He learned to talk down to people as a kid before his planet blew up. And his handler, his bodyguard, Napa- was definitely told by his father King Vegeta to raise Prince Vegeta to be the next king. Vegeta is one of the greatest anime characters of all time. His teachings and the fact that his planet was destroyed and he was belittled by Frieza made him incredibly bitter, and then losing to Kakarot, one of lesser saiyans (all saiyans are warriors so he still had some respect for kakarot regardless) drove him to talk mad trash.
To this day this whole story arc of the Majin Saga is my favorite. It really dives into Vegeta's personality and motives so well and its probbably why Vegeta is such a fan favorite
Was a fan favorite because of Frieza saga. No question. Toriyama received thousands of letters from fans about bringing him back after that. He hated it.
Vegeta is hard to understand for some but if you pay attention in z hes a better character than goku because you can tell he was evil because of fear of freeza which motivated him coming to earth for dragonballs ..he never was allowed to be anything else despite having royal blood and being the favorite of the galactic emperor freeza meaning extra protection and loyalty ...unlike goku who has that choice cause he bumped his head and landed on earth as a baby....you can trust vegeta when it matters most because he's real...he will train to surpass the best and make a difference...fighting a fusion between goku and vegeta isn't fair because they form a perfect being basically above gods even...they are both heroes
For the first and only time in the series, Vegeta's sheer arrogance and pride was a massive dub. Dude voluntarily succumbed to literal mind control for the power boost and told his new _master_ to get bent.
Vegeta pounding goku as a majin felt so good every blow he landed was catharsis imo....vegeta never had pals like goku or easy childhood....he killed and enjoyed it...then he has to settle down as if that's going to make him happy
How can one not be...majin vegeta in dub played by sabat giving it his all to make this kids show feel like it's the goat with the bruce music in this arc is so well scripted acted and looks so good
@@flawlesssack1122 You know that you don’t have to scream like a maniac or open your mouth like a goof throughout the whole episode to show your interest You can just sit there and enjoy quietly
I feel like you need to throw down with some OG stuff for her to understand how much of an evil prideful dude Vegeta has been for like half the series. That iconic battle with Goku fighting him is perfect, I remember watching that as a kid on vhs.
@@razkable I like it all the way through. Not a fan of this version. Reminds me of the toonami days where I was a teenager and I hated my teenager years
And be both way stronger than Gohan was back when he fought Cell. It's crazy to think what training they had to go through seeing how far behind they were.
Naw they are still androids. Krillen wished for them to be human, but Shenron couldn't do it. Instead, Krillen wished for the bombs to be taken out. When Goku asks Krillen how he is able to have a kid with 18, Krillen says she was human before getting remodeled. In other words, Shenron couldn't make her human cause she is already a human. Her having robotic parts doesn't change that fact.
Vegeta had been waiting longer than 7 years to fight Goku. It'd been 7 years since Cell, but don't forget Vegeta had been waiting since the Saiyan Saga. They were on Namek for months, then Goku was gone for months after Frieza, then they trained for 3 years for the Androids, then you have them spending a year (of their lives) in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber (and Vegeta went in twice), then you have this 7 year period. Vegeta waited closer to 13 years to fight Goku again. Also, I can't even count how many time I've seen Vegeta's speech to Supreme Kai about why their squabble ISN'T meaningless and I still get goosebumps. It's some of my favorite dialogue in this entire series.
@@tebogomohanoe5443 Nah. The wish was just to remove the bomb. 17 and 18 are humans with mechanical enhancements unlike 14, 15, 16 and 19 who were purely mechanical
@@tebogomohanoe5443 There are people that still don't realize 17 & 18 are cyborgs not androids. There was dubbing error, 16 and 19 are the only androids. Cyborgs are humans with cybernetic enhancements. That's why she can still have a kid.
Yes, that's what I thought. Krillin used the Dragon Balls to get the bombs out, but doing so would kill 17 &18 (& also something else would happen, I forgot), so he asked to make them human.
The androids sexual organs were left alone by Gero lol. It’s mostly their circulatory system and their muscle tissues that were augmented so they’re able be stronger and have unlimited energy when fighting. They’re more cyborgs than androids.
They are cyborgs but the translation sover the years are messed up. So now they just refer to them as androids. Its why in some scans they refer to them a c18 c19 and so on
And could have saved all those people, beat Vegeta into unconsciousness, instant transmissioned back to the space ship, killed Dabura and Babadi stopping Buu from coming back... all before running out of energy because he was dead so the transformation would drain less of his energy. Granted, he would have ended the series dead that way... but think of all the time saved.
