Just like to say this was very interesting to see! To my untrained eye, the colours looked much better and slightly more detailed with you DIY rig compared to the Kodak scan A couple of questions which I don’t think you mentioned in your video: 1) Does the Pi Camera autofocus each frame? 2) Does the colour of the backlight (eg white, warm white, yellow) affect it? Looking forward to checking your other videos :)
@@richards7909 hey thanks! I’ve gotten much better results lately now that I’ve had more time with it and have tweaked my process. Regarding your questions! 1) yes. In the software there is a delay you can set each time a new frame is moved into position. I have mine set to 100ms and that seems to be fine. You could increase it but the sensor focuses very quickly. 2) Yes! Color of the light would definitely have an effect. You can adjust the white balance in the software, which I’ve been doing a lot of per scene now, but I haven’t experimented with different light. I don’t really have that ability as the LED is attached to the aluminum with thermal paste. I could however 3d print a new diffuser in a different color but I’m happy with my current results. Thanks for watching!
Very helpful video...thank you! I am considering embarking on the same journey because of my dissatisfaction with the consumer scanners. I may try to see if I can create a scanner that can also accommodate 16mm film.
@@TorgyChannel I’d love to be able to do both 8mm and 16mm. Something I want to look into adapting once I start shooting 16mm film. Gotta get a 16mm camera first!
My hat is off to you in wanting to do this. You must be really serious about your hobby!. One thing I am confused about and that is the film sensor you used. You say it is better than Kodak's. Is that because you used a higher resolution sensor? What accounts for the higher resolution?
@@moodberry it is a higher resolution than kodak’s but the biggest difference is mostly the ability to turn off/adjust the exposure and white balance. The Kodak scanner is always on auto which really creates a lot of issues. The Kodak sensor isn’t that bad at all. It’s just their software. It takes images but then compresses them into an MP4 versus just giving you image formats. My current workflow is to scan each frame and stabilize, color correct and then some upscaling. It’s a lot easier to do most of this with individual photos (especially scene by scene color correcting) than the mp4 format off of the Kodak scanner.
@Greenlightmike33 But when magnetic tape became available for consumers, they simply used the 8 mm home movie reels and it worked fine. I'm born in 1968, had a reel to reel tape and a 8 mm projector and noticed, that the same reels were used for both.
I’m so into Super 8 I hunted down a company that converts some Super 8 cameras to crystal sync control so you can record audio separately and after scanning the film sync it up in post (assuming you used a clapper board).
Great video. I've built my own frame by frame unit using a converted projector as i have good mechanical skils. Everything is perfect except the optics. I've been looking into the raspberry pi, but the programming seems like a nightmare to do. How hard is it to hook it up to a pc in a user friendly way?
@@super8sooty I didn’t do any of the programming so it hasn’t been too difficult. Some troubleshooting here and there but no coding on my part. Granted I’m following the build almost to the exact specs so not sure how much different it would be if you tried to use different equipment.
8:22 today, the question "What do you smoke doctor" is pretty rude on one side and tobacco commercials are illegal. By the way, it's pretty manipulative to ask _doctors_ .
I've been waiting forever for stupid wolverine/kodak to come to their senses and allow access to whatever the interim format is before they process and transcode. It's already there, let me have it and take my money you idiots. Or a hack, I don't care. I thought it would just be a matter of time before they released a new and improved version that allows access to what is already there, but now I'm starting to wonder. I have extra Pi's and stepper motors laying around, but at this point it feels like I might be the only person on the planet without a 3d printer.
@@Milkmans_Son seriously! It’s mind blowing that they could easily open up the program to be able to turn off the auto settings. No way it’s not that complicated. Honestly with how “cool and hip” Super 8 is becoming I’m surprised Kodak hasn’t jumped on the opportunity to sell a full “diy” kit. The scanner (with better software) a developing tank, ECN-2 chemistry and a cartridge of Vision3 stock. Honestly you should get a 3d printer lol. I bought a cheap elegoo one around 4 years ago and I still don’t know how to do anything in CAD. Every time I have some sort of problem I just google if someone has designed a file already. 9/10 times there is one. Hell, I found files for replacement parts for my USSR made Lomo tank for processing S8 film. It’s so convenient!
Nice video, and nice woodwork!
@@juanremirezdeesparza thanks! And thank you for all of your help and patience with me haha!
@@Greenlightmike33 No problem! Having more users really helps to improve the software.
Looks good buddy!
Thanks 👍
Just like to say this was very interesting to see! To my untrained eye, the colours looked much better and slightly more detailed with you DIY rig compared to the Kodak scan
A couple of questions which I don’t think you mentioned in your video:
1) Does the Pi Camera autofocus each frame?
