5 Deleted Scenes No One Got to See from Spirit: Stallion of the Cimarron (2002) Movie
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- 5 Altered or Deleted Scenes and Storylines from Dreamworks Animated Movie Spirit: Stallion of the Cimarron.
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I find it mildly infuriating that this move got downgraded into some some stupid Netflix series,it goes against everything the original movie stands for.
YES! I absolutely hate Riding Free with a PASSion and I literally ranted about it in another comment thread on this video lol.
I get that they’re trying to make a show for kids but it’s like the teen Titans reboot: the original is perfect and shouldn’t be messed with, especially not with the garbage of these spin offs/reboots
I couldn't tell you guys how many times I challenge my younger siblings for liking that pathetic series. Through reasonable criticism of course.
@@teentraveler1790 it’s seriously not too bad, I watch it with my niece because she loves it, and because I love her like my own daughter, by default I love spirit too. There is no need to slam on your younger siblings (or anyone for that matter) because they enjoy something that you don’t. Imagine if you were being judged by your older sibling for liking horses. It wouldn’t feel too great, plus, you could always show your siblings the shows and media you liked when you were younger, maybe horseland or the original spirit. You could even watch a few episodes of riding free with them! :) I don’t mean for this to come across as rude, but us horse kids have to stick together.
I hate netflix. They are lazy and ruin anything that shine out of their hands until it get into em.
the spirit series isn't even about the same horse so why are you so mad about it?
I think I'd like to see the "bad" version being played by a different horse character rather than spirit. Would be cool to see a new film made with this story line and a new character.
I’d actually like to see spirit in this as well!
A Spirit cinematic universe? Featuring the stories of other horses during this time period? Sounds great!
@@Trecherousbeast that would actually be a good idea, like seeing how horses lived in that time period. kind of like in black beauty how he starts life as a nobleman's horse, but as time goes on he is passed down and eventually becomes a work horse
@@vanillabean5672 what I like the most about original movies like Spirit is the universe they introduce, so whenever a creator says something along the lines of “I love the world I built, but the characters story is over” I always think well, why not make more characters in this universe. The mining ponies in the original screenplay sound like they could have a story of their own! And why not focus on different time periods too!
You could just watch Black Beauty.
While I certainly think a darker tale would be very interesting, I can't see myself enjoying it as a child and even now I find the movie we got to be one of the surprisingly few uplifting horse movies (at least that aren't cheesy and actually focus on the horse) and it's still very memorable and iconic, so I'm glad they changed their minds!
I agree, this was one of my favorite movies as a child, and I would not have enjoyed it if it had been what was originally planned, however now as an adult, I think it would be interesting to see.
heck, i think i was just a messed up kid then, because i know little child me would've enjoyed the darker storyline as well-
this is my favourite animated movie and has been since i was little. however, i think the only uplifting part of the movie is the happy ending and even in that it comes with the price of three broken hearts. it's a pretty dark movie all together, and yes it has some happy bits in the middle, but most of it is of pain and struggle.
same, I would have been horrified by the first 3 plots. It's more realistic, but we don't need realistic for kids movies .o.
Totally agree. Even as an adult I cringe. It may have been a better movie, but I don’t know anyone who has wanted to watch Schindler’s list more than once. I feel like this would have been the same. It’s too sad, especially for a children’s film.
I'm happy Spirit turned out the way it did because it's the only unique horse movie that truly focuses on the horse as it's own sentient being and not just a side character for the protagonist human. It also shows the importance of freedom, true friendship between a horse and rider and tells you to never give up.
Never seen Black Beauty huh?
@@bezoticallyyours83 I've seen Black Beauty and read the novel too. While I love the messages the story gives us, it's still not about the true essence of a wild horse. It's actually about a sad, )and sometimes happy) existence of a domesticated horse, who is serving humans. Horses are more than just slaves and no other movie displays that so well as Spirit. Black Beauty was revolutionary for other reasons; it showed the mistreatment of these animals and how they deserve human kindness. Spirit Stallion of the Cimarron demonstrated the true magnificence of a free horse and how important FREEDOM is for a horse. Little Creek understood that, despite of forming a friendship with Spirit and let both Rain and Spirit go. It's very symbolic and beautiful. It truly portrayed the real essence, spirit and beauty of a Mustang. Spirit is the hero of his own movie, while other horse movies mostly use the same old cliche plot; horses are shown as human accessories to 'magnify' the protagonist human's abilities or help him/her achieve success somehow.
