Neurosurgeon says brain does not create consciousness
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- Опубліковано 19 жов 2024
- Neurosurgeon Dr. Eben Alexander says that science shows that the brain does not control consciousness, and that there is reason to believe our consciousness continues after death, giving validity to the idea of an afterlife.
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"trying to find consciousness in the brain is like trying to find music in the radio"
Alan Watts.
Search up the gateway process CIA papers they confirm this sort of stuff
@@rainnymph
CIA investigated a lot of nutty crap
@bobo sapiens this has nothing to do with religion, and everything to do with quantum effect. read consciousness beyond life by dr pim van lommel then come back when you make sense.
@@alexxa5584 how is it nutty, it's the ultimate question of life
Humans used to think the world was flat and we couldn’t imagine that we were on a spinning, circulating round object among so many others. I submit we are still in the dark about what is really going on out there and how it relates to us.
Interesting. What do you think we might be missing in our current view of the world?
moonbeamskies The universe, understanding how gravity works, dark matter, life on other planets, intelligent live on other planets, black holes, and many others scientists are still trying to understand.
@@moonbeamskies3346 What many scientists and many people, who align their beliefs of the world with a materialistic paradigm, miss is that conciousness might NOT be produced by the brain and that it is entirely possible that matter is derivative from conciousness itself. Conciousness might be the most fundamental thing in experiencing and engaging in reality, but science is mislead in a way that it thinks that matter is the most fundamental of things.
That's a rational thought.
cx777o what if our minds created all this like this is all a memory we just don’t know it.
Brilliantly said , I lost my dad 10 days ago , the most painfull part is not knowing where he is at this moment ! This is the kind of education humanity needs in times like this .
Don't worry next is you, me, everybody
Don't think about it let it go
I feel where you're coming from. I lost my father just over a month ago and ironically so, science has brought more calmness and resignation to my life during these tough times than any religious belief has been able to. There truly is A LOT more we DON'T KNOW than what we think we know. Consciousness must be more than just the brain.
@@TrudeausBlackFace No, it doesn't
That depends on the decisions he made in this life...
@@Rickandmorty_1961 It is amusing how people get caught up and talk about a tragedy where people died or a celebrity like it's never gonna happen to them.
I thought this was bill nye
Ikr😂
THE SCIENCE GUY
Lmfao are you in kindergarten?
Yes a young Bill Nye
Same bro
Bill Nye The Conscious Guy
I laughed too hard at this😭😭
underrated
hahahha lol
It's Bill Nihilist The Secular Guy
Haha! that’s funny lmaooo
The comment section proves humanity is not ready for this knowledge yet. People are addicted to the illusion and have no interest in the real nature of the soul or of reality (which are the same thing). They will blindly believe anything a scientist says about 11 dimensions, virtual particles, dark matter, etc but believing in the existence of their own soul is just far too much.
Yeah, I agree. You've got the materialists on one side, who are bonded to the idea that reality is only physical. And on the other we have the rigid, narrow-minded religious folks, with their various superstitious beliefs in things like demons and devils, or an angry, vengeful "God" - and the need to actually be "saved" from that so-called loving "God" via a bloody corpse offering. It's so bizarre, because both sides are deeply trapped in self-limiting beliefs. But there are more and more folks who are indeed moving toward the "middle," and can therefore examine all the evidence with a clear, open mind. Cheers
11 dimensions, dark matter etc. are all things people have a reasons to believe (I would say that they are 100% certain, but nevermind). Not only there is no reason to believe a soul, it's so intellectually lazy. This false fantasy of gathering some knowledge that doesn't exist in space-time is ridiculous. And if it's in space-time? That's science.
Some interesting work in determining whether material reality is base reality or not is being done at the University of Virginia, School of Medicine, among others. I understand that it's not always easy to consider the possibility of things beyond our own "self-imposed limitations." But when people as intellectually advanced as Elon Musk are saying that it's billions to one against our observable reality (space-time) being base reality, I'd say it's well worth looking into - which many people are diligently doing. Billions to one. Cheers.
med.virginia.edu/perceptual-studies/
Most people want beliefs that can be packaged and sold. they don't want truth
@@riccardo_aquilanti dude are you ok... no reason?? There guy literally had an NDE when his brain was entirely shut down and joined the millions more that have had NDE's that can't be scientifically explained
This was my theory. I thought that no one will be able to understand me. But I found someone that thinks exactly like me. :)
I will give every theroy a chance to win me over what excatly do you beleive is going on
Brain is a limitation of our true consciousness, that itself is a true proposition, I don't think any one who take brains and consciousness serious would find your statement strange.
When we take a nap and wake up , we were waken up from oblivion, even the question of "what was it?" is invalid, you can't actually says it was nothing. But for a long night dreamless sleep, though you didn't had a dream, but to asks yourself "what was it?" you can somewhat says nothing, or objectively claim that consciousness was in weak state.
I proposes, it is because during nap, our brain blinds the entire conscious experience, and during a sleep whole night, brain didn't shut for whole night, and thus our consciousness was not blind during the whole sleep, thus we can have conscious experience, such as dream , or other form of weak conscious state.
What neuroscientist and those philosophers of cognition are telling us, it is that, our consciousness is not supposed to be delimited by brain after the brain is dead, it will expands, because the brain doesn't blind consciousnesses anymore. This is my imaginative understanding, which is certainly not academic way of semantic, but the idea should be conveyed enough.
Bro u are right.
But Please clear me some doubts
All our memories ,learnt information from childhood can exist without brain out of our physical body ? Can our soul or mind hold this all information without brain ?
AllRounder no
I understand & agree ♥️
brain is just a limitation of our true consciousness. Since, it is designed according to this physical life and requirements. Last sentence was the summary:)
The soul is the accumulation of all your memories stored in the brain. There is no consciousness without the brain. Is there another life thats not physical? Lmfao dont do drugs
I love you
@@Jblah I am the same I now, as I was when I was 4 y.o., despite hundreds times more memories now, 30 years later. My thoughts are differnet, but I'm still the same I.
