Golden Age "Super" Hero
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- In 1941, Quality Comics introduced a superhero named #711. This was five years before the convenience store 7-11 existed but I can't help but say his name the same way. 711 was not a great superhero. Basically, he let himself go to jail for a friend and would tunnel out to fight crime every night... and then go back to jail before the guards checked on him in the morning. Idiot!
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Underneath a lot of stupidity, there’s a cool idea about a vigilante who hides in prison.
Basically Law Abiding Citizen
Poison Brick = Best weapon in comic book history
Far more deadly than the Nail-Bat.
It's rediculously effective
Ultimate Nullifier? Nah, just throw a poison brick! Galactus won't know what hit him. And let's end that Infinity War before it starts!
Too bad he wasn't a hero instead of a villain. He could have trick bricks to throw. His secret identity would be Mason Stone His trick bricks would include a knock out gas brick. A spy camera brick, A boomerang brick (Called of course the Brick A Rang) And his side kick would be Mortar Boy.
@@900milesfromnormal3 Please, by all means necessary, make this happen!
I like how despite the brick leaving no trace everyone knew who killed the guy
How did they know that?
"The first decent thing" he can do is SEND HIS INNOCENT FRIEND TO PRISON. I question 711's choice in lifelong friends.
True Like Why I Mean If He's A Lawyer Get Him On Parole Or At Least Get Them To Allow Him To See His Wife And Newborn Before Going To Prison In A Legal Way Like Come On Dan Be Smart
This was fun! Several laugh-out-loud moments. I know videos like this may not be as popular as the ones that cover big name creators and popular characters, but I love these oddities.
Thank you! It helps keep me interested doing the weirder, lesser known stuff.
The clock's first appearance was cover-dated Nov 1936. Even if we estimate a publishing date of September 1936 (because cover dates were usually 2 months off), the Phantom's comic debuted in February 17 1936. And the Phantom is definitely a comic hero with a mask.
I mean I get it... the old 'comic book' technicality. But the Phantom was being published in comic BOOKS too, as early as 1938.
--Andrew S.
(Everyone always forgets the Phantom.)
Sure. And the Scarlet Pimpernel was a masked hero before that. I get the influences. But I was trying to narrow in on a statistic that's generally accepted. First comic book original character with a mask.
The Phantom had a huge fan following here in India. Most of us indian comic nerds know more about him than most american fans.
I never understood the attraction of The Phantom comics. All the stories were contrived and poorly written.
Some hilarious stuff. Whether you’re covering this or the more legitimate, well-known, or serious comics fanfare yours is my new favorite UA-cam channel. Keep up the great work.
That mirror calling card is absolutely dope. I love it.
Contrary to what some comments are suggesting, obviously Dan _didn't_ confess as himself, but took Jake Horn's identity.
Apart from the judge calling him Horn, _Dan_ wouldn't have been sentenced to life - because unlike Jake, Dan wasn't already two strikes down.
You are 100% correct. This is implicitly stated in the comic and video at 5:25. I think some people are so baffled by the bad writing their brains refuse to accept what is in front of them.
Nobody ever mentions this, but Quality really _was_ a quality publisher. Jack Cole, Lou Fine, Will Eisner, Reed Crandall, Chuck Cuidera, Klaus Nordling, Paul Gustavson - that's close to the '27 Yankees of comics art. Sorry to bang this drum (I do it pretty constantly), but besides their high standard of artwork, Quality opened up the comics page like none of their competitors had come close to doing....essentially inventing the splash page as early as 1943. For as long as they published comics after that, Quality provided readers with dramatic splash pages that practically thrust you into the action; this sort of immediacy helped modernize comics which had begun as pretty hidebound versions of entertainment that had been presented far better in the daily and Sunday newspapers. In fact, it's almost impossible to read a few years of Quality Comics from the early/mid-1940s without watching an actual comic-book aesthetic being formed in front of you. I'm still trying to work out the technical details of a Quality splash-page as compared to every other comics publisher of the era; it's as if the Quality artists had a wider canvas to work on.
PS: all of the above has very little to do with a Quality title from 1941, when every comic book looked like every other comic book..... but how often do you get a chance to discuss mostly-forgotten comic publishers who went kablooey 63 years ago?
Thanks for the fun video Chris it was hilarious. I loved the way you did the voices.
I love it. Heroes from a more innocent age. Thank you so much for this video.
You trope videos are great! Most every one I learn about some new artist or author or character (or all three) I haven't heard of before. I love that you went back and looked at some Golden Age stuff. I thought the idea of #731 had some promise, but also some logical flaws as a long term premise. Ibis the Invincible has some pretty cool issues, and I like the Golden Age Blue Beetle, Dan Garrett (my brothers name ;) ) too. Definitely keep doing them!
