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Expose the name of the dealer/vendor so they can be blacklisted
I won’t name the vendor until I feel I have enough “proof” to back my story. I’m not sure I do at this point. There are a lot of “what if’s”
In any case- I’m doing research and I’ll keep y’all updated 🤝
@@ZettysreptilesI would at least file a complaint with the organizers of the expo. Just in case they can be aware or there may be other previous complaints.
@@r1verman100%!
@@Zettysreptilesthat’s really mature dude. Definitely subscribed now man, you are what we need more of in our hobby💯
Small claims court. Especially when the animal is sick. Get vet to sign that the animal is suffering from damage
Dropping the name of the dealer is not the 1st step. This should have been reported to the expo organizer. From there the expo organizer will conduct an investigation.
I'm sorry you got scammed, but it is so heartwarming to hear that you're going to give this poor girl a healthy forever home. You sir, are a quality soul. May the universe pay you back 100 fold.
If someone did a drinking game and took a shot every time you said "Cuban False Chameleon", they would be dead.
Your right hahaha we all know what he was talking about jeeeezzz
Thanks for sharing your experience. Totally sucks but I like your outlook on giving that poor girl a better home.
Wow. Just awful. Some people are in it just for the money and not for the care of animals. I’m glad she ended up with you and you were able to recognize her issues and provide a better quality of life. Thank you for being awesome!
Hubby and I went to an expo back in the fall. We met some really nice vendors who were really passionate about their animals, but there were some keeping animals in heart breaking conditions. Baby bearded dragons just attacked on top of each other 3 or 4 high... some of them missing legs. (He told us he'd sell us one of those half price) 💔 on one hand you want to get the animals out of the situation but on the other paying him anything just encourages him to mistreat more animals.
It sucks being scammed but like you said, you're able to give it a home it deserves
You have enough proof to name the disgusting vendor that’s a loser for the reptile hobby. You were the honest person they took advantage of. You’re not in the wrong for warning others of their name. Hang in there and don’t feel ashamed.
Appreciate it! As a breeder myself, it’s a hard pill to swallow knowing that it could have been avoided, but just need to remember that I could at least get her where she needs to go. I will be seeing what they have to say about the situation. I’ll do a follow up once done.
Agree, definitely. Anyone willing to fork over the money for a booth and represent themselves in person would have to be a fool to try and pull a con like this. What a dumbass. They should definitely be called out. Their reputation needs to be established as part of the community. Don't allow them to fully escape accountability
It's an unfortunate situation, but to use it as a teaching opportunity is great.
1 thing that sounds strange but helps me in the long run, take a picture of the animal you buy with their identification/logo/sign. I do this not for scams but for future purchases. I bought a baby Leopard Gecko that turned out spectacular and I wanted to buy more from this breeder, but for the life of me I can not remember who they were.
Later a bough a spiderling and asked to take a picture with their logo. They were very happy about it and when the Tarantula turned out fantastic I gave their contact info to friends who wanted a species like mine. They are a small tarantula breeder of a few select rare species. I would never have remembered them since so many spider breeders names are similar,
Sorry for the long comment but I think it can help others.
Also if they do not want you to take a picture of the animal with their logo, you know that is a big red flag.
Good advise! If they have any issues with photographing a purchase, I’d agree it’s a red flag.
And it’s kind of crazy how many people don’t think to even look at who they are buying from, and later don’t know who to contact.
Sometimes new keepers just are not as aware and don’t think they will get taken advantage of.
But alas, I’d consider myself a very experienced keeper, and it still happened to me. More or less for thinking I did enough, and didn’t in the long run.
Great idea!
That's a solid piece of advice, take a close up photo of the animal outside of its container. I would assume they would at least give you a card or something with their logo/business name with your purchase, right? If not then definitely get a pic.
@@LukeMcGuireoides It's only because I bought a few Leopard Geckos for a breeding project. I took pictures of the cups they came in because they were each labeled with their morphs. The problem my best grew out to become a spectacular animal but I still don't now which breeder he came from. Pictures are easy and free and save so much confusion in the future.