@@macdaddymario Plot armor lmfao. Tbh though the only thing I can chalk it up to is Goku always loving, and never being able to turn down, a challenge. No he didn't want Buu revived, and no he didn't WANT to fight Vegeta, but both of those options were challenges for him to test his strength and Buu was way more interesting because of the mystery, not to mention the fear. MajinVegeta was Goku's test of his SS2 abilities without trying to seriously use SS3. Buu was Goku's ultimate test (who proved to be too much to handle more than once). And even though Goku won in the very end, I think he knew that his victory (or loss) would just be a stepping stone for his growth.
what happened with Android 18 is this: Krillin wished Shenron to remove the robotic parts within her and become regular human. that's how they have a kid
I always took vegeta pride as his biggest strength... wanting to be the best helps the team in small ways and his grudge against goku makes sense because he wants to live goku's life be the mc everyone praises which from his pov seems like a good time with all the pals he made growing up welcoming him with open arms..he never liked hid saiyan prince life or being evil...he's taking it out on goku ....he doesn't realize goku as a kid struggled too...he hates being surpassed by a low class
Chances are, if it didn't put a strain on his body and didn't severely cut down on his time on earth for that day then Kakarot would've likely fought Vegeta for a bit at Super Saiyan 2 and then went to Super Saiyan 3 to end the fight and got to Buu
Can't he just instant transmit there in case something went wrong and use ssj 3 vs buu dabura and babadi ending it right there once he felt gohan was close to dying.....but the issue was he was passed out when that occurred due to vegeta
@@razkable No, I’m pretty sure the wish was for them to remove the bomb from their body but I may be wrong. What I am sure about is that they was already human before becoming androids.
@@razkable no Krillin tried to wish for 17 and 18 to become human again but Shenron said it was beyond his power so Krillin wished for the bombs to be removed
To be fair he is not in ssj and majin ssj vegeta just got a new magical power boost from babadi and gohan didn't recover yet from fighting dabura and didn't they steal his energy earlier this arc?...I would say ssj 2 vegeta being able to bully base gohan whose close to on fumes here makes sense considering he's not eaten a senzu bean yet...
Pride arrogance and being cocky are the first things roshi instilled taught goku not to be teaching him he's not the best and vegeta is exactly driven by those things ironically cause he thinks he is the best from birth and doesn't understand how a low class surpassed him a royal elite...and fans wonder why he always fails smdh...toriyama made sure never to give him one ups on goku gohan cause otherwise it teaches bad lessons and retroactively goes against messages he told kids earlier in the manga...goku and gohan even future trunks are heroes...vegeta is not.....roshi beats kid goku at the 21st budokai so he understands there's always someone out there better to keep goku motivated to keep training which came in handy many times...goku never gets bored or tired of training...all thanks to roshi making sure kid goku never thought he was at the top already and thus got lazy
Well its more then just that if he did buu wouldve been revived much faster and he wouldve used up all his time he had on earth goku knew he couldnt waste that valuable time given the situation.
@@ZombiexJake not only that, but people forget that the higher the power up, the faster it wanes when its new to them, so if he went ssj3 he wouldnt have lasted Youd think ssj god and ultra instinct, people woulda learned that by now But i guess the video games make it seem like theyre unstoppable in forms Hell even ssj 1 goku had to train to keep that form on longer
Goku toying with majin vegeta fat boo and kid boo and hurting boohan while only ssj 2 and holding bootenks off without going that hard and a big reason why goku imo could of beat cell despite people thinking to the contrary is goku never really fights to kill in dbz until the very end and even then he wishes kid boo to come back cause he needed help to beat him...he always tries to give his foe a good fight but not kill them...outside of yakkon....he may have tried to kill freeza with that last you fool...not sure...but he held back still cause he could of easily killed him if he wanted....he allowed that half of freeza to still exist so he could save himself....he could of destroyed his entire body if he wanted.....he literally knew boo without ssj 3 gotenks fused was no match vs himself and gohan....he's that strong
I might be wrong, but I think 18 asked Hercule for twice as much the prize money he was going to get from winning. Like, the prize money amount and then that exact amount again out of his own pocket.
The confusing part about the "Androids" is that they are actually more like Cyborgs. In Japanese, the term is Jinzou ningen, which translates to "artificial human" but can also be interpreted as "cybernetically enhanced human." So it's kind of a funky translation that leaves English speaking audiences confused as to why an "android" can have a child.
People don't realize this but remember Supreme Kai can read minds and when Babidi took over Vegeta's mind he could hear the mental battle Vegeta was going through trying to fight off babidi
Vegeta's outburst at the begining was intentional and you found out why he did it, it was feint Babidi into exploiting the evil in his heart, giving him the majin boost.
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Just to let you know that Goku mastered Super Saiyan 3 before this battle with Vegeta, when Vegeta was sent back to earth to help Goku against Majin Buu he said he found out he achieved level 3 on the other world that's why he refused at first to fuse together because Goku was holding back his power to not hurt Vegeta's pride even more and also if he uses that level his time on earth will be shorter due to the amount of energy wasted. So he decided to fight him at his same Super Saiyan 2 level.
The implementation and execution of SS3 is some of Toriyama’s worst writing choices in Z. It makes one of the greatest arcs he ever wrote (Majin Vegeta) almost pointless. If the arc itself wasn’t so compelling it’d be laughable because knowing Goku could go SS3 that whole time is such a blow to the integrity of the story.