@@weloveTM123 You never said "eild horse." You just said focusing on the horse as its own character.
@@bezoticallyyours83 Well, my bad then. That doesn't change the fact how unique and unlike any other horse movie/story Spirit Stallion of the Cimarron is.
Spirit actually has a quite a few similarities with The Silver Brumby. Both are about a wild horse that cannot (and won't) be tamed, and both has the huge leap off/over a cliff to avoid capture. The movie version of The Silver Brumby unfortunately has a lot of humans, but still focuses on the brumbies freedom. The TV show is okay but it's very kid friendly, and the books are ONLY from the point of view of the horses, with humans pretty much only appearing as enemies of the wild horses. If you haven't watched/read it yet, I definitely recommend it. Dreamworks most likely took some inspiration from The Silver Brumby when making Spirit (not that I blame them. They still managed to create a unique story)
I do agree that the original storyline would have been too dark for a kid's movie, but I still would like to have seen it.
Phantom The Mountain Dragon I agree
I say I would like to see this better then how they did it
They should make another but instead of Spirit have it be another horse and have original story line and then they wouldn’t even have to market it towards kids
It's Black Beauty. I read that book when I was about 10.
I wouldnt have minded the Darker version, but i do agree this is more original.
yep
Now its about not giving up and finding your home again. I like that
I can no longer see the word "Spirit" without thinking of the absolute garbage "Riding Free" series.
Like if you agree, let's be angry together :)
same its so annoying
Same
Yeah wow I mean at least make it just a little bit realistic
Riding Free is misunderstood, but that's not me saying it deserves respect.
Things that stick out:
-its years after the 02 spirit roamed
- they blow up the mountains that 02 Spirit became liberated on
- the main character rejects pretty and proper at first, then becomes liberated when she learns that her mother wore beautiful dresses when dancing on horse back (which is a GREAT message to girls, like, DON'T COMPLETELY reject your feminine heritage)
BUT THE SCENE THAT GETS ME THE MOST:
In Riding Free they help a horse give birth, and for a brief couple seconds, a bag of oats flies out of the mares vagina.
And I mean FLIES
They yank so hard that it throws them back... but its oats or mulch or what ever...
And then it turns into foal.
@@Heytrigger It’s a children’s show- I don’t think they’d show ACTUAL horse birth
Honestly I like that they kept little creek because the image of this wild horse and a Native American man uniting against the colonizers trying to “break” both of them has a really strong message
Fun fact! Spirit is NOT a buckskin coat color like alot of people say. He is actualy a dun. You can see it because of the dorsal stripe (the stripe that is on the back of the horse)
I thought so! But I don't know much on horses so I wasn't fully sure
Cool
Isn't he technically a dunskin has he has the dun dilution meaning that he had dun as well as buckskin! He's a pretty fancy pants genetically lol
@@caitlynharbidge3056 actually the Dun and the Buckskin are competley diferen coat colors. The Buckskin actually comes from the Bay colour with a cream gean. Wile the Dun is NOT a Bay with a cream gean, the Dun has its own gean making it a Dun. You can tell the difference between a Buckskin and a Dun because Duns have primative markings( dorsal stripe, sripes around the legs and shoulder stripes) while the Buckskin does not have any primative markings. Hopefully this helped tell the difference between a Buckskin and a Dun.😁
The real life mustang that inspired Spirit is a bay dun, not a buckskin or dunskin. But Spirit lacks the typical zebra striping on the legs that marks a dun so he'd possibly be any of these. Also Rain's colour is a flaxen chestnut splash white. There is a high chance she'd be deaf too as she has white ears. But she was most likely based on a chestnut tovero.