How the heck does something physical like a brain somehow restrict and filter something nonphysical like consciousness if consciousness is nonphysical? That doesn't seem to be logically or realistically possible but if there is an answer I would like to know.
@@Jblah How the heck does something physical like a brain somehow restrict and filter something nonphysical like consciousness if consciousness is nonphysical? That doesn't seem to be logically or realistically possible but if there is an answer I would like to know.
The consciousness is the Wi-Fi, the brain is the computer.
But the WiFi cannot serve its purpose without the computer unless there are other devices for the WiFi to inhabit...
Hey I think there’s a religion about this
Nice, but if I were to add to your comment, I'd say the WI-FI is the Soul, Consciousness is the Internet (Source) and The Computer is the Brain.
@@lowkeyotaku2373 super interesting
Hey that's actually pretty clever. Ive been looking into this thing alot lately it kindof (but not really) irks me when i see people compare humans to computers in the aspect of death like similar to what Hawking once said "a computer dies it ceases to function" well there's multiple ways a computer can die and cease to function, but more often than not you can just pull the harddrive (where the OS, closest computer function to a conscience; is located) out of it and throw it in another computer and have it working again, or recover its data. We can't necessarily do that with human beings. Though my tech knowledge is quite elementary (let alone my knowledge in neuroscience) compared to other technicians i do work with computers daily. Im not attempting to open some debate im just kindof rambling my thoughts.
@@microgencompany1383 theres a religion about this? What computers and wifi? I need to know about this religion
I always believed that consciousness was your self awareness but without form , just energy,,, and your brain is just the part of your body that allows consciousness to interact with the physical world around us,,, giving us senses, memories etc,,,, I believe that consciousness is an energy that we have yet to discover
No consciousness is beyond energy.
Consciousness is more vast.. A broad way including the vibrations, energy and stimulation and alot more..
Today's world is a matrix and entire illusion.
@@neptune0909 What about yesterday world ? Was that an illusion too ?
@@omaribnalahmed5967 Are you saying there is a place where energy does not exist ?
@@neptune0909 matrix bru ur the delusional this real just how you interpret if u think like that everything’s the matrix
"When ur physical body dies, ur consciousness actually expands tremendously "
There u go, he said it, but is still confused about Existence of soul.
I don't think we were ment to know everything while alive,
Maybe all the answers are unlocked after you die 😊
Well you wouldn't need to be conscious of life if you didn't have one
Lol who's here because they can't stop think of what happens after you die
@@danbruno5945 not me, thinking about that is ultimately a waste of time
Why try to answer an unanswerable question? We'll never know what comes until it happens, all we have is evidence and beliefs. And that evidnece and beliefs make me believe in the afterlife.
That must be why, it feels like two people inside me. Like when you talk to yourself, trying to process the physical world.
Exactlyyyyyyyyy like you’re a realistic deep thinker
Yes ,simple thing to think about very quick. When you do something that you thought from your mind is a good idea but as your doing it a higher observer says that is not right and isn’t a good idea (as ur still taking action and your mind is almost on freemode and autopilot at this moment)then you end up quitting what u are doing in that exact moment. It’s like a second voice. What many call a higher self. It is you. Awareness of all. This is what guides you to ascendance .
What about when you forget about something and suddenly remember it like a week later. Maybe it’s a result of the outcome of random occurances that triggers our brain to remember. Oooor, my favorite theory: that some universal consciousness (perhaps brought together by people who are dead) is guiding your mind telepathically to remember. Have you ever wondered why it’s so hard to forget something you WANT to forget and vice versa?
The left and right brain hemispheres have their own wills and personalities which is why most people have the sense of a divided self. Split brain patients with severe epilepsy who have had their corpus callosum surgicaly severed (which connects the hemispheres) will behave as two separate individuals after the procedure. Read Iain McGilchrists The Master and his Emmisary, it's mind bendingly interesting.
Astounding to me that someone speaking such metaphysical TRUTH has been given a mainstream platform like Larry King. Right on!!
What historical figure said, "I am the truth, the way, the light."? The name escapes me.
I like to think that consciousness is different from reality. It's a bridge that connects the soul or consciousness to this place, and when we die we go back. Maybe we've never even been there and once we die we arrive somewhere else. A place where consciousness is all powerful in a way. Not that it knows everything, but that it just exists on its own plain of existence. Something that's nothing like Earth or reality. Kind of like a sandbox mode but for everything imaginable. No limitations what-so-ever. Comlpete freedom and peace.
and what could be more beautiful than that :)
What’s scarier is I think we come back, and back, and back, etc each time we die. We just come back to another human body and it never stops. We just don’t remember our past lives.
I hope that many people who brought us laughter and joy can find happiness in beyond, and those who were conflicted find peace.
Our body is the car, the steering wheel is the brain, and the soul is the driver.
Do you mean the soul is eternal and there is an afterlife?
Mark Vrahotes there is100 percent an afterlife
How much you smoky
I smell bs.
@@anthonywilliams2764 You mean zero percent, you nut!
Larry King: "Doesn't it almost destroy everything you've learned?"
Dr. Eben Alexander: "Absolutely not, in fact, it opens the door to a far broader understanding." "Because what we're saying is the brain is simply a reducing valve that allows certain conscious states to exist!"
Well said! I couldn't agree more!
(It's totally true!)
And there's proof of this! Jellyfish are conscious despite having no brain.
Jellyfish are not in fact conscious
@@pabloreed7717 have you been a jellyfish?
@@pabloreed7717 how
@@komahinacanon526 how are they not conscious? A better question is how could they be conscious and do you have any evidence that they are?
@@pabloreed7717 Do you have evidence they arnt theres a chance it does
All of your senses are picking up on the things that they are supposed to pick up, and then you are experiencing them in your mind. What you are experiencing literally right now, is being experienced within your mind. Merry christmas.
