Imo... Its more valuable if I make Goblet as my off piece tbh... 4 elixir is too much... But Im not that annoyed with the cost itself, I can understand that can choose 1 Main stat and 2 Sub-stat is too good to be true... But What I really want Hoyo to do is not reduce the cost, but give us more access to get more Sanctifying elixir... So far there is 3 way you can do to get those elixir... 1. Battlepass 2. Exploration (openworld, and "Tree" rewards) 3. Dissolving Bad Artefact And to be honest, 1 and 2 is okay... But 3 is kinda problematic. 42 days to create 1 Elixir is too long and not enough, 20 day is okay, and 14 day is the Best imo... And not only that... I hope that they give us the elixir from : 4. Endgame contents (Spiral Abyss, Imaginarium Theatre, Teapot, and TCG), and... 5. Limited Events...
You can get three from exploring, specifically you get 1 from each tribes secret room which you can only access by getting enough obsidion fragments from precious chests
The thing we spend the pyro sigils also give one every ten levels but me personally I think they should give them out like hsr gives them out during events if you complete everything during said event
Hoyo think in business its quite clear Even though their game is loved yet they act like its going to die any moment which in fact became true because of their bad manners They are godlike at bullying ignoring manipulating players At this point i realised the game is designed for new players every update because they benifit alot and everything looks healthy for them while we old hags suffer so much We are talking about players comfort, interest, better material loots etc Which we see once in a new moon if we are lucky Because of the ego and their bad sense or something The game has suffered alot from the inside From the outside it looks like it's the best game content out there u can find Its very clear thats how hoyo roll and people think they gonna change for any better when their profit still rose up Dawai cried and all we got is standard 5star from 2 years ago Their whole personality is staying minimum and keeping us on check for Little airdrops when we had enough
1. choose best/universal artifact set. a lot of char can use 2. best main/sub stat for that set. 3. sands (2 elixir only) just off piece gob/circlet. 4. check what you already own/don't have 5. assess the remaining 2 sub stat RNG. example. deepwood memories = EM/ER sands. emblem = ER sands. noblesse = ER sands. Venerer = EM/ER sands. blizzard = atk. paradise lost = EM sands . tenacity = HP sands . husk = def sands.
@@TheGenshinIdiot That's why you make the Goblet your off-piece. Most people, 99% of the time, have an Elemental DMG Bonus goblet with Crit substats from a random trash/incompatible set. It's a waste of Elixir to craft a Goblet especially when it's not even guaranteed to roll into the substats when you level it. You can get a perfect sands on-set for 2 artifact sets instead of 1 using the same amount of Elixir as making 1 Goblet. Also Sands are way more universal, because most characters are gonna want something like ATK% but not all characters are the same element (for example making a Sands for Marechausse/Golden Troupe/Unfinished Reverie is going to allow several characters to use the artifact set while switching between different Elemental DMG Goblets off-set). Also getting a perfect Energy Recharge Sands on Emblem is great for so many characters. Circlet is relatively easy to get on-set as there's not a lot of options for Circlet main stat compared to Goblet and you don't need a double Crit substat.
@@hallyuniverse What im saying is that a double crit sands is easier to farm 100% of the time. You should farm the set you're going for and get the goblet with elixir since the chance that its not going to be a piece you already have a good version of is higher. What is the point of using your elixir on something that you may already have a good enough version to use on instead of getting something that will tremendously help you out. Ill put it like this You farm and get 70% Value sands from farming 30% Value goblet from farming Overall you will be better off to try and improve the goblet of the set since it gives a bigger increase.
The best solution is. Farm the domain,get your flower and feather,than get one good piece of the remaining one on wich you are sure you are fine with and than use your elixir on the cheapest thing left. If you use it before you just risk getting a good piece of the same type.
I not planning on using any for a long time. I like the QoL changes that they've been introducing. We just need better things for WL9. Increased leyline drop rates, domain drops increased too trounce included. That's all I need.
Ikr the updates in qol are partially adequete, it was all Sparky but wl 9 isn't that great.... And this new artifact thing is once a 4 patch thingie for most people, so idk wtf am i supposed to even say about this
Circlets get a good value on someone like neuvillette, who runs marechaussee and gets a ton of crit rate already, so you wouldn't want all rolls on it into crit rate, meanwhile hp% is almost as good as crit rolls on him so that makes both stats valuable and then i feel circlet is good to craft, but sands value in those cases like neuvillette drops because you would want as many rolls in crit dmg and not many in crit rate on sands, so even tho u can pick both crits, you need a lot of luck for it to actually roll well.. Great video dude! :D
Long story short: all come to "maybe" you getting a good piece farming 🤣 People better use it for whatever they need, in my case I've been farming for clorinde and arlecchino for 4+ months and I don't have a double crit flower or feather yet so at the end is just bad luck that can destroy your 4 months wait for 4 elixirs to get a piece with double crit that end up leveling up all def% 🤷🏻
to me this is best spent on sands or goblet - which ever you have the worse off-piece for. for instance, my noelle uses an off-piece goblet, but it has fucking 22.4 crit rate in it, WITH crit damage, def% and ER. it's perfect. no matter what i craft with this, it will NEVER be better than that off-piece goblet. so if i wanted to improve her further, my best bet would be her sands, which while kinda godly, is my worst piece for her.
to me it goes like this if im building for 1 character only i pick goblet since an on set piece elem goblet is really hard to come by but if i want an overall account upgrade i pick the circlet as you said a circlet is easy to offset piece that means a hyper perfected circlet of a crit rate or crit damage is universal and anyone can use it
if you look at it 1 crit sub stat arti is better on rng since on 2 crit sub your now rolling 2 rng dice since you want it to roll in to crit and crit damage in balance or the same scenario as 1 crit sub roll in to 1 while on the circlet you only need to not roll on the 4th unwanted sub since you can guarantee a crit or crit dmg on main and sub and 3rd can be ER which is also a universal stat
@@spheroboom7299 No Im thinking of it being a 50% chance (assuming its not rigged) for it to roll into a good stat, im not really concerned about which one get more or if they get even
talking about surface level understanding goblet doesn't have to be on set mate, just craft sands onset if you have a shitty offset goblet then sure go and try your luck with an onset goblet
@@dragondevil69 sure but from my playing you’re more likely to farm a good circlet than a good goblet. Dendro has been out for ages and I still don’t have a good goblet for it. It’s clear this system can’t just make you an entire set really so you’re going to have to farm for a bit still.