I was also scammed recently and I take responsibility for being impulsive. I was at the reptile show in southern CA and looking at tortoises. I found a vendor (said he was the breeder) with several small Hermann tortoises. He swore, after I asked him repeatedly, that they were the Western subspecies. This was important to me for many reasons. I purchased three and when I got home I did more research on how to tell the Eastern from the Western and realized he sold me Eastern Hermann’s. My fault for trusting him. I should have done my homework before making the purchase but I was too trusting.
The tough part is, this “breeder” may not of even known what they were which is the biggest red flag. Or maybe they did and were just looking to get your money.
I see this often with blue tongue skinks being labeled as northerns that are clearly WC Indo’s. I can understand a someone new to the reptile hobby not immediately knowing the difference (as you were in this circumstance with the tortoise), but for them not to know?? It’s kind of gross. They are living breathing reptiles and they don’t even know what they are selling.
In any case- sorry this happened to you, and I respect that you are able to point out your own mistakes in the situation as well.
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Horrendous behaviour. Just glad she has a good home now.
That poor chameleon😢. Those people are not only horrible for scamming you but my heart breaks for that chomeleon being treated so horribly. I really hope those people have been reported!
Well done video. Great story with some solid advice to help keep us all on our toes. That seller is really doing the hobby a disservice, I hope you reported it to the event and if it happened to me, I would be name and shaming them! Good for you with making something positive out of it all too
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it!
Its sad when I was the one who had to “scam” a breeder at an expo. LOL Breeder had a healthy but blind in one eye lizard. When I mentioned it to him, he seemed upset.
I never intended to upset him but I opened my big mouth. Breeder guy then refused to sell the animal to us, stating he doesn’t sell unhealthy animals.
Likely it was an injury sustained quite by accident and not an intentional mistake on the breeders part.
It took my hubby a long time to convince breeder to sell this lizard to us. We even downplayed the truth, saying oh he probably is fine knowing full well this lizard was blind.
He just wanted to do the right thing, we just wanted the lizard.
We never reported the breeder but poor guy we could see felt awful. But in a way we most definitely scammed him!
We took our new guy right to the vet to see if anything could be done and he is blind. But we love him and thats what matters. ❤
Far as cost to get him, we insisted we wanted to pay exact price he was selling for him, but he refused. Finally we agreed to 20.00 off. But, we still paid hundreds for him. We never look to get lizards free or lower cost, we pay what a healthy animal costs because a difference does not make a lizard less valuable to me.
Sorry this happened man, not cool! Really got to watch out nowadays, I liked the tips on the end about taking a second and walking around doing some research on the company first too.
Appreciate it! Never to careful. I do believe there are good breeders/dealers out there that are newer or don’t have a big social presence.. but reputation is everything, and it will at least get you a good idea of how they operate prior to buying.
@@Zettysreptiles I had another idea. Record the transactions on your phone, and tell the sellers it's because you want to give them a big shout-out on your UA-cam channel.
Good idea honestly, a legitimate dealer will be happy to let you record and if they aren't I wouldn't be buying from them, they shouldn't have anything to hide. @@YochevedDesigns
Constructive criticism: please balance volume level of your voice and the outro it was so jumpscaringly loud when I turned it up to hear you. Good content and interesting story
Lol- criticism received. Admittedly I forgot to set the volume of the video (layer 1) vs the overlayed outro 😅
A large problem at shows and expos is that customers are drawn to friendly, affable dealers who talk a great story, and naturally trust said dealer. If an expert like you can be scammed, what chance does a newbie have? I learned my lesson with an infant sulcata tortoise. R.I.P., Aristotle. 😢
Poor Aristotle 😔. Fortunately there are a lot of ethical breeders and their references and reviews will speak to their nature. That said, you are 100% correct. A person who appears trustworthy on the surface due to their kind and friendly nature could in fact have a lot of skeletons piled up in their closet that you can’t see at an expo!
You definitely got scammed, and you should do something about it. Did you try contacting the breeder ??
I’ve contacted the show host, but generally they won’t do much because they don’t like to get in the middle. I’ve reported other vendors for having sick animals and they literally told me they can’t do anything about it other than keep an eye out next time.