I've been really struggling with the thought of death recently. It's been eating at my brain for days and I'm having trouble with reality.
I can't imagine that in order to evolve over time, that we as humans became so self aware to the point to where we question this stuff and it actually harms us by doing so. The increased anxiety and fear of either a soon to be death or future death. We just never know. I'm thankful there are people that are trying to research consciousness... But at the same time, we don't know if we will live long enough to find out the answer.
Try reading the Quran, sincerely. It answers the existential questions, why we are here, what’s next after death, who put us here.
Idk how old you are but of you’re just getting curious and it’s on your mind it’s not going away anytime soon. I have thought about this just about everyday for the past 5 years or so.
Even as a Christian (don’t start a ruckus about this) I have been worried that I will die and in reality, nothing will happen. Its been in my head for a few days, but this video kinda helps me. But still theres that possibility that I will just be wrong in the end, and the thing is, if death really is just the end of your consciousness permanently then you will never be able to know what you thought would happen didn’t. It can be comforting to know that you wont know, but it can also be a scary thought. And the world not being able to know for sure if its really the end doesn’t help either.
@Sensei The problem is that, if nothing happens after death (atheism) then we cant know, because for us to realize the concept of nothing we have to be aware, and if we die according to atheism we are not aware. But if dont think conciusness is just awareness, we are atoms, and however you put atoms in any specific order, conciusness wont appear except in living things, and only in certain, like us or some animals that have advanced instincts.
@@roimorgan10roblox64 thats what the devil wants from you. Do not worry child, Jesus, the son of god, died for our sins. Believe in him and you will have eternal life. Also, checkout the 21 grams experiment where they found the body loses 21 grams after death, accurately determining the soul has a weight of 21 grams and leaves your body after death.
I had a dream about this weeks before i found out about this.
Fascinating how the human subconscious can find out things that are quite incredible about existance itself.
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@@customvegandiet9491 okolina jagodine
Our brain/body is the hardware while our soul is the software, and when our body fails/dies our soul gets transferred/backed to a cosmic server/afterlife.
i’ve always had the feeling that we’re organic robots. And that mechanical inventions also have the potential for human level self awareness.
@@reylime2991 we have managed artificial intelligence, that proves that the brain didn't require to make some fake consiousness (us), which means we are not the brain nor originate from
Something like that ...
I've had dreams,or I guess what you would call premonitions,about places that I had not been to yet.I started a new job,in an area I had not been to before,and I realized that I had already had a vision of the street I was walking down! It was incredibly specific..with the houses in the exact same spots.I had that experience of seeing something in my mind that my eyes had never seen, so I believe him when he says that conciousness extends beyond the brain.
Yes when I see some new person then it seems that I have seen them already .But in reality I don't know tgem
@@path199 Thats deja vu
I'm swearing, i have experienced it few times.
But it may be illusion.
@@shivharisharma4000
Illusion of what? A place you haven't seen before?
timeline shifting is real.
When I look at people now, I don't look at them as people I see them as supreme consciousness or "I am" expressing itself through a body. Consciousness is what brings life to everything. Everything is connected. We are all one being.
This is exactly what the Advaita Vendanta says about consciousness!! Quite interesting to see scientists coming to a similar conclusion!!
everybody friends again
@Shayak. Vedanta speaks of a permanent soul that was created by the creator as do the Abrahamic religions, yet certain part of the ancient Vedas speak not of a creator, instead say that there was the universe before the gods.
My mom died with Alzheimer's, I was worry about she could find the way to heaven or find another womb. I was worried, but I think I can understand how consciousness work when brain activity is minimal. I think I can understood this fully.
I love you friend❤
well you probably wouldn't see her again if recarnation is a thing but if it is you are assigned a family of souls then your mom would wait years for your granmom to have a child then you if this is true but you wouldnt know
Angry atheists in the comments
We should be angry that such a distinguished and learned person is resorting to fanciful ideas that almost none of his peers share.
@@randomgamingstuff1 and yet you criticize someone with a theory that doesn't follow what you believe in? You're angry? Why? Does the notion of a well respected scientist taking the bumpy road that a majority of scientists neglect a form of idiocy? You feel like he is shaming the scientific community but he is challenging the current consensus on what quantifies consciousness. Believe what you want, that's an amicable trait, but do not submit to absolute ignorance in the name of "science".
Atheists believe in God they just don't want to for some reason so deny it
@@randomgamingstuff1 distinguished and learned people don't resort to anything or they wouldn't be the first two things, atheists hate when science make breakthroughs about big questions, they want to stay in there God hating pessimistic cocoons forever, haha you have to have an after life
@@adamdouglas5596 No I think its just the false consensus effect wreaking havoc with your reasoning faculties.
I’ve never understood why people are against this way of thinking. If this is true it means there’s a reason, to live with reason is to live for filled.
Why would you want to believe that it’s all for nothing and it’s going to end in nothing. It’s such a pessimistic view point that serves no one any good.
I don’t believe in god, I don’t believe in anything supernatural. I believe in what can be proved and it’s starting to seem very likely that consciousness is a lot more than just being inside a locked room.
Because the greatest and only advantage when it comes to nihilism is the absence of any responsibility.
De Oliveira Damien don’t see why believing in life after death requires responsibility. If anything it means there’s less of.
"want to believe"?
like a grieving mother "wants to believe" that her miscarriaged unborn is still alive? or "want to believe" that I'm a genius even when I'm not? you believe because you know, you know because you sense it. you don't form your knowledge on what you believe. you form your beliefs on what you know is true.
what you call a pessimist is rather a realist. you believe because of evidence, not in spite of it.
to be frank, I don't understand why belief or disbelief in an afterlife should affect accountability for one's life. one could argue that living a moral life secure a place in heaven. therefore there's responsibility there. or you could argue since there's a second life, this one doesn't matter. you could also argue in contrary, that since there's no god and heaven, everything is meaningless. or you could argue that since this is the only life we have, we should strive to live it to the fullest.
