Waste Oil Blue Flame Bottom Feed Vapour Burner - Heater - Cooktop CONSTRUCTION
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- Опубліковано 5 бер 2022
- BURN THE VAPOUR - NOT THE OIL.
Seemingly the pinnacle of waste oil heaters / burners / cooktops is production of the blue flame through waste oil vapour generation.
This is our current attempt at this build of this model in an ever-changing, constant up-grade mode of progressive learning-type developement.
Please comment on any typos or mistakes found herein.
Also share your ideas with the UA-cam community.
This is probably the only clean burning waste oil burner I've seen.
Hey @chryslerjune, thanks for the comment.
Stay tuned because we've got a better one coming in the next week or so.
There are many clean burning heaters/furnaces out there now you just have to search blue flame and they are usually pretty good, the yellow smoking ones are just too inefficient and dirty/smoky anymore. They can produce a lot of heat though.
Happy building.
Of all the burners I've seen on youtube over the years (yes years) and my own trials and tribulations, this is my FAVORITE one yet!!! I will be building this very soon!!! Thank you for sharing your video!!
Hey @hitekredneck109,
Thanks for the comment.
You may want to wait for the next video, we just finished a superior model complete with heat exchanger installed in a home.
Final test was actually today (2/8/24).
I've seen nothing like it online to date, we will begin compiling the video now, hopefully it will be published soon.
Happy building.
@hitekredneck109 that video is ready if your interested...here is the link...ua-cam.com/video/xdsrziVsI50/v-deo.html
@@learn2farmagain30 thanks!! I'll check er out 🤙
Too hard to believe so I made one. It burns blue using kerosene, engine oil, lard, used cooking fats and oils all mixed together ! Leaves dust as residue ! Quite amazing :) Thank you sir for showing what is possible.
That black dust is pure carbon. It has value. Can be used to make batteries, capacitors, water filters, graphene.
Carbon and magnesium sulfate ( Epsom salt) will make a battery.
I'd expect a lot of metals in there too from used motor oil
Yup, i built one today, not believing it would work so well, i'm very happy with mine, going to bring it insde my garage today and plumb it into chimney, lets see how it performs inside, thank you for such a simple design , at last i can heat my garage for free
Hey dark,
Thanks for the comment.
Way to go!
The best comments are the ones where someone actually attempts to build their own and when they are done...it actually works!
Excellent for the garage if you have a chimney.
Just be sure to have a co detector just in case.
Hopefully you've already watched the top dangers video on our channel, it's all about these furnaces.
Nothing like free heat these days. 🤗
Appears to be the simplest, and easy to build blue flame heat I have seen on UA-cam . Thanks for sharing
Hey Darryl,
Thanks for the comment!
Yes simple is nice in a busy world.
There are many variations coming out today, very exciting.
Happy building.
Lifesaver
I love the calm classical music. Also love the scripture at the end. (not to mention the video itself!)
Hey David,
Thanks for the comment.
Amazing what a nice comment can do, and it's the first one about the verse at the end!
Thanks again and happy furnace building. 🙂
@@learn2farmagain30 vv
Hi Mamertoeva,
Thanks for the comment, although I'm not up to date on what vv means yet.
Happy building though.
Thank you for the inspirational uplifting classical music at 9 minutes drowning out the grinder noise. 🙌🙌🙌😁
Thank you also for scripture. Corinthians at the end.
Hey @reypolice5231, thanks for the comment.
No problem, glad you liked it...it is quite the noisy process, but then it should serve you for many years to come.
Happy building. 😊
Perfect mate . It the best design so far and I been looking for 10 years 👍🏻
Thanks for the great comment EPNM,
Maybe you can improve it even further...
Actually we have already by adding a screw on burner instead of just a "set on" type.
Happy building.
Thank you SO much for this sir, it answers every question or query I always wanted to know, beautiful work, much appreciated.
Hey Brad,
Thanks for the nice comment...