2) Does the colour of the backlight (eg white, warm white, yellow) affect it?
Looking forward to checking your other videos :)
@@richards7909 hey thanks! I’ve gotten much better results lately now that I’ve had more time with it and have tweaked my process.
Regarding your questions!
1) yes. In the software there is a delay you can set each time a new frame is moved into position. I have mine set to 100ms and that seems to be fine. You could increase it but the sensor focuses very quickly.
2) Yes! Color of the light would definitely have an effect. You can adjust the white balance in the software, which I’ve been doing a lot of per scene now, but I haven’t experimented with different light. I don’t really have that ability as the LED is attached to the aluminum with thermal paste. I could however 3d print a new diffuser in a different color but I’m happy with my current results.
Thanks for watching!
this is so cool!
@@eykse hey thanks!
Very helpful video...thank you! I am considering embarking on the same journey because of my dissatisfaction with the consumer scanners. I may try to see if I can create a scanner that can also accommodate 16mm film.
@@TorgyChannel I’d love to be able to do both 8mm and 16mm. Something I want to look into adapting once I start shooting 16mm film. Gotta get a 16mm camera first!
My hat is off to you in wanting to do this. You must be really serious about your hobby!. One thing I am confused about and that is the film sensor you used. You say it is better than Kodak's. Is that because you used a higher resolution sensor? What accounts for the higher resolution?
@@moodberry it is a higher resolution than kodak’s but the biggest difference is mostly the ability to turn off/adjust the exposure and white balance. The Kodak scanner is always on auto which really creates a lot of issues. The Kodak sensor isn’t that bad at all. It’s just their software. It takes images but then compresses them into an MP4 versus just giving you image formats.
My current workflow is to scan each frame and stabilize, color correct and then some upscaling. It’s a lot easier to do most of this with individual photos (especially scene by scene color correcting) than the mp4 format off of the Kodak scanner.
@@moodberry I’ve uploaded a few examples if you look through my other videos.
8 mm reels are the same standard as home tape, so could use reel tape recorder parts.
@@verkehrsteilnehmer-berlin tape and film are not the same.
@Greenlightmike33 But when magnetic tape became available for consumers, they simply used the 8 mm home movie reels and it worked fine. I'm born in 1968, had a reel to reel tape and a 8 mm projector and noticed, that the same reels were used for both.
I’m so into Super 8 I hunted down a company that converts some Super 8 cameras to crystal sync control so you can record audio separately and after scanning the film sync it up in post (assuming you used a clapper board).
That’s what I would like to do next. Is it pro8mm that converts to crystal sync?
Great video. I've built my own frame by frame unit using a converted projector as i have good mechanical skils. Everything is perfect except the optics. I've been looking into the raspberry pi, but the programming seems like a nightmare to do. How hard is it to hook it up to a pc in a user friendly way?
@@super8sooty I didn’t do any of the programming so it hasn’t been too difficult. Some troubleshooting here and there but no coding on my part. Granted I’m following the build almost to the exact specs so not sure how much different it would be if you tried to use different equipment.
Do you know approximately how much it cost you to build?
8:22 today, the question "What do you smoke doctor" is pretty rude on one side and tobacco commercials are illegal. By the way, it's pretty manipulative to ask _doctors_ .
@@verkehrsteilnehmer-berlin it was a joke?
@@Greenlightmike33 They seriously made these commercials in the 1950's.
I've been waiting forever for stupid wolverine/kodak to come to their senses and allow access to whatever the interim format is before they process and transcode. It's already there, let me have it and take my money you idiots. Or a hack, I don't care. I thought it would just be a matter of time before they released a new and improved version that allows access to what is already there, but now I'm starting to wonder. I have extra Pi's and stepper motors laying around, but at this point it feels like I might be the only person on the planet without a 3d printer.
@@Milkmans_Son seriously! It’s mind blowing that they could easily open up the program to be able to turn off the auto settings. No way it’s not that complicated. Honestly with how “cool and hip” Super 8 is becoming I’m surprised Kodak hasn’t jumped on the opportunity to sell a full “diy” kit. The scanner (with better software) a developing tank, ECN-2 chemistry and a cartridge of Vision3 stock.
Honestly you should get a 3d printer lol. I bought a cheap elegoo one around 4 years ago and I still don’t know how to do anything in CAD. Every time I have some sort of problem I just google if someone has designed a file already. 9/10 times there is one. Hell, I found files for replacement parts for my USSR made Lomo tank for processing S8 film. It’s so convenient!