Even sending pics of emaciated reptiles isn’t enough to remove a vendor.
In any case- I’ll keep working to contact the breeder to get their side of the story.
@Zettysreptiles morph market!!! If you can figure out a way to get them banned on there, they will most likely be banned from the shows
I hate that there are people out there that do this type of thing, and thank you for sharing! I would have never thought about watching out for that.
You just told 20,000+ viewers how not to get scammed by a disreputable show dealer…thank you!🦎
Thank you for your story. I am a littlewiser for it. I am a proud servant to a Northern Bluie, a fire Skink, 2Emerald skink, and 1 baby Corn snake. All of them acquired over the past year from a vendor that I met at a local reptileexpo.
All amazing pets!! It’s always great to meet someone you can go back to and know you will get quality and healthy reptiles!
oh the poor thing :( in my area keeping an animal like this, in a way it affects its health negatively (even to the point where it has permanent limb damage) is considered animal cruelty and it is illegal. is there any way you can take legal action to prevent other animals suffering in the future at the hands of this seller? I'm so sorry this happened. i hope your cfc can regain some quality of life with you
Not much you can do legally. I mean, there’s the ability to report for animal cruelty and hope their facility gets checked out.
Everything else would just be my word against theirs.
I’m contacting the host and breeder on my end though. I’m very interested in what their story will be.
1. Your word is considered evidence.
2 picture documentation of the animal at your home
3 picture documentation of the pic and video you sent your pal,by you and them, Ideal original and as screenshot. Archive that.
4 get a vet to look at it and attest the sex & damage
That's all evidence.
In civil court and small claims court, it goes for the proponderance of evidence.
This video can be another one.
That all against his word that he did what, sold you a sick animal? Did a mistake?
Important, don't mix up the high expectations in CRIMINAL court as universal - and even in criminal court, verbal deposition and witness testimony ARE EVIDENCE.
Seriously. Don't let this guy get away with it. Small claims court definitely, get in the costs for the vet that will be necessary in case the animal is badly hurt and it's literally fraud what happened to you and the animal you have+ the documentation ARE your proof.
Know your rights mate.
Thank you for sharing your experience word of mouth is still so important!
That's messed up. Hate how the industry invites these types of people. For the victims of scams and for the poor animals. No animal should suffer in the hands of a person like that. Poor animals
Sounds pretty clear, no need to further investigate. Without a doubt you got scammed.
You are such a good person to look at the positive that you will gove her a good rest of her life!
I'm so glad she is with you now🙏🏽❤️
I feel like “it’s captive bred” is the most common lie told at expos, with the runner up being wild ass low-balls of the age of those same animals.
I’m so glad that, despite the deplorable business practices of the vendor, you’re giving that poor girl the home she deserves.
Oh no doubt! Even pet stores do that. That’s the biggest lie in the hobby (aside from the price of sticks lol).
I breed ball Pythons personally but hearing stories like this where there are shady people at these shows doing this kind of thing sickens me to no end. This does however, provide a very valuable lesson to everyone to make sure that you are inspecting what you get while still at the table before you leave and not to assume anything especially if the vendor is hiding the "packaging" process. This should be something that should be done right in front of the customer. Watching them pack it up and then hand it to you is when I hand over the $$ personally. I have had a few vendors try the "switch" on me and have been able to just walk away the moment they try it with payment still in hand. And like others are saying you should speak out against the vendor as people need to be made aware of these situations. It sounds like they should not involved in the pet trade.
Thanks for sharing, It's never easy to share some of these types of things. I am however happy that the little girl is in a loving home and will get the care that she needs and deserves! This speaks volumes to your character!
-Jack
It always sucks to be scammed. I think it’s great that you’re using the opportunity to warn others, though. I wouldn’t have known to watch out for this. It wouldn’t even cross my mind that someone would do something like this. People suck.
Thank you for giving the reptile a better life.
Wow, this is something I wouldn't have even considered happening. Heading to an expo in 2 weeks, no intentions of buying anything but great info nonetheless.
Enjoy!! 95% of the vendors will be great I’m sure, and it’s a lot of fun.