A big thing people forget about goku at ssj 3 is he trained for a long time with it unlike gotenks and goku being dead means his ssj 3 vs fat boo is od and could of easily killed him if he wanted but he didn't expect boo to split and for gotenks to be so naive to the time limit due to pride aka not realizing he has to finish boo fast...goku felt he was dead so why should he do everything when its not his world anymore ....so his ssj 3 is better than even ultimate gohan in terms of fighting skill....even if power wise its not true
@@tombstone513 it ruins tension and makes you wonder why he didn't finish off dabura and majin vegeta right away and stop boo from hatching and why he felt gotenks could handle boo...without training...it just feels like a retcon or bad mistakes that goku wouldn't make....sure goku didn't know boo would change but he also helped get elder kai to train gohan after knowing ssj gotenks could handle fat boo....why? like what was the point of goku going to the kai world and training gohan lol...until super boo occurs which goku didn't know could even happen he had no reason to go train gohan...that was really weird
The funny thing to this battle between Goku and Vegeta is that Vegeta thought that Goku was fighting at his full strength but Goku could already go beyond SSJ2 and transform to SSJ3, we could see this afterwards when he tries to stop Majin Buu from destroying a city. Poor Vegeta, always one step behind.
Actually Ssj3 wouldnt have lasted The higher the level, the faster it wanes out Same with ssj1, goku had to train with gohan to keep that form on longer, and we learned more with ssj god and UI that his new forms cant last long unless he trains to keep ot Every form goku uses does the same And even if he kept ssj3 on, vegeta isnt the type to go down easy The angrier vegeta gets, the more powerful and harder he is to take down Wich is why he manages to skip a form and create 2 unique forms for himself later in different sagas Goku didnt hold back, he just played defensively
Android 18 can have kids because at the end of the Cell saga Krillin wished for the androids to become human. They retained their infinite energy, though
Android 17 and 18 are only "android" in name. Dr. Gero just put an unlimited power amplifier in their bodies. Strangely, Gero wasn't smart enough to give himself the same modification.
Vegeta has actually beaten Goku (specifically) every time they have fought. 1st time was after losing the beam struggle, Vegeta turned into a great ape and eventually defeated Goku by crushing his legs. Luckily, Gohan, Krillin, and Yajirobe saved the day. The second time was only through technicality I guess though. Because here they basically "agree" to postpone the fight, only for Vegeta to knock Goku out with a cheap shot so that he could clean up the mess he made.
"android" 18 isnt an android she is a cyborg. the only actual androids from that time were 16 and 19 and cell was a bioengineered android. cyborgs are humans that are altered with mechanical parts to increase performance, abilities, etc
@@BigHuskyGG oh yeah from that time. I see now. It would have been cool if 8 played into the Android saga somehow. Maybe got some upgrades or something.
@@thoughtstream534 it was cool seeing him again in the goku black arc of DBS even for just a few seconds. I hope they bring him back again even if its just for a friends and family moment
Vegeta helped us on namek and vs 19 he saves goku.....he earned his spot on the team he even helped beat cell...but yes this is a black mark on his character...brought upon due to goku being dead dying the way he did..vegeta feels like he is nothing he doesn't care about his family he didn't make pals he is insecure and depressed and takes out his anger on others....
Goku was holding back substantially against Vegeta. Something that hurt Vegeta which he berates Goku for later in the Fusion Saga. Goku was more than capable of defeating Vegeta swiftly but he wanted to sate Vegeta's rage and hatred so he could bring him back onto their side.
Vegeta is strong willed! Being able to keep his mind in ape or oozaru form whatever we shall call it must help him resist babidi's control and keep his mind intact
I spent so long thinking this form of Vegeta was called Majin Vegeta, when actually the official title is Prine of Destruction Vegeta, which sounds waaaaay more gangsta lol
And the reason android 18 can have kids is they used the dragonballs to make her human again I can't remember which episode they mentioned that in it was just referenced they never showed it
The beginning of the Buu saga, at least from the tournament to when Buu hatched, was kind of a letdown for me. Just a series of the Supreme Kai talking up an enemy as if they were the greatest threat ever, and then Goku or Vegeta just bullying them to death. Seriously, the Supreme Kai kept acting as if Pui-Pui and Yakon would require one of the Saiyans to sacrifice their life (or Goku's very existence) to have a prayer of beating them, and then he's absolutely amazed when Goku and Vegeta barely put in any effort to annihilate their respective opponents. Even Gohan would have probably bodied Pui-Pui and never broken a sweat.
@@Xizziano I was referring to the retcon in Super. Yes, East Supreme Kai believed it was permanent. He was wrong. Yet Elder Kai didn't think to mention when Vegito de-fused. Toriyama sure has to improvise a lot when the editors and producers demand he make the lore up on the spot.
Imagine waiting for 7 of years of your life for something. Not just waiting, but preparing for it. Then when it finally does happen, some other BS gets in your way to hold you up and potentially cost you your one chance. I'm sure you'd be pissed to the extreme as well and would do almost anything to make sure that you get what you've been preparing for and end up not wasting years of your life. Although I assume it's without murdering innocent people and damaging property
@@colinnixon7739 Fat Buu seems kind of hard to get a read on. His power seems proportional to how angry he gets similar to Gohan. When he gets angry he dominates his opponent.