Unlikely that his size would allow him to be a Mine pony......he's too large. He might haul stuff OUTSIDE of the mines, but even as a Mustang, he wouldn't fit in the tunnels.
True
Yep, miners used pit ponies for underground. The last known pit pony (uk?) was brought up in 1978
Mustangs especially the Kieger Mustang that Spirit is from are generally small horses. Standing around 14 hands. Still not "pony" height but much closer to them.
@@vetsrus31 still, pit ponies were under 12 hands
@@Polopony20. i didn't realize they had to be that small. Mostly because 14 hands is 4"8' in height. 12 hands is 4ft.
And a "pony" is generally any equine under 14.2 hands. Anyways, that is interesting. Thank you for the info.
The original story would’ve broken my heart as a child! I looove Spirit to this day, and learning these facts is cool, never heard of these!
Honestly this story is way better, it’s really interesting and provides more depth into the story
Black Beauty broke my heart as a child, I'm sure the original story would too lol
But I'm glad that it was changed, having a horse animated movie that I could always watch was really important to me, and the story would be way less original since we already have Black Beauty and War Horse.
As a child I would not have wanted to watch the alternate version. However now I think I might have enjoyed it a lot. This old plot might have been better for an older teen audience as well as for grownups.
I agree.
In the game "spirit: stallion of the cimarron forever free" there is actually a friend of spirit working in the mine, and we need to rescue him, so he can be free and come back to the herd~
Hold up- How was I NEVER told there was a Game? TvT
What game?
@@kaydynthefemboy3497 what?
And what?
Don’t mid me. Just here so I get the notifications for it... I need to know this game
I can see why they changed the story it doesn’t seem exactly child friendly...it’s very depressing
Yeah I watched War Horse once and it was enough to make me never want to see it again, I bet it would be the same with this version of Spirit lol
As an adult, I'd love to see "Schindler's horse" now. Though not as spirit but as another horse in the same universe. So we have spirit and another horse, basically, a family film that is sweet and child friendly, and another film for us angsty adults.
maybe the other horse could be Spirit’s father
The darker movie would have just been Black Beauty, which is a story of a horse slowly being abused and beaten down and watching his other horse friends die around him. Black Beauty ends happy (thank goodness) but it's no less compelling for it, especially since Beauty comes all to close to the fate the other horses suffer. Anyway, what would be the point? Black Beauty was written to combat systemic animal abuse and neglect in that time period. As a period piece, "Schindler's Horse" would only serve to say "Yeah, horses had it bad back then...". It would neither say anything new about horses in the past or be able to speak to modern horse abuse. Granted, I'm ripping apart a mere concept, but I rest my case. Ultimately I think it would've been a needlessly dark and derivative movie. Spirit: Stallion of the Cimarron is meaningful partly because of its hope. To drain it of that would be a lifeless shell of nihilism.
Tl;dr Black Beauty is wonderful and I'm glad there's not an American animated version of it under another title.
@The Dark Overlord That's wonderful! What a neat way to impact both the lives of people and horses.
@The Dark Overlord I've heard in some parts of the US wild horses are causing problems. A movie tackling that issue could be nice.
That's exactly what I thought as well. The first version is so similar to Black Beauty. Black Beauty is a wonderful novel and I personally like to see how horses or animals where treated back then. But I think if they went into that direction with Spirit the movie wouldn't be so popular. A lot of it's charme comes from it's message to keep fighting.
@@saphiriathebluedragonknight375 there are a few good documentaries on those! Wild Horse Wild Ride and Unbranded are my favorites (WARNING: unbranded has a horse death, its sad...)
@@limepie7181 Definitely! Spirit in the proto-version seems like a passive protagonist stuck in his situation while Spirit in the version we see is an active protagonist who doesn't stop fighting.
