The BIG ISSUE I have with Sonar Studios.....
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it feels like sonar studios wants to do something different than cgs's or dragon adventures, but has no idea how to do it.
For anyone unaware: the battle pass for cos has been cancelled due to the community bashing on the devs.
The issue I have with the games is that they all seem to focus on collection, even griffins destiny despite being a roleplay game, hardly anyone roleplays on it and it feels more like "come display the fact that you have better items than anyone else!" I played GD when it was in beta, I submitted accessory ideas (the mushroom growths and mushroom hat) and because they couldn't pay everyone who submitted ideas that got into the game they decided on an exclusive set that is only tradeable by people who got in, yet for some reason, I cannot trade it, and I think it's something to do with "if you don't continuously submit ideas you're considered inactive and wont get the artist role" or something, I might be wrong but thats what it feels like, so now I have 10 of the same set that I cant do anything with.
I can't keep up with all of the collections and events, I barely had enough currency in both Cos and GD to buy any halloween stuff, it's exhausting and I've lost the motivation to play both of them almost entirely and thats why I've been 'inactive' and lost my ability to trade the set, is because admittedly, both games are exhausting to play. It feels like if you don't have money then you can't get anywhere in both games.
The one thing I would want in Animal Kingdom? No trading, whatsoever, and if it kills them not to have trading in one game then at least have it in another server like how they do it with Cos, because the second trading came into GD its been the main focus instead of roleplaying.
I don't know if I'm gonna play animal kingdom, I guess its depending on what direction it goes in, I do find it a bit odd that the games in alpha and already has a robux set which is literally just golden recolours, but eh.
Ouch. .
(I Gotta agree with you, the Halloween event was exhausting)
THIS!! I agree with literally everything you said. The games are just exhausting, and I think Sonar Studios knows that when they add trading to their games, people become obsessed with currency and owning things way more, so Sonar can make more money if they add trading systems to their games. It’s so frustrating how obvious it is that it’s a cash grab and how many people fall for it. It ruins the games, ESPECIALLY GD which, imo, had no business including trading at all. It’s a roleplay game! Why does the trading system and customization need to be so based on how rich you are? Don’t even get me started on the crates. They’re just glorified, overcomplicated blind boxes. And I think everyone knows that blind boxes are just a cash grab. They want you to keep buying and buying and buying and getting frustrated that you only get duplicates until you finally cave and use robux to buy currency. It’s so scummy.
Another thing I noticed is how CoS is extremely generous and Dragon Adventure is still not very friendly to beginners, in addition to the enemies and the way of leveling being extremely boring and tiring.
@@chickennuggetpaw Exactly, a ROLEPLAY game does not need gambling gachas or trading because as soon as those are added they are ALL the players focus on, every single time I played it there were tons of players just AFK farming, of course there are the few role-players around, but it feels like it's just a constant 'collect this, collect that, buy this, buy that, give us money.'
I said in my original comment that I wasn't sure If I was going to play Animal Kingdom, and that was correct, because I have quit every single Sonar game entirely except for Horse life, I found they are ALL exhausting to play, I was so burnt out on these games that just thinking about playing them pissed me off
in my experience the COS community is extremely toxic, so much so that I refused to talk in their discord server, GD is leaning too much towards collection and gambling for my taste, the events are exhausting, and I quite honestly can't stand the company and some of their decisions. Of course, these are all just personal opinion, and it might be different for others, but for now I can't see myself playing COS or GD ever again, of course, Sonar couldn't give less of a fuck if I played or not, but it's good to talk about my experiences.
@@ryan07407 I can agree to this, When I played dragon adventures which honestly wasn't a lot, it did not feel very beginner friendly at all, and I got bored very quickly.
I’m sick and tired of Sonar studios turning “roleplay” games into boring trading and collecting games. You can do it sonar studios, you can make a game WITHOUT trading. It isn’t a necessary feature. You can do it sonar studios, you can work on more features, fixing things, INSTEAD of pushing out a bunch of creatures. You can do it sonar studios, you just choose not to.