Yeah, when I think about consciousness I cannot come up with any other logical explanation than that it is something that is natural to the universe (obviously, we are here and we have it) and that we only filter it, kinda like light consists of all colors and you can split it up. I would go as far as to say that we are part of the same consciousness but divided by our memories and, well, brains in general. We obviously can't share our human experiences with each other in a way that is understandable for humans. I don't believe in stuff like telepathy or whatever, the way I think about consciousness is not something that changes life itself. But it does give some hope for "death" because in a way, you aren't the human body (including your brain), you are the universe having a human experience. And with death it is kinda like amnesia, your personality and memories get deleted, but the most substantial part of "you" is still there: the consciousness
The current winning theory on consciousness is the microtubules in our neurons are able to funnel quantum functions of super position collapsing into one or the other states. Each of those is described as a building block that makes up conciousness. Which is totally in line. Particles collapsing into one state is a super common thing all over the universe. So bits and pieces of consciousness are scattered all throughout the universe. I have yet to even mention how every particle is entangled with another particle somewhere in the universe as well. Which includes the particles in our brains too.
I just want to know where my son is now and how he is? I am already gone. moving like a walking dead
I am your actual son
Sorry for your loss
@@davidregi7571 what a nob you are
Me too... me too
Fundamentally are awareness lives on but maybe not our human identity.
Whether he's right or not- Why do you people care so much what is the truth? (I mean in a sense that we YET DON'T KNOW and you've already made your conclusions)
Isn't it better to consider every information (Or at least accept it for what it is) and then decide what to do with it rather than reactively rejecting it?
What if reincarnation is real and it's just many of us who haven't experienced that? What if? What if we can turn inwards as some cultures say and realise our true selves (or illusions of that)? I mean- what's the point of denying that if there's no 100% evidence for any side of the story that couldn't be denied?
I love the idea of exploring possibilities and seeing what we don't know and what we can learn. Lets say I don't know that I have brain in my head yet I somehow think. Lets say I'm at that level of knowledge in 2018. Now someone comes up to me, we talk and I say- do you ever notice that you have these thoughts? Like what the hell, how could that be? How could I touch and sense something? It makes no sense.
And that person says- Ohhh, you don't know? We have nervous system, brains and all that, it works in this and that way.
And you're like- No way, that's not true.
And I'm not even continuing the story of that because REGARDLESS OF if there's evidence of proving that theory or not, in any way automatically rejecting it seems like a dumb idea, isn't it?
Gedas Well the simple answer is that not all ideas represent the world in the same accuracy, clarity, or usefulness. That’s the problem with post modern thought and why new age science is prevalent and gives quakes like these a platform
@@henrywolf5332 You do not have a clue.
Marta Martínez Palacián A clue about what? Tangential hypotheticals. Or replying to year old comments. Can you elaborate.
Our mind limits us from think in right way, the more harder you think the more you go away from reality
I worked out some time ago, but difficult to explain to others that, we all live our lives in out heads. What we see, hear, feel, etc, emotions of love, hate etc, we experience in our heads. We can live in the outside world but we experience it in our heads.
@Jack. Absolutely right. It is difficult to explain what is intuitive knowledge/reality and easy for others to understand that which can be experienced by the 5 senses.
@@MustAfaalik Reality is different for everyone. Then I ask myself, what is reality. Animals sense things beyond our limited five senses, so reality for them is different from ours. We think we are the superior species, but because of out own limitations, and our willingness to be deceived, are we ?? We have to label things so we can try to understand them better. Animals don't. A Bee, does not have to give a flower a name, to know or understand what it is. Why do we have to take everything apart to understand it ? I feel we could understand it more if we just took the time to sit and just look. Observe without constantly asking the why. I have sat and watched a flower and the interactions that go on around it. I know instinctively, know by just watching, just how important that flower is. I don't need to name it or dissect it to know this. The insects that visit it, tell me all I need to know. Sorry, I do go on. Last thing, why do we humans have to complicate our lives with things that are of no matter, or ignore what should be important to us. It's all in the head.
@@soulman.9835 Perhaps the saying that "our live is the creation of our mind" might help. Especially when you sit and just observe is a kind of meditation itself; being just mindful and accessing into your consciousness that is of dependent origination.
@@MustAfaalik I think ancient man understood what you say better than people today, when survival depended on it. We were more sensitive to our surroundings. You know the saying, listen to your gut feelings ? This is where we used to live, the sixth and most important of our senses I feel. The other five take in info from the other five, and the brain decodes it. This is one explanation I feel it right, but it still does not explain everything.
@@soulman.9835 I follow what you are saying. It is interesting to know that the scientific field are researching into the subject and right now it is just hypotheses. Mine is that conciousness that is attributed to our five senses can be termed as mundane consciousness, the kind that is used in conventional usage in the temporal world, whereas that which is experienced through the sixth sense or mindful meditation is supramundane consciousness or higher consciousness that leads to intuitive knowledge. What do you think?
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The consciousness/soul is the driver. The brain is the steering wheel. And the human body is the car. Once our body dies our soul loses its vehicle and we’re on foot for enternity
@Ur. The soul is supposed to be permanent and of single origin; my hypothesis is that consciousness is of dependent origin on mind and body.
I searched this up at 2 in the morning because my thoughts scare me. I am desperately looking for an answer for consciousness. I believe the answer is the key to knowing life after death. If consciousness is on a physical plain like a section of your brain, then when your brain dies with your body, you including your consciousness will cease, to exist meaning that after death people who say there is nothing after death will be right. You won’t be able to think or have any thought or feeling of any kind. You would see nothing, not even black or white but no color at all which is hard to think of. I don’t believe in heaven or a religious life after death but I just want to know if there is something, anything at all. A feeling, or a thought, or anything to know that I existed, which is why I hope it is not a physical part of you which would mean that your consciousness could live on after death. (Sorry about the big rant but it’s too scary of a thought to keep to myself)
It will be like before you were born you need a body and a brain to navigate the physical plane. Before you had a body you had no experience or maybe you were someone else and when their body died your essence which is your concousness connected to a new body. Concousness is a type of field that is universal the brain is the computer that filters in and hacks into it when the brain dies concousness does not until a new body and brain develops the ability to hack into it and become aware therfore you will experience life again I truly believe we live multiple lives over and over again as different people with different experiences we just have no knowledge of the previous life because that previous body is no longer living.