@@TheGenshinIdiot why are you shoving a circlet to the mix? that's the surface level of understanding and that's your situation for the dendro goblet which is like i've written if you don't have a good goblet offset then try for the onset goblet using this system
@@TheGenshinIdiot Since circlet are easier to farm you can make a good build by crafting a very good sand, farm a circlet and then use an off set goblet. Instead of using it for an on set goblet wich costs 4 and for all you know could still be end up useless if it doesnt roll well.
@@gianlucabrambilla9665 Thats assumming you dont get a good sands at all from just farming, upgrading to a goblet that can be better than your nonexistent version can help a lot.
Its better than nothing but still not good. They have to add elixir as a reward from event or cut the cost of crafting. Its kinda bullshit that it takes 160days to get goblet that will roll flat def...
Goblets are the hardest one to get on-piece with ideal substats so I agree that jt should be the priority and I already thought of or planned this when this was leaked.
You get one at the level 10 rewards of the sigil offering system by turning in pyro sigils to the place inside the stadium. I don’t think you literally find them out in the wild, unless there’s another one I’m not aware of.
There are 4 sanctifying elixir in open world. 3of them can be obtained after you collect the 3 Obsidian rings and the other is on this thing that level up with the pyro coins.
I’m kinda disappointed that I went out of my way to farm 5 elixers and later learnt that you can only create one piece per set. Mualani won’t be getting built anytime soon 😔
Well you shouldnt be using them on flowers and feathers so that only leaves you with the ability to use 5 if you craft circlet and sands which I advise against
I really hate that time limit. If I were to fix it, I'd rather remove that but increase the grind. For now people can outsmart the system by simply destroying multiple lv4 5 star artifacts instead of putting 5 lv20s. Or if they really want to limit it, at least give us ability to craft 2 predertermined main stat artifact just like in HSR. Tbh only giving us ability to craft 1/4 of it per update and then the rest of them from BP and offering reward is a joke. Not all updates have new regions with additional offering level, so how are we going to get the elixir ? It seems that some updates wont even let you craft the predetermined stat artifact at all
I can only think of one place to find them in open world. Its those tribes' secret rooms, I happened to find the one in the first tribe and there was something REALLY shiny sitting on the pedestal it kinda looked like that one time in liyue when there was a five star artifact in those ruins but it could be a sanctifying elixir.
@@TheGenshinIdiot You can also get 3 of them, one from each faction, by collecting 3 obsidian fragments randomly from chests in their respective regions, crafting them together than then opening the Tribal Trove in each area. I've only managed to get 2 of the obsidian fragments so far though, one Yellow and one Azure.
Holy shit mate. It sounds so obvious after you said it. I was gonna FUCK up majorly. It’s why I suck at this easy as fuck game. Everyone says it’s easy and here I am still coping hard with my Lisa trying something
That volcano is another part of natlan,rough guess it probably dark side of natlan,u know that they preparing thear warriors against spiral abyss,so that is my guess,cant wait to see that part of natlan where actually magma flow everywhere. And about sanctifying elixir u can get from giving the pyro sigil to that circle eye thing in battle arena
I dont how is called i forgot but i give the pyro sigil there and got one. Plus u know what is worst, men dont have words for this i open one of hiden chambers, and got just 1 SE, and i got five of two different kind artefakt, fuck me its in Children of echoes region of hidden chamber if u ask
you can find the sanctifying elixir in the open world of natlan but idk where some are there's a few barriers around the three tribes but their blocked by different obsidian coloured rings
@@TheGenshinIdiot i found a green obsidian fragment but i've been looking for a guide too find them Natlan being new and all it's hard to find a location and some appear in Lux chests and precious ones... it's going to be impossible without the compass
@@TheGenshinIdiot you combine 3 of those rings go to a barrior and you get 1 elixir and 10 random artefacts from natlan I judt opened every legendary cgest and boom I have 4 now tomorrow I get another cause one chest needs a day to appear
To me this is wrong, because it is missing at least one important fact: because of it's easier to get the rest (goblet is harder) and it costs less, you can still pick those artifacts and leave the goblet as off piece. Maybe you still get a decent circlet and sands after weeks/months, but not so good feather and flower. It can happen, and I have many cases like this. Goblets are mostly the off piece on the average build. if that's true, and rolling is not guaranteed, picking cheaper artifacts can still be a decent choice. (and if it rolls into shit, you spent 1 stuff instead of 4)
I get what youre saying but the thing is you should be farming anyways while taking advantage of this system. Lets say you get at 60% value sands while farming Its highly unlikely you get a goblet which can compete with anything, this is why you said "Goblets are mostly the off piece on the average build." Basically upgrading a 0% goblet is better than upgrading a 60% sands I wouldnt say the circlet is worth it as you lost a lot of value not being able to chose a crit stats as both subs which is why I say it should from now on be the off piece. Also never use it for flowers and feathers, they are actually way to easy to farm, I get it if your build is like perfect in every other way but honestly its just a waist unless youre in the 0.1% senario.
40 days for just a single i can proly get the piece i want by farming for 40 days hoyo just tricked us proly going to put this elixir in the shop so that people spend more money on their game
The new system is a step in the right direction but it's implementation is f#*ked. 40 days? Really? Not to mention the cost of creating one is out of line. It should be infinitely creatable or at most, weekly capped and require 10 - 15 lvl4 artifacts per elixir max. It's wouldn't be broken in the least, we have all felt the pain of double crit stat artifacts rolling all they way in flat def, hp or atk without a single crit roll. All this does is give you a better chance at a decent artifact, not a guarantee. IMO, the way it is, they shouldn't have bothered, it's frankly an insult.
