@@colemantrebor6574 Of course, but I think it has to be even more than just asking questions that don’t help haha. Because even if you went around and asked “Is this the shoe” for every shoe you picked up, you would in every outcome but one still guess less than the number of shoes lol. There has to be a lotttt of unnecessary questions in that segment 😂
Either what Coleman suggested, or asking the same questions over and over again. Which to my understanding is exactly what Bridget did. :D I think this was filmed on the same day the interviews where done. Must have been one hell of a day for poor Alex. :'D
Contestants has forced Alex to do some horrible things over the course of this show but I kinda love that the thing that finally made him show genuine annoyance was being asked 161 stupid questions.
he has been annoyed before, it's just that Greg pointed it out this time. Rewatch the Chinese water torture scene - it made greg very happy. I suppose usually they cut out those bits to keep things light ;)
Eventually it ends up like being the only sober person in a group. Hearing the same jokes, answering the same "Hey! Hey, have you ever thought of this" ideas ..........gets really un-fun, quickly.
This is what IQ tests sort of do, usually. We basically pointed out that in some circumstances, she can't see the forest for the trees. Experience has a lot to do with that, maybe shoes upset her ;)
@@corbeau-_- To be fair, she has shown traits synonymous with adhd, and while adhd doesn't correlate with intelligence, it can make these tasks especially hard. I and other people afflicted with adhd will often ask a question and forget to listen to the answer.
Ardal completely shitting the bed here but then fluking the correct shoe at random from the pile outside is like hitting the golf ball directly into the water from the tee on a par 3, wasting two strokes, and then hitting a “hole in one” with your second drive to end up with par
If you haven't heard Ardal on the Taskmaster podcast yet (he was a great guest), he is still very confused about what Alex would'nt wear to a funeral lol
“But if I ask him would he wear the shoe to a funeral, and he says ‘no’, I chuck out the ones he would… NOT… wear? Right?” Tying himself in negative tenses. 🤣 He even spotted his mistake on the day and then made it again!
Honestly I think the trick here would be to go by location in the room rather than appearance. Stand in the center of the room and ask if the show is to your left. Turn 90 degrees and ask again. Now you've essentially reduced the room (and possible pool of shoes) to 1/4th what it was with only 2 questions.
Yes, it's called binary search. Alex also refers to this during the episode. I think 7 (or was it 8?) is the amount of questions needed, unless you have a lucky guess.
The problem with the question "would you wear it to a funeral" is that it can be interpreted in tow ways. Either it is a shoe that would be ok to wear at a funeral for _someone_ (which helps sort out the shoes), or it means a shoe that Alex himself would wear to a funeral, which does not help, as a shoe he would not wear at all might still be acceptable footwear at a funeral.
In theory, if you always ask a question that separates the shoes into two groups of equal size, you can get the correct pair of shoe out of 1024 pairs with just 10 questions.
He must have never played guess who lol. He could have just asked if it was on the left side of the room or if it's in the front row etc. Cuts massive amounts out immediately.
@@Silvergrooves42 That would have been how I would have solved it. Probably wouldn't be nearly as entertaining for the audience unless they were all data scientists or programmers, though...
@@awareqwx Doing the most optimal strategy for every task is probably not good as a whole for the show. They wanna show people just having fun with it and taking a piss with it (is that british slang, am I doing it right?)
After listening to the finale episode of Ed’s TM podcast with Sophie I think I can understand and appreciate why Sophie was not in the best of spirits for this one
My solution would be to divide the shoes into two piles, gesture to one pile and ask if the shoe is amongst it. The answer would instantly eliminate half and narrow it down further still until a better yes/no question would be better such as colour or type.
I need to see all 12 minutes of the Maypole Task, as well. Actually, I just can’t get enough Bridget: she’s a splendid mash-up of Katherine Parkinson, Paul Chowdhry, and Deskie Dennis, and she sounds like Sara Pascoe.
I would have divided the shoes into two piles and ask Alex Is the shoe in this pile and with just a few questions you would have elliminated a lot of shoes.