The Vegeta speeches, emotions and voice acting. It still gives me goosebumps.
Best dialogue in history of anime
too bad the voice actor, chris sabat, is the harvey weinstein of anime
Jeh!! that's what it's meant to do.
Still to this day it gives me goosebumps also.
He learned to talk down to people as a kid before his planet blew up. And his handler, his bodyguard, Napa- was definitely told by his father King Vegeta to raise Prince Vegeta to be the next king. Vegeta is one of the greatest anime characters of all time. His teachings and the fact that his planet was destroyed and he was belittled by Frieza made him incredibly bitter, and then losing to Kakarot, one of lesser saiyans (all saiyans are warriors so he still had some respect for kakarot regardless) drove him to talk mad trash.
i love the delivery of "his debt must be paid"
One of my many favorite Vegeta dialogs in the Buu Saga.
To this day this whole story arc of the Majin Saga is my favorite. It really dives into Vegeta's personality and motives so well and its probbably why Vegeta is such a fan favorite
He’s actually more popular then Goku he has alot Of character development
Was a fan favorite because of Frieza saga. No question. Toriyama received thousands of letters from fans about bringing him back after that. He hated it.
@@yomedeer2695 for actual fans yeah
Vegeta is hard to understand for some but if you pay attention in z hes a better character than goku because you can tell he was evil because of fear of freeza which motivated him coming to earth for dragonballs ..he never was allowed to be anything else despite having royal blood and being the favorite of the galactic emperor freeza meaning extra protection and loyalty ...unlike goku who has that choice cause he bumped his head and landed on earth as a baby....you can trust vegeta when it matters most because he's real...he will train to surpass the best and make a difference...fighting a fusion between goku and vegeta isn't fair because they form a perfect being basically above gods even...they are both heroes
For the first and only time in the series, Vegeta's sheer arrogance and pride was a massive dub.
Dude voluntarily succumbed to literal mind control for the power boost and told his new _master_ to get bent.
And still came out with a L some his soul for the dude to still be stronger
@@nnightkingj People think Goku is a pure-hearted dude, but he did Vegeta hella dirty in that fight.
He dies for it but as a hero...so..and by choice for his loved ones
Vegeta pounding goku as a majin felt so good every blow he landed was catharsis imo....vegeta never had pals like goku or easy childhood....he killed and enjoyed it...then he has to settle down as if that's going to make him happy
“But there’s one thing a saiyan always keeps his PrIIIIIIIIIIIIIDDDEEEahh” one of my favorite moments in dbz history
Damn. They really skipped over “every breath you take is an insult to my honor”, one of the coldest lines ever.
“What clown are you feeling angry, humiliated ” 😂😂
Lol later Vegeta was the one who felt humiliated when he learned Goku hid SSJ3 from him in their fight! 😂
@@blaketindle4703 I grew up watching this sir I’m 400% aware 😐
@@Loner_Mike98 I was just agreeing how funny it was. You don’t have to be so sensitive bro.
@@blaketindle4703 goku technically had to hide it. using that form drained all his time on earth and he had to leave after stalling majin buu with it
@@blaketindle4703 I think he’s more so responding to the way you put it as if he didn’t know
I love how she’s actually really into it!!
I don't see it
Shes not at all
How can one not be...majin vegeta in dub played by sabat giving it his all to make this kids show feel like it's the goat with the bruce music in this arc is so well scripted acted and looks so good
@@flawlesssack1122
You know that you don’t have to scream like a maniac or open your mouth like a goof throughout the whole episode to show your interest
You can just sit there and enjoy quietly
I feel like you need to throw down with some OG stuff for her to understand how much of an evil prideful dude Vegeta has been for like half the series. That iconic battle with Goku fighting him is perfect, I remember watching that as a kid on vhs.
They watched it from the beginning but i cant find the videos must got strikes
Oh thank god. Faulconer soundtrack really helps to make this part epic. I was dreading coming into this video and hearing the Japanese soundtrack.
The japan soundtrack works till mid namek..then I prefer the English one...especially during the last 3 sagas
@@razkable I like it all the way through. Not a fan of this version. Reminds me of the toonami days where I was a teenager and I hated my teenager years
So epic when Goku and Vegeta both go SSJ2!
And be both way stronger than Gohan was back when he fought Cell. It's crazy to think what training they had to go through seeing how far behind they were.
Lmao the announcer was excited to see Goku and that pissed off Vegeta! 😂
"Is it slavery when you get what you want" years of waiting...the tension in the air lol
Never forget Krillin used a wish from Shenron to remove the bombs from the androids bodies so that they could live peaceful human lives.
Pretty sure he made her human again tho
Naw they are still androids. Krillen wished for them to be human, but Shenron couldn't do it. Instead, Krillen wished for the bombs to be taken out. When Goku asks Krillen how he is able to have a kid with 18, Krillen says she was human before getting remodeled. In other words, Shenron couldn't make her human cause she is already a human. Her having robotic parts doesn't change that fact.