@Zettysreptiles they just started bringing this show to my area, the first one was very very small. Hopefully this one will have a bigger turnout. Either way, I'll go and enjoy it!
I got scammed buying a leucistic Common Snapping turtle for $2,000 from the online reptile company “Boa Bay”…. I sent the $ via Zelle, & they never sent the turtle. 💀
Don’t buy from them. I never got my $2k back, & the bank wouldn’t cover it, either.
Sorry this happened to you- this could happen to ANY of us. But it is a really horrible feeling to be taken advantage of… especially by other folks in our reptile community.
Thank you for making this video- I would NEVER expect this at a reptile expo!!
Thanks for sharing your experience. So sorry that happened to you!!
Wow this is sad 😢 thank you for sharing your experience
What a bummer. Thank you for sharing your experience. It's people like that, that give the hobby a bad name. Apparently they don't care much for their reputation! It says a lot about your ethics, that you aren't just putting them on blast until you are for sure that it was an 'on purpose' rather than an accident. I breed leopard geckos, and have been thinking of getting into CFCs. Glad to have found your channel!
Yeah that's extremely scummy and i would genuinely consider dropping the name of the breeder.
If he has done that to one person then can guarantee he has done it before and is willing to do it to others.
I would’ve definitely started dropping names, and as much information I had on that scammer. These people need to be taught lessons and put it into
I’m sorry this happened to you. I have to admit, if I had been chatting with a vendor and felt comfortable with them, I probably wouldn’t have thought much of the snake bag either. I’ll know to be more careful now. Glad she’s found a home with you.😊
And this is why I trust morph market. If anyone has a negative experience they can note it for other potential buyers to see.
I always stay away from those where multiple people have complaints. I also don't really take chances on new accounts with zero feedback no matter how sweet the deal. Why? Because people scam they scam on Amazon, pet stores, in the expos, and on sites like morph market.
People have to dig if one is at the expo and the person wont let you physically observe the animal (check mouth, nose, vent, etc). The other thing is if they are young and aren't well started that can also be a red flag saying a good breeder ensures their babies are eating.
Anyways its trial and error there will be horrible people no matter where you go, so you just have to have your guard up and vet the heck out of them.
Maybe next time ask for the vendor-> look for any social media anything-> see what others have had to say. Might seem like a lot, but again safe than sorry.
Bro.......
With a little research and reaching out to other vendors and the show along with the producer of this particular show.....
You find out who finessed you and you contact them directly .
Bid when someone pulled this hustle we took care of it and they were given a chance to redeem otherwise they were blackballed in our industry..
Consequences are necessary to assure our culture is of the highest quality moving forward.....
Educational story.
Good share.......
Hoping you were able to give that particular creature an ideal environment and even reverse some of the mbd....
You gotta positive attitude my guy.....
One x
Yeah- the “who” is easy. The breeder told me the name of the person I dealt with when I reached out to them. I’ll ping an update of our conversation, but at the end of the day- the host and Breeder were both informed. If any of my advise is taken to check the business reviews before buying- people will NOT buy from here though. I hope even though I didn’t “name and shame,” that this could be considered when buying from any dealer. Which I do believe is more valuable than naming a business that 99% of the viewers won’t actually ever deal with.
Appreciate your insight 👊👊
This happened to me with a corn snake. The snake I got wasn't even the same morph lol! The ol' bait and switch. Very frustrating that so many scumbags like this exist in the reptile hobby. Unfortunately, a lot of crappy people are attracted to keeping/breeding/selling reptiles and other exotics. I have met more than a few in my time.
Holy shit. Yeah, that’s a yikes.
Least the reptile has a good home
If have lived to see her both at the time you noticed there was something wrong, and how she is doing now. Then you could have made it a series and kept following up with her and she could have been something like a mascot ^-^
So messed up.. thanks for sharing this info. Hopefully karma catches up with the breeder.
I really hope you let the expo organizers know about this. Besides the bait and switch scam, this is not a breeder who should be allowed to be at expos.
We absolutely notified the host. I also talked to the dealer. While they did not admit to the bait and switch, they did admit they mis identified them and that they were not with them long before selling.