Was there a rule that you couldn’t leave the room? I see no reason that Ardal couldn’t’ve gone outside instead of reaching through the window. And at least one other contestant had to reach through, IIRC.
That's what alex suggested in the studio, halving the number of shoes each time leads you to the shoe in 7 guesses, so that means there were 128 (2^7) shoes in the room
@@fisheatsyourhead Haha, awesome. Without any prior info I suppose you can't do better than log_2(# shoes) guesses (well, unless you either get lucky with your choice of questions or have access to a quantum oracle version of Alex)
@@h4lo Yeah, I think that's the lowest "worst case" time - whereas just picking a shoe at random *could* give you it in 1 guess, at the worst case it'd take 128 guesses, and 64 on average. That would be "linear search", whereas binary search is I think the best for an unsorted assortment of objects like this example, because the average is the same as the worst case, so O(log_2(n)) instead of O(n)
They could have done it with no questions. Just throw all of them out the window then display each in turn on the window sill. Remember, it's scored based on questions rather than time.
@@wiiuandmii7619 The task doesn't say they have to identify it, they just have to display it. If you display every shoe there one at a time, you will at some point have displayed the correct one.
How to find the right shoe from a group of N shoes using log2(N) questions: "Is it in the left half of the room?" "No." "I must find the shoe!" *throws out all shoes in the left half of the room* "Is it in the front half of the room?" "Yes." "I must find the shoe!" *throws out all shoes in the back half of the room* Etc
Can't he just get Alex think of a certain shoe instead? Like advertising the shoe, describing it in every detail even if some descriptions are wrong, making him wear it and imagine using it. By definition, he would be thinking about that shoe. The question he only needs is, "have you already imagined wearing this shoe in the coast of the Carribean?" or something along the lines.
I'd count that as a hint that it's a women's shoe (wear what you like, it's marketed and produced for females) when Alex says "I wouldn't wear it (my wife might)."
"Would you wear it to a funeral?" "No." then he removes the shoes that you wouldnt wear to a funeral, gets reminded he messed up and then later on goes back to "well you wouldnt wear these to a funeral"
honestly since it wasnt timed (And if I was palying as an efficient smart boy not an entertainer) I Wouldve taken the time to line them up put my hand at the half way point and ask it to the left of my hand halved my chooses repeat on the remaining half so im left iwth a quarter and hopefully I was samrt enough to pair them up so each quarter had unique enough shoes I could ask a third specific question depends on waht remains and get it in 3
I would have loved to see a contestant remove all shoes except one random one then force alex to think about it by making him stare at only that shoe for a long amount of time. no time penalty and no questions asked
I was checking the comments to see if someone else thought about it. I think no one can argue that you are thinking of the only shoe you are looking at
Can anybody tell me of he was disqualified? He forgot to say his phrase after every answer, and every other shoe was visible when he presented the correct shoe (which was said in the task they couldn't be visible)
"Alright Alex" Grabs a shoe "Think of this shoe" Puts it down "Thinking of it?" Hope he says yes then toss the other shoes out before pointing at the shoe "That the shoe?"
No one said displaying a shoe was a question. Just hide all the shoes behind a table, then pick up and show them one at a time and say "I am displaying this as the shoe Alex is thinking of". There you go, task complete with zero questions asked.
1) Does the shoe have laces? --- Throw all the laced shoes out 2) Is it a black shoe? --- Throw all the black shoes out 3) Is it a male or female shoe .--- And on. What he could have done was ask "is the shoe you're thinking of still in the room?".
Hi there, ho there TM peoples... I can't find Ep 78 or 79 of Taskmaster Podcast in the usual places, anyone got some advice? Plus Iv not found The TM People's Podcast, so would like some info on that too. TY from a Scottish TM head, stuck in Tennessee. Help me!