I hope I can provide some insight here, when you are out of your body (this apparently can be induced experimentally or for most of us, it happens when one is close to death or “flatlined”) you have a perspective shift (eg when you are watching a DVD movie on the screen your eyes are directly across in “real time” from it vs. looking at a DVD disk from above and you can see the whole thing at one time) it is not scary at all. Consciousness from what I have experienced is NOT part of the physical body, because I was able to see things from a higher perspective that normal reality defies. I had profound thoughts, feelings and could see vivid color. So how could this happen if I had lost all connection with my physical body (besides, being able to see it from the sky)? I have to reason that consciousness is not part of the physical body. I thought I was dead, or entering a different dimension, presumably death. you will find that people generally are more amazed and at peace when this happens, not scared. Of course, I can’t tell you what happens during ultimate death because when I came back into my body my perspective went back to normal. But it does make you more open to the idea consciousness is separate from the body/brain, and after death this may or may not continue. Personally I think it does given the experience I had, and I’m no longer afraid of this dimensional change. If consciousness ceases after a time after death, well so be it, there’s no pain in that dimension anyway. Wishing you peace in your journey.
Dont fight the feelings just accept and have ur house in order when the time comes.Personally there is a right way to die,for me it is outside surrounded by the wind,rain ,sunshine,darkness,hot or cold.So long as Im enveloped by the elements .Whether I drift off to nothingness or expand doesnt then matter
We were all just fine before we were conscious. Relax.
@@stevejones148 no
I sense massive developments and understandings into our consciousness coming within the next 5-10 years. Gonna change the way we see things soon
Consciousness is like a guy sitting alone in a cinema watching the film of someone’s life happen. He has no control over the film. But if he wasn’t there the film would still play out the same way but nobody would have seen it.
Man, who else figured this out years ago without the need of a doctorate degree? It's part of us.
Man, you haven’t figured out anything. Even if we granted this theory that’s like .0001 percent of understanding anything. Great job let’s shut down all further learning there’s nothing left!! No degree, research, or peer reviewed journals needed!
@@stevejones148 I dont think he meant it like that I think what he meant is that since he was a neurosurgeon he stopped believing in the after life then after years he started beliveing
Interesting. I’m just thinking about this kind of stuff again today. There’s just too many people that think you could just put a brain in a jar or upload your brain and that would be consciousness, where obviously your brain is important you really only interface with the world through the body. Uploading a conscious is just dying and leaving a trash copy. Hoping it never happens.
I love seeing such insightful interviews wish it was longer would have loved to hear more
People forget that The soul is real, consciousness comes from the soul not the body,the body is just a vessel,Thats biblical,it's been in the bible for thousands of years, The soul is composed of letters,numbers and symbols, what people don't understand is that the bible states that GOD IS LIGHT AND A FLAME OF FIRE,Jesus called HIMSELF THE WAY,TRUTH,EVERLASTING LIFE,Those are composed of letters numbers and symbols along Gasses,liquids and solids
There's no distance in remote viewing. It means that consciousness is not located in the brain.
Remote Spewing. Fails all tests. Just Get OUT! OR, take your remote viewing skills to Las Vegas and make millions. Ha Ha Ha ha.
I like the idea that the brain evolved like a radio that now picks up the signal of consciousness from a distant source.
Unfortunately there's a movement going on which claims that if you believe anything outside the realm of what science is equipped to understand, then you're an idiot. Ironically, only idiots believe this. The rest of us know that science is NOT the only path to truth. Fortunately, there are many in the field of science that understand this as well. In the words of David Berlinsky, "What a man rejects as distasteful must always be measured against what he is prepared eagerly to swallow."
Kevin Mac That movement is called being a atheist.
So if truth can't be uncovered by experimentation, verification and science, then what's the other path to truth?
I hope it's not "believing all the random & contradictory folks who claim to have superior truth because they say so".
Or worse, I hope it's not found in "an ancient book written by mortals who claim they had superior knowledge".
BTW I do believe our culture, history, traditions and DNA do have wisdom embedded in them based on "what worked for others in the past". It's just not always clear, nor is it always applicable, so I find questioning and testing things out experimentally can increase the resolution by a lot.
@@ChrisJohnsonHome Never said that science cannot uncover truth. I said that it is not the ONLY path to truth. Logic and philosophy are also paths to truths that science cannot empirically verify.
Imagine if we're real energy going through different living organisms in different worlds.
If consciousness exist outside brain,then we are living for eternal🥰
You would live multiple lives as different people you would have no knowledge of your previous incarnation and it would be a hard reset new lifes new experiences over and over the brain is a computer that evolved to a level that is able to connect to the conscious field of the universe when we die a new body connects to the field if thats the case we are Pure conscious beings consciousness is the essence of all and the body is a vehicle that uses consciousness to navigate the physical universe.
Yes, we are all receivers of consciousness, but we can use our minds as processors to run imagined consciousness and overlap it with reality, this will synchronize with whatever you are observing, and by doing this you are co creating with consciousness and hopefully you vibrate high energy frequencies with love and since everyone are a receiver, they will instantly be affected.
I honestly don't even see this as surprising.
If all the study into the brain has still provided no results of how consciousness works, yet we know it can be suppressed or even temporarily turned off, then it must exist separately from the physical mind itself.
If it exists separately from the brain then how is it switched off by anisthesia, I've been under anisthesia myself, there was no passage if time dreaming or awareness it was instantaneous no gap between going under and coming around. It freaks me out and now I'm terrified of death.