Yeah I found that a little too much expensive too, I mean I know it's something really powerful, but it has a lot of limits, for example they could have done that the feather and the flower cost 2, but you can select 3 substats (cause the main it's always locked), or maybe they could have reduced the costs of something else like the goblet that's expensive as a fkn lunge, or at least, I could have been ok with the fact that it's so expensive if they made something like a little enhanced probability to roll the substats that you had chosen, for example you made the goblet with dmg bonus as main and as sub rate and damage, it costs 4 pcs, but at least I'm a bit sure to roll one of the substats that I chose, for example maybe instead of 25% for every substat, 30% for the 2 that I chose and 20% for the others, I think it could have been reasonable for the cost, a little bit more fair, I don't even ask all of them, but just something that can make me say: ok it's expensive but I'm sure it'll be worth it
@@gremmi3 then do some farming, it really isn’t that hard to get a good one and it will be way better if you just use it for another set for another character
@@ZeppeliGamingYou can put your supports on Favonius for that. Having multiple characters of the same element also reduces the energy needs significantly. We also have many characters now who don't really care about using bursts or have low energy cost. All in all it's a really dumb take to purposefully go for ER sub stats rather than other offensive stats on your dps
WE CANT EVEN USE IT LOL. Cost is 4 and we got 1 max :P (and no i refuse to pay for battlepass) But if we do get extra ones from events i realy recomend you craft new artifact set if you are planing to go for Xilonen and go for Geo goblet with crit rate and crit damage (and if you get defense, its a bonus for her anyway). Scroll of the Hero of Cinder City is probaly best bet as Obsidian Codex is more for pure dps characters. So HP/ATK/DEF/GEO DAMAGE/CRIT RATE in that order. If you by a chance get her weapon Peak Patrol Song, you will still need crit as bonus is only 3.2% max crit rate lol. But you can use 4 star Flute of Ezpitzal i would try to get R5 at least if you have saved up billets.
@@TheGenshinIdiot I legit think that it's a hoyolab interaction farming from hoyo. I would imagine having a better system will make players stop complaining hence reducing their interaction in hoyolab.
I thought it would cost a full set of artifacts to get one artifact with the stats you want but this is way worse and so expensive Also lost my 55/45 to diluc of all people ;-;
@@TheGenshinIdiotidk it would seem fair for one month seeing that it can still avoid rolling into the stats u want unless it's a main stat. Also have you run into a boss called " He never dies" in Natlan?😂
So I have a little dillemma so im here to get opinions. Im trying to get a good 4 piece for my Arlechino. I have an off piece sands and a 14cv goblet. I was thinking it would be better to get the sands from this as it would cost half the elixir and I could use an off piece goblet (i have a few). Thoughts?
Depends how good your goblet off piece is and if youre going to keep farming for Arle, if you dont want to touch the domain again It wouldnt be a bad choice but also not a good choice as one week in the domain and you can probably get a somewhat decent sands.
@@TheGenshinIdiot my off piece sands would have about 25-30 cv. The thing about the on piece sands is that I've been farming this domain pretty much every day since Arlechinos release and I haven't gotten a single usable sands😭 I have rotten luck with sands anyways and I don't think it's resin efficient to be farming that domain when the new Natlan domain is out
What is the best combination of artifacts to sacrifice for getting the elixir? Lvl 4 artifacts give 4/100, whereas lvl 20 artifacts give 30/100. Is it still better to use many lvl 4s to save on artifact experience?
@@TheGenshinIdiot It will at some point. A lvl 8 only gives 8 points but costs more than two lvl 4s, though those do require two 5-stars. I don't know the full math, but there must be some optimal configuration to it.
It will take 5 months to get a circlet from the artifact crafting system, you will most surely get one circlet before time enough passes for you to get it
Should I try to go for on piece goblet or circlet? Im trying to grind my akasha rank on hu tao. My goblet is an off piece with 7% cr, 27% cdmg, em, and hp% Or should I go for circlet? Its harder to get good rolls because only 1 crit substat but it would probably give the most upgrade if its good since my best circlet rn is 12% cdmg.
That goblet seems pretty great, I would say that circlet is your best choice unless you want to try and see if you can find a off set circlet thats better than you current goblet.
trying to get goblet will be a waste of resources because it's have 8 valuable rolls, get circlet, it's only have 2 crit rolls whose are very important for a main damage dealer
@@zerosanity3057 I mean this isn’t really a scam though since all you gotta do is sac off the level 4 artifacts you only raised to see what the 4th substat would be
I have all good artifact for arlecchino except for flower and circlet which one should i use it on cuz i think if i picked circlet my luckyass would roll all into everything but cd%
@@okuyasunijimuraloveitalian8556 yeah honestly I would say neither, you can easily just do some more runs in the domain. I get that you’ve been unlucky so far but statistically you should get a good flower soon.
@TheGenshinIdiot bcuz the only way to level artifacts is to farm domains and the rewards suck u can hardly get 1 level up on a artifact with those drops
Hope they have QoL on that crafting shit Mine rolled all in defense This link really resonated with me on the complaints on this "artifact synthesizer" ua-cam.com/video/3BI0RvgLv6o/v-deo.htmlsi=FXXlDQvabphMm21x
This new sactifying elixir is bullshit Dont buy into this guy, you are just wasting your artefacts its not even guaranteed plus who knows how long we have to wait to get our peice I was so wrong having a little hope and thought that mihoyos will be bringing some lively changes to genshin and listened to their community. But its all another bullshit dawei cries my ass.
Bold of you to assume I have any sanctifying elixir to use before watching this...
I have 1 and thats enough to make a mistake
@@TheGenshinIdiot lol
@@TheGenshinIdiot Literally my parents to my birth😊
How do you even get it lol
@@ashen3405for sacrificing 100 levels of artefacts
I watched this before using a sanctifying elixir
Same definitely
congratulations dude
Good Job 👍
I have 3 elixirs better save for a very hard character to build
@@Art.f.d wait what how ? every one only has 1
Imo... Its more valuable if I make Goblet as my off piece tbh... 4 elixir is too much...
