Canon RF 85mm F1.2 L USM DS Lens Announcement Video with Rudy Winston

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  • Опубліковано 19 жов 2024

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  • @themjian
    @themjian 5 років тому +18

    Thank you Rudy, for such a great, honest and truthful introduction without any bias like others! Excellent lens!

  • @emmankianga9082
    @emmankianga9082 5 років тому +51

    I have no more kidneys Canon 😕...

  • @skiiizo
    @skiiizo 5 років тому +3

    I always watch you videos... You sir are "formidable" as we say in French ! You are a fantastic story teller and although English is not my primary language I understand everything you say. Bravo and thank you. I wish that we could have a guy like you for the Canon videos in French for our customers...

  • @lioneldude
    @lioneldude 5 років тому +5

    Imagine all the future lenses get a DS version. 70-200 f:2.8 IS DS, 50 f/1.2 DS, 300 f/2.8 IS DS

    • @dadanardi5541
      @dadanardi5541 5 років тому

      yeah imagine the prices, also if we learn from another manufactures, most of them only have one lens with apodization element within their lineup. Sony only have 100mm 2.8 STF GM, Fuji only have 56mm f/1.2 APD. STF = APD = DS, they are the same things.

  • @martinistse
    @martinistse 5 років тому +17

    Canon: *announces new 85mm rf ds*
    Canon: "Dear all the customers who bought the original rf 85mm and sold your organs"
    Customers: "Yes?"
    Canon: "Ha lol"

  • @charlesjames9783
    @charlesjames9783 Місяць тому

    As usually Rudy, you nailed it!

  • @mikewinburn
    @mikewinburn 4 роки тому +2

    I applaud the honesty f this presentation.... if lowlight performance is paramount, get the regular version, if beautiful bokeh is paramount, get the DS version. Was it just me though, in viewing the side by side images - before looking to see which was the DS image, in every case, I selected the non-DS image as favorite? Go figure.

    • @cagf2013
      @cagf2013 4 роки тому

      I came to same conclusions. The DS version looks a little artificial to my eyes

  • @andrearusky
    @andrearusky 5 років тому +29

    actually i like the bokeh from the non-DS lens more 🤷🏻‍♂️

    • @RayValdezPhotography
      @RayValdezPhotography 5 років тому +7

      I don't. It doesnt have that magic.

    • @mariap6271
      @mariap6271 5 років тому

      Ray Valdez Photography agreed

    • @longliveclassicmusic
      @longliveclassicmusic 4 роки тому +2

      Harder lines are more distracting from the subject. Smoother bokeh serves a much more effective purpose. As with all, if I had a few kidneys to spare, it would be mine.

    • @normandavid67
      @normandavid67 4 роки тому +1

      Me too, I do not like the smooth bokeh.

    • @cagf2013
      @cagf2013 4 роки тому +1

      I also prefer the non DS version

  • @AndreadePoloSaibanti
    @AndreadePoloSaibanti 3 роки тому +2

    Hi, I saw your amazing information about the difference btw the Canon 85mm f1,2 lens and the Canon 85mm f1,2 DS.
    I understand that although the DS provide a slightly better bokeh effect, the non-DS allow more light to going through the lens.
    So, for low light conditions the non-DS is better.
    In conclusion I think ??? (but I might be wrong), he DS version better bokeh effect is NOT very noticeable although I see it if we make side by side comparion and so probably the non-DS is better for 99 percect of usage.
    Am I correct on this assumtion?
    I own a Canon R5 body and I do street, landscape, portrait photography.
    Andrea

    • @CanonUSA
      @CanonUSA  3 роки тому +2

      Hi Andrea,
      This really comes down to personal choice and preference. The DS and Non=DS give you two different ways to render the bokeh, out of focus areas of the image. In the DS version out of focus edges are rendered smoother when using wide apertures of f3.2 and wider. Each photographer would have to decide the effect they find more appealing. If capturing images in the lowest of light is most important, the Non-DS lens has the advantage. Ultimately it depends on your photographic style.
      We hope this helps.

  • @rogeryoung3587
    @rogeryoung3587 5 років тому +2

    My shooting requirements cover an even wider range than is provided by these lenses - I'll take one of each please.