There does seem to be much confusion on the specifics out there in building these furnaces, but it is getting better as more people get involved.
I hope you have great success in your building of a blue flame furnace.
@@learn2farmagain30 Very true, I am now looking at a few vietnamese style cooking burners, very interesting, thank you very much.
Made one yesterday
Works fantastic
Cheers mate
Hey Ffl,
Glad everything is working good for you, these heaters are awesome for many things.
Still always amazing to see that blue flame happen with black oil.
It looks like you might want your next project to focus on Revelation 20:15 though, just going by your username. 🙂
the best 1 i have seen . top job , gone make it.
Hey Math,
Thanks for the comment.
Not sure how I missed it.
Great! Let us see your finished product, maybe with some witty upgrades?
Happy building.
Thank you!
Now I think I can build one!!
Yes!
Show us what you come up with. 🤗
Who hasn't caught something on fire when welding at some point in life?
I miss my chickens' eggs!
Worst one for me, setting cross legged doing overhead under a 36" high conveyor Hering Bone plate I was fabricating. Needless to say you try to ignore it for a bit when cramped & stuck...😂😂😂 😮😮😮 😢😢😢 🔥 📛 👨🚒 😮😅😂😂😂
Bush fire made me walk funny for months😂😂😂🎉🎉🎉
Thank you man it works "done"
Great MS,
Thanks for the comment, great job!
Any pics to share?
I hope it works well for you.
Hey Brad Shows,
We're working on that possibility! 😊
Amazing idea,by the way new friend from jolo Philippines.@yus channel..1 hug for you bro'
Hey Yus,
Thanks for the comment.
Right back at ya bro.
I love the Philippines! 🇵🇭
Happy furnace building. 🙂
👏👏👏 saludos desde Argentina 🇦🇷💪
Excellent! You are lookin like a rockstar to me right now. I was about to give up thinking it wasn't possible. I'm trying to design portable ones about the size of a half gallon cookie tin and getting the convection to draw in air vortex. I was getting close but......... so much work for so little progress. I do have an idea to contribute. Thermoelectricity! you can use computer cooling hardware and Peltier (TEG or TEC) units to generate electricity directly from the heat. If you want to power pc cooling fans
Hey Twag,
Thanks for the comment!
Great idea as far as the thermoelectric part it is actually already on our: "Waste oil Blue Flame Multi Fuel Camping Stove CONSTRUCTION and USE" video at the 6:30 mark.
Happy building!
@@learn2farmagain30 This is AMAZING! Ever since the energy utility companies revealed their sinister planning, its as if every tinkering hobbyist is working on this problem at the same time. All over the world. Check this design out. This one revealed to me what I'm doing wrong. ua-cam.com/video/3xohnAjjHuo/v-deo.html&ab_channel=foguista
Blue flame is not just exclusive to waste oil burners, it relates to anything that burns fuel. If it burns yellow the mixture is too rich, and high temperatures can be achieved, but fuel used is excessive. If the mixture is a controlled mix, emissions will be almost non existent, and fuel used will be more reasonable as nearly all the fuel is burned in the cycle. combustion in a car engine is the same. If the mixture gets rich the blue flame turns yellow. In the UK a firm called Gunsons used to make a diagnostic spark plug where you could see the combustion colour through a little window in a spark plug. With it you could set the mixture to ideal mixture by watching the flame.
Hey robert,
Thanks for the input.
Yes, tuning is very important.
There are still exhaust fumes that can be toxic depending on the fuel used, many debate over the purity of even a blue flame since there are many unknown and varying additives, synthetic variations, and chemical stabilizers in oils especially.
Always vent outside, or have plenty of ventilation.
Ótimo vídeo Parabéns 👍
Thanks Aparecido Miranda,
Great comment,
I hope you have fun building one too.
You can tell those are free range eggs just by looking at their color. Enjoy!
Hey tiny,
Thanks for the comment.
And you're right!