Apparently it was a surrender flip or they purchased them somewhere cheap. CFC cannot be exported out of Cuba, so they weren’t importing them.
Either way- severe lack of knowledge and I still stand by my story of them switching it. They did ask to resolve the issue, but only after I called their bs. (Just sent them a link to a local rescue and told them to help all the animals that are mistreated as I’m not sending her back to them)
Thank you for taking care of the poor creature, sorry that you got scammed though. Terrible.
So sorry this happened to you :(
My friend bought a ground boa hatchling from a vendor at an expo too.
For context: she’s a vet assistant and has years of experience with reptiles too.
She asked the vendor a ton of questions and they seemed to be in the clear, animal was eating regularly and was in good shape according to the vendor.
Well in the end the the animal refused to eat completely, assist feeds were regurgitated every time and he didn’t pass stool once and eventually passed away within a short period of time. 😢
Obviously the animal was either sick or not established enough to be sold as the vendor claimed.
Sorry your friend had such a bad experience!
Appreciate you sharing! It really goes without saying that even an experienced reptile keeper can get taken advantage of.
More so just defining how thorough you need to be and not cut any corners when it comes to dealing with a new vendor (in my case).
Poor little girl this vendor was evil
I quit those expos years ago. Just not worth the time, chaos, and travel for me, let alone the money. The best way to get a reptile you want is through a breeder. Always check reviews.
Always vet your dealers - I was at Tinley and saw a pretty boa labeled as a Brazilian Short Tail Amarali, slightly different than a Bolivian Amarali, and it was almost half the cost as most. But it was a larger reseller who only knew it was CBB (obviously, they aren't really imported anymore) but no lineage or anything else. I spent more money but directly with Vin Russo on a Pure Sonoran Leopard boa instead. I know the lineage, and can wait to save for an Amarali one day. I have bought a Ball Python from a breeder locally I only just met but the animal was healthy and much less expensive lol. It's always some level of risk with a lesser known dealer especially if you haven't seen them around or they are from out of town and have no evidence of good dealings in the industry etc. Glad you can give the little one a better life, hopefully you can spread some awareness about the dealer in your area - have you spoken to the dealer or have any info on them? May be worth pursuing.
Definitely perusing contact with the dealer. I want to know what their side of the story is. Although they may not tell the whole truth, I’d like to know what they say.
I’m sorry that happened to you but thank you for sharing your story.
The problem of course is that for every lizard 'saved' like this, that dealer probably has a dozen more in the same condition waiting for the next bait and switch...
I also imagine that most of them will end up dying; chameleons are tricky under good circumstances, if someone isn't really good with reptiles, their chances of successfully nursing a lizard in that condition back to health seems pretty slim.
I bought a blizzard corn at an expo once; it seemed healthy enough to me, but died suddenly in like a month. Probably inbred with some congenital issue you couldn't see by looking...
You’re likely not wrong. I’d hope after reporting them to the host, notifying them I did report them, that they might not be so eager to do shady things… but you never know.
These are actually Anoles, not chameleons, opposed to their name. They do have the higher humidity requirements but not as fragile as a chameleon. But they did have actual chameleons as well.
You need to expose this thief so that no one else buys from him
Wow that's fraud. I would make a police report
At the end of the day idc what people say expos are just puppy mills and the only thing on the breeders mind is to make a quick profit.
I can understand why you come to that opinion, and I actually agree to an extent. There are several tables at every expo that are just loaded with whatever they can flip/breed to make a buck. There are a lot of smaller hobby breeders though, and legitimate businesses.
Much like the puppy world, there’s good, bad, and ugly. I don’t think you can completely cut all the good people out of the picture through.. it’s quite unfair to them… but of course your opinion sounds set, and I’m not here to change it- but rather just to say I can relate to a portion of it.
I was scamed at a sperm bank once, just once.
You took a photo of the animal before you bought her, so you should be able to prove that it's not the same one.