Sonar studios at this point are just pushing out games they know will make them money, and land on the front page, even for just a bit. And that’s ANNOYING, Sonar has potential, but they just don’t gaf anymore.
I love their new horse game but I just know it’s gonna end up like the rest. Which sucks because it’s a good game. All of them WERE good games.
I swear to god sonar studios believes each of their games needs to be very grindy, involve trading, and also collecting.
but its not their fault ppl dont rp in it...
@@Azrael_And_Val-chan people DID use to rp in griffins destiny. But slowly stopped and started just sitting around and making avatars after trading n stuff was added. Sure it’s not their fault but I mean trading and some of the other features weren’t necessary. And added to people slowly weaning off rp.
Griffins destiny would’ve been fine without trading.
Idk my comment was more so pointing out how sonar studios just repeats 24/7. All their games are collecting and trading. And to me it’s just getting annoying. I feel like they should make a game NOT involving that for once.
To be completely honest, I'm starting to get burnt out with Sonar Studios
They release a lot of creatures that often end up UNOBTAINABLE to a casual player like me, and it bums me out. I like survival games that include grinding for creature gachas (like CoS) but I don't like CoS itself because I can't keep up with the sheer pressuring amount of creatures and terrible economy. I'm just waiting for your game (Dragons Island) to release to finally let go of CoS because it's the only type of games I like on Roblox so far...
Yet Sonar Studios just really doesn't know how to not make everything pay-to-win or pay-to-play and it's... Bad
Even better now they plan to make a battlepass for Creatures of Sonaria
@@driakunapontinox7754 don't get me started on that, it's terrible
Battle pass time because devs love grinding :D
You explained exactly how i feel abt sonar studios
I CANT WAIT FOR THE DRAGON ISLAND GAME TOO. She’s doing so well on it so far,I’m so hyped for it. I bet I’ll play i5 and quit cos and sonar studios and stuff
A big problem with sonar studios is how CoS works
This game has put a unbelievable amount of stress on me and now they are introducing battle passes??? And removing weekly updates??? No just no I’m quitting and moving to a promising game called harp isles when it releases
Give me your creatures if you actually quit lol
BATTLE PASSES?? what the FUCK?? no bruh. ive been playing this shit 2 MONTHS after beta came out. i swear bro i pray they dont.
@@ryanthomas3097they haven’t t made a battle pass and they most likely wont
@@jahrinfari2569I don’t think he wants to give your greedy self his stuff
Also the battle pass thing got cancelled due to the community’s backlash
My main problem with COS and Sonaria Studios is over saturation of content. What ultimately drove me out of the games was that if I ever took a break I would never be able to recover. I once had almost every creature in COS, back in like 2020. So many creatures have been made unattainable due to price, rarity, or just how many other creatures you can roll on the gachas. The statistics of trying to get a singular creature that you want is astronomical.
In terms of the whole studio, I think they’re also suffering from having too many ideas to make in too little of a time. They need to learn how to pace their development in order to appease developers and the players. As players, I don’t think we need a new update every two months. Make an update every 3-6 months, and that would be enough for me.
Another thing they need to learn is having original ideas. A good example is the Puffwump looking EXACTLY like the Leallynasaura from All Yesterdays.
reducing the amount of content is a bad idea, you are clearly a casual player but the base of the game is the majority made up of daily active players as they are still in school and That's a lot of free time for farming
@@ryan07407 it just feels predatory overall, both towards casual players and towards the game programmers and artists, a lot of designs feel creatively bankrupt and more time in the oven could prove beneficial, and also create more hype around creature release dates. I feel like waves of new creatures every month or so would be better than a new creature every week. I’d think of it like Pokemon releasing a new set of Pokemon with each gen rather than a slow trickle of one or two per week. It would also be ok for weekly creatures if this wasnt a gacha game. With the luck element, it just gets exhausting and unsustainable, and most people who would otherwise be interested in the game can’t keep up.
the cos economy sucks rn and the battle pass is going to be horrible. sonar needs to stop making grindy and p2w games.