I really want to see Bridget’s attempt uncut. I wish to know how it’s possible to ask more questions than there were shoes.
you ask a question that doesn't eliminate any shoes
@@colemantrebor6574 Of course, but I think it has to be even more than just asking questions that don’t help haha. Because even if you went around and asked “Is this the shoe” for every shoe you picked up, you would in every outcome but one still guess less than the number of shoes lol. There has to be a lotttt of unnecessary questions in that segment 😂
Either what Coleman suggested, or asking the same questions over and over again. Which to my understanding is exactly what Bridget did. :D
I think this was filmed on the same day the interviews where done. Must have been one hell of a day for poor Alex. :'D
She asks a few times if she can ask a question
@@colemantrebor6574 bro how are you writing comments? Hango killed you on Geonosis.
Contestants has forced Alex to do some horrible things over the course of this show but I kinda love that the thing that finally made him show genuine annoyance was being asked 161 stupid questions.
Ok, just one more thing!
he has been annoyed before, it's just that Greg pointed it out this time. Rewatch the Chinese water torture scene -
it made greg very happy. I suppose usually they cut out those bits to keep things light ;)
Eventually it ends up like being the only sober person in a group.
Hearing the same jokes, answering the same "Hey! Hey, have you ever thought of this" ideas ..........gets really un-fun, quickly.
Have
What episode is that scene?
How Bridget went from a literal perfect score in the previous episode to asking more questions than the amount of shoes in this one is beyond me.
You know you messed up when it literally would have been faster to just go around the room pointing to each shoe and asking "is it this one?"
This is what IQ tests sort of do, usually. We basically pointed out that in some circumstances, she can't see the forest for the trees. Experience has a lot to do with that, maybe shoes upset her ;)
"During this task you get an additional point for every moment of confusion or self-doubt."
@@corbeau-_- To be fair, she has shown traits synonymous with adhd, and while adhd doesn't correlate with intelligence, it can make these tasks especially hard. I and other people afflicted with adhd will often ask a question and forget to listen to the answer.
@@caitthecat i know all too well... :)
At the beginning I was 100 % sure that Alex thinks about the contestants own shoe.
Or his own! That would be cruel... and funny. Or if those would count for the other shoes he must not be able to see at the end.
Right I thought he would go for the shoes of the contestant/ his own/ anyone of the crew OR one that is outside the room
is it appropriate to reply to a 2 year old comment?
For context - "would you wear it to a funeral?" is actually an unbelievably Irish thing to consider.
How? I'm pretty sure every country has funerals
@@degiguess nope, just Ireland. no other country has funerals unfortunately :/
@@degiguess Irish funerals are...something else.
@@degiguess You have to remember, Ireland was basically a Catholic version of Iran until relatively recently.
@@kisbie is this pre or post shar you're talking about?
Chris Ramsey's "NOO WAY!" was gold in this.
Nor whey!!!!
Knew whey!
🇳🇴!
Am I ever gonna see your face again?
Ardal completely shitting the bed here but then fluking the correct shoe at random from the pile outside is like hitting the golf ball directly into the water from the tee on a par 3, wasting two strokes, and then hitting a “hole in one” with your second drive to end up with par
This will be on my list of favorite tasks of all time. Really enjoyed this one
Mine too! No Way!!
@@AnamFatima Chris has been very funny so far.
If you haven't heard Ardal on the Taskmaster podcast yet (he was a great guest), he is still very confused about what Alex would'nt wear to a funeral lol
I agree, I listened to it as well, Ed Gamble trying to explain it to him...very much like Father Dougal and the cows :-)
“But if I ask him would he wear the shoe to a funeral, and he says ‘no’, I chuck out the ones he would… NOT… wear? Right?” Tying himself in negative tenses. 🤣 He even spotted his mistake on the day and then made it again!
Fairly certain alex would wear whatever greg told him to.
Where did you find it? pretty plez
Does anyone have a time stamp for that part of the podcast?
Honestly I think the trick here would be to go by location in the room rather than appearance. Stand in the center of the room and ask if the show is to your left. Turn 90 degrees and ask again. Now you've essentially reduced the room (and possible pool of shoes) to 1/4th what it was with only 2 questions.
Yeah Alex said that the easiest way is to divide the room, then you'll get the right shoe in 7 questions!
Why didn't we ask Alex to point to the shoe he was thinking of.