Vegeta had been waiting longer than 7 years to fight Goku. It'd been 7 years since Cell, but don't forget Vegeta had been waiting since the Saiyan Saga. They were on Namek for months, then Goku was gone for months after Frieza, then they trained for 3 years for the Androids, then you have them spending a year (of their lives) in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber (and Vegeta went in twice), then you have this 7 year period. Vegeta waited closer to 13 years to fight Goku again.
Also, I can't even count how many time I've seen Vegeta's speech to Supreme Kai about why their squabble ISN'T meaningless and I still get goosebumps. It's some of my favorite dialogue in this entire series.
Actually I know it felt like months but they only on namek for 6-10 days
It's peak writing music and design work imo...
Technically Android 17 and 18 are cyborgs. A cyborg is a human that was given robotic parts, and androids are robots made to look human.
The Androids are technically cyborgs, which is why 18 could reproduce
Naw bro she got the wish from the dragon to turn full human
@@tebogomohanoe5443 Nah. The wish was just to remove the bomb. 17 and 18 are humans with mechanical enhancements unlike 14, 15, 16 and 19 who were purely mechanical
@@tebogomohanoe5443 The dragon could NOT turn them human as Krillin wished.. So then Killin wished for the bombs to be removed..
@@tebogomohanoe5443 There are people that still don't realize 17 & 18 are cyborgs not androids. There was dubbing error, 16 and 19 are the only androids. Cyborgs are humans with cybernetic enhancements. That's why she can still have a kid.
@@Xizziano At GT krillin straight up asked dragon to turn 18 into a human being I just watched it
You skipped the greatest sentence:
"Every breath you take is an insult to my honor"
"But there's one thing a Saiyan ALWAYS keeps,......!"
thank you so much for watching the original version with original music.
Dude is so excited to show her this stuff, it's awesome.
Krillin used the dragon balls to turn 18 into human. That’s how she’s able to have a daughter
No he used the dragon balls to take out the bombs from 17 and 18
Yes, that's what I thought. Krillin used the Dragon Balls to get the bombs out, but doing so would kill 17 &18 (& also something else would happen, I forgot), so he asked to make them human.
The androids sexual organs were left alone by Gero lol. It’s mostly their circulatory system and their muscle tissues that were augmented so they’re able be stronger and have unlimited energy when fighting. They’re more cyborgs than androids.
They are cyborgs but the translation sover the years are messed up. So now they just refer to them as androids.
Its why in some scans they refer to them a c18 c19 and so on
Always think it's an interesting fact that Goku although limited could've went ss3 to finish Vegeta off but didn't want to hurt Vegeta's pride ..
And could have saved all those people, beat Vegeta into unconsciousness, instant transmissioned back to the space ship, killed Dabura and Babadi stopping Buu from coming back... all before running out of energy because he was dead so the transformation would drain less of his energy.
Granted, he would have ended the series dead that way... but think of all the time saved.
@@macdaddymario Plot armor lmfao. Tbh though the only thing I can chalk it up to is Goku always loving, and never being able to turn down, a challenge. No he didn't want Buu revived, and no he didn't WANT to fight Vegeta, but both of those options were challenges for him to test his strength and Buu was way more interesting because of the mystery, not to mention the fear.
MajinVegeta was Goku's test of his SS2 abilities without trying to seriously use SS3.
Buu was Goku's ultimate test (who proved to be too much to handle more than once).
And even though Goku won in the very end, I think he knew that his victory (or loss) would just be a stepping stone for his growth.
what happened with Android 18 is this: Krillin wished Shenron to remove the robotic parts within her and become regular human.
that's how they have a kid
this
Only her bomb was removed. 18 and Krillin have a kid because 18 already has most (or all) of her human parts, just with cybernetic enhancements.
@@AwesomeNinjaXD
my bad. thank you for that correction sir
That wish couldn't be granted 🤣 lol but he removed her bomb
@@Flametasticeedits
yeah, i was been corrected about that earlier
vegeta is an example of someone who lived his life with greatest of intensities
He is meant to be a child like alien who doesn't understand things yet he knows how to speak so well lol
"Is it slavery if you get what you want?"
In contrast, Vegeta didn't like being ruled by another, yet Frieza protected him.
well vegeta let it happen but he wasn't fully controlled by babadi as he uses babadi to gain that extra power and still hold back from killing the kai
@@ItsMeBarnaby And yet he keeps doing it, in every saga (except the android/cell ones)
I always took vegeta pride as his biggest strength... wanting to be the best helps the team in small ways and his grudge against goku makes sense because he wants to live goku's life be the mc everyone praises which from his pov seems like a good time with all the pals he made growing up welcoming him with open arms..he never liked hid saiyan prince life or being evil...he's taking it out on goku ....he doesn't realize goku as a kid struggled too...he hates being surpassed by a low class
You should show her Vegeta vs Jiren. That fight and episode as a whole was so beautifully animated. And Vegetas speech was great
It would be cool if you guys could react to Gohan going to high school.
Disturbing how that second blast almost took out his own family. DBZ never gets old.