  • @jaramony6769
    @jaramony6769 5 років тому +8

    wow i love this lens but price is very high
    please canon i request that make a lens which is budget lens and macro wide and tele I mean 3 in 1 lens

  • @xxjsmoothxx8104
    @xxjsmoothxx8104 2 роки тому

    I'm planning on picking up one of these lenses next week, but it's so hard to choose. Does the DS have the same depth of field as the original RF 85mm 1.2?

    • @CanonUSA
      @CanonUSA  2 роки тому +1

      Hello:
      Optically, the lenses are identical in size, weight and design. The DS version renders the out of focus area differently and apertures f3.2 and wider. As Rudy notes at minute 1:52 in the video, the apparent depth of field is greater on the DS version of the lens. For more specifics, contact our camera team at 1-800-652-2666 Monday-Friday: 9:00 am to 9:00 pm ET, Saturday: 9:00 am to 7:00 pm ET, excluding holidays.
      We hope this helps.

  • @Photographicelements
    @Photographicelements 5 років тому

    Rudy can’t fail!

  • @aperez4198
    @aperez4198 4 роки тому +1

    I'm turned off by the loss of light at f1.2. after watching this video, I would purchase the non-DS version.

  • @user-wj5hc3tp9v
    @user-wj5hc3tp9v 5 років тому

    RUDIII YOU ROCK MAN

  • @santoshsikha1927
    @santoshsikha1927 11 місяців тому

    I have eos r and planning to buy this rf 85mm f 1.2 l usm lens. My requirement is i want to shoot portrait videos for my vlogging. Will this lens give me bokeh effect and blur the background in video shooting ??

    • @CanonUSA
      @CanonUSA  11 місяців тому

      Hi. It sure will! A popular lens option for portrait work and getting great bokeh effects. To help narrow down the right lens for your needs, visit our lens buying guide at: canon.us/3dZ7nYi

  • @PaulKretz
    @PaulKretz 5 років тому +5

    I knew there's no miracles in real world. Ever. *Optics, laws of physics are ALWAYS a compromise.* Yes, a gorgeous bokeh, but it can't be so simple... additional coating... where is this BUT? Where is it? Ah, here it is! A 1.3 stops exposure loss! Now we're talking. P.S. Looking fantastic anyway.

    • @longliveclassicmusic
      @longliveclassicmusic 4 роки тому

      Paul Kretz I mean have you even tried an EOS R as high as 32,000 ISO? It's completely unbelievable.

    • @PaulKretz
      @PaulKretz 4 роки тому +1

      @@longliveclassicmusic No, I'm an ordinary shooter, the best I have is 80D and 5D Classic =) Mirrorless world is only waiting for me... sometime in a while :D

  • @shang-hsienyang1284
    @shang-hsienyang1284 5 років тому

    I wonder how the DS optics would affect the dual pixel autofocus. Would it be slower than the 85mm f/1.2L or the differences would be negligible?

    • @CanonUSA
      @CanonUSA  5 років тому +2

      Hi Shang-Hsien
      There is no difference in the focus speed and accuracy between the RF 85mm F1.2L USM DS lens and the non-DS version. Dual Pixel Auto Focus is not affected in any way when comparing the DS to the non-DS version.
      We hope this is helpful.

    • @shang-hsienyang1284
      @shang-hsienyang1284 5 років тому

      @@CanonUSA Nice to know this valuable information! Thank you!

  • @ih_stallion950
    @ih_stallion950 4 роки тому

    Can this lense be used for night photography? Considering the light loss when shooting wide

    • @CanonUSA
      @CanonUSA  4 роки тому +1

      Hello Awuoth:
      You can certainly use the lens to take images at night. The EOS R and EOS RP cameras will have free firmware updates to allow the cameras to properly meter and set exposure when this lens is attached. As Rudy notes, if your primary requirement is maximum low light performance, then the non-DS version may be the better choice. However, if the special Bokeh rendering is most important, then this DS lens should be considered.

  • @fatherofbirds
    @fatherofbirds 3 роки тому

    I feel like chef John from food wishes is teaching me about this lens.

  • @justinavila1320
    @justinavila1320 4 роки тому

    THIS LENS IS UP THERE AT MEDIUM FORMAT LEN PRICES! IN FACT ITS COST MORE! (I.E Fuji GF 110mm f2 - which is like a 1.4 in DOF).