I'm glad they cut out the idea of spirit being broking by his enemy and the other storylines too i like the final version of the film better
But that’s what adds drama! I’d like to see him broken but reclaim himself again! These events would be way better
@@Dragonking-fd1qv It actually happens in the movie
@@Megaspinosaurusrex yeah but i want it a bit more interesting, but even without it spirit is still my favorite at best
I honestly wish someone would make "Shingler's Spirit" as I'll call that original script
I was a kid when the movie came out and the mine version just gave adult me goosebumps. Yikes o_o
"Schindler's horse might be too dark"
Me, actively tearing up in my cubicle: YOU DON'T SAY
I think the first version was a slightly more realistic depiction of the inescapable cycle of abuse that many horses face, but the final version led a lot of families to realize the importance and beauty of America’s wild horse population.
Honestly, even though I adore the original film, I would have liked to see the darker side of the film
Grace Animated I would to
This movie is so underrated. The animation is just beautiful. The music is dope and the story is so epic. I really really hope they will make a sequel to Spirit in the same quality like the first one.
It will always be apart of my childhood 😌❤️
Wow yeah that does sound like an interesting version of the story but I feel like a lot of the plot is based on spirit being an untamable horse so for me it would have been really sad if he’d allowed other people to ride him besides little creek
To be honest, Spirit was heart wrenching as it is, and I don’t think I would have been able to sit through the original, so I’m glad they changed it.
Also, in the last scene, I can Imagine the boy walking to his dad and telling him about Sprit and the dad saying "Now that's Spirit son, that's a Mustang you can't tame." or something!
That’s kinda like spirit the Netflix version. But spirited got tamed 0.0
Wow. These deleted scenes nearly changed my childhood. Spirit: Stallion of the Cimarron is my favorite DreamWorks movie, and also one of my favorite movies since I was a kid. I am so glad the movie didn't turn out the way it was originally planned.
Fr. I would’ve been mentally scarred by the original story.
There is actually an old children's book about a wild pony from the Faroe islands that is captured and sold off to England to work in a coal mine. It's beautifully illustrated but incredibly bleak and sad. The concept of Spirit ending up in a mine eerily reminds me of this. That book had quite a huge effect on me as a kid...but I'm glad the final Spirit film is a god deal lighter.
What's the name of the book?? It sounds really sad, but I would love to read it!
@@dominicstarr3065 It's by Ólavur Michelsen and Erik Hjorth Nielsen (the illustrator). It's Danish in the original, I only know it in German - I don't know if it was ever translated into English. The German title is "Die Pferde vom Skoratal", the Danish original is Færøhesten. It's beautiful, but incredibly sad.
I remember following the production of this film via email chains and forums prior to its release. Apparently the film was going to be a lot darker: Rain was going to die in an early cut. Spirit was going to witness some buffalo being hunted from the train when he was being transported in an early draft. And horses during the scene where they were pulling the train were going to be dragged away from exhaustion (which would be what gave Spirit himself the idea). They cut all of that stuff out, obviously.
While the mine or tamed storylines might have been interesting, they definitely wouldn’t have been as popular with general audiences than what we got, which is probably why they were fully dropped.
I would still like to see that if it were to be made
8:06
No one:
My brain: ah yes, Dutch van Der Linde
This was his plan all along!
Same XD
But seriously!
For the final storyboard, I think its the epilogue.
My theory:
Spirit and Rain caught wind/sound of the wagon train. Went to investigate.
The man IS the colonel, but he didnt re-enlist, had a kid, and that is his son.
"Buckskin horses are bad omens. My knee is acting up just thinking about it."
Spirit: Stallion of the Cimmaron was my favorite movie. He’s so free and pretty, and I love him so much.
Edit: if I saw the original version, I probably would’ve cried. He deserved to be a free horse.
Me too! That movie was my childhood and i always watched it Like ALOT.
I am glad they decided to make the final movie the way they did. Spirit and Balto both became a big part of my identity as a kid. The idea of running free really resonated with me.
To be honest I’m glad they didn’t do the bad version because it’s been done so many times, it would’ve just been considered another copy of Black beauty or warhorse. The end version of spirit stallion of the Cimarron was an absolute masterpiece and perfect just the way it is.
It’s possible the last scene was a warning of the future, as they were going back to their wild homeland they see signs that settlers are beginning to arrive. Although I think I prefer the version of the Colonel simply accepting spirits freedom.
