Hobart 210MVP Welder: First Looks
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- Опубліковано 6 лют 2025
- I upgraded from a 120V Hobart 140 to this 120/240V Hobart 210MVP (Multi-voltage plug) MIG welder. Here I unbox it, set it up and use it for a few weeks. I give my (non professional) opinions of it and critique it's operation and controls.
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nice rig.... I did the cry ones , and got the largest single phase 230 volt made.. at that time. the Ironman 250
no regrets and zero issues . and its over 20 years old now. Ive never hit the duty cycle on it.
Nice shop you got there. You have some serious welds. I'm not surprised that the thermal overload protection kicked in. Also, the odor is definitely a sign of pushing the welder to the limit. You don't want to reach the duty cycle on a regular a basis. It shortens the machine's life span. Try the HOBART 500574 rated at 60% duty cycle. This welder is exceptionally good for type of welds you're doing. Nice video and thanks for sharing.
Thanks 👍
I have a machine like this one and like it quite well after about seven years, as it has offered zero problems.
Grate job I just recently purchased the same machine ,just got the Hobart spool gun for sale and aluminum so I received a lot from your video,Thank you from PJ
Try feeding the ground cable through the hole in the clamp handle, then onto the stud. The hole will act as a strain relief. Hobart, Miller and Lincoln are all good welders. 30% duty cycle is a little low but what it means is that you can weld 3 minutes out of 10 minutes. I use an old Millermatic 200 but started out with a 225 Lincoln buzz box. I recently picked up a Miller Syncrowave 250 that I am eager to get up and running. I need to run a dedicated power source that's 220 volt 100 amp. lights in my neighborhood are going dim every time I strike an arc. Don't sell yourself short, from what I see your welds are pretty good.
Looks like a pretty honest review of this veteran person!
I own this and have the spool gun also. Very surprised you hit the duty cycle, mine has never done that and has been used on site with the hot sun beating down being used extensively and never stops. Again, very surprised this did that.
Very nice welder sir, as a welder myself, you will find that ALL MIG welders are CV [constant voltage] meaning it will produce the amperage automatically to meet the settings of wire speed and voltage. The large industrial inverter MIG welders [300 amp and up] will have a digital amperage display[only while welding] but again no amperage pre-set due to being a CV not a CC [constant current] machine which is what Stick and TIG machines are.
Thanks for the info. I had no idea. I'm still thinking stick welder, obviously. So more wire speed equals higher current because of better conductivity from wire to work? You see, I need to take a welding class. Clearly.
@@woodandmetalshoptime8048 the higher the WS and/or V the higher the amperage up to the limit of the machine.
I bought one of these earlier this some really nice welder. No problem at all.
I like what you did with the bogie side plates. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Oops! That's what happens when the dozer recording is running 6 weeks ahead of the publishing schedule and these side videos are closer to real time, maybe only a couple weeks delay.
I'm looking to buy my first 'hobby' welder. Thanks for the review.
I retired from farming and am in the process of a deep cleaning of my shop. Finding stuff I lost 30 years ago. And at least a dozen 10mm sockets LOL
I moved from my old shop of 35 years to this new shop in 2015. I know what you mean. The guys I hired to move my stationary tools had fun with my 800lb planer. LOL. I told them to bring some rigging.
Current is controlled mostly by wire speed on these machines, voltage is actually controlled on the power setting, higher voltage to run hotter. If you get into larger machines they will run up to 30 or more volts. At 23-24 volts is when you start to get into spray transfer, which has its place for faster work on thick metal, 3/8, 1/2, 1 inch plate. These are what the big machines do differently than the little ones.
These are good machines but they are meant for short circuit mig, not spray transfer, nothing wrong with that and for the price it does exactly what it is supposed to and honestly better than most of the other machines that claim the same.
To get into machines that run higher voltage/amperage you will start to see the real cost of big welders. You can either go inverter powersource and wire feeder or get a big transformer machine like a millermatic 252 that will run high volts and up to 300 amps I believe. That is why you start to see voltage readouts on those machines.
As a matter of interest - I was watching a movie last night - Half Tracks in sand... the Drive and follower ? wheels were both high in the air and the and these Idler wheels were down in the sand with the track. Interesting application.
My drive and idler wheels will be elevated a bit, a few inches, in the interest of gaining ground clearance, unlike real dozers where they are essentially flat. Tanks do this even more, presumably to handle terrain better.
My welder regulators I bleed all the gas out of them until they read zero everytime I get done using my welder and I've had those same gas valves for over 20 years and they look and work like brand new yet.
Good job my friend !!!! 👍👍 I have the same welder>>>>>>>
Heat will never be a problem for you IF you stay in your duty cycle. I'm not certain on the 240, but the 140 has a 20% duty cycle. That means you can weld 2 minutes out of 10.
The reason for the duty cycle is because you weld out of a capacitor. When the capacitor is empty you need to stop welding. If you continue past that point you will burn the welder up very quickly.
Think of the capacitor as a cup of coffee. When the cup gets empty you need time to refill it. If you plan to weld quarter and three eights often you need a 100% duty cycle machine or the duty cycle will drive you nuts. Thanks for the great videos and very best of luck to you.
Thanks for the video. Nice Dog!
Wondering how your review would be now after a year. That is thick material you were working on in this video. Hoping the burning smell was not the boards frying. Can you give a brief comment on your usage and longevity at this point. Thanks
I'm very happy with this welder. It's been flawless and I put it through a lot. I'd buy it again.
Frank mig welders are constant voltage stick welders are constant current that's why the dial is for voltage. You can buy a CC/CV machine but they are thousands. I'm a boilermaker.
Enjoyed watching Frank!
Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks!