But Im not that annoyed with the cost itself, I can understand that can choose 1 Main stat and 2 Sub-stat is too good to be true...
But What I really want Hoyo to do is not reduce the cost, but give us more access to get more Sanctifying elixir...
So far there is 3 way you can do to get those elixir...
1. Battlepass
2. Exploration (openworld, and "Tree" rewards)
3. Dissolving Bad Artefact
And to be honest, 1 and 2 is okay...
But 3 is kinda problematic. 42 days to create 1 Elixir is too long and not enough, 20 day is okay, and 14 day is the Best imo...
And not only that... I hope that they give us the elixir from :
4. Endgame contents (Spiral Abyss, Imaginarium Theatre, Teapot, and TCG), and...
5. Limited Events...
@@Wiradika1414 yeah I have not found a single elixir from exploring yet so I don’t know if you can
@@TheGenshinIdiotthere are 3 from exploration
@@TheGenshinIdiotThere are three you can get from the Obsidian Keys in each tribe. Then I’ve gotten one by offering pyro sigils to the thing.
@@Shane_A_M How do you get the Obsidian keys? The rings.
@@TheGenshinIdiot
The natlan thing where you offer Pyro coins should give you 1 every 10 levels.
Wich is 5 in total
GUYS COMPLAIN IN SURVEY FOR MORE ELIXIR PER CYCLE
Yeah....
You can get three from exploring, specifically you get 1 from each tribes secret room which you can only access by getting enough obsidion fragments from precious chests
Yeah seems to be legit, my concern is when we dont add new tribes to natlan how are they going to do it
The thing we spend the pyro sigils also give one every ten levels but me personally I think they should give them out like hsr gives them out during events if you complete everything during said event
Hoyo think in business its quite clear
Even though their game is loved yet they act like its going to die any moment which in fact became true because of their bad manners
They are godlike at bullying ignoring manipulating players
At this point i realised the game is designed for new players every update because they benifit alot and everything looks healthy for them while we old hags suffer so much
We are talking about players comfort, interest, better material loots etc
Which we see once in a new moon if we are lucky
Because of the ego and their bad sense or something
The game has suffered alot from the inside
From the outside it looks like it's the best game content out there u can find
Its very clear thats how hoyo roll and people think they gonna change for any better when their profit still rose up
Dawai cried and all we got is standard 5star from 2 years ago
Their whole personality is staying minimum and keeping us on check for Little airdrops when we had enough
lol
What is bro yapping about ? 😂
1. choose best/universal artifact set. a lot of char can use 2. best main/sub stat for that set. 3. sands (2 elixir only) just off piece gob/circlet. 4. check what you already own/don't have 5. assess the remaining 2 sub stat RNG.
example.
deepwood memories = EM/ER sands. emblem = ER sands. noblesse = ER sands. Venerer = EM/ER sands. blizzard = atk. paradise lost = EM sands . tenacity = HP sands . husk = def sands.
The thing is its a lot easier to just farm a good sands compared to goblet.
@@TheGenshinIdiot That's why you make the Goblet your off-piece. Most people, 99% of the time, have an Elemental DMG Bonus goblet with Crit substats from a random trash/incompatible set. It's a waste of Elixir to craft a Goblet especially when it's not even guaranteed to roll into the substats when you level it. You can get a perfect sands on-set for 2 artifact sets instead of 1 using the same amount of Elixir as making 1 Goblet. Also Sands are way more universal, because most characters are gonna want something like ATK% but not all characters are the same element (for example making a Sands for Marechausse/Golden Troupe/Unfinished Reverie is going to allow several characters to use the artifact set while switching between different Elemental DMG Goblets off-set). Also getting a perfect Energy Recharge Sands on Emblem is great for so many characters. Circlet is relatively easy to get on-set as there's not a lot of options for Circlet main stat compared to Goblet and you don't need a double Crit substat.
@@hallyuniverse What im saying is that a double crit sands is easier to farm 100% of the time.
You should farm the set you're going for and get the goblet with elixir since the chance that its not going to be a piece you already have a good version of is higher.
What is the point of using your elixir on something that you may already have a good enough version to use on instead of getting something that will tremendously help you out.
Ill put it like this
You farm and get
70% Value sands from farming
30% Value goblet from farming
Overall you will be better off to try and improve the goblet of the set since it gives a bigger increase.
The best solution is.
Farm the domain,get your flower and feather,than get one good piece of the remaining one on wich you are sure you are fine with and than use your elixir on the cheapest thing left.
If you use it before you just risk getting a good piece of the same type.
Yeah
I’m just saving up the elixir for now…
@@TheGwilwileth same
Same
I not planning on using any for a long time. I like the QoL changes that they've been introducing. We just need better things for WL9. Increased leyline drop rates, domain drops increased too trounce included. That's all I need.
Generally the Domain drops dont increase after 45, would be an insane update if they added more.
Ikr the updates in qol are partially adequete, it was all Sparky but wl 9 isn't that great.... And this new artifact thing is once a 4 patch thingie for most people, so idk wtf am i supposed to even say about this
If only the limit of making this is 2 every one phase and not 1 per update
I think 4 should be what we get honestly.
@@TheGenshinIdiot right?
@@TheGenshinIdiot yeah that's what I was saying
Circlets get a good value on someone like neuvillette, who runs marechaussee and gets a ton of crit rate already, so you wouldn't want all rolls on it into crit rate, meanwhile hp% is almost as good as crit rolls on him so that makes both stats valuable and then i feel circlet is good to craft, but sands value in those cases like neuvillette drops because you would want as many rolls in crit dmg and not many in crit rate on sands, so even tho u can pick both crits, you need a lot of luck for it to actually roll well.. Great video dude! :D
Yeah thats a good point, thank you
Crafted a double crit atack sands and it started as a 3 liner and then proceeded to roll 1000 flat hp.
And thats the issue
Cool bro. I'll hit you up in 3 months and tell you how my goblet turned out.