Love learning extra facts about this movie!
Random thought, but going off the Colonel succeeding in breaking Spirit concept... Imagine if you will, later on, the Colonel can actually see how broken and depressed his new mount is and actually starts being softer towards him. In turn, Spirit's ... well, *spirits* are lifted, even toying with his rider (much like he did with Little Creek at times) and the two even forming that same type of bond. Some action-y stuff will happen, and nearing the end of the film, the Colonel makes the decision to ultimately set Spirit free.
Kinda gives off Hidalgo vibes at the end, but like the idea of the 'bad guy' going soft towards his depressed horse... Or something like that.
... If anyone knows of a fanfic like this, link me, please! :D
I prefer the story we've got, being a sensitive person myself, I would not have watch the darker version (even if it is indeed an original story)
Same! Even now as an adult I still wouldn't watch the darker version either.
I think the darker "original" version/idea(s) of this movie would've been really neat to see.
I associate Spirit as an inspiring story with the fantasy of being free and wild. Making me wish to be a horse to run around on the hills too. The movie we got fullfills every horse loving heart because it shows the best and maagestic nature of horses. I am so glad that Spirit turned out like it did now.
I think if they ever remake it, the darker version would be great, but I'm so glad we got what we got originally - it's an absolute classic and I would not change it at all ❤️
Wow. I never knew Spirit: Stallion of the Cimarron turned out so dark. While I would have liked to see the dark version of this film, I'm glad we got to see the story we know and love.
I love the original movie how it is ! The parts that weren't included seem to be too much like black beauty. As much as I love black beauty, I think spirit stallion of the Cimarron is better and a lot different compared to other horse movies. It's got that movie quality that you can just watch over and over again, and you'll always feel just as excited as the first time you watched it . Its beautifully thought through, and I love that just like black beauty that it teaches kids to be kind and respectful to wild animals and domestic animals alike . I love spirit riding free aswell as its just a fun little cartoon horse series. For those who absolutely adore horses who wouldn't like them ? The only thing that bugs me with spirit riding free is that all the English riders saddles are on back to front and they put them on the horses in separate parts . For an English rider like myself that is very frustrating, just because it's an American series doesn't mean that they need to just pay attention to detail on the American saddles only . But for those like me , this is how many people love both spirit stallion of the Cimarron and spirit riding free .👇
I agree, I didn't notice that detail about the saddles though. Interesting.
I personally don’t like Riding Free because it totally ruins the concept of the original movie: “spirit is a wild mustang that can never be broken.”
Spirit only let Little Creek ride him because he had the proven himself to be trustworthy and respectful of Spirit’s refusal to become an owned horse. The little girl from Riding Free is a “city girl” (which is a common theme in the cheesiest of horse movies) who moves to a country town and bonds with the wildest horse there that “no one else can tame.” It frustrates me because the writers of the show are obviously just trying to appeal to the young girls that may be watching the show instead of actually staying true to Spirit’s story and moral.
I really just ranted but I have a lot of feelings about the show.
@@personofinterest4791 yes I see what u mean, i do agree with u. All of what u said is true . But for me i like anything with a horse in it , whether realistic or not. But ya , that is completely my opinion and we're all different. :)
@@melrayner5207 yeah I can see your point. I feel like there’s not many horse shows out there so I understand why you still enjoy it
@@melrayner5207 I agree, I love the original movie myself and I simply don’t mind the series, it’s only the 2021 knock off movie bothers me tho.
As a child I loved the original but now that I'm older I would love to see what the darker movie would be like.
Kadara even tho I’m young I would love to see the darker side even tho it was my younger selfs favorite movie
hmm it would have been interesting to see the "darker" version, but as a liitle kid i think i wouldnt like it but yeah.