Thanks, I'll definitely keep it varied up.
I look forward to your trope videos, keep up the good work!
I always appreciate hearing that. As long as people are entertained, I'll keep working at it.
It's quite clear that 711 is a predecessor to Moon Knight, in the sense that he suffers from Multiple Personality Disorder. He only thinks that Jacob Horn is a different person, whereas in reality Horn and Dyce are one and the same man.
one of your best episodes with one of the craziest comics of all time, at least it's still good for a laugh ^^
THat was hillarious! Thanks for another great episode :)
Keep the Golden Age content coming, baby! I can’t get enough.
This concept would actually make a pretty good modern tv property with a few tweaks
It wouldn't be hard to tweak this to make it make sense. And for once you wouldn't have fanboys complaining that you didn't stick closely enough to the original. "They changed it a lot? Oh thank god!"
I laughed way harder than I probably should've at 15:22
My goal is to make people laugh while they drink.
Way to fix this story: All they had to do was say was that after Jack Horn was killed, the Warden and DA found out what Dan had done, and in exchange for a pardon and reinstatment as an assisstant DA, after X-number of years Dan agrees to remain in prison as a spy amongst the prisoners.
Congrats! YOU should have been the writer!
You know,this is an actual treasure trove of good ideas. Original and cool, i would like to see an adaptation.
Loving your content! I came across one of your videos by chance, (one of your videos for Jack Kirby), and was happy I did, your videos are all informative and fun to watch. Have subscribed and am in the process of binge watching! Cheers!
"His banter isnt the best... But at least he's being a dick about it" the best kind of hero there is
I'm going to assume that after this the warden figures out what happened and becomes his assistant in the vigilante game.
9:04 had me rolling XD
711 is the Phantom of the Penitentiary, I guess. Actually a sorta interesting idea.
I dont know why its really funny character brick bat who throw bricks poisoned and the narration was so good
honestly i think with some reworking this character could be really cool, for a long while i've wished i could do a sort of "project superpowers" type thing with 711
So this Assistant D.A. goes to prison for his friend's crime- a crime that is never clearly detailed to the reader- and when his friend dies, rather than clear up the matter himself, he stays in prison. Then, he tunnels his way out of prison (the text balloon from the first panel of the first page indicates that the conversation took place two years ago, so clearly some time has passed). And we're left to wonder- why would Dyce choose to stay in prison?
Since the answer was never given in the comics themselves, I think inference is the best option.
#1. People really **have** forgotten Dan Dyce- The notice in the newspaper lists Jacob Horn as the pedestrian killed in a hit and run. Apparently, when they handed down the life sentence, they retired his name and all records of him were redacted to list Jacob Horn as Prisoner #711. So Dyce's pal was able to resume using his own name and pass it off as coincidence.
#2. Dyce loves taking responsibility- He not only dug a tunnel out of the prison undetected, he also escapes and returns regularly. What sane person does this? One that doesn't appear in a comic book as a vigilante. Like Peter Parker or Bruce Wayne, Dan Dyce has some pathological need to "make things right". If another prisoner was assigned Dyce's cell after his escape, they presumably would have found his tunnel and escaped as well. I mean, it's not like the guards are ever going to find it, right? Such a line of reasoning is incredibly naive, but remember, 'incredibly naive' is Dan Dyce's middle name.
#3. You already got yer dime's worth kid, what more do ya want?!- Self-Explanatory.
The idea of a supervillain named "Brick Bat" using poisonous bricks as weapons because they "don't leave evidence" is the funniest fucking thing in the entire universe. How did they come up with this??
... So, uh, you might be able to argue that the poison bricks don't leave any evidence because they're not poison laced bricks but blocks of poison dust packed into brick form, but... well... before Brick Bat got his "signature" poison bricks, he was already a well known criminal using the Brick Bat alias. Which makes me wonder: Before getting his poison bricks, did he used to just throw normal bricks at people? And does he have any means to make MORE poison bricks, now that he's killed the creator?
7/11 is my birthday. Gotta look this guy up.
I don’t get why they had to complicate the back story with the switching places with the friend thing, when it would have just been easier to just have him be framed. The writer over-complicated his origin to the point that he couldn’t keep track of what the hell was going on.
The guy also wasn't finger printed when he was booked obviously and he went to trial an nobody knew he was the wrong guy either.
Read more comics out loud! THAT WAS AWESOME!!
So Brick Bat care to explain how you intend to recreate the poison after you killed the guy who made it in the first place?
This is a really funny video
Best episode eveeeerrrrr! Too funny. I love the Golden Age stuff.