@@diveguy4291anesthesia inhibits neurons from firing, therefore you don't feel pain or form memories.
When I Die I Want To Be Released From This Body And Explore The Universe Forever Without Being Trapped In A Religious Realm Of Good Or Evil...
I want to explore mars
@@IkeReviews Cryopreserve your body or you never will
Same.. I want no physical ties.. just explore as if time doesn't exist, and the universe is a garden of wonder..
Trust me, consciousness is located in our spine. Our backbone creates consciousness.
There is a good UA-cam channel for the sort of thing here. It's called Afterlife topics and metaphysics 😎😎
This”s why some people that die experience out of body experiences where their heart stops, but somehow remember what was happening at that moment .
Its simply really, think of it as a radio. It's not the information itself, but the device is needed to gain it.
Yeee
Brain is a mere puppet of the conciousness.
I hope what he is saying is true. Death is to scary
This is so meta. The brain is telling itself that it's faking consciousness
It's telling itself that it's telling itself that it's telling itself that it's faking its own consciousness.
@@patricioansaldi8021 lol
Dear people in the comment section you dont know anything
Right back at ya
I bet i know more than you. Whicj probably isn't hard to achieve since all u do is throw out regurgitated philosofical cliches. LMAO
Consciousness is associated with “Thinking” and is independent of “Thinking”.
This thought is understood only by Consciousness.
The vedic literature has a very definite explanation of the sequences we struggle with .
We are the individual souls trapped in the body . Consciousness is the symptom of the soul .
Consciousness pervades the brain as well as the entire body . It is non physical and thus expansive . At the time of death the soul transmigrates to another realm ( mainly different species )
There is evolution but of the soul not the bodies .
The evolution of bodies if true can only produce robots . Fish robots . Human robots .that too, with intelligent design and not by chance . Are you listening mr Dawkins .
This is not my person view but extracted from the oldest and the the most concluded “the Vedic scriptures” adheres by million in thousand yrs of intelligent human existence.
The second he said “evidence for reincarnation,” I stopped watching. Anyone who says we have lots of evidence for reincarnation and misrepresents what quantum mechanics is about is not someone I will be taking scientific education from.
Wouldn't this mean that who we are is determined by the filters applied by our brain to consciousness? So if when we die and we expand in consciousness, do we become one with everyone who has died thereby losing characteristics that make each of us unique?
Thats what I was thinking. I think we all kind of meet in this place were we'll stay
I believe in life after death of the physical boy. Let me just say, I don't believe in religion. During a conversation, I was asked, what is I am wrong...I replied, I won't know, I will be dead, but what if I am right, where does that leave you ?
We spend literally a third of our life in sleep mode. There has to be more to sleep as well. I feel like it’s a bridge to another dimension of consciousness. 💕
How did I know this guy was going to be a Christian when I googled him
I still feel as if we cease to exist and don’t get to think for ourselves and just slowly fade
Excellent video, thanks for posting, much appreciated. I just bought this book because of this great video : )
The filter idea is OVER 200 years old (at least in print). Fechner (one of the principle architects of psychology as a formal discipline) wrote an entire book on the subject in the mid 1800s. This guy has about as little idea of the basic issues involved in consciousness as I have ideas and expertise in quantum computing.
I always wondered, if brain and consciousness are distinct substances, then why is that always during this specific time where the brain damage that is a materialistic process can effect the consciousness that is a mental process, such as change in perception or how we view the world around us?
I think you’re making it harder than it is. Well at least understanding this argument. This guy I’m sure would say of course brain damage will effect your human consciousness in negative ways. This guy believes there’s infinite consciousness most of which we can’t conceptualize. If we did damage to the cerebellum of the brain we could expect someone to have balance issues maybe they couldn’t walk anymore etc. We’re only experiencing human consciousness it’s all we currently can interact with.
Think about it like running water through a dirty filter. Taking clean water from the source, filtering it, and then drinking the water. If the brain is the filter and consciousness is the source of our experience, filtering consciousness through a damaged brain will effect the perceived experience.
No, this is clearly wrong especially the last sentence because consciousness can't happen without the brain. It's the reason why you don't have memories before being born. Think of consciousness as the firmware running on a computer, it makes sense of the software, the things you know and your senses to the hardware or your limbs, your physical body etc. The reason why your consciousness can't expand when you die is because it's running on your brain, so when you're brain dies, your consciousness dies. However, you don't know what it's like to exist without being alive, in fact, it's impossible. Therefore, there must be a place to exist where we can still be conscious after we die.
Virtual reality can trick the mind into ego death
Super underrated comment
DMT
that's interesting. what are you implying?
Dr. Alexander either has lost his marbles or he's hit upon something unbelievably remarkable and wonderful.
I'd like to point out that he's a neurosurgeon and not a neuroscientist, and that the bulk of his claims are anecdotal evidence and don't come from peer-reviewed studies.
no but this man has come from a non-religious background and very much scientific materialist view and yet he had the most remarkable experience - an experience you have not had personally - and therefore you do not have the right to criticise him. if you had had the experience and everyone said you were talking rubbish i am sure you'd be pretty annoyed.
@Robert personal experience could be proof, it's just that you have not personally had the experience yourself. the fact that many hardened skeptics have had this experience and it has completely transformed their world view on consciousness and life speaks volumes. as i said, if you had personally had the experience, which you were absolutely certain was reality for you, and then someone said "yeh whatever", i am sure you'd be slightly, if not very vexed at their ignorance.
@@Dion_Mustard Is there a definite disproof that these experiences are caused by brain malfunction?
His book is great. The title probably puts off a lot of people because they think its a Christian focused thing. But it's really not, its bigger than that. Just, if youre curious about it dont let the title dissuade you.
Proof of Heaven by Dr Eben Alexander.
Even my atheist friend believes in an eternal soul or consciousness but I am not an atheist but is an Agnostic
We know for a fact that the soul has no impact on the brain in any meaningful way. Meaning all the chemistry is working as we understand it.