For the last shown panel i think it was likely replaced by the indian tribe home which is why rain doesn't have the feathers in her mane. Instead of the little toddler hugging spirits face it was the older boy who maybe petted his nose or something and then left to go back to the other people. The confused looks, the corrals, the kid, and overall gentle vibe from the drawings are similar to the final scene that is in the movie
And this Children, is where Fanfiction comes into play
So glad that none of these scenes made it into the final film. Way too depressing. Though the rival stallion and wagon train concepts would’ve been interesting. Spirit’s relationship with the rival may have been similar to Spirit Jr’s in Riding Free, always having to put the stallion in his place for trying to lead the herd in Spirit’s place. The wagon scene could be an earlier part where Spirit and Rain were mates to begin with and she was never tamed by humans. This is Spirit’s first meeting with humans, but he ends up captured by the two people about to leave. Worried for her mate, Rain follows them to try to rescue him, eventually reuniting and returning home together. Along the way Spirit befriends the young boy along with Little Creek, experiencing kindness and cruelty on both sides.
I was a kid when this came out and it’s one of my favourite movies ever since. If the original story would’ve been dark and painful, I don’t think I would’ve liked it as much. The story that came out on screen was the perfect balance of playfulness and hardships. And the ending was like the cherry on top. It still make my eyes watery.
I'm glad we got the movie we did.
Would have loved seeing the dark, heartwrenching version. It would make so much people conscious about horses' suffering.
I'm glad I had the "happier" version growing up. It was my all time favourite movie to the point that even my family called me Spirit as a nickname. I would love to see the grim version of this movie though. Adult me would love the dark version, little me, not so much.
This version would be too much like Black Beauty
Thanks for this! Super interesting; had no idea about these.
This was actually VERY INTERESTING!!! wow i have always wanted to know MORE about Spirit!! :D Great!! c:
Anyone else in love with the concept art? Honestly some of my favorites I’ve ever seen. It looks like a Frederic Remington painting. Especially the colonel riding spirit. Looks like it was made in the civil war era or shortly afterwards, it’s great.
Spirit is my favourite movie of all time, I've loved it since I was 5 or 6 years old, and his determination always inspired me. Its a pick me up movie for me now, and I'm so glad they went with the story that they did 💜
Im so glad your video exists, i had a great time.
Personally i think the "original" schindler story would have been great and could be a pretty nice second movie.
I am glad that they did away with those ideas!! I love the Spirit film as it is now and it will be forever my favorite film.
The mine version reminds me of a story I heard when visiting Cornwall, an area known for mining in England. It was told to me by a tour guide. In the 1800s they had pit ponies, small ponies used to pull the carts. Once they were down there, they didn't ever come back up and that they had a lot shorter lifespans due to the air. Once a mine began to slowly flood and a miner went down into the mine to shoot the ponies so they didn't suffer. Men also died in the event. The tour guide told us how when he told this story, people cried for the ponies but he was incredulous as he believed people should only cry for the men who died and at least the ponies died quickly. I was a kid at the time and the death of the ponies I guess made more impact on me than the death of the miners.
I am glad then that it wasn't in the film that ended up being. I think it would have been too dark and not been a movie I remember fondly. An interesting idea, tho.
Alot of these concepts are referred to in the filmmakers commentary on the DVD/Blu Ray
I love this video.
Spirit was the first movie I ever saw as a child in theatre, and it’s been incredibly important to my for my entire life because of it.
I think I would definitely be interested in seeing the darker version, though admittedly as a kid I am sure I wouldn’t have liked it. I think I could definitely appreciate it now though, and it’s a shame that it won’t ever see the light of day because it could have been a great, albeit dark, movie.
Thanks for making this! I thought I knew everything about the movie, but I didn’t know any of this!
this is amazing :D
thanks to Spirit, I love horses now. :)
love your videos 💜
Thank you so much!
In my opinion the man hearing the kid was going to capture the 2 horses, especially Spirit
I think that this would be much better. But I love both versions of the movie. But I don't like the wiping so I am glad that scene was cut out.
I love the attention to detail, even in the basic concept art. In the pictures for when Spirit was tamed by the colonel, he is depicted specifically tacked with a McClellan saddle. This is a relatively unknown saddle type to the general population but would have been historically accurate for the time, location, and use. Most people would have used a western saddle for this simply because it is more well known.