Report it to the expo organizer so they are not allowed to have booth the following yr
I overpaid for a spider at an expo, only for it to die within a few days of bringing it home from old age. I was told it was a sub adult /.\
Wow, obsoletely horrible
Oh no! Not sure if I can watch the rest. I can't believe the state that she was in😭😭💔
It’s a classic bait and switch scam
You need to name the business. It’s part of your moral duty to warn others of shady people by naming them so they don’t become their next victim
My “moral duty” doesn’t require catching a defamation case. I’ve reported to the appropriate contacts. That is what my moral duty is. I have told you how to avoid this happening. That was my moral duty. I have left review, contacted business, and reported to host. THAT is my moral duty.
Calling them out on youtube… not a moral duty at all.
Damn im thinking about getting my first snake at an upcoming expo i hope i don't get scammed
If this is all accurate, no responsibility falls on you. Its pretty sold to assume that the animal you purchase is the animal youre going to get.
I hate to say it man bc I’ve been there myself just not with the same animal. However I feel like we as buyers are partially responsible too bc when you pick out an animal and the seller doesn’t immediately pull said animal out to put in a temporary container while he gets the deli cup or whatever ready for you to transport and it’s within your sight at all times. When they pull the whole display off their table especially when there’s other animals in that container that’s a red flag in my experience. The container should stay on display with the other animals in it and only the one you have chosen should be pulled out again in your sight line at all times. I feel like when the dealer takes the whole display off is flag number 1, when you lose sight of the whole container or your specific animal is flag number 2, when they come back & the animal has been purposely masked in a snake bag, already in the container, & especially if the container is sealed with anything besides a small piece of scotch tape(unless it’s an animal requiring colored vinyl or electrical tape. Say venomous, bigger reptiles that are able to push the lid off if not fully taped down) it’s flag number 3. Again I’m not saying “you should’ve known” bc I’ve been taken the same way just different animal, different season as it was a summer expo so the whole arena was full of vendors tables from the hallways inside to the inner arena floor itself. Unfortunately it’s the reptile hobby & very unfortunate there’s slime balls out there who aren’t in it for anything besides the money & to get over on ppl. They don’t care about their animals and like you said that animal had lived its whole life in an expo display case, lacking proper nutrients, proper diet, proper heat, humidity, etc. they likely get put in a van under some garbage light bulbs and taken to the next show. It sucks but again it’s reptiles. Why we don’t band together as a community of responsible keepers who actually take care of and love our animals and start CALLING OUT THESE DISHONEST, CRAPPY VENDORS BY NAME EITHER THEIR PERSONAL NAME OR BETTER YET IF THEY HAVE A “BUSINESS” AND START BLACK LISTING THESE PEOPLE 1 EXPO AT A TIME! I’m sure they’d be repeat offenders the first few times the list was started but once word gets out the show coordinators will start checking the list and comparing the names & even better PHOTOS if possible to applicants they’ve had apply for a table and a spot & denying a spot to them!
I agree with the sentiment. I should have known. I think you prepare for it to happen, but don’t fully prepare until AFTER it happens once. I do believe these people are not the majority. The problem is one bad egg can mass produce on a scale like no other because they ethically don’t care about the reptiles.
I have to hatchlings now my female lays every month at least 2 not sure what I am going to do as I just spent lots of money on a 4x2x2 focus and have enough cages/enclosures now to house the parents and hatchlings separately I didn’t realize how easy and how common this is I definitely need to figure something out or I’ll have to get another female so he literally lays off of the other but trying not to think that far ahead right now
Oh Hell No.
God damit....
The outro was way way way too loud with headphones.
It's a shame you have to check your purchase before you leave the drive thru at a reptile expo. It also sucks that people who are that dishonest are breeders. It's kinda honorable that you're willing to hold yourself accountable in this scenario, but you really bear no fault. No one can be on their toes 100% of the time, especially when theyre dealing within their own community. You've gotta be so soooo low to prey on someone's trust in that way. People like that shouldn't even own plants.
Sounds like a Michigan expo....
You should have reported the seller for being deceitful.
Poor thing 💔
Please take yourself off the "I should've been smarter" hook.
Scammers are good at what they do. They slyly get your confidence and spring their trap.
Hi I'm new here I'm from Australia
I'd like to know if you reported this reptile breeder or seller cause that's just terrible
We contacted the show host and Breeder yes!