Beerus almost died twice in this episode lol 😆
Chances are, if it didn't put a strain on his body and didn't severely cut down on his time on earth for that day then Kakarot would've likely fought Vegeta for a bit at Super Saiyan 2 and then went to Super Saiyan 3 to end the fight and got to Buu
Fax
Can't he just instant transmit there in case something went wrong and use ssj 3 vs buu dabura and babadi ending it right there once he felt gohan was close to dying.....but the issue was he was passed out when that occurred due to vegeta
Vegeta dramatic ass always having flashbacks 😂
For android 17 and 18 they were humans before they became androids, so that is why 18 is able to have a kid since she still has some human parts.
Didn't they wish her to be mostly human
@@razkable No, I’m pretty sure the wish was for them to remove the bomb from their body but I may be wrong. What I am sure about is that they was already human before becoming androids.
@@l.j.galbreath3720 so their cyborgs then not androids
Pretty sure they had to wish 18 to be mostly human cause before the wish she could not have kids and then she could
@@razkable no Krillin tried to wish for 17 and 18 to become human again but Shenron said it was beyond his power so Krillin wished for the bombs to be removed
Gohan is so weak Vegeta’s aura knocked him down lol
To be fair he is not in ssj and majin ssj vegeta just got a new magical power boost from babadi and gohan didn't recover yet from fighting dabura and didn't they steal his energy earlier this arc?...I would say ssj 2 vegeta being able to bully base gohan whose close to on fumes here makes sense considering he's not eaten a senzu bean yet...
The funny part is Goku had SSJ3 sitting in his pocket the whole time.
Goku would never show him that cause he cares about his earned core feelings plus he never would go all out to kill vegeta so they seem even
Dude is reminding me of Kobe 😭
Little did we know at the time goku was playing around with vegeta then a few episodes later he shows us ssj3 😂
Not a few but still..toriyama may not have had ssj 3 figured out yet in the manga....not sure ..going goes ssj 3 like 17.5 eps after majin vegeta
Pride arrogance and being cocky are the first things roshi instilled taught goku not to be teaching him he's not the best and vegeta is exactly driven by those things ironically cause he thinks he is the best from birth and doesn't understand how a low class surpassed him a royal elite...and fans wonder why he always fails smdh...toriyama made sure never to give him one ups on goku gohan cause otherwise it teaches bad lessons and retroactively goes against messages he told kids earlier in the manga...goku and gohan even future trunks are heroes...vegeta is not.....roshi beats kid goku at the 21st budokai so he understands there's always someone out there better to keep goku motivated to keep training which came in handy many times...goku never gets bored or tired of training...all thanks to roshi making sure kid goku never thought he was at the top already and thus got lazy
Funny how goku coulda went super sayin 3 that whole time 😂 yet he said “let’s skip the warm up” lol even then he cared about hurting his pride
Well its more then just that if he did buu wouldve been revived much faster and he wouldve used up all his time he had on earth goku knew he couldnt waste that valuable time given the situation.
@@ZombiexJake not only that, but people forget that the higher the power up, the faster it wanes when its new to them, so if he went ssj3 he wouldnt have lasted
Youd think ssj god and ultra instinct, people woulda learned that by now
But i guess the video games make it seem like theyre unstoppable in forms
Hell even ssj 1 goku had to train to keep that form on longer
@@doesitreallymatter2922 SSj3 goku would've finished majin vegeta in 2 seconds
Goku toying with majin vegeta fat boo and kid boo and hurting boohan while only ssj 2 and holding bootenks off without going that hard and a big reason why goku imo could of beat cell despite people thinking to the contrary is goku never really fights to kill in dbz until the very end and even then he wishes kid boo to come back cause he needed help to beat him...he always tries to give his foe a good fight but not kill them...outside of yakkon....he may have tried to kill freeza with that last you fool...not sure...but he held back still cause he could of easily killed him if he wanted....he allowed that half of freeza to still exist so he could save himself....he could of destroyed his entire body if he wanted.....he literally knew boo without ssj 3 gotenks fused was no match vs himself and gohan....he's that strong
@@SolusFather Never. 🤣
NOOO they cut out the standoff, that’s one of the best parts
I might be wrong, but I think 18 asked Hercule for twice as much the prize money he was going to get from winning. Like, the prize money amount and then that exact amount again out of his own pocket.
She did. I mean they were living with Roshi so she wanted to make sure they could eat and live.
@@sososlugg1423 I mean, I think she was being greedy though. Her family didn't need that much money to eat and live.
@@kmgyening I think it was a fair trade off for letting go him win. And he could afford it. The guy had a city renamed after him for Pete's sake.
@@sososlugg1423 Sure. I just don't think she and her family needed that much money just to live adequately or comfortably in Roshi's house.
@@kmgyening well they might to move into their own place. I mean Roshi did hit on her. And that takes money too.
I forgot about the line “ unless you want another part of the stadium remodeled”
“His prideeeeee!” 😭🥶🥶🥶🥶🥶
The confusing part about the "Androids" is that they are actually more like Cyborgs. In Japanese, the term is Jinzou ningen, which translates to "artificial human" but can also be interpreted as "cybernetically enhanced human." So it's kind of a funky translation that leaves English speaking audiences confused as to why an "android" can have a child.