    • @bildkistl
      @bildkistl 3 роки тому

      It's more like 1.6 in DOF

  • @luismiguelsilva9903
    @luismiguelsilva9903 5 років тому

    Hi. Can you tell me if the new M6II is the M5 Mark II? When Canon realese a true mirrorless APS (like a 90D) ?

    • @CanonUSA
      @CanonUSA  5 років тому

      Hello Luis,
      Currently we do not offer an EOS M5 Mark II camera. Both the EOS M6 Mark II and the EOS M5 cameras are mirrorless units with the APS-C size image sensor. If you have specific questions on either camera our EOS support team is happy to assist you at 1-800-OK-CANON (1-800-652-2666) Monday - Friday 9:00 am to 9:00 pm ET. Saturday 9:00 am to 7:00 pm ET, excluding holidays.
      We hope this is helpful.

    • @luismiguelsilva9903
      @luismiguelsilva9903 5 років тому

      @@CanonUSA thank you for your feedback. But the true is the M6II, has a great and new sensor, but the lcd doens't rotate like the M50, it does not have evf.... i think the 90D /version mirrorless is needed. Thank you.

  • @Aviciiz
    @Aviciiz 5 років тому +1

    A diffusion filter will have the exact same effect, but it does make the entire image a bit softer which I really like

    • @Seitenwerk
      @Seitenwerk 2 роки тому

      Long time ago of course. But just to clarify: No, effect is totally different. A diffusor filter would soften the whole image an bring everything basically out of focus. This technique on the other side will only affect out of focus parts. Everything else stays absolutely sharp. You could attempt to reproduce it in photoshop, but it also wouldn’t lead to the same outcome, as you would only be able to apply effects on areas instead of every single spot

  • @Makta972
    @Makta972 4 роки тому

    Olympus solution for apoduzation effect is way more clever...

  • @mingzhongdai8489
    @mingzhongdai8489 5 років тому +2

    I just need a rf85 1.8...can not afford this one, both the pocket and the muscle.

  • @joelbastian5741
    @joelbastian5741 4 роки тому

    Rudy is actually the best. I want him to sign my 5DIV.

  • @davidwatchesyoutube247
    @davidwatchesyoutube247 Рік тому

    Losing stops is a bummer

  • @likeris2
    @likeris2 Рік тому

    I need without DS 😊

  • @AgnostosGnostos
    @AgnostosGnostos 5 років тому +1

    This lens has an apodization filter inside which is not a really new technology.
    A similar lens with apodization filter is the Sony FE 100mm f/2.8 STF GM OSS.
    Also similar bokeh offer with two aperture diaphragms the α-mount Sony 135mm f/2.8 STF, and the Laowa 105mm f/2 Smooth Trans Focus Lens.
    Canon in 1987 produced a 135 mm f/2.8 SoftFocus lens.

    • @Noeman2009
      @Noeman2009 5 років тому +3

      Did you watch video? It's not a soft focus lens.

    • @AgnostosGnostos
      @AgnostosGnostos 5 років тому

      Google UserX How wrote it is a soft focus lens. I wrote from the beginning that it has an apodization filter inside.

    • @NoahStephens
      @NoahStephens 5 років тому +1

      Achilleas Labrou It’s not a flipping soft-focus lens. He explicitly said so. And it’s obvious from the fact the subject is sharp

    • @rezar4117
      @rezar4117 Рік тому

      Soft focus and smooth trans focus is different, Minolta have 100mm soft focus and canon have 135mm soft focus, Minolta have 135mm stf in canon DS. In Sony is STF. But this not soft focus

  • @jaekim5397
    @jaekim5397 5 років тому +3

    Where is EOS R Pro? This lens requires a better camera...

    • @geko9425
      @geko9425 5 років тому

      No, why?

    • @jaekim5397
      @jaekim5397 5 років тому

      @@geko9425 EOS R's sensor and other functions are not good enough to receive all the data from RF lenses..They need Pro level camera for RF lenses

    • @geko9425
      @geko9425 5 років тому

      @@jaekim5397 Aha. And you are the first one in the world who discovered this? You are a joke

    • @jaekim5397
      @jaekim5397 5 років тому

      No..I keep pushing them all the way...Do you have any problem with that?