I think you need to say Cuban False Chameleon a few more times. 🤣
😂😂 not gonna lie- it was painful editing this and realizing how many times I said it.
So sorry this happened to you BUTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT you have saved a reptile. Thank you for caring for it
Thank you for the helpful tips at the end. I must admit, I was hoping to see her at the end!
I hope you didn't pay cash, if you didn't you can get your money back easily through your bank
It's probably cash. Almost at every expos , it's cash only. They usually have an ATM nearby.
I subscribed...you were at 666...LOL!
What species was it again?
It was an Iguana.
Ha!
leason learned
Jax Exotics is one vendor not to buy from. Horrible vendor. All the other vendors tell horror stories how he doesn’t feed them or vet them out. Just straight from being wild caught to the show. Doesn’t quarantine them and mixes different species of skinks together saying it’s ok.
It's pronounced anoli
Also.. yeah you should document this, image of the animal, proof of purchase, you show the image.
Like the guy literally committed a crime.
He committed fraud and you have all rights to go to small claims court and get him punished
Yeah, I think it’s commonly pronounced invariably.. but the correct pronunciation is Anole-e. You are right.
I have documented pictures from the show, and of the received reptile.
As far as small claims, it’s not worth it. Tbf it was only $100 and bringing attention to the matter is more important to me, than recovering the money. Aside from documenting the case as proof of their negligence toward their reptiles, I think we can satisfy that outside of any court. Not to mention my word against theirs won’t really hold any evidence. They could say that they mistakenly missexed the reptile and it crashed upon having the egg. That’s a pretty solid argument.
That’s also the reason I’m not outing them immediately. Although I strongly believe that’s not the case- I want to hear it from their mouth.
these days police dont consider fraud a crime but a "civil issue:" ... it sucks.
I think you got scammed by whoever made your mic too 😂
GRRRR! Appreciate the video and the tip; but damn, give us something at least. And you were going to say the scum bag was that sold it to you so that others would not get scammed by him. If you’re not gonna do that I was positive you want to show us the emoji question at the end so we would have a fuzzy feeling about the reptile you saved. But no. Nothing. Great intentions; I’ll give you that. But come on man. On the next one, work with us a little and give us something.
I understand there’s frustration that I didn’t name the business. To be honest- I probably won’t. I think throwing a business on blast should only be done when 100% of your story is backed up and supported, and after all, you’ve only heard half the story. Are they scum in my eyes? Absolutely!
I talked to the breeder and made a report to the host.
Did they try to reconcile? Yes. Was it to late? Yes.
My intentions of the video was to show people that you can get scammed regardless of your experience with reptiles. The intention wasn’t to make it a drama raid.
We arn’t letting them skip away- rest assured 😊
Appreciate you watching 👍
Name and shame
Situation: gets another lizard that’s unhealthy.
Everyone: Please tell us the who the dealer is to not get scammed.
Uploader: MMMMMMMMMH, mmmmmmhhhhh? NAAAAAAH.
You can’t just put a business on blast without being so black and white.
We are taking the steps necessary to inform who needs to be informed. Ie. The host, the breeder, and doing the diligence necessary instead of making drama posts.
Sorry if you don’t agree with that. 🤷🏻♂️
Please work on your volume. I would have loved to watch your video but I couldn't hear a thing.
The volume on my end is at 1/4 on my iPhone without issue. Is it to quiet on your end?
If you can't hear anything, clean the microphone out. It's a common problem. Use a dry, unused toothbrush, and if that doesn't help at all, go to the phone service for cleaning/repair. Or go to your phones store you got it from, and ask for a deep clean. May cost a few bucks given today's prices to even replace or update a phone, but repairs/cleaning isn't that awful yet unless they find damage.
Source: I'm a dirty person with skin issues and major dandruff. This causes bad clogging sometimes- Cleaning my phone is a nightmare, especially if it gets to the point I need a deep clean done by a professional- my old s7 was badly, badly clogged way before I had to update to my a11 against my consent/choice-
@@Zettysreptiles Super quiet on my laptop. I ended up watching on my Android and it a little louder.
Should tell us the dealers name!! It's absolutely wrong and horrible