The mine story reminds me of Pit Pony. It would have been sad and depressing just like that movie and I probably wouldn't have liked it! That's so crazy
Is that the movie where the horse dies at the end but her baby survives?
'Cause I remember that movie from when a teacher showed it to us in elementary but I couldn't for the life of me remember the name of the movie!
Thank you for doing this video. It's refreshing to see other long time fans of this fandom like myself.
And I have an idea! There is still a chance the original storyline could still be used.
But with a differenw horse. And they could ve Spirit's own foal/s.
The reason for this is due to how hard it would be to accept a new protag character in the same universe of Spirit. Because he already set a his mark on the audience so to speak. And in order to draw the light away from Spirit would be for the other horse(his kid/s) to surpass more different/severe problems. And we basically have *that* plot on a silver platter. If you ask me that would have been a great sequel.
I'd love to see the darker version recreated today, since I'm older. This was a huge part in my childhood, and the spark for my love for horses. I would 1000% cry my eyes out but I think the history behind how cruel people were to animals and even each other would be eye opening, in my opinion.
This is pretty awesome, I was never a fan of spirit but it was a pretty good movie. I heard that there is new test footage that was leaked along with the lost footage of shrek. Maybe a new video on it soon? Great job on this btw
I would have loved the more darker scenes, dont mind crying my heart out. 😂
I love the fact that this movie is still being made videos of-
Spirit was one of my favorite movies, still is. It holds a special place in my heart as a young girl, curling up into a ball on the floor watching the VHS version at my Nana’s house. I’m glad to see this.
Ok so at 3:48 in the video I’m already SO happy they didn’t do that sad version. I absolutely hate stories like that. I wouldn’t have been able to watch it more than once and I know I would have cried. I almost teared up from the CONCEPT ART. I love the movie that they have now and I myself have seen it too many times to count
I love how it ended up being played out. The Native American aspect is what made me love this movie. But with today's cancel culture, this will probably be cancelled for misrepresented natives.
I love how Spirit ended up being, but this 'schinders horse' concept sounds good too... although I would not of been allowed to watch something like that in 2002!
That last storyboard concept is what would have been the scene where Spirit comes across the Native American corral with Raine, and is confused/curious of the concept of horses being in a small circle arena. Raine tricks and lures Spirit into the corral for Little Creek. This is where Little Creek tried putting the blanket on Spirit's back to ride him, continuously failing, getting laughed at by his friend, and Spirit tells off his friend for laughing at his efforts.
Oh. My. God. Spirit: Stallion of the Cinnamon is one of my favorite film, in fact, when I was younger I would watch it every time my best friend and I had I play-date or sleepover.
I love the version we have and I wouldnt change it but I would like to see what would have happened in the darker version, very interesting.
Thank heavens these were cut out.
I'm just glad Little Creek was Spirit's human helper in the final film rather than a settler, it fits with the overall theme better.
I hope that scene at the end wasn't meant to be Spirit and Rain returning only to see his herd having been captured and tamed by humans already... jeez wouldn't that be a bleak ending.
Thank you so much for making and sharing this vid btw. I can't believe I've loved this movie for 18 years and never knew about these deleted scenes. Mind blown.
God my dad already complained that movie was liberal propaganda, if it had been anything like its original concept, he would have had an aneurism.
What? No offense, but your Father sounds bonkers.
Its a story about a horse gaining and re-gaining his freedom, no politics were ever involved in the film. Its a simple and great story, nothing more, nothing less.
@@kayelynnphelps8676 I gotta desagree with you, there is political elements in the movie, they're just very subtle. Spirit strugle to set itself free and later protect his homeland from being destroyed, is a paralel with the story of little creek and how he and his tribe struggle to protect themselves from the colonizers. In fact the whole movie can be read as a metaphor for native american strugles to remain free in the face of colonazation. But once again, is very subtle.
@@melhoneybee6171+ Alright, but its not 'liberal propaganda' its practically history.