As if that’ll ever happen tbh. That’s why I just the play legacy version
This is why I quit creatures of sonaria. It's just a cashgrab. If you want to do the world a favor, stop playing the games.
its not i think your just lazy to grind in survival
@@shadowglitch9846it’s hard to grind when the community sucks and you have to be a UA-camr or spend a ton of robux to actually have any fun. The community has turned the game into glorified VRchat, and it’s hard to enjoy a “survival game” when nobody is doing what they’re supposed to, and if you try to attack anybody then you get called a koser and all of the sudden the entire server is after you like its manhunt for eating some rat that takes 10 minutes to regrow
@@shadowglitch9846cos is a be rich or die game and I absolutely hate it. It's such a pay to win and dumpster fire of a game and the community is toxic and there are always people kosing because they never got attention so they get attention with being annoying asf.
Thing is, they have a sonaria studios disc server, where its has a directory to all the discord servs other games they made like, gd, da, cos, you get the jist.. but its not just those games, from what I picked up they also are in partnership/own another roblox group (Twin atlas) that creates games that they work on, that conclude of:
Winds of fortune, robloxian high school, world zero, atlas arcade, drive world and sword burst 3.
So sonar studios doesn't just work on these creature or animal games that we know and love, but also others.. it kind of puts you (or maybe just me) in questioning if theyre really just and indie game development studio or are actually *eligible to be considered a company*
in reality sonar studio is a subdivision of atlas
The only thing I hate is how the animals have hardly any movement. All the effort was put in the t-rex
they also abandoned a lot of games like Dino ranchers, Feline's destiny, Tasty farms ( which had a cool concept ) and possibly Sunny Shores.
And adventure realms
I think for animal kingdom needs to not touch anything dark or horrific. They had a good start with animal kingdom being a light hearted game with the ability to fight and role play but they are starting to get darker and darker with designs and creatures that probably dont need to be in game
It's Roblox.. There's really nothing "dark" about any of the creatures. At most, there's creatures that look like predators and that's about it.
When I noticed Animal Kingdom, I was like "oh, another animal simulator fighting uh... numbers go up gameplay" and then I noticed it was made by Sonar Studios so I thought to myself "oh? It must be a good game then, mustn't it?"
It's pretty bad.
I'm a Dragon Adventures enjoyer and I played COS for a little bit, but it wasn't as much fun for me as DA. I'm not bothered by the fact that the games are focused of collecting. I love collecting stuff! But I also like gameplay. Quests, playing like for myself. Animal Kingdom is just grinding. It's just grind, watch number go higher, gameplay! The animal models are good, because it's a Sonar Studios game. The Werewolf they recently released is nice and fun. The Snow Leopard... it's fine, that's why it's my main animal. But besides all that the game, gameplay wise is very... it's just any other animal simulator whatever game, but with Sonar Studios' graphics. There's not much to do and I suspect people are gonna get bored of it quick. Besides, it's supposed to be a roleplaying game. I haven's seen people really roleplaying. Folks are just running around pointlessly, collecting stuff and grinding. I mean I'm also not really roleplaying in the game, because I'm that type of a person. But it's just. A very weird game they made. COS was different than other Roblox games. DA was different than other Roblox games, and now we have Animal Kingdom, which is... a lot like Roblox games that already exist. And that's disappointing.
yea Da and cos more fun that AK. AK dont have much to do.
I feel like Sonar is just burning out their selves and they just want the extra money. I find it really sad considering the fact I’ve been playing their games for years now and I wish they can focus on their 2 games.
i agree, they make so many games and they dominate the platform, but all their games are lack luster. All their updates leave you to be desiring more. They have all these devs, but they cant make a consistently good game.
Im a long time player of dragon adventures. I bought VIP. I REGRET IT! And their newer horse game, I love it, but i know its going to be mostly a cash grab.
