, or maybe even lighter, than the original 1.6L Miata
Good luck, Uncle Tony!
(Also I think a car like this deserves a 4-speed, not a torqueflite)
I think that Miata and the 170 will be great! Alot more torque than its used to, with an engine that will not die, with little maintenance. Just Fun! Seen a Miata a few years ago with a 5.0 Ford Windsor, kept it EFI, it was cool, but he was constantly messing with the electronics, to make it talk to the car. Sounded mean, yet reminded me of a Sunbeam Tiger. Add a simple engine, that takes little parts, and just Enjoy the damn car!
Looking forward to your adventure with this installation !! :-)
hi Uncle Tony, I gave you credit for knowing how to install a roll bar like that.
If you are SCCA track racing in some kind of open class you would need a cage.
I didn't connect your hunt for a 170 slant six to this project and
I think you will have a nice sports car with that engine.
I mostly an hoping you can make it street legal.
They may try to make you meet the Miata emissions standards.
Consider getting the title for the engine and registering it as a modified Dart...
Regarding the rollbar, don't listen to people who don't have a clue. Not only is it the best ins. You can get,and the best bang 4 the buck , it will also have a great effect on handling if installed correctly. I wish I had finally made it to that point with my 69 Camaro
Nobody commented on bracing your “mousetrap” style bar because companies make actual roll bars that have been crash tested/SCCA approved and they aren’t that expensive. I bet you could make yours work but it’s a backwards way to do it and a crazy place to save a few bucks IMO. Awesome project though.
Uncle Tony my guy, dont let those comments keep you up at night. Roll them off the back brother.
So how are you going to brace up that bar ? Got me thinking tho . Loved the intro 🤣
I like the slant 6 plenty, but you have quite a challenge with fitting it in there Tony.
Have you ever considered working on the V-6 Magnum engine? Being it's a cut-down Chrysler V-8, there may be plenty one could do to it based on the V-8, and it'd likely fit into the Miata easier.
Just saying the people that all had bad comments about that roll bar probably just bolt-on Parts guys. Don't know how to use a MIG welder TIG welder a grinder you know keep up the good work uncle. I myself have a 65 Nova 1968 El Camino an awesome 1999 Miata
Don't let the commits get to you. What you like to do it what i call reasonable risk. I do the same thing.Keep doing things your way that's what makes UTG UTG. HAVE A GREAT EASTER.
The Slant Six Miata is a really interesting project. I want to see how this car/ engine combination works out.
Tony, I had a Valiant in 1969/1970, automatic with the slant six ( surely the 170 )....
I was chased through Miami one night by a GTO and got away. Miami is not that
way anymore..but the slant six still is.
When I was in auto class at the junior college one of the shop teachers burn of his eye brows when he revved up a 327 camaro and it back fired out the carb careful don't burn off your beard uncle Tony LOL.
Uncle Tony doesn't "burn his beard."
Uncle Tony uses Fire when he wants a trim; it is a trick he taught Chuck Norris.
May be comment you don't hate.
My 85 d100 slant, put in a np535/nv2500 from a 2wd dakota.
Top Loader!!
Narrow than a A833
it's an overdrive
Fits a big bearing slant 6 bell with little mod
23 spline, input is right length and diameter.
Miata gears are probably deep so...
Just a tip for a recessed firewall.
Instead of using fabricating something up you can just use the tub off a wheel Barrow, saves you hours of fab looks clean and isn't much more expensive than the sheet you will use.