@@STR33TZK1NG because it was yes or no questions only
@@degiguess I don't know how I didn't hear that but sure enough it was said 😅
@@STR33TZK1NG "Could you please point to the shoe you're thinking of?" "No."
'shoe who' absolutely destroyed me for at least a whole minute
13 seasons in and still making bangers. This is one of the best
I need a supercut of every time Chris Ramsay says "NO WEEEY!"
This became one of my favourite tasks in 13 series
Same here!
I can't believe he didn't start with " is it a man's shoe?"
13 seasons and they still got it
I need Chris Ramsey's "No Way!!" compilation.
Thinking about it I suspect the most efficient way to do this is binary search: dividing the shoes into two groups and asking if it's in one of them.
Yeah "is the shoe on this side of the room" then split in half as you go.
"Is it on my left?" and then work from there.
Exactly the same thought! How is it not everyone's approach??
Even better dividing in three groups: sides and middle. And ask "is the shoe on the middle grouo?"
I was totally with her at that
"Shoe Who....
..
..
Guess Shoe" moment.
Your brain knows there is a pun to be made, but you can't quite see it.
I like both of those versions
I am wondering, did Ardal go first and Alex thought "Sod it, I'll say yes and that's the one for all the others... I want lunch."?
The most efficient way would be to split the shoes into two piles and repeatedly ask if it was in a specific pile.
Yes, it's called binary search. Alex also refers to this during the episode. I think 7 (or was it 8?) is the amount of questions needed, unless you have a lucky guess.
The problem with the question "would you wear it to a funeral" is that it can be interpreted in tow ways.
Either it is a shoe that would be ok to wear at a funeral for _someone_ (which helps sort out the shoes), or it means a shoe that Alex himself would wear to a funeral, which does not help, as a shoe he would not wear at all might still be acceptable footwear at a funeral.
This task is unbelievably on point. Great idea
I would have asked if the shoe was in the left half of the barn, instantly cut the possibilities in half.
Yep, Alex said you get the answer in 7 questions if you repeatedly ask questions like this that cut the possibilities in half.
Binary search is the best!
The smartest approach is rarely the funniest.
If Ardal had asked that, he’d have confused himself the moment he turned round.
This was hilarious i want the full task😭😭
Looked up the clip in hopes of seeing Chris's part, so a little disappointed by editing & titling, but never truly disappointed at seeing Ardal.
Oh Ardal.. You're not doing the Irish stereotype any favours with not understanding your own question 😂
Yeah Irishes should whack bro for this garbage, setting us back 75 years
Will the Taskmaster be happy, And can you help me back in?
Nor asking a lot about funerals
Judy's laugh after every question is what got me 🤣🤣
My immediate thought is " is the shoe to my right?" Keep moving the shoes so half are on each side
In theory, if you always ask a question that separates the shoes into two groups of equal size, you can get the correct pair of shoe out of 1024 pairs with just 10 questions.
The first question might need to be "is the shoe in this room?".
I have rewatched this task so many times. I have no idea why but it might be my favorite
He must have never played guess who lol. He could have just asked if it was on the left side of the room or if it's in the front row etc. Cuts massive amounts out immediately.
Binary search! Eliminating half of the possibilities each guess is pretty close to optimal.
My first Q would have been, “does it have laces?”
@@Silvergrooves42 That would have been how I would have solved it. Probably wouldn't be nearly as entertaining for the audience unless they were all data scientists or programmers, though...
Yep. Say is it a red or black shoes or such helps cut down more than one type at a time.
@@awareqwx Doing the most optimal strategy for every task is probably not good as a whole for the show. They wanna show people just having fun with it and taking a piss with it (is that british slang, am I doing it right?)
I love the recent Taskmaster Podcast with Lou Sanders...she thought his name was Ardlo Hanlon 🤣
Loose Anders.
The intro looks like a horror film, where a wedding party disappeared, leaving only their shoes
After listening to the finale episode of Ed’s TM podcast with Sophie I think I can understand and appreciate why Sophie was not in the best of spirits for this one
Can you fill me in on why?
