Thanks for posting. Your adjusted values for the surge damage types are a little under-valued, though. You multiplied the observed damage values by 0.75, but the proper calculation should be "observed" / 1.25 = "actual". True values for Solar should be 474k and 932k, and the Strand super should be 710k.
@@Killomainia I could be wrong but I believe they nerfed that a little while ago to make it not as effective. It might still work with the glaive bubble though
FINALLY, someone who actually rethrows the axes to get the proper damage additionally, proper bladefury rotation is 3 lights then a heavy, the heavy attack does ALOT of damage
While proper damage does mean rethrowing, I find the initial cast to be more valuable, as it gives an idea of the supers damage in long-range encounters/plate-style boss damage phases, where pickup isn't an option, and where titan's currently lag behind the other classes in terms of DPS
The glacial quake numbers make sense, it has huge damage potential but it's really hard to land all the crystals on a boss unless it's something like riven lol
For the stasis super, you can use the titan glaive to put a bubble down close to the boss, pop behemoth and pray the boss doesn't move. It's good against caitl in duality
Great video, glad to see the damage numbers for titan, really wish Titan had a bit more ranged options, they need to rework Pyrogale and make it able to work with Hammer of Sol so we can do some ranged dps while on Solar titan.
@@danilaglazaciov456 You're not the only one starting to think. Every week or two there's a top post on the subreddit wanting for Tcrash buffs. But you know, Bungie doesn't give af.
@@adamboy0559 Ursa Furiosa is the original exotic. Spirit of the Bear only includes the buff to unbreakable, which is understandable since banner shield isn't on Prismatic.
The only issue with twilight is if its a boss like the witness or oryx where you cant retrieve the relic axes you lose out on ~210,000 damage. Hopefully someday we get an exotic that buffs damage and makes it so the axes do dot damage or something if left sitting at a bosses feet.
@@icarusrising2787 The main issue is that HOIL was fucked into the ground by Bungie, and the Titan stuff we got in prismatic isn't great at all. Its fine when actually using prismatic, but otherwise, it's kinda shit.
@SSD_Penumbra I really just wish spirit of armamentarium was in the first column that'd make the choice so easy. Prismatic titan really got fucked compared to the other two
Star eaters is worse then Cuirass for Tcrash so it would be more like 480-500k for T crash. Which is still good given it takes no time. The other supers do.
You doing the wrong math to get pre surg damage. You are taking 25% away, instead of finding the value before 25% was added. You should be taking away 20% to get the base damage.
Let me think for a second Star eaters with stasis super that does more damage with orbs pick up wow riven is not going to come out and play with us he’ll no 😂😂
I have heard they are pumping out numbers but I don't care Titans are fun. it's that simple for me. Will have to try get a good roll on warlock to test at some point though.
I mean, Titans are alright. Prismatic Titans, on the other hand... It really is by far the worst class to use prismatic (not saying it's bad by any means, it just doesn't compare).
@@Anthony-sin-mas Titans are def pretty bad at the moment, the only thing we have going for prismatic is a melee that's pretty niche and other than that, our ranged super dps is awful and our only reliable subclasses are solar and strand.
Thanks for posting. Your adjusted values for the surge damage types are a little under-valued, though. You multiplied the observed damage values by 0.75, but the proper calculation should be "observed" / 1.25 = "actual". True values for Solar should be 474k and 932k, and the Strand super should be 710k.
yeah, I was made aware of this, you can also do x.8 instead of .75 I believe. I will have to make sure to not get it wrong in the future.