    • @geko9425
      @geko9425 5 років тому +2

      @@jaekim5397 You arent pushing anything because your claim isnt true and obviously stupid. "The EOS R's sensor ... isnt good enough to receive all the Data from RF lenses". You dont know what you are talking about. 90-95% of the Data comes from the Image Sensor, Post Processing and the AF system. So the sensor isnt capable to receive this 5% from the RF Lens? You are a joke

  • @ZoyaKhan-pk4nv
    @ZoyaKhan-pk4nv 5 років тому +10

    I have no money

    • @jaramony6769
      @jaramony6769 5 років тому +2

      yes
      this is big problem

    • @73alansetiawan
      @73alansetiawan 5 років тому +2

      Hire a truck and drive it and hit to ATM Machine. Then you go you will get cash Lol.......*please dont do it just fantasy for joke.

    • @ZoyaKhan-pk4nv
      @ZoyaKhan-pk4nv 5 років тому

      @@73alansetiawan haha

    • @mingzhongdai8489
      @mingzhongdai8489 5 років тому

      Canon: It is your problem, not ours. lol

  • @666Maeglin
    @666Maeglin 5 років тому +6

    it's win win due to the 2x the chance of people shelling out a ton of money :-D

  • @MrCgs60649
    @MrCgs60649 4 роки тому +2

    Just call it a 1.2 to 1.4 then

  • @DanJam
    @DanJam 3 роки тому

    This reminds me of the so called micro contrast you get from Zeiss and Leica but with af.

  • @PA-gt1dd
    @PA-gt1dd 3 роки тому

    I wish Someone WITH The DS version would show us how it performs in low light. I mean big deal 1.3 stops of light on paper. Most make it seem like the lense will simply shut off if the light isn't bright. Let's say the inside of a church at a wedding, of night time outside. Does anyone here have this lense/ If so how do you feel about its low light performance?

    • @CanonUSA
      @CanonUSA  3 роки тому

      Hello:
      You may want to ask this on our Canon Forum where users post and reply to each other’s questions. Here is a link: Canon.us/69l98. Also doing a search on UA-cam for “compare rf85mm f1.2 vs 1.2 DS” will bring up a multiple video comparisons and samples.
      We hope this helps.

    • @Seitenwerk
      @Seitenwerk 2 роки тому +3

      I have the DS version as well as other RF L lenses. The „loss“ is actually pretty irrelevant as long as you are not shooting as complete pitch black situations. 1.3 stops are a difference, but a small one. ISO raise is not a problem with R cameras and adjusting the shutter speed a bit will also compensate. Plus you may shoot in raw anyway so there is more than a enough room to raise brightness.
      On the other hand the DS bokeh is absolutely unique. It’s hard to find images on the internet showing it in real life situations but I am noticing it nearly every time. From outdoor to indoor shoots, this thing is a masterpiece. Especially when you have situations with a busy background (think about portraits with a lot of foliage and light), it will soften that too, making the overall image more appealing and smooth.
      I guess it really depends what you are shooting. Are you a wedding photographer who’s shooting time is often at the late night parties? Maybe the non DS version would fit you for that little edge in light gain. But don’t forget that f1.2 will also produce a very shallow DOF. Which may be something that you can’t use in many situations which would make the possible light gain obsolete.
      I usually shoot at times were there is more than enough light even at late night weddings.
      In addition, especially for photographers who shoot portraits at daytime, the light loss is actually a big benefit! Why? Because of you want to use f1.2 for that nice bokeh, you will probably struggle with to much light and require a ND filter to compensate. The DS light „loss“ at f1.2 might give you exactly the „loss“ you might need to still be able to shoot without requiring a DS filter.

  • @UNNUNNA
    @UNNUNNA 5 років тому

    ชอบusm

  • @zubair.asyraf
    @zubair.asyraf 4 роки тому

    The effect is similar to canon sumire primes..

  • @garbygarb31
    @garbygarb31 5 років тому +1

    Okay why can yall make lenses but release 3 year old cameras?

  • @yixuz42
    @yixuz42 5 років тому +5

    1.3 stop light loss!