Sounds like you might have chickens of your own.
Happy building.
Great build and info, thanks. Have you seen Dawlac Dojyo DIY's build, too? It's an excellent one, too....with blue flame, rotating, like yours. Thanks, again. Stay warm this Winter.
Hey english,
Thanks for the comment.
And yes I have seen Dawlac Dojyo's work, he does a nice job on his furnaces, good ideas.
As long as you can get a blue flame using something that is so often disposed of, it's all good.
Can't wait to see your post when you finish yours...hopefully with a few updates to show us all.
The deleted scenes..brilliant
Hey Alan,
Thanks for the comment.
My favorite comment yet!
Happy building.
@@learn2farmagain30 :-) Thank you
I built my heater love it thanks ..only problem is keeping proper amount of oil feeding gets plugged have to keep close eye on oil feeding
Hey Hotrod,
Thanks for the comment.
About the proper amount of oil feeding, a 1/4" needle valve instead of the 1/4" ball valve helps regulate the flow much better since the blue flame is so efficient.
As far as the plugging up, where is it plugging up? I haven't seen this on any of the blue flame models, only the yellow flame was what it was so common on.
Is your feed on top or the bottom?
@@learn2farmagain30 I have it feeding threw the top there's a video on my page of the building of the burner
@@learn2farmagain30 actually it's looking like I got a batch of contaminated oil
@@learn2farmagain30 ua-cam.com/video/lrP5et3kqh4/v-deo.html
@Hotrod,
That setup looks like a lot of potential for heating, very nice.
There are so many options in the build it's nice to see others build their version so we can all learn.
And yes the oil contamination can be a problem, good point.
When I clicked on the thumbnail, I saw "no need for electricity" but then I see a blower 🤔
Nonetheless a very good buikd that I want to try myself.
With 1 pipeline blown up and the other pipe from Afrika not willingly to sell gas to europe anymore, it will be an expensive winter without
I would still love to see a non electric version, or one that even will generate power at the shop heater level. 😁
I thought he only used the blower to get it started and heated up. After that, he hooked it up to the flue which produced natural draft. I built a "Mother Earth News" version which required no forced air at all. I had mixed results, but also insufficient draft due to a low flue stack, otherwise it worked great! I can see this one working much better.
Hey @123klaas, Thanks for the comment...
Yes it's true what you said, maybe I could have worded it differently, but, in the video, the addition of a 13' chimney causes a draw that allows you to run without any blower or electricity, and it is doing just that at the 7:55-7:56 time mark in the video. (You can see the blower pipe lying on the ground behind the furnace.)
The flame is not quite as blue but it does work without any blower or electricity if you use a chimney with enough draft.
Sorry if there was any confusion, I should have made it more pronounced in the vid.
Happy building. 😎
Hey @curtdunlap6818,
Thanks for the comment and support,
You are absolutely correct, That is the way to do it.
Now if you are in a country or place that currently has no electricity, or the power is out for some reason it will still work without any startup blower it just takes longer and a more smokey startup to get going (The chimney has to warm up and create a good draft). But it definitely works.
I always liked the hum of a good blower. And if they only use a 1/2 an amp to run, even better. soooo many options.
Ahhh, thanks for the explanation, I look forward to build it in the near future!@@learn2farmagain30
the flames are hypnotic but you run the risk of losing your eyebrows ¡¡¡¡¡ ¡¡¡
Yes, Luciano Gatica,
Please be careful.
Have you watched the Dangers video on this channel?
Could be helpful.
And please show us your furnace build when you finish it.
Thanks.
Great video, I’m building a 12” one right jow to heat my shop this winter. I have only one question: At 12:01 you say drill 5 holes on each side of the bottom, but I don’t see those holes from that point forward, are they necessary?
Hey R T,
Sorry I totally missed seeing your question till now.
Yes, you caught that right, we marked the holes and drilled them all except the bottom ones until after the video was over...perfect observation.
Yes, you do need