Sonar Studios needs to focus on quality, not quantity.
I just feel so bored in griffins destiny nowadays , there updates are one or two new accessories or body parts and that’s it. No map updates , no world updates. I just don’t feel like playing anymore because there is just not much too do especially when it comes to the worlds , it doesn’t give me motivation too rp and yes you can make morphs or ocs over and over again but it that gets boring over time. 😕☹️😔
From what ive found is they start off great the games being fun however the issue is that they turn into collection games because it turns into whatever the players like but overfloods it with then not focusing on gameplay to even it out (aka dragon adventures players wanted more dragons thus they added a ton of dragons) and so on
Another issue I have with Sonar Studios is, like another commenter said, CoS and the amount of creatures and their unobtainability. For the whole time the game has been released, they've been constantly putting out new creatures. Some of them are good and worth putting in - a lot of them feel very samey and like they don't add much. I understand any disagreements on this but there is another issue I've found when I moved to a rural area is just how hard it is to even load the game up. For old, slow, or even computers with less than ideal internet access, it becomes a nightmare, even when my internet is good enough for other roblox games. The game just feels so bloated in a lot of ways. And I don't think they'll change anything about it, but still. It's frustrating.
The devs have to stop releasing so many creatures each week in CoS they should work on mechanics bcs the game is buggy. I like animal kingdom as a game (i like collector games) but yes i agree it was rushed. Also before the recode of CoS it had its own look to the game but with the recode it started looking like dragon adventures and i dont like it personally it doesnt look unique no more. And i agree they rush the updates especially in CoS and focus on the main problem that is not the lack of creature because cos has like 300+ creatures for now and they frl need to chill out with the new creature releases. For an examle Malgamation's Island is a good game tho not so popular but it has 4x less creatures than cos but they have cool and advanced mechanics but also this game is like North Korea when u get caught for some stupid thing by staff but overall the game is nice and CoS needs to take notes on what makes a game fun to play.
Cos is goin to have a battepass💀
Id love to hear your opinion on Horse Life if you could do a video on that?
Wait....WHAT? ik it seems like they didnt put "effort" but in my opinion they did i think it has much effort
I found a bug with the game where if you force close out the game on console and go back in ( takes a few tries ) but then you can kill everything in a 20 mile radius with one bite lol. I’ve been using it to grind
hey Late Kate!
I have a question,
see I tried to confront Sonar studios with the theft of "Undercity" from world of warcraft, and I would like to ask you to do something like my video about that, because I tried to confront them but I only got made fun of and mocked, and repeated things that I have cleared in my video, and nobody even cleared up of it, and since I'm a small channel nobody really could see my video, which is why I ask you to post it instead, it would do a big help to expose Sonar studios for their actions,
the movement system mainly TURNING
I'm so glad someone bigger in this community is finally talking about this. It's felt so annoying.. Sonar Studios fell off (in my opinion) when they started making updates on CoS almost everyday it seemed !! Jokes aside, I see the reason you want to update weekly, but you add SO much content in such a small time frame it just seems so overwhelming. Their economy is also horrid. ALL of their games are pay to win. I've been playing CoS and Griffin's Destiny since their betas, and when they were just starting out? It was really good. CoS had a good community back then. Updates weren't rushed. We weren't being force-fed random creatures every week. And just like you said, their workers, their developers? It seems like they atleast have to feel a little bit of pressure put on them to put out all these new updates for FOUR games now. Not only with all this, they constantly put paywalls on EVERYTHINGGG. All their games are pay-to-win, and it works. They rack in so much money because of this. It's so sad to see the fact that people do not realize putting stress on making an update weekly with pretty much the same creatures, maybe just a little bit different does not make your game any better. I feel as if they took the time to ACTUALLY put effort and think about the updates, plan them out nicely and give their players some breathing time with updates it would actually be a bit better. (Not that they aren't putting effort into these models, coding, etc, I'm just saying you need to put THOUGHT into these.) Everything just seems so rushed. The games feel like they don't have any love put into them anymore, and like I said, it's just like its a quick cash grab, push out some updates weekly and call it a day.