This is the Prince in his true form. He was right. Babidi took him back to his savage cold roots.
His evil side never left he actually gave in to Babadi on purpose he explains why
People don't realize this but remember Supreme Kai can read minds and when Babidi took over Vegeta's mind he could hear the mental battle Vegeta was going through trying to fight off babidi
It didn't matter he still wanted to kill and fight goku which he knew would help boo get born...vegeta helped babadi
He has a very strong will he can even control his ape transformation completely
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Krillin made a wish that's why she could have kids
Vegeta's outburst at the begining was intentional and you found out why he did it, it was feint Babidi into exploiting the evil in his heart, giving him the majin boost.
Android 18 was a robot created by Dr Gero, not a cyborg. They used the dragonballs to have her turned into a human so that she could have a baby.
One of my favorite fights in Dragon ball z
18 is a human with cybernetic enhancements
you should definitely start watching DBZ abridged its super funny after the first 10ish episodes and it stays true to the characters personalities
Yes I agree love dbz abridged
No. Abridged is a piss take made for 10 year olds
but they have to wait as we don't want to confuse her with the random jokes they put it in remember this is about her not us.
No
When their done
You two seem cool, cool ass nerds/geeks, glad I found ya channel, or UA-cam worked its algorithm lol
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Love the legendary DBZ Music
Krillin wished for 17 and 18 to be alive. He Pinocchio’ed them
Just to let you know that Goku mastered Super Saiyan 3 before this battle with Vegeta, when Vegeta was sent back to earth to help Goku against Majin Buu he said he found out he achieved level 3 on the other world that's why he refused at first to fuse together because Goku was holding back his power to not hurt Vegeta's pride even more and also if he uses that level his time on earth will be shorter due to the amount of energy wasted. So he decided to fight him at his same Super Saiyan 2 level.
The implementation and execution of SS3 is some of Toriyama’s worst writing choices in Z. It makes one of the greatest arcs he ever wrote (Majin Vegeta) almost pointless. If the arc itself wasn’t so compelling it’d be laughable because knowing Goku could go SS3 that whole time is such a blow to the integrity of the story.
A big thing people forget about goku at ssj 3 is he trained for a long time with it unlike gotenks and goku being dead means his ssj 3 vs fat boo is od and could of easily killed him if he wanted but he didn't expect boo to split and for gotenks to be so naive to the time limit due to pride aka not realizing he has to finish boo fast...goku felt he was dead so why should he do everything when its not his world anymore ....so his ssj 3 is better than even ultimate gohan in terms of fighting skill....even if power wise its not true
@@tombstone513 it ruins tension and makes you wonder why he didn't finish off dabura and majin vegeta right away and stop boo from hatching and why he felt gotenks could handle boo...without training...it just feels like a retcon or bad mistakes that goku wouldn't make....sure goku didn't know boo would change but he also helped get elder kai to train gohan after knowing ssj gotenks could handle fat boo....why? like what was the point of goku going to the kai world and training gohan lol...until super boo occurs which goku didn't know could even happen he had no reason to go train gohan...that was really weird
0:23 she was so optimistic.
Best acting of all of dbz. Vegeta thought he stood a chance.
Yes once Cell was defeated, the dragon was summoned. Let's learn the True wishes that were asked for concerning the androids
That's what I thought. Didn't Krillin wish for 18 to be fully human?
Thank God you showed the original, Bruce F. score
The funny thing to this battle between Goku and Vegeta is that Vegeta thought that Goku was fighting at his full strength but Goku could already go beyond SSJ2 and transform to SSJ3, we could see this afterwards when he tries to stop Majin Buu from destroying a city. Poor Vegeta, always one step behind.
Actually Ssj3 wouldnt have lasted
The higher the level, the faster it wanes out
Same with ssj1, goku had to train with gohan to keep that form on longer, and we learned more with ssj god and UI that his new forms cant last long unless he trains to keep ot
Every form goku uses does the same
And even if he kept ssj3 on, vegeta isnt the type to go down easy
The angrier vegeta gets, the more powerful and harder he is to take down
Wich is why he manages to skip a form and create 2 unique forms for himself later in different sagas
Goku didnt hold back, he just played defensively
Android 18 can have kids because at the end of the Cell saga Krillin wished for the androids to become human. They retained their infinite energy, though
Honestly Vegeta lost his pride when he let babadi control him for more power.
The dialogue is insane 🔥🔥
Times like these love the interracial. Hope yall have many great years to come
Android 17 and 18 are only "android" in name. Dr. Gero just put an unlimited power amplifier in their bodies.
Strangely, Gero wasn't smart enough to give himself the same modification.
I actually preferred the "remodeled stadium" line better than the bodies one. I remember that too from way back.
Please show your wife the hatching of Majin Buu, and Buu vs Dabura.
Long live the Prince
The only time where Vegeta beat Goku, best fight in dragon ball history tbh
Vegeta has actually beaten Goku (specifically) every time they have fought.