Ill be waiting
@@TheGenshinIdiot bet
You should be able to make Sanctifying Elixir without waiting for 40+ days everytime or make the cost less.
@@KaoriSakuraCh yeah maybe 4 craftable an update would be nice
@@TheGenshinIdiot Too much, atleast 2... Free double crit goblet per update is too cheese
@@berrymegicula3. 3 is between 2 and 4
@@berrymegicula It's not too much considering that doesnt affect the rolls of the artifact. Its still easily possible to roll into the other stats
They gotta force money out of ppl somehow keep them grinding to waste primos on resin 😂
Long story short: all come to "maybe" you getting a good piece farming 🤣
People better use it for whatever they need, in my case I've been farming for clorinde and arlecchino for 4+ months and I don't have a double crit flower or feather yet so at the end is just bad luck that can destroy your 4 months wait for 4 elixirs to get a piece with double crit that end up leveling up all def% 🤷🏻
I still would just farm more, I didnt have a whimsy set at all for my arlecchino until recently. Its just feels like a waist of very rare resources.
to me this is best spent on sands or goblet - which ever you have the worse off-piece for. for instance, my noelle uses an off-piece goblet, but it has fucking 22.4 crit rate in it, WITH crit damage, def% and ER. it's perfect. no matter what i craft with this, it will NEVER be better than that off-piece goblet. so if i wanted to improve her further, my best bet would be her sands, which while kinda godly, is my worst piece for her.
Yes it is dependent, I just wanted to make a rule of thumb video so people wouldn't use their things way to early on feathers and flowers
i forgot to watch this before using a sanctifying elixir
very bad job, the reaper will be in touch shortly.👎
@@TheGenshinIdiot oh no, its over...
to me it goes like this
if im building for 1 character only i pick goblet since an on set piece elem goblet is really hard to come by
but if i want an overall account upgrade i pick the circlet
as you said a circlet is easy to offset piece that means a hyper perfected circlet of a crit rate or crit damage is universal and anyone can use it
Yeah I think getting a couple of those is nice but then again you have the issue of 1 crit stat and just hoping your rolls go into it
if you look at it 1 crit sub stat arti is better on rng since on 2 crit sub your now rolling 2 rng dice
since you want it to roll in to crit and crit damage in balance or the same scenario as 1 crit sub roll in to 1
while on the circlet you only need to not roll on the 4th unwanted sub
since you can guarantee a crit or crit dmg on main and sub and 3rd can be ER which is also a universal stat
@@spheroboom7299 No Im thinking of it being a 50% chance (assuming its not rigged) for it to roll into a good stat, im not really concerned about which one get more or if they get even
talking about surface level understanding
goblet doesn't have to be on set mate, just craft sands onset
if you have a shitty offset goblet then sure go and try your luck with an onset goblet
@@dragondevil69 sure but from my playing you’re more likely to farm a good circlet than a good goblet. Dendro has been out for ages and I still don’t have a good goblet for it. It’s clear this system can’t just make you an entire set really so you’re going to have to farm for a bit still.
@@TheGenshinIdiot why are you shoving a circlet to the mix?
that's the surface level of understanding
and that's your situation for the dendro goblet which is like i've written if you don't have a good goblet offset then try for the onset goblet using this system
an onset goblet is much more valuable
@@TheGenshinIdiot Since circlet are easier to farm you can make a good build by crafting a very good sand, farm a circlet and then use an off set goblet. Instead of using it for an on set goblet wich costs 4 and for all you know could still be end up useless if it doesnt roll well.
@@gianlucabrambilla9665 Thats assumming you dont get a good sands at all from just farming, upgrading to a goblet that can be better than your nonexistent version can help a lot.
I watched this after using a sanctifying elixir
The police will be with you shortly
@@TheGenshinIdiot tiver me shimbers 🥶
Its better than nothing but still not good. They have to add elixir as a reward from event or cut the cost of crafting. Its kinda bullshit that it takes 160days to get goblet that will roll flat def...
Yeah I think making 4 craftable and then giving 4 from events would be great hopefully they add more ways to get it
Watched this before getting even 1 Sanctifying Elixir.
Good job 👍
2 crit selected then it all rolls flat fucking def
At fucking least guarantee that it rolls in crit 🤦
I know which is why this needs to not be so limited
Goblets are the hardest one to get on-piece with ideal substats so I agree that jt should be the priority and I already thought of or planned this when this was leaked.
Sadly we wont get many chances from looking how many there are
you can get 3 sanc elixir through obisidan fragments that can be crafted into obsidian rings exclusive to each natlan tribe
Yes this is true
Btw you can find 3 from exploration so rn it’s not so bad
Can u tell me the locations or quest names?
@@LateefA519 how I haven’t seen a single one and they don’t put them on the official interactive map
@@alexsjarif basically look for luxurious chests for obsidian fragments and once u get enough you can open 3 secret tribe areas each have 1 elixir
You get one at the level 10 rewards of the sigil offering system by turning in pyro sigils to the place inside the stadium. I don’t think you literally find them out in the wild, unless there’s another one I’m not aware of.
@@LumpySpaceNinja yep you can get 3 in secret tribe locations
There are 4 sanctifying elixir in open world. 3of them can be obtained after you collect the 3 Obsidian rings and the other is on this thing that level up with the pyro coins.
@@Heveryt0 there are more from the sigil things it’s every 10 levels
@@TheGenshinIdiot Ohh! Great
I’m kinda disappointed that I went out of my way to farm 5 elixers and later learnt that you can only create one piece per set. Mualani won’t be getting built anytime soon 😔
Well you shouldnt be using them on flowers and feathers so that only leaves you with the ability to use 5 if you craft circlet and sands which I advise against
Honestly goblets i fell like arent actually as important as people make them to be. 4 elixir is way too much
The thing is the chance that youre going to get a good goblet are incredibly lower than the other options
you can get elixir from the place where u trade sigils for rewards
Yes this is true
I really hate that time limit. If I were to fix it, I'd rather remove that but increase the grind. For now people can outsmart the system by simply destroying multiple lv4 5 star artifacts instead of putting 5 lv20s. Or if they really want to limit it, at least give us ability to craft 2 predertermined main stat artifact just like in HSR.