This is so fucking stupid. THE BRICK BAT!!! OH NO!!! My Bricks! I couldn't stop laughing
Best one yet. Great stuff
From the thumb, I thought Brick Bat was 711. xD
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His costum is just the prison uniform with a blankett as cape covering the number on his back (time 9:20) ...but that means 711 should be his secret identity?
I assume he is in jail as himself. The cops were coming to arrest Jack, and he took the fall as Dan.
This reminds me of Hogan’s Heroes
Comics like these are the reason comic writers used to use pseudonyms when they wrote comics.
Brick bat grandfather of brick frog
Why were they friends who just happened to look alike? Was this written by someone who'd never heard of identical twins?
Now how did he know that???
isn't the comic implying that someone saw jake committing a crime, and if dan takes the fall, they'll point to him as the man they witnessed? so dan wouldn't be pretending to be anyone else when he was convicted, he's just pretending to be the guy who committed a crime as seen by some witness or maybe the cops or something.
Golden Age Rules!!!!
He could get himself off
Mindless entertainment.
I gave you a shout out on my newest video golden age spot light 711 .
It shout be out later today or early tomorrow .
Stay safe .
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For the all go ruthenium
I don't think he switched identities with his friend I think he took the wrap for the crime because Witnesses would agree that it was him since they looked like sewed and Ice was convicted not his friend so he couldn't just switch back after they got. The guy was going to confess
Did you watch the video? At 5:25 the judge convicts Jacob Horn to life imprisonment. He is clearly impersonating his friend. I think you are trying to use logic to explain a poorly written story. LOL
you left out the best part, how the strip ends. #711 is mysteriously murdered in an alley, and the man who finds his remains takes his costume and calls himself 'Destiny', and heads out to solve the crime with a sudden strange ability to be teleported to where a crime is being committed. his strip naturally succeeds #711 but is even less successful ironically. #711's killer never brought to justice but instead confronted by #711's ghost which prompts his leaping out a window to assumed death.
always wanted a Roy Thomas or Grant Morrison follow up to this. there's so much potential for genius to be spun out of this insanity
Better still, the story detailing #711's demise is narrated by his killer, a big dumb goon who makes Brick Bat look like Lex Luthor. (However, IIRC Destiny doesn't actually take up #711's costume, but sticks to everyday suit-and-tie duds.) While today superheroes frequently get slain the moment they don't bring in readers and can even get killed off at their first appearance, #711 was one of the very first in the business to get whacked in the line of duty. (Archie Comics' The Comet would be *the* first, after a brief run that was just as embarrassing as #711's.)
Ultimately,, the spirit of #711 should join up with Sargent Spook and the ghost grandpa from Capt.Fearless.
Wtf xD
I found that whole he must get back to prison before he's caught part hilarious. He already has life in prison lol I guess he fears the electric chair
Gotta admit, no one's gonna suspect the masked hero is actually a guy in prison.
Though using his own prison number as his superhero name reveals him as a first rate moron.
@@jamesoblivion I thought going to jail for someone else did that
Yeah why wouldn't he want a free ride back to the crib?
Brick Bat's costume a cross of Batman, and Green Hornet.
I would love to see people try and reboot this character. It's too bizarre and hilarious to leave alone.
This could actually be very interesting
He would need to be renamed I would choose "812"
711 has to be the nuttiest hero ever, can we have more of you' reading' the comics, it was fun.
I may throw in an extra episode here and there covering more of 711. I want to.
It doesn't just have to be 711, anything funny/weird would do, you have comedic talent. Thanks man.
Yes, more please. This is fast becoming my favourite channel.
@@ComicTropes Would love to see more 711 one of these days. Your Golden Age videos are my favorites. I've made a special playlist of Golden Age CT episodes. 😁
You know how Dan Dyce and Jake Horn look exactly alike? I bet the warden also has an identical friend who sometimes steps in while the warden is off at the race tracks. And as members of the "identical friends" club, Dan Dyce and Fake Warden know each other's secrets. Fake Warden comes up with random assignments for Dan -- "Dan, I'd like to see a flaming bag of dog poo appear on my ex-wife's doorstep" -- and Dan is simply delighted to screw with people's lives without having to do any paperwork.
This... is actually pretty creative
Wait, so... he wanted untraceable poison on a brick... that he'd then throw at people... and those people would die... I'm guessing the crime would still be traced to whomever threw the brick...
Ignez Mouse gone wrong?
HahA! Comic book stories of yesteryears never fail to amuse me. The level of sophistication (or lack thereof), sketchy logic, and a total departure from any kind of "reality" always remind me of simpler times. What passed for good comic book stories could never get made today. Your vids show the evolution of comics in the most entertaining ways possible. Thanks as always for the trips down memory lane.