It’s hard to trust when he’s trying to sell a book
But you also have to keep in mind he’s a known neurologist. Publishing such book can also have an impact on his reputation and how his peers view him. There are also non lucrative testimony and organizations about NDE (such as he experienced and changed his views) that send the same message.
I could tell he was selling something by the way he smashed everyone over the head with his fake quantum mechanics.
Consciousness doesn't collapse the wave function. Measurement does (ie. any external interaction).
And what gets me is that people take NDEs seriously.
Let's walk through an NDE, step by step, like a detective:
1. Someone reports having an NDE.
2. So you check their brain.
3. Sure enough their physical brain has physical memories of a vivid out of body experience.
4. So you trace those physical memories back to the physical experience that encoded those memories into the hippocampus.
5. At this point you have two options:
(a) you find out something non physical interacted with physical matter to encode those memories into the physical brain which allowed the person to report on their NDE.
Or
(b) something physical in the brain created those memories (like a lucid dream, trauma, hypoxia, disassociation, the brain releasing a flood of protective chemicals.)
If it turns out option (a) is correct then the non physical entity is actually 100% physical because it's interacting with physical matter just like normal physical things do. This puts the "soul" into the realm of physics and science, and would be a new discovery, enabling scientists to reverse engineer souls and create new materials that could interact with your brain and insert new memories into your head. You could even prove souls are real by putting very long sequences of random numbers above the operating table in the ER. And then ask what people saw in the operating room when they "died". If they report back the 16 digit number, then bingo! We have a discovery!
However ...
If option (b) is correct (the memories came from a dying, shocked, oxygen deprived, lucid brain state) then we'd expect ~90% of the experiences to report interesting but unsubstantiated stories that later get redacted or revised, and you'd expect ~10% to have some substantiated information with shock value (either by partial awareness, selective memory, unconscious revision, chance or a mixture of all 4). Some of these stories would surely make their rounds on social media and some would turn into best selling books (because it gives hope to the thirsty masses). But 0% of the experiences would be able to verify high fidelity information outside the brain's awareness (so none could recall the 16 digit random number: "_____________" visible above the operating table).
And guess which outcome experiments are pointing to?
Option (a) or Option (b)?
But you trust UA-cam and social media, which is selling you.
@@ChrisJohnsonHome dmt or altered states of conciousness are more interesting than nde but psychedelic trips can be similar to nde. It's not that conciousness is non phyical, more like it in higher dimensions projecting itself into 3d life, ig to play real life sims. And measurements can only be done by conciousness so conciousness doing the measurements collapse the wave function. Phyical matter is clearly not the fundamental roots of existence
This is the Vedic teaching...
Existence - pure consciousness - bliss
Dr Jim Tucker has been documenting children claims of past lives for decades now. It's fascinating stuff. Look it up.
@Rayne SG a.k.a. inkyrayne Just start meditating and experience it for yourself.
No ones cerebral cortex is completely shut down during a coma. It’s just compromised. There is a coma and there is brain death. He did not experience brain death. And I’m not just on hear talking sh*t either. I bought and read his book. I’ve listened to his talks. I’ve heard arguments on both sides. I’m open to the idea of consciousness beyond death, but the thing is, he didn’t die. His brain was still functioning. In my opinion, if the brain is still functional even in a severely compromised state, then all bets are off. Your brain could be communicating absolutely ANYTHING to you and who’s to say he was experiencing all this while in a coma? He said himself he had no concept of time so this experience could’ve “seemed” like forever, but in fact could’ve happened while he was waking up or while he was already out of the coma but in a dream state. He doesn’t know.
As a neurologist I would not let this guy anywhere my brain.
Who cares? You have no evidence he is wrong. He has direct experience and plenty of evidence that your Materialist assumptions are wrong.
Did the chemicals produce those delusions of reality between your ears, or did you freely choose those thoughts with rational agency - apart from chemically induced delusions?
@@atheismkills3748 Please don't spread your genes please.
"READ!" was the first word, that was revealed in the final message. Educate yourself. Receive the knowledge, that was revealed and learn about things the people of knowledge from all different fields (be it divine kmowledge that was revealed or religious jurisdiction or sciences of physics, biology, ecology, climate, chemistry, anatomy etc.) have found out/figured out.
Im a true atheist in the sense that when we die there is no heaven or hell and that all religions are wrong in everything except that the brain is a safety net for our consciousness so we wont be able to 'see' the whole universe but instead we live in a simulation that lets us perceive the whole specteum to our understanding as were are still an 'infant' soul or consciousness whatever you call it and these are our first steps.
Ps Im high Xddd
luke es this is very contradictory, you don’t believe in a higher power but believe we have souls and are in a simulation, which would have to be created by a higher consciousness. I have nothing wrong with getting high, just inconsistent logic.
@@henrywolf5332 How do you know that we need a higher power to have souls?
StrangeLittleGirl I’m not sure what it is.
if the brain doesn’t hold conscience in a way we must all share the same conscience, but different aspects of it depending on the hardware we have.
consciousness may be a field that is fundamental to the universe that we are unable to measure at this point simular to dark matter. The human Brain is a computer that evolved to a state more complex than other animals who are conscious also but at a lower form than humans. The Brain connects to consciousness like a computer connects to Wi-Fi. When we die the conscious field still exists in the universe until a Brain as complex as the human one conceives and is able to connect again to that field and experience a new life. Consciousness is the essence of life.
You can just google the guy to find out hes a complete quack with a large number of malpractices and a disbarment under his belt. So ya his credibility is next to zero.
Neurosurgeon is wrong.
@@Hhjhfu247 He remembers the experience, memory formulation requires a brain state transformation. Long story short, if he remembers, then his brain was active. If his brain was active, then there is no reason to attribute supernatural causes to the experience.
Thanks for being adventurous, Larry. I enjoyed this. 👍
One day all of us will find out ourselves whether we still exist after this body dies.