I like CoS , it's a bit too grindy but as a normal fan and not a frequent one ... id like to say theres a function called ''trial creatures'' they cheap and makes you play all as the creature untill you die , if you're not happy with it go play another game and let the devs do whatever they want to HIS game.
Hey I’m commenting later cause rewatching this video and yes I agree with this opinion but thank sonar for making horse life, great game
I feel like Animal Kingdom will be a cash-grab, but hey. I can see it having potential in roleplay. Imo it's like an improved version of Animal Life: Forest RP. Other than that, not too impressed
I am so glad someones talking about this. Sonar Studios has become a money grab, 100%. Like, i know that roblox taxes creators but *come on,* the tax shouldn't be an issue for them at this point seeing as they feel the need to put a price tag on everything. and it works! people actually spend money on their items.
Creatures of Sonaria i feel used to be a totally inspired alien survival game, until they started pumping out more and more creatures that dont need to be in the game at all, some that are rather uninspired like the sweets gacha. These new games they've come out with aren't fun and they ALWAYS have to have gambling, which is frustrating.
Sonar studio also has a problem with coming up with ideas too. Dragon adventures and creatures of sonaria share very similar creatures. For instance, magmip and fellisio next to eachother. Just look.
Personally I feel like they just want to spread their range and sometimes you have a great game idea, but that same game idea just doesn’t become as popular as the previous games😅
As a griffin lover and a RPer I was so excited for GD just to be disappointed at it just being a trading game..
The things that game development studios are doing now is straight up tragic. thankfully they dont speak for all games as some like Prior extinction on here and stuff like Baldurs gate have still put in the hard work that seems to be more and more scarce as time goes on. 😪
Ello
While I like AK it feels a bit.... Dull because it just feels like a slightly better simulator game
I HAVE ISSUE BC I DONT KNOW HOW TO UN IN OC
I just faced recently the most worst thing to happen today when I was playing their newest game Horse life normal day enjoying talking to others on the discord when suddenly WITHOUT WARNING I was muted randomly. At first I was confused and went to check what it was that was wrong and it was my About Me on discord and I was like alright yeah I'll change that. I sent through modmail to change it and NOTHING HAPPENED and when for a few hours (pretty much the whole day) later I messaged onto the serv thinking I was unmuted FINALLY and then straight after 2 messages BAM muted again? but why? I don't understand why they don't put thought and more trial through their trial mods but I cannot stand even just one wrong move they make to do everything wrong. Like I want to know what things I do wrong. Not no warning and mute/ban me out of nowhere I can't enjoy a game with this. 😞I have played all three of their big games now and this is the first time this happened towards me.
I was playing animal kingdom, and i lost my level on 4,000. I got kinda annoyed lmao
Same, I got level 12k and almost all the wolf and fox skins but when it came out I lost all of it :/
hey is hunters of daimona cancelled?
Probably
Sonars are goin to put CoS to hole where DA is right now, because they want to add battlepass. And its gonna be just boring, because they gotta add only battlepass creatures, and sonaria will just die.
PLEASE SONAR STUDIOS THINK ABOUT THE FACT THAT IF U ADD BATTLEPASS TO COS GAME IS GONNA DIE AND BECOME BORING, PLEASE, NO
I'm leaving roblox for ark
You can't join the group to PLAY the games like tf
The entire studio is a problem, over the past few years they've become increasingly toxic and money hungry. They ignore the outcry of what fans they have left and their once completely free to play games and now become totally pay to win and exploits FOMO to the fullest. For example dragon adventures was once perfectly fine and you could easily get missing dragons and accessories then the revamp hit and now it's looks and plays like one of those micro transaction fill mobile games. And why they know how toxic they've allowed their fandom to become they pay no mind to it and there has been evidence that they like it and encourage the toxcicity.