reading off glacial quake damage numbers with the "HOLY FUCKING SHIT" in the background is comical
Haha, yeah I had to keep that in, was my genuine reaction as was expecting ~800k at most 😂
@@DuskHoundjust need a bubble down to contain the crystals and need to see what that comes out too
That is a good shout, might be spicy, will have to see if I can do this
@@Killomainia I could be wrong but I believe they nerfed that a little while ago to make it not as effective. It might still work with the glaive bubble though
Holy shishh glacial quake. When did glacial become so op
FINALLY, someone who actually rethrows the axes to get the proper damage
additionally, proper bladefury rotation is 3 lights then a heavy, the heavy attack does ALOT of damage
Heavy then 3 lights, suspended targets take bonus damage from frenzied blade
While proper damage does mean rethrowing, I find the initial cast to be more valuable, as it gives an idea of the supers damage in long-range encounters/plate-style boss damage phases, where pickup isn't an option, and where titan's currently lag behind the other classes in terms of DPS
Throwing the floor axes will never be optimal in a DPS situation, I'd prefer to just see the throws so I can work the super into a damage rotation.
Most bosses you cannot do that so
Why would you rethrow when you can just use your heavy?
The glacial quake numbers make sense, it has huge damage potential but it's really hard to land all the crystals on a boss unless it's something like riven lol
I was looking for this thank you ! I got an Eternal Warrior/Star Eater roll, gonna need to try this out !
Best roll I got severance stareater
@@georgealvernia2711sames
That's one I want, will be so good for dmg rotations
@@DuskHound spirit of severance doesnt seem to be working on this
After all those eternal warrior rolls I finally got eternal warrior and star eaters
For the stasis super, you can use the titan glaive to put a bubble down close to the boss, pop behemoth and pray the boss doesn't move. It's good against caitl in duality
Thank you
Great video, glad to see the damage numbers for titan, really wish Titan had a bit more ranged options, they need to rework Pyrogale and make it able to work with Hammer of Sol so we can do some ranged dps while on Solar titan.
Keep in mind, there will indeed be times where you can’t throw the axes to get that extra damage (think a boss flying off in the distance)
I am aware, the boss will still get weakened so it's still worth.
Still pretty easy to hot those bosses.
thanks for testing ^-^
Use the bubble glaive and it should be a little more consistent if you can get the boss to stand still.
I gotta try this
I pulled Star Eater w/ Eternal Warrior lmbo that hot swap going to be crazy!
Would you consider testing lament after its nerf for optimal combo and damage comparison before and after?
4 light one heavy
Can you test the void axes without picking them up? I want to see its damage for bosses like the witness.
i would guess it’s only 60% of the total damage if you don’t throw the axes
the axes do around 70k each, so take about 210k away and that should be it.
So glad you made this video. I wanted to see a difference between cuirass and light eaters with thunder crash 😭
I plan on making a side by side comparison soon
star eaters is max 70% curiass is 100% extra damage plus overshield
I’m starting to think that thundercrash needs a damage buff. All the other damage supers are heavily outclassing it
@@danilaglazaciov456yeah but thundercrash damage is instantaneous while the axes take nearly 10 seconds to cast + throw all the axes
@@danilaglazaciov456 You're not the only one starting to think. Every week or two there's a top post on the subreddit wanting for Tcrash buffs. But you know, Bungie doesn't give af.
goated video bro, must have taken some time.
It took a bit yeah but had to get it done.
Just got a spirit of star eater and spirit of the bear - not too bad if i run the unbreakable fragment
Nice!!!
Oh dude same I literally just got it
Maximize that grenade energy boyo
What does bear do? I can’t think of any exotic with bear in it
@@adamboy0559 Ursa Furiosa is the original exotic. Spirit of the Bear only includes the buff to unbreakable, which is understandable since banner shield isn't on Prismatic.
Been using glacial
What about cuirass? Is the dmg lower or the same?
Cuirass is a 100% increase to Thundercrash while Star-Eater is only a 70% increase at max stacks
should be higher with cuirass, will test though
The only issue with twilight is if its a boss like the witness or oryx where you cant retrieve the relic axes you lose out on ~210,000 damage. Hopefully someday we get an exotic that buffs damage and makes it so the axes do dot damage or something if left sitting at a bosses feet.
Yeah it's risky AF to run in and grab them too sometimes.