@@kayelynnphelps8676 Yeah that I agree, no idea where that guy took that from
Interesting! Thank goodness the movie we love *was* what the creators decided to make in the end though. 💖 My favourite film since I was 5. :)
The original concept brings me plague dogs vibe
I certainly love the idea of it. But the og Spirit sure is an amazing film. I fell in love with it at 3 years old and it's been my favorite movie ever since. I would love to see this darker film, but I'm glad they made Spirit how they did.
I think for that last storyboard at 9:30 it's a replacement scene for the very beginning when Spirit first sees humans and gets curious or wants to help free the horses he sees are tied up. As for Rain, not sure if she's just a recycled design (from a herd member/mother to being his love interest) or if she had been planned to always be there? Idk.
I am very glad they changed it. The original storyline is interesting, but it goes wildly against WHY this movie is so iconic. The whole idea is that Spirit is a horse, that can never be broken and I'm glad they kept that, while still leaving some deeply emotional and hard scenes in the film.
I think that these scenes do sound great, but other movies do them better. War Horse would do many of these scenes much better in 2014. I think that they made the right choice to make the movie they did! Also, maybe that storyboard was actually concepts of the second film? They had a story set up with the designs, so maybe it was meant to be in the beginning of this movie.
I agree! And I hadn't even thought of that but I could definitely see the last storyboard being for the second movie!
I remember you from the comment section of that Aletori video your obviously a big Spirit fan. How do you know there was a story set up for a second film?
@@aidantimms7724 Lol my entire channel is basically a Spirit fangroup! Based on the unused designs from the Breyer sets of Spirit, Rain, and the Unnamed Foal, as well as words from the directors themselves!
Are you upset that footage of Spirit IRL went uncredited
@@aidantimms7724 I ended up emailing them and they apologized and made sure it was credited! Sucks that I didn't get the credit in video or anything, but it's lost better than nothing so I don't mind!
a live action or semi-live action remake of Spirit with this 'bad' alternate story that is aimed towards more of an adult audience would be really interested. id pay top dollar to see that film
Also I felt that it implied that his girlfriend was pregnant after the fall because of her bigger belly and how Spirit kept looking at it.
She was shot in the belly, I think that’s why he was looking at it :)
i think if the darker version had came out a lot of equestrians, including myself, wouldn’t have gotten into the sport we love
Wow I never new this you are amasing
Wow! That was soooo interesting!
Actually, I'm glad they changed the original story. As a child, I would have been traumatized by this story :')
Fun fact: I'm French and I'm surprised to learn that some names are not simply translated. In French, Little Creek is named Petit Nuage wich means Little Clouds and Rain is called Rivière which means River
Anyway! Good job for all the researches!
First time I ever watched Spirit was helping my friend keep her three dogs calm while a tornado was screaming over our heads.
It was only an F2, but we’re mountain kids! That was the first tornado I’d experienced, and we were both freaking out!
honestly that dark stuff would make an amazing movie id love to see but for another movie cuz this movie is indeed more original and it probably wouldn't have such a positive impact as it does
I'd love to see a much darker version of the story, but I love how it came out in the end. It's one of my favorite movies.
In all truth, I think someone should tackle the original “Schindler’s Horse” storyline. It would doubtlessly provide awareness to horse abuse throughout the years that exists today. If someone were to create that story in the same style as the movie Plague Dogs, my goodness, would that be a fantastic film.
as I saw spirit the first time as a child, I cried my eyes out cuz of the wagon scene, stopped watching and never wanted to see this movie again... after some years, when I was 11 I thought I give it another try and absolutely fell in love with the movie... there was a time where I watched the movie everyday! sometimes twice in a row... when I was 12 we moved away from my "homeland" and I had to leave my grandparents behind, what really really hurt. so this movie helped me through a big depression and a worse time, since spirit was the best example that there can be light at the end of the tunnel again ❤ I'm super glad that the movie turned out like that and didn't become even darker. Imagine the movie would've had the sad end where Spirit dies in the mine, without ever seeing light again... I think that would've shuttered a lot of kids
the original concept first mentioned sounds like it would really suit an older animation style like the secret of nimh- the dark, muddy, dreary blurry cell animation stuff yk