    • @geko9425
      @geko9425 5 років тому +1

      And? Whats your problem?

    • @shang-hsienyang1284
      @shang-hsienyang1284 5 років тому

      Sony loses 2 stops.

    • @yixuz42
      @yixuz42 5 років тому +1

      GE KO Is there a problem of saying what canon is saying in their own video? Are you pretending 1.3 stop loss of light is nothing?

    • @yixuz42
      @yixuz42 5 років тому

      Shang-Hsien Yang thanks. I didn’t know much about DS lens, so I’m quite shocked. I also like how honest Canon is in their own commercial video.

    • @geko9425
      @geko9425 5 років тому

      @@yixuz42 If you put a anodization lens in it, there is always a light loss. Everybody knows this and therefore Canon has to be honest.
      But I assume that some people dont get it that 1,3 Stop light loss isnt affecting depth of field.
      So its basically a f1.2 lens with a t-stop of 2.0. Nothing wrong with that

  • @ryonatkinson6637
    @ryonatkinson6637 5 років тому +3

    4:00 thought that was Jared Polin

  • @JaidiDuming
    @JaidiDuming 8 місяців тому

    But I like 85mm f1. 2 Non-Ds bokeh..

  • @caldera878
    @caldera878 5 років тому

    I'm just going to smolder Vaseline all over a UV filter instead.

  • @sols9449
    @sols9449 4 роки тому +1

    It’s also ridiculously over priced! I’m sure it’s magical though.

  • @kaiwestensee
    @kaiwestensee Рік тому

    DS looks more artificial in my opinion - I love the non DS-Version and I don’t like the light loss

  • @DavidFernandez-sc5ws
    @DavidFernandez-sc5ws 5 років тому +2

    So. Your M mount is dead??????

    • @DavidFernandez-sc5ws
      @DavidFernandez-sc5ws 5 років тому

      @Stefanie Daniella I get tired of having to use adapters. On Canon's website there is only 6 native lenses that can mount on my M50. 6.

    • @lioneldude
      @lioneldude 5 років тому

      More or less from the number of RF lenses that keeps getting released.

    • @geko9425
      @geko9425 5 років тому

      @@DavidFernandez-sc5ws its Not a Problem, Sigma is releasing for the M mount and Canon will also do, because its now clear whats the future

    • @TheJudge064
      @TheJudge064 4 роки тому

      @@lioneldude rf lenses don't work on ef-m cameras.

  • @janplexy
    @janplexy 2 місяці тому

    DS produces bokeh that looks like fake gaussian blur bokeh.

  • @MimouFOOD
    @MimouFOOD 2 роки тому

    it does not worth 650 euros for différence

  • @Koi-Koi-Koi
    @Koi-Koi-Koi 5 років тому +4

    the lense and DS is amazing great - your prices for this one and other RF lenses are nevertheless true madness !!! sorry!! you only want rich people as customers?

  • @mr.h3603
    @mr.h3603 5 років тому +3

    I love that these lenses are super expensive! It means I'm a cut above the rest and that not every Tom, Dick and Harry is going to have the same. Oh, forgot to mention about bragging rights too 🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩

  • @eliaswitt9086
    @eliaswitt9086 3 роки тому

    Didn’t know Dr. Phil had a brother

  • @nicolasauproux
    @nicolasauproux 5 років тому +1

    we dont want another 3K $ 85mm. We want a RF 1,4 with IS.

    • @mariap6271
      @mariap6271 4 роки тому

      Nicolas Auproux stop being cheap go get a sigma

  • @mohammedaltai6528
    @mohammedaltai6528 4 роки тому

    This lens work with sony camera

    • @CanonUSA
      @CanonUSA  4 роки тому +2

      Hello Ali,
      Canon had designed and engineered the RF 85mm f/1.2L USM DS lens to work with Canon full frame mirrorless cameras, with the RF lens mount. Currently these cameras include the EOS R and EOS RP.
      I hope this is helpful.

    • @mohammedaltai6528
      @mohammedaltai6528 4 роки тому

      @@CanonUSA think you so much

  • @angelmusical70
    @angelmusical70 5 років тому

    Bokalicius

    • @CanonUSA
      @CanonUSA  5 років тому +1

      Bokeh for days!