Tbh only giving us ability to craft 1/4 of it per update and then the rest of them from BP and offering reward is a joke. Not all updates have new regions with additional offering level, so how are we going to get the elixir ? It seems that some updates wont even let you craft the predetermined stat artifact at all
Hopefully they become less greedy with this over time.
@@TheGenshinIdiot I actually dont expect too much tbh. I've been to a worse more greedy game. Genshin is like nothin lol
I can only think of one place to find them in open world. Its those tribes' secret rooms, I happened to find the one in the first tribe and there was something REALLY shiny sitting on the pedestal it kinda looked like that one time in liyue when there was a five star artifact in those ruins but it could be a sanctifying elixir.
The natlan sigils also give you some
Yep seems to be the only way other than the sigil thinggie
The place you can get the elixer is the faults inside of tne childen of echos village
Yeah and in the other villages it seems
They should make it craftable every week -,-
@@F4TH3R13SS that’s 6 and I want 8 so it’s probably more likely they do yours than mine
You can get an elixer from handing in Pyro Sigils at the Tablet of Tona in Natlan.
@@Rem694u2 yes you can get 2 this patch I believe
@@TheGenshinIdiot You can also get 3 of them, one from each faction, by collecting 3 obsidian fragments randomly from chests in their respective regions, crafting them together than then opening the Tribal Trove in each area. I've only managed to get 2 of the obsidian fragments so far though, one Yellow and one Azure.
@@Rem694u2 Yeah I made a video on that
@@TheGenshinIdiot Oh, nice. lol
Holy shit mate. It sounds so obvious after you said it. I was gonna FUCK up majorly. It’s why I suck at this easy as fuck game. Everyone says it’s easy and here I am still coping hard with my Lisa trying something
Glad I could help
The pyro sigil offering has the elixirs in it at some point in the offerings
@@panad0ras yeah it’s every 10 levels
All that hard works for so little
I think they should’ve copied the synthesizer mechanic already in use in HSR, that would’ve been better imo, even tho we can’t choose the substats
Yeah I assume there will be more in future updates otherwise the "you can craft only 1 piece per set an update" is kind of useless
That volcano is another part of natlan,rough guess it probably dark side of natlan,u know that they preparing thear warriors against spiral abyss,so that is my guess,cant wait to see that part of natlan where actually magma flow everywhere.
And about sanctifying elixir u can get from giving the pyro sigil to that circle eye thing in battle arena
I dont really consider the sigil thing apart of exploration although they are linked but even still its pretty tough
I dont how is called i forgot but i give the pyro sigil there and got one.
Plus u know what is worst, men dont have words for this i open one of hiden chambers, and got just 1 SE, and i got five of two different kind artefakt, fuck me its in Children of echoes region of hidden chamber if u ask
Ended up creating a deepwood EM sands for Nahida
@@leonardomiguelnanorodrigue8431 I hope it was good
I dont have a electro goblet with double crit. finally i can have now😢
Nice
You can find sanctify elixir's upgrading the thing with pyro sigils
Yes this is true I got to level 10 after this video was done
you can find the sanctifying elixir in the open world of natlan but idk where some are there's a few barriers around the three tribes but their blocked by different obsidian coloured rings
Yeah I still havent found it
@@TheGenshinIdiot i found a green obsidian fragment but i've been looking for a guide too find them Natlan being new and all it's hard to find a location and some appear in Lux chests and precious ones... it's going to be impossible without the compass
@@TimeLords910 oh I got a couple of those thinggies I didnt know what they were used for, world quests seem to be the way to get them.
@@TheGenshinIdiot you combine 3 of those rings go to a barrior and you get 1 elixir and 10 random artefacts from natlan
I judt opened every legendary cgest and boom I have 4 now tomorrow I get another cause one chest needs a day to appear
@@Art.f.d I have the 3 rings now but I dunno how to craft guess I gotta do more world quests
To me this is wrong, because it is missing at least one important fact: because of it's easier to get the rest (goblet is harder) and it costs less, you can still pick those artifacts and leave the goblet as off piece. Maybe you still get a decent circlet and sands after weeks/months, but not so good feather and flower. It can happen, and I have many cases like this. Goblets are mostly the off piece on the average build.
if that's true, and rolling is not guaranteed, picking cheaper artifacts can still be a decent choice. (and if it rolls into shit, you spent 1 stuff instead of 4)
I get what youre saying but the thing is you should be farming anyways while taking advantage of this system.
Lets say you get at 60% value sands while farming
Its highly unlikely you get a goblet which can compete with anything, this is why you said "Goblets are mostly the off piece on the average build."
Basically upgrading a 0% goblet is better than upgrading a 60% sands
I wouldnt say the circlet is worth it as you lost a lot of value not being able to chose a crit stats as both subs which is why I say it should from now on be the off piece.
Also never use it for flowers and feathers, they are actually way to easy to farm, I get it if your build is like perfect in every other way but honestly its just a waist unless youre in the 0.1% senario.
The limit is so unecessary. Why couldn't we get to craft as many elixirs as we want?
Yeah I think maybe upping it to 4 per update would be a good change
It's crazy hard to get the elixir I will use it for goblet always since every character can use it
Yeah maybe making like a good Dendro, pyro, electro, ect goblet would be a good start. At the rate this is going thats going to take years though.
40 days for just a single i can proly get the piece i want by farming for 40 days hoyo just tricked us proly going to put this elixir in the shop so that people spend more money on their game
@@BlACKOUT-XD hopefully not
You get 1 at 10levels at the plate thing that is like the tree - so 40levels for a goblet that rolls on def
Yeah this definitely feels pretty harsh but it is still useful
The new system is a step in the right direction but it's implementation is f#*ked. 40 days? Really? Not to mention the cost of creating one is out of line. It should be infinitely creatable or at most, weekly capped and require 10 - 15 lvl4 artifacts per elixir max. It's wouldn't be broken in the least, we have all felt the pain of double crit stat artifacts rolling all they way in flat def, hp or atk without a single crit roll. All this does is give you a better chance at a decent artifact, not a guarantee. IMO, the way it is, they shouldn't have bothered, it's frankly an insult.