1st time was after losing the beam struggle, Vegeta turned into a great ape and eventually defeated Goku by crushing his legs. Luckily, Gohan, Krillin, and Yajirobe saved the day.
The second time was only through technicality I guess though. Because here they basically "agree" to postpone the fight, only for Vegeta to knock Goku out with a cheap shot so that he could clean up the mess he made.
"android" 18 isnt an android she is a cyborg. the only actual androids from that time were 16 and 19 and cell was a bioengineered android. cyborgs are humans that are altered with mechanical parts to increase performance, abilities, etc
Can't forget about 8
@@thoughtstream534 i meant strictly from that saga but yes Eighter is best boy
@@BigHuskyGG oh yeah from that time. I see now. It would have been cool if 8 played into the Android saga somehow. Maybe got some upgrades or something.
@@thoughtstream534 it was cool seeing him again in the goku black arc of DBS even for just a few seconds. I hope they bring him back again even if its just for a friends and family moment
You Dropped something boss man
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majin vegeta is lowkey the best character/transformation in the series
Having ur wife fully invested into dbz is a win haha
Vegeta helped us on namek and vs 19 he saves goku.....he earned his spot on the team he even helped beat cell...but yes this is a black mark on his character...brought upon due to goku being dead dying the way he did..vegeta feels like he is nothing he doesn't care about his family he didn't make pals he is insecure and depressed and takes out his anger on others....
Wow I completely forgot that Vegeta threatened supreme kai as well. Before Goku did 😳🤣🤣🤣
Evenly match plus Goku didn't wanna fight foreal and have ssj3 in his back Pocket.
Goku was holding back substantially against Vegeta. Something that hurt Vegeta which he berates Goku for later in the Fusion Saga. Goku was more than capable of defeating Vegeta swiftly but he wanted to sate Vegeta's rage and hatred so he could bring him back onto their side.
Vegeta is strong willed! Being able to keep his mind in ape or oozaru form whatever we shall call it must help him resist babidi's control and keep his mind intact
The pride of the saiyan!
I forgot about them sensoring that line from vegeta
At this moment in time they both was at equal strength
This is my favorite fight and favourite version of vegeta, you really feel for him
And Goku still held back. He was able to go SSJ3 and Vegeta realized that when he watched Goku fighting Kid Buu.
Yup but SS3 consumes so much energy thats its quite useless on a long fight and Vegeta has loads of durabilaty. Dude can take a pounding.
17 and 18 were modified on the cellular level from humans.
It was always about Vegetas pride
I spent so long thinking this form of Vegeta was called Majin Vegeta, when actually the official title is Prine of Destruction Vegeta, which sounds waaaaay more gangsta lol
Majin Vegeta is a fan made nickname cause it's shorter
@@Xizziano I'm a dragon ball OG. I realize this already lol. But a lot of people still don't even know that isn't the actual title of that form.
And the reason android 18 can have kids is they used the dragonballs to make her human again I can't remember which episode they mentioned that in it was just referenced they never showed it
The beginning of the Buu saga, at least from the tournament to when Buu hatched, was kind of a letdown for me. Just a series of the Supreme Kai talking up an enemy as if they were the greatest threat ever, and then Goku or Vegeta just bullying them to death.
Seriously, the Supreme Kai kept acting as if Pui-Pui and Yakon would require one of the Saiyans to sacrifice their life (or Goku's very existence) to have a prayer of beating them, and then he's absolutely amazed when Goku and Vegeta barely put in any effort to annihilate their respective opponents. Even Gohan would have probably bodied Pui-Pui and never broken a sweat.
Cause Supreme Kai doesn't know shit about shit. He thought potara were permanent
@@Xizziano If a Kai is involved, it can be. Mortals, not so much.
@@lordgenerias he said permanent period, as in for both. Gowasu said it wasn't for mortals
@@Xizziano I was referring to the retcon in Super. Yes, East Supreme Kai believed it was permanent. He was wrong. Yet Elder Kai didn't think to mention when Vegito de-fused. Toriyama sure has to improvise a lot when the editors and producers demand he make the lore up on the spot.
Imagine waiting for 7 of years of your life for something. Not just waiting, but preparing for it. Then when it finally does happen, some other BS gets in your way to hold you up and potentially cost you your one chance. I'm sure you'd be pissed to the extreme as well and would do almost anything to make sure that you get what you've been preparing for and end up not wasting years of your life. Although I assume it's without murdering innocent people and damaging property
You went right to the best things in Db
This has a lot of stuff cut out
Vegeta almost ended the buu saga early. If they unleashed buu now he would be dead. Fat buu would have to face goku vegeta and Gohan.
He could always have just absorbed one of them if he started struggling against them.
@LordMalice6d9 not fat buu. He not the type to absorb ppl. He's too carefree. That's super buu
@@colinnixon7739 Fat Buu seems kind of hard to get a read on. His power seems proportional to how angry he gets similar to Gohan. When he gets angry he dominates his opponent.
My head and neck ache right now got me feeling like majin vegeta
how did yall find the original bruce faulconer Dragon ball z?(the man who made the music)
Haha great video good reactions