That was easy to watch. Thanks
You're welcome
What were your reasons for choosing Hobart over other brands? We’re you looking specifically at mig wire feeders only?
I understand the professional vs hobbyists thinking and the pricing tiers, but what sold you on Hobart specifically?
I have a 120V hobart handler 140 that has always been reliable, and Hobart stuff is stocked at my local Tractor Supply. So parts and accessories are readily available nearby. A good experience with existing welder, local parts, and reasonable pricing made the decision. Yes, I was looking for a MIG welder exclusively.
nice Home shop!
Thanks!
Love you shop. How awesome. what state are you located in? Would love to come visit you for a tour !! I'm a dentist by trade, but find myself building and tinkering as a way to relieve stress.
When you stated you will wait for it to cool off .... Cut to "its been around 6 weeks to 2 months" I thought 'My God that took a long time, boy it must've been hot!'
Video continuity...not my strong suit apparently. LOL. (I think I pieced some clips together)
@@woodandmetalshoptime8048 Actually that really wasn't a criticism - I think your video work is awesome ....
All welders are setup using voltage, not amps or current. They are not interchangeable.
Yes they are rated in amps but the measure of “power” is always voltage. Hobby machines often have generic letter and/or number combos that don’t really tell you much, my Lincoln SP135 is this way. My 210MP and TIG200 show voltage, so the 210MP shows an actual measure of xxx ft/min feed rate and xxx volts.
Actually, the measure of Power is Watts, or volts times amps. Volts, by itself, does not describe power in any way. The machine dials may increase or control voltage, but, inherently, also, by changing the voltage, it changes the current, or amps.
Right?
How come welder doesn't have a cooling system eg:- fans to move air through and around the casing and windings, would probably help the welder🤔🤔🤔loving the progression of the dozer I think you've made a design change to the dolly wheels frame????🤔🤔🤔keep up the great work🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧👌👌👌👌👍👍👍
It does have a cooling fan. Makes a lot of noise, too.
Hobart is decent. Inverter welders adjust amperage automagicly. So they have the same settings (wire speed and voltage). I think all the bottom tier welders from any manufacture just have those numbers. Seeing the amount of spatter while you were welding I think you could bump your wire speed up. Spatter will reduce and your amperage goes up with better penetration and wet out at the toe. Little more wire speed for inside corner, little less on outside corner. Little more wire speed in position, little less out of position.
Good advice. Thank you. I'll play with it some more.
They did the voltage that way so a novist can relate voltage to wire feed amount to make it simpler
The wire speed control is the amperage control
What gas are you using? Your dog looks just like mine, his name is Bandit. My dog has to go everywhere I go and sticks close by. LOL
75/25 Ar/CO2
Eastwood has a good 240 volt welder I think got mine for 550
I saw the rods where do you fish and what do you fish for, I know fish lol
Mid-Atlantic (USA) tidal salt water inshore/tributaries, local freshwater rivers and ponds. Whatever's biting, catch and release. Noting more fun than casting a little popper on a pond with an ultralight outfit and reeling in Bluegill after Bluegill with an occasional Large Mouth Bass.
Is it MIG only or does it do arc and TIG?
MIG only
I'm leaning towards buying an inverter welder as they have more features, and have a better duty cycle.
Is the Hobart welder made in the US, or is it made from Chinesium?
I don't know where it's made. I'll look and see if it says on it. I'm guessing probably China. AvE much? LOL. That guy is so funny.
"The history of your life" don't worry, that may be te history of plenty people I buying my fourth welder and your comment help met to buy a 220 v welder.
best not to keep welding until it overheats, try to manage your welding time so you stop before it overloads, just walk away with welder still running so fan will help it cool down. definitely not good to keep overloading for sure. love watching
Thanks. I'll have to slow down a bit I guess. Not in my nature, being a bit impatient, but I didn't realize it would actually damage the machine. That's a bit surprising, I'd expect it to cycle off before any damage is done.
🇺🇸👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍 if you want the voltage readout you should have bought that Hobart Handler 200
But, I think the 200 is made in China and the 210 is good ole American made.
Not only is it really educational but it’s sooting LOL literally teaches you how to set it up from step 0
I have one of those
Please try not to over heat your welder to many times weld and take a lot of breaks having the light coming on too many times will burn out your welder windings
you will have better control of your welds using 0.23 size wire with ultra-mix gas . that would be well suited for your type of welding . try it you will believe me . your welding will improve fast . i've got experience as i was certified in 1974 , 15 years Ironworker then 15 years as a certified weld inspector on buildings and bridges . good luck ..
Just chop off the plug and put on a twist lock. Not difficult.
The plug they provide is a proprietary 4 pin plug that uses a pair of adapters--one for 120V and one for 240V. If I cut off the plug (which I've done on a plasma cutter and a stick welder) I'd no longer have the multi voltage option. I guess that's not really a big deal but caused me to pause before getting out the cable cutters...
@@woodandmetalshoptime8048 In that case, I understand completely.
All I'll ever use is a 6 inch Metabo grinder
Lincoln welders come with a full spool
Yea hobart decemt but lincoln is better
@Mike Raffphone dont care where its made, whatever works bettter.
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If it wasn.t any good you would never pay the price of one if it wasn.t good one. They are made by Miller
Miller make hobart and lincon ... Linon by fair best
@Mike Raffphone iv been around welding .y whole life since my da dbeen doing it for 40 yrs amd i weld to ... Miller own hobar and lincon . Whi car if makd in diff plants smh
Unfortunately we don't make t much anymore that is sad
Pretty bad when you gotta buy stuff to make it work
Makita table saws are kind of junky.
That’s just for the hobbyist welder very small work … like Harbor fright sells you would need a Lincoln welder my opinion….
Forst.