I mean they did this with the commisions so maybe we can see this reworked in a later update
I used my sanctifying elixir to create a Husk of Opulent Dreams flower with defense % substat just because I'm super lazy, haha
I mean its a bad domain, i get it. But why DEF%????
@@TheGenshinIdiot I just want to see how much defense I can get for one character 😅
Sands gives the best value in my opinion.
Its just that you can easily get the sands compared to the goblet, with the goblet youre probably not going to get one with double crit stats.
you can get them in the natlan sigil offering thing
Yes this is true
You can get extra 3 in 3 tribe
Yes this is true from what ive heard, its still an issue that we arent going to have tribes in every update
100 % everything, got 6 elixirs. So we will see them probably ever patch or 2.
Still wish there were more
Yeah I found that a little too much expensive too, I mean I know it's something really powerful, but it has a lot of limits, for example they could have done that the feather and the flower cost 2, but you can select 3 substats (cause the main it's always locked), or maybe they could have reduced the costs of something else like the goblet that's expensive as a fkn lunge, or at least, I could have been ok with the fact that it's so expensive if they made something like a little enhanced probability to roll the substats that you had chosen, for example you made the goblet with dmg bonus as main and as sub rate and damage, it costs 4 pcs, but at least I'm a bit sure to roll one of the substats that I chose, for example maybe instead of 25% for every substat, 30% for the 2 that I chose and 20% for the others, I think it could have been reasonable for the cost, a little bit more fair, I don't even ask all of them, but just something that can make me say: ok it's expensive but I'm sure it'll be worth it
@@7heshadow803 yeah maybe if we could get to level 12 and select what stat it rolls into for those first 3 would be great
Sooo back to genshin could never?
I guess because they managed to dwindle the hype on this.
What if my feathers and flowers are my worst pieces lol
@@gremmi3 then do some farming, it really isn’t that hard to get a good one and it will be way better if you just use it for another set for another character
ER is a better substat than atk 99% of the time, over valuing crit is an easy noob mistake
@@ShirakoriMio eh it depends on the character you’re building
What are you stuck on 2.X or something? Lmao
Crit has the most offensive value. Deal with it
@S_Cyro it's about rarity and efficient rotations obviously you need crit but without energy you will burst 1 time in 20 working days
@@ZeppeliGamingYou can put your supports on Favonius for that. Having multiple characters of the same element also reduces the energy needs significantly. We also have many characters now who don't really care about using bursts or have low energy cost. All in all it's a really dumb take to purposefully go for ER sub stats rather than other offensive stats on your dps
WE CANT EVEN USE IT LOL. Cost is 4 and we got 1 max :P (and no i refuse to pay for battlepass)
But if we do get extra ones from events i realy recomend you craft new artifact set if you are planing to go for Xilonen and go for Geo goblet with crit rate and crit damage (and if you get defense, its a bonus for her anyway).
Scroll of the Hero of Cinder City is probaly best bet as Obsidian Codex is more for pure dps characters.
So HP/ATK/DEF/GEO DAMAGE/CRIT RATE in that order. If you by a chance get her weapon Peak Patrol Song, you will still need crit as bonus is only 3.2% max crit rate lol.
But you can use 4 star Flute of Ezpitzal i would try to get R5 at least if you have saved up billets.
Nah there is 3 more in the region + anniversary rewards
all I want is perfect piece per patch, is that too much lol.
@@Marta1Buck no but actually yes - genshin 2024
@@TheGenshinIdiot I legit think that it's a hoyolab interaction farming from hoyo. I would imagine having a better system will make players stop complaining hence reducing their interaction in hoyolab.
I thought it would cost a full set of artifacts to get one artifact with the stats you want but this is way worse and so expensive
Also lost my 55/45 to diluc of all people ;-;
Yeah thats a little too cheap. I know the diluc pain.
@@TheGenshinIdiotidk it would seem fair for one month seeing that it can still avoid rolling into the stats u want unless it's a main stat. Also have you run into a boss called " He never dies" in Natlan?😂
Lost to Tighnari, have c2 now😢
@@Sky_901 Is that the capybara
@@TheGenshinIdiot yup😂
Honestly just go for the Flower and Feather not enough elixir for the goblet and circlet
Id have more luck on strongbox
No youre going to easily get a good flower and feather from just farming artifacts, the others are no where near as easy.
@TheGenshinIdiot and there is no point in making them cost 3-4 elixir if you can't choose all 4 substats
Even then, they could still roll bad
I used it on a feather before I watched it but there are still tree and quest elixirs I won’t make the mistake again
Yeah its definitely not worth it
Why are the elixors so expensive 😭😭😭
I KNOW!!
too late i already used it (got a 45 cv obsidian flower)
I will find you
Does that mean i need 4 patches to make 4 elixir thingy for 1 artifact?
No, we are getting more from the sigil rewards and someone said they found 3 from exploring but I have yet to verify it.
And we thought HSR’s version of this was stingy as f#ck….
@@darylewalker6862 I didn’t think that
So I have a little dillemma so im here to get opinions. Im trying to get a good 4 piece for my Arlechino. I have an off piece sands and a 14cv goblet. I was thinking it would be better to get the sands from this as it would cost half the elixir and I could use an off piece goblet (i have a few). Thoughts?
Depends how good your goblet off piece is and if youre going to keep farming for Arle, if you dont want to touch the domain again It wouldnt be a bad choice but also not a good choice as one week in the domain and you can probably get a somewhat decent sands.
@@TheGenshinIdiot my off piece sands would have about 25-30 cv. The thing about the on piece sands is that I've been farming this domain pretty much every day since Arlechinos release and I haven't gotten a single usable sands😭 I have rotten luck with sands anyways and I don't think it's resin efficient to be farming that domain when the new Natlan domain is out
@@leobiju3787 well I mean if your on piece is the same as off piece then what’s hurting you from using the on piece sands
@@TheGenshinIdiot I don't have a single on piece sands😞
NATLAN WORLD QUEST GAVE ME THIS ITEM
where???