Well technically, if we don’t still exist, we won’t find out
No, see, I'm not high enough to understand what he's talking about.
He is correct. Consciousness is all there is so nothing 'creates' it.
I love it when a guy doesnt realise hes a hindu.
Many years ago the incredible trance medium Edgar Cayce revealed that the brain is a transmitter of thought. Now science has arrived at the same conclusion.
Once I also used to think that souls, nonlocal consciousness, and all kinds of other philosophies are nonscence, being a science guy and science lover. I always used to read science, until I perfectly understood Descartes idea of mind body problem. I mean really his explaination is different. Science is materialism rightnow. SO, first we all need to change our view point and then understand philosophy in a different way, and so the consciousness becoz its much more than what science explains to us. Its more complex. Being a science guy is really tough for me to grasp philosophy. But learning both separately and collectively understanding both is a very good way of learning our existence.
"The day science begins to study non-physical phenomena, it will make more progress in one decade than in all the previous centuries of its existence." - Nikola Tesla
The brain doesn't create consciousness, the brain is in consciousness. For the brain to exist there must be awareness there to be aware of it for it to exist in the first place.
Would consciousness be inclusive of all beings in the universe? I sense it would because I don't think such an advanced yet complex sense of awareness be limited only to humans.
why should we listen to a neurosurgeon about how the brain creates cognition, that's like asking a mechanic how thermodynamics allows a car to produce forward movement. He doesn't even share the mainstream view in the neuroscience community.
Yeah, why listen to someone who has studied the brain and it’s functions at extreme depth, who has done so to an extent of becoming qualified as a neurosurgeon? They only slap brains back together when they’re damaged and send us on our way at the end of the day! They don’t really know what’s kicking off inside our heads, and can definitely be compared to somebody who repairs machinery.
@@jager9198 well neurosurgeons don't "slap brains back together" they selectively vacuum bunches of cells or at the very best insert electrodes. Neuroscientists or computational neuroscientists would be who we should listen to, they're the ones trying to understand how the brains create cognition. This guy is misleading us into thinking he has knowledge about how consciousness works, he should stick to what he was trained for.
Want real answers? Read the Bible.
This is the ultimate teaching of all the world religions - hindu, muslim, christian, etc. Soul is the consciousness which is beyond the body
Love his shirt color!
Y’know when I think to myself in the mids eye. I always find myself referring to my brain in the third person. Like “Nawh that would hurt my brain.” “Me and my brain”
I wonder why that is.. maybe its cause my conciousness isnt my brain at all. Its simply a conductor or “valve” as this guy says helping me relay what I am in this human form.
Either way its just crazy to really dig deep into the concept of human conciousness and the soul itself. Its a mindblowing rabbit hole to try to understan.
People are really in the comments eating this up with 0 conscious and logical reasoning...
You didn’t add anything to the debate either lol
@@connorm8378 It's literally a video...You act as if I was there.
Yeah but what he stays is logical. Phyical non concious and non intelligent matter is not the fundamental existence.
@@lucifer.Morningstar369 it’s not logical. He just dodged his questions the entire time. The problem is that people are still in the mindset of trying to find some force that is consciousness rather than putting more efforts towards where all the data is leading us and that is emergence theory. When people keep saying “it’s like trying to find the music is the radio” or “like trying to find the people in the tv” they fail to realize that they are also describing emergent properties. Video on a tv doesn’t exist. It’s just the emergent property of certain interaction such as vibrations for sounds a voices, very small RGB pixel formation changing from picture to picture in rapid succession to create an illusion of video etc etc. then they proceed to say that the consciousness (or the channel or radio music) is somewhere else…if you haven’t realized yet, those things are still emergence. Because the actors aren’t the show, the boom mics aren’t the show, the cameras and camera crew aren’t the show, the people on the crew aren’t the show.
For a simple analogy, let’s think of a company, we’ll call it company X. Company X is currently the largest company in the world and has the highest share prices. (This analogy really applies to ALL companies). No singular person is company X. No force is company X. No worker and no department is company X, no service that company X provides is company X, no driver is company X, no boss or ceo is company X etc etc. but when you have all the departments with jobs that are working in relation with all the other departments doing their jobs and out of that comes company X that is emergent of the set still. There is nothing wrong with saying that the entire team (the entire brain) is company x (consciousness). It would be wrong to try and locate company X (consciousness) inside any individual department.
Biology and chemistry are prime examples of emergence theory. When something is removed from its relationship to the other members of the set it’s individual properties can have 0 representation of the actual group. Try to find water in Hydrogen…now try to find water is Oxygen….you can’t?? But would it be wrong to say that water is Hydrogen and Oxygen???? OFC NOT. Trying to say that the brain isn’t us is like trying to say that Table salt isn’t made of sodium and chloride because individually sodium exploded immediately in contact with water and chloride is one of the deadliest satanic weapons of warfare that humans have ever came up with and none of these have the properties of table salt, but together to do go very well with some crispy French fries…
@@user-dr9gs6wh1k what we observe in the brain activity doesn't really fit what we observe and experince through our conciousness. How does particles do what they do without being concious or intelligent? How does particles form plants, animals, chocolate, dirt, in fact how does the universe go from pure energy with no solid form to a rock planet like ours with all the things we have on this planet and our ability to make technology out of the materials on this planet? My point is how can pure energy state turn into our current universe if it's all non concious and non intelligent processes created by non concious and non intelligent particles? Makes no logical sense. Like I said something is orchestrating all of this, we can't fathom concious potential. If humans never go extinct we will become like the gods we once worshipped. As in we will be on a higher concious level with highly advanced technology. That is the purpose of conciousness is to realize it's full potential and evolve to higher states. But we are no ready yet. I don't have faith we ever will. There's only two options, conciousness is the most beautiful story ever told or the most tragic. As in we are either meaningless particles that will die and go nowhere or we are something deeper beyond the universe.