Still better than modern marvel
@@Gambit771 and DC.,
My mother used to buy Quality Comics in reprint form when l was a kid, so l remember this. They also had a character named Lucky Coyne. Lololol
Reminds me of Merdock from the A-team. Every week he escaped from the asylum and went back at the end of the show
This really puts the Superman/Clark Kent disguise in to perspective
Clark Kent is a brilliant identity. Hiding in plain sight.
Everyone knows that Prisoner #711 and the superhero #711 are not the same person because obviously Prisoner #711 is stuck in prison and not going anywhere. And if he could escape, he'd never come back. So the secret identity is safe... in a dumb, glue-snorting 5 year old sort of way.
I had to watch this one again. So good.
HoodedCobraCommander788 It's one of my favorite discoveries. If I ever have extra time I want to break down some more issues of this.
*Poison bricks™! My one weakness!*
711 = OG
Even back door lil Joe?
"I need to be imprisoned. For my HEROING to work!!" What the hell was in the water back in the 30's and 40's, and where can I get some?
Same
Captain Negativity 🤣🤣
So we have 711 vs Some guy in a Batman Costume that he bought at a 7-11
I love the simplicity of the golden age.
This was a riot. I literally laughed out loud. Brick Bat is the best villain ever. Poison bricks, genius!
"Thank you very much for accepting the charges". Did you call the business card folks collect? *knees were slapped and chuckles were had*
"...this guy could get himself off..."
What kind of comic is this?
Poisoned bricks. It's the only way to be sure.
I can come up with something better about a vigilante hiding in prison off the top of my head: A man is framed for murder. So, He goes to prison. But, he tunnels out to hunt down the person who framed him. So that he can clear his name. So He finds the person who framed him. But in the process, he accidentally kills the person who framed him. So now, there is no one left who can clear his name. So he can either be a fugitive for the rest of his life, or go back to prison. So, he elects to go back to prison. But he keeps the vigilante thing up, so that what happens to him won't happen to anyone else.
I think you're misunderstanding the start. He's not pretending to be Jack, he's still Dan but because they look similar enough Dan was able to say it was he who committed the crime and not Jack. It doesn't really explain it but it makes a lot more sense than your theory that everyone is dumb as well...a brick.
Except dyce is sentenced as jack horner to life in prison, so he was arrested as horner not dyce, then the newspaper stated horner was dead, so yea, jack horner is dead and serving life in prison
He's there for the social activities and the showers 🚿.
I'm honestly now imagining a 7-Eleven themed superhero existing, but it'd be like those old hostess ads but instead the superhero saves the day using slurpees, big gulps, and big bite hot dogs.
I just don't get this obsession with THE SPIRIT! It was very well drawn but storywise, I prefer Eisner's later graphic novels! When it came to gritty, urban crime comics--CHESTER GOULD's DICK TRACY kicked butt all over The Spirit! Not to mention Johnny Craig and Al Feldstein's crime stories over at EC Comics!
BTW
A "HOP HEAD" was a DRUG ADDICT so that was pretty daring for a comic book. Another popular term for same was saying they had "...a monkey on their back!"
He's like the Puri Puri Prisoner, the aggressively gay, incredibly powerful, perpetually naked super hero from One Punch Man. Sort of.
I like that Brick Bat must be monumentally strong to run around the city, wearing a coat full of bricks.
I thought the Phantom was the first to wear the mask.
What if Jacob horn killed Dan dicees wife and child to stay out of prison then this would give 7ll (dan dice) a primary villain… just a thought,
Your Brick Bat voice is hilarious, and spot on! GJ
This super hero makes me think about terrible hot dogs and overdosed coffee. On a side note, Im starting to see why batman is the best detective in comics, everyone else is a idiot. Maybe I should start a business selling glasses there.
I will forever want the crossover we deserve. BIG DIX VS BRICK BAT
Is there a Police Comics reprint in tpb form?
This is to me the most hilarious comic trope ever💯🤣🤣🤣🤣I wish you would do some more old school comics with your narrative’s
The Spirit may have been a good comic book, but holy hell was that movie all kinds of awful
Chris, please do another 711 story. Please!
I found this hilarious. Love your videos. Keep up the good work.
It’s like Shawshank’s Redemption but stupid.
😆 Chris you are way too funny! Please do more on the 711 stories. Or bad tattoos m im begging you!
you kind of sounded like mark hamill when you did the brick bat, was that intentional? lol
sweet channel by the way
David Smith Not intentional. Just doing an "evil voice." I'd be too intimidated to intentionally try to mimic the great Mark Hamill!
Wonder if brick bat inspired brick frog from venture bros at all (beside the obvious one of Frog-Man)
Hold on. Brick Bat kills people with poison bitcks, because he wants to remain undetected, but literally the next day he's on the newspaper.... Then why does he still use bricks?!