@@kairi22276 fully don't remember,,, either got it from a world quest or the tablet of tona..
Which one, ive done the full archon quest and a world quest didnt get it yet.
@@TheGenshinIdiot got ti from the tablet of tona..
@@TheGenshinIdiot ig the 11th one..
ok so wtf am i gonna do with my 400 or so +20 artefacts that are clogging up my inventory >? what exactly - ?
🤷
U can use some to make elixer, or give them to me
This is true
@@LV-yt7vl very
160 days for ele/cr/cdm.... I'm crying
@@viego29 well there are other sources, the sigil thing in natlan gives you some
Its fine imo
Crit rate on obsidian 💀💀💀
@@Froggycolouring I wasn’t really talking for the set
What is the best combination of artifacts to sacrifice for getting the elixir? Lvl 4 artifacts give 4/100, whereas lvl 20 artifacts give 30/100. Is it still better to use many lvl 4s to save on artifact experience?
I dont know if it matters, I would just say throw in as much useless artifactr u got
@@TheGenshinIdiot It will at some point. A lvl 8 only gives 8 points but costs more than two lvl 4s, though those do require two 5-stars. I don't know the full math, but there must be some optimal configuration to it.
I've been farming Navia's Domain and my god it is week 3 and I still didn't get a Crit Rate Circlet 😭at this point I'm gonna choose the circlet !
It will take 5 months to get a circlet from the artifact crafting system, you will most surely get one circlet before time enough passes for you to get it
I mean you could just use a off piece
Should I try to go for on piece goblet or circlet? Im trying to grind my akasha rank on hu tao.
My goblet is an off piece with 7% cr, 27% cdmg, em, and hp%
Or should I go for circlet? Its harder to get good rolls because only 1 crit substat but it would probably give the most upgrade if its good since my best circlet rn is 12% cdmg.
That goblet seems pretty great, I would say that circlet is your best choice unless you want to try and see if you can find a off set circlet thats better than you current goblet.
@@TheGenshinIdiot alright, thanks!
trying to get goblet will be a waste of resources because it's have 8 valuable rolls, get circlet, it's only have 2 crit rolls whose are very important for a main damage dealer
Omg I did it and I got a cr circlet with
29.5% cdmg and 44 em
I went from top 11% to top 1.8%
@@hkexe nice
How many to craft until: No roll into def/HP/any flat
The question we all want to know
Bruh what is this new type of scam, we already have artifact scambox, 1elixir every 41 day & every stat you roll go into flat def ?
@@zerosanity3057 I mean this isn’t really a scam though since all you gotta do is sac off the level 4 artifacts you only raised to see what the 4th substat would be
I hope they reduce the cost
I think its more likely they will give more
Does the elixir expires at the end of a patch?
The crafted amount no, you are just able to craft a new one every patch
I have all good artifact for arlecchino except for flower and circlet which one should i use it on cuz i think if i picked circlet my luckyass would roll all into everything but cd%
@@okuyasunijimuraloveitalian8556 yeah honestly I would say neither, you can easily just do some more runs in the domain. I get that you’ve been unlucky so far but statistically you should get a good flower soon.
i see no value on this new gadget, maybe i'm missing something...
Just use it while youre already farming for a character, overall this isnt as amazing as we thought when they revealed it but its still useful.
I already use mime for em circlet for kazuah
Unless you needed an energy recharge piece I feel like you could've just farmed it easier compared to other artifacts
I like the new system and I don’t mind grinding.
I just think we need to be able to make more than 1 artifact a update
What do u need to craft that elixir
Shove a load of artifacts into it, you have to level the artifacts first
@TheGenshinIdiot damn there already hard enough to level tho I've benched so many characters due to artifacts not leveled
@@powfu_holic7964 seems like they figured that would be an issue and have been giving loads of xp this update
@TheGenshinIdiot wait reallyyyyy 😳 are u sure it's for artifacts
@TheGenshinIdiot bcuz the only way to level artifacts is to farm domains and the rewards suck u can hardly get 1 level up on a artifact with those drops
once per 40 days.
Wow... *looks at elixer* this is worthless!
yeah...
Can anyone tell me where i can find the elixer exactly in natlan
@@alexsjarif you can’t, from where I can see it’s in the Sigil thing
is still random so this mechanic is trash
Yeah would be better if we could make 2 an update at least
Hope they have QoL on that crafting shit
Mine rolled all in defense
This link really resonated with me on the complaints on this "artifact synthesizer"
ua-cam.com/video/3BI0RvgLv6o/v-deo.htmlsi=FXXlDQvabphMm21x
Hopefully they come out with some more in future updates
It's rubbish but expected of genshin to time gate this. Once again, genshin could never give something good. Genshin always needs to be abusive.
We will see they changed the daily commisions after they implemented encounter points
This new sactifying elixir is bullshit
Dont buy into this guy, you are just wasting your artefacts its not even guaranteed plus who knows how long we have to wait to get our peice
I was so wrong having a little hope and thought that mihoyos will be bringing some lively changes to genshin and listened to their community.
But its all another bullshit dawei cries my ass.
@@undiscovered6971 well it depends how they handle it after this update i wouldn’t be surprised if we get more over time
scam update lol
Eh it will be useful to have along side already farming artifacts
Not a scam, we just got baited and too hyped up forgetting it is Hoyo we talking about
Only can make 1 every patch, then after upg until +8 it all role into flat defense
Repeat until 1 year
This is scam😂
It will help complete the 4 piece
this whole system is shit
I wouldnt say its super bad but definitely not as amazing as it was thought to be when they revealed it
@@TheGenshinIdiot thats the worst part for me they basically kinda scammed the players in my mind...
Me after using sanctifying elixir into feather piece ☠️☠️
At least its only 1
i watched this after using a sanctifying elixir
Shame
😔