I just love Judy with all my heart, she makes me absolutely cackle everytime 🤣🤣
My solution would be to divide the shoes into two piles, gesture to one pile and ask if the shoe is amongst it. The answer would instantly eliminate half and narrow it down further still until a better yes/no question would be better such as colour or type.
ok i gotta see this one in its entirety!
Alex got it wrong he said would you not where it to a funeral and Alex said no, which is a double negative meaning he was saying yes.
The look on Ardal face when he’s looking out of the window
Upload Bridget’s full attempt please.
I need to see all 12 minutes of the Maypole Task, as well. Actually, I just can’t get enough Bridget: she’s a splendid mash-up of Katherine Parkinson, Paul Chowdhry, and Deskie Dennis, and she sounds like Sara Pascoe.
Alex finally finds his match. Let's go Bridget!
I would have divided the shoes into two piles and ask Alex Is the shoe in this pile and with just a few questions you would have elliminated a lot of shoes.
That's what Chris did
@@thechillindude4478 ok. I'm from Sweden so I can't see the program. Did he win the task?
@@Blidsater yup
Was there a rule that you couldn’t leave the room? I see no reason that Ardal couldn’t’ve gone outside instead of reaching through the window. And at least one other contestant had to reach through, IIRC.
Nothing was stated that they couldn't leave but that's one of the great things about the show - it messes with the mind.
@@Elwaves2925Katherine Parkinson logic
I would also love to see all Bridget’s questions 😅
Honestly has to be one of my fave contestants from the entire show
Please upload the full episodes again! I can't watch it in any other way since I live in the Netherlands
"so this is like Guess Who. With shoes"
"what is it called?"
"shoe who"
😅
WOOO I LOVE TASKMASTER
NO WAY!!
Where’s the rest of the task? Why only post partial tasks?
I would just tell Alex to pick out the shoe he's thinking of.
They didn't say commands weren't allowed
I would've gone for a binary search. Divide the shoes into two piles, ask "is it in the left pile", divide the left pile into two piles, etc. etc.
This is why they get comedians on the show. Nobody wants to see that boring shit.
That's what alex suggested in the studio, halving the number of shoes each time leads you to the shoe in 7 guesses, so that means there were 128 (2^7) shoes in the room
@@fisheatsyourhead Haha, awesome. Without any prior info I suppose you can't do better than log_2(# shoes) guesses (well, unless you either get lucky with your choice of questions or have access to a quantum oracle version of Alex)
@@h4lo Yeah, I think that's the lowest "worst case" time - whereas just picking a shoe at random *could* give you it in 1 guess, at the worst case it'd take 128 guesses, and 64 on average. That would be "linear search", whereas binary search is I think the best for an unsorted assortment of objects like this example, because the average is the same as the worst case, so O(log_2(n)) instead of O(n)
Forgot to say "I have to find the shoe" after the last question.
so disappointed they stop posting the episodes.....
they really forgot the outside fans!
I would have gone "OK Alex, start thinking about this shoe" and discarded all the other shoes.
If you jammed a high heel or the cleats down his pants, he would be thinking of that shoe.
certified hugh dennis play
They could have done it with no questions. Just throw all of them out the window then display each in turn on the window sill. Remember, it's scored based on questions rather than time.
But they still would have needed to ask “Is this the shoe?” for one question.
@@wiiuandmii7619 The task doesn't say they have to identify it, they just have to display it. If you display every shoe there one at a time, you will at some point have displayed the correct one.
Was rewatching this and realized the music was the ThermoMan theme. No Way!
How to find the right shoe from a group of N shoes using log2(N) questions:
"Is it in the left half of the room?"
"No."
"I must find the shoe!" *throws out all shoes in the left half of the room*
"Is it in the front half of the room?"
"Yes."
"I must find the shoe!" *throws out all shoes in the back half of the room*
Etc
Alex experienced what the criminals on Columbo go through
Can't he just get Alex think of a certain shoe instead? Like advertising the shoe, describing it in every detail even if some descriptions are wrong, making him wear it and imagine using it. By definition, he would be thinking about that shoe. The question he only needs is, "have you already imagined wearing this shoe in the coast of the Carribean?" or something along the lines.