Or you throw one axe and it ducking explodes
Or they bounce back to you so you have 6 throws
Should test to see if you can pop super with max feast of light then swap to Synthos for the surrounded buff to super damage
That’s disgusting. Let’s do it.
Last axe at 1:30 read as immune.
I did the maths and added it on, not ideal but should be accurate.
Did you test Stasis with the fragment that increases crystal damage?
Do we have that on prismatic?
@@DuskHoundThere’s facet of ruin which increases shatter damage
aright cheers, might of had it on. will have to check the build but if I can juice the numbers even more...
Thank you for adjusting for surges
no problems
Would love to get a hoil eater roll and a eternal eater roll
I have one. Its...not as good as it seems.
@SSD_Penumbra sad... guess I'll have to do severance eater just to play more into knockout
@@icarusrising2787 The main issue is that HOIL was fucked into the ground by Bungie, and the Titan stuff we got in prismatic isn't great at all. Its fine when actually using prismatic, but otherwise, it's kinda shit.
@SSD_Penumbra I really just wish spirit of armamentarium was in the first column that'd make the choice so easy. Prismatic titan really got fucked compared to the other two
Can you make a video on this exact build you are using for Titan with the exotic mark?
holy fucking shit indeed i'm switching over once i get a star eater roll
I've got stareater and hoarfrost on mine. Not a fan of the hoarfrost. Way better options out there. Gotta keep grinding.
May the RNG gods bestow favour upon ye!
What's the point of thundercrash anymore...
Star eaters is worse then Cuirass for Tcrash so it would be more like 480-500k for T crash. Which is still good given it takes no time. The other supers do.
star eaters is actually better dmg wise as the bonus applies to the aftershock too. I have a vide up showing it.
Its not worth using star eaters for T crash, Cuirass gives more.
incorrect, watch the video I have up on this.
You doing the wrong math to get pre surg damage. You are taking 25% away, instead of finding the value before 25% was added. You should be taking away 20% to get the base damage.
ah right, will have to keep this in mind, sorry bout that.
@@DuskHound no worries, thanks for making this video. Quick way to calculate this is to multiply the damage by 0.8.
Awesome
Let me think for a second Star eaters with stasis super that does more damage with orbs pick up wow riven is not going to come out and play with us he’ll no 😂😂
if my understanding is right it is around 70%, per projectile.
@@DuskHound is that the most damage super for titan if only you get the crystal to explode next to a target to get the full benefit
yes, you have to get the crystals to hit and shatter, thats why I prefer not to use it.
Now give us back the tracking we had for Behemoth in PvE. Keep it nerfed in PvP and we're good.
Tcrash is so bad😭
It's absolutely insane that it (and almost all titan supers) have a 9:30 cooldown, it literally can't even one hit a stunned champ.
DO NOT LOOK AT THIS AND START USING STASIS ON BOSS DPS , PLEASE
agreed, it's not easy and the crystals can screw up your fire teams hits.
You cant stop me
@@senormacaco2834 fireteam leader will kick you
@@shirosatsuma4946 Not when Im fireteam leader 😎
@@senormacaco2834 obviously not, then people just leave the team
Warlock makes Titan look like dog water. Titan supers are so bad. Warlocks even higher than hunters now
Brother you REP Warlock lol, this is the second vid I’ve seen u under. But I agree, Warlocks are up rn.
I have heard they are pumping out numbers but I don't care Titans are fun. it's that simple for me. Will have to try get a good roll on warlock to test at some point though.
I mean, Titans are alright. Prismatic Titans, on the other hand... It really is by far the worst class to use prismatic (not saying it's bad by any means, it just doesn't compare).
@@Anthony-sin-mas Titans are def pretty bad at the moment, the only thing we have going for prismatic is a melee that's pretty niche and other than that, our ranged super dps is awful and our only reliable subclasses are solar and strand.
Everyone running twilight arsenal on prismatic because the other supers all have insane cooldowns and are laughably useless lol