I don't think this is the first time he has been that annoyed, it can't be.
I'd count that as a hint that it's a women's shoe (wear what you like, it's marketed and produced for females) when Alex says "I wouldn't wear it (my wife might)."
you really didn't need to qualify what you meant by women's shoe. men and women are different. we wear different things. our biology is not the same.
"Would you wear it to a funeral?" "No."
then he removes the shoes that you wouldnt wear to a funeral, gets reminded he messed up and then later on goes back to "well you wouldnt wear these to a funeral"
Where are the episodes!? Alex you promised :(
How are people commenting about other contestants? I only saw one person go in this clip
honestly since it wasnt timed (And if I was palying as an efficient smart boy not an entertainer) I Wouldve taken the time to line them up put my hand at the half way point and ask it to the left of my hand halved my chooses repeat on the remaining half so im left iwth a quarter and hopefully I was samrt enough to pair them up so each quarter had unique enough shoes I could ask a third specific question depends on waht remains and get it in 3
Didn't say "I have to find the shoe" after each question
noooo!!! Where are the other performances??? Is the rest of the video available somewhere?
Is it on the left side? That’s half the shoes right there. Split it a more couple times and go for descriptions
I would've just made Alex think of the first shoe I got a hold of. No questions. Only commands with a light touch of sadism.
is it on your left side of the room, is it in the closer or further half of the room. pretty sure these question should always be your starters
do they not post full episodes/tasks anymore?😢
No more full episodes on utube?
I hate it when you don't uploaded the other contestants too :(
Oh, no! Where's the rest?!?
I would have loved to see a contestant remove all shoes except one random one then force alex to think about it by making him stare at only that shoe for a long amount of time. no time penalty and no questions asked
I was checking the comments to see if someone else thought about it. I think no one can argue that you are thinking of the only shoe you are looking at
I want to see Father Dougal for one task please.
I just had a tonsillectomy and this one made me laugh so much. it hurtsssss
What about the other contestants?
aww dammit not the full one :(
Before watching this I'm guessing it's his shoe or theirs that they are wearing
I would binary search the heck out of this task ;-)
Is the shoe in this half of the room. repeat 8 times, re-distributing the shoes after each guess.
"NOH WEHHH!"
i have to find the shoe
theres a typo in the description. you say "is" instead of "if"
Shoes on the table nooo! Bad luck..
YOU LET DOUGAL DO A FUNERAL (shoes question)!!!!!!
Can anybody tell me of he was disqualified? He forgot to say his phrase after every answer, and every other shoe was visible when he presented the correct shoe (which was said in the task they couldn't be visible)
If I remember right he came third, pretty much everyone forgot the ‘say/do something’ rule at some points but they didn’t get penalised for it
he was publicly executed
"Alright Alex" Grabs a shoe "Think of this shoe" Puts it down "Thinking of it?" Hope he says yes then toss the other shoes out before pointing at the shoe "That the shoe?"
“Would you please point to the shoe you’re thinking of”
No one said displaying a shoe was a question. Just hide all the shoes behind a table, then pick up and show them one at a time and say "I am displaying this as the shoe Alex is thinking of". There you go, task complete with zero questions asked.
1) Does the shoe have laces? --- Throw all the laced shoes out
2) Is it a black shoe? --- Throw all the black shoes out
3) Is it a male or female shoe .--- And on.
What he could have done was ask "is the shoe you're thinking of still in the room?".
We need "NOHWHIEE!"
Hi there, ho there TM peoples... I can't find Ep 78 or 79 of Taskmaster Podcast in the usual places, anyone got some advice? Plus Iv not found The TM People's Podcast, so would like some info on that too. TY from a Scottish TM head, stuck in Tennessee. Help me!
Did one of the actors take part in 'Fr Ted' the series?
Could have narrowed a lot down by (is it in this half of the room)
Does anyone know what episode in season 13 this is from please? Or where I can watch the other contestants attempts? ❤️
Someone ate all the pies didn't they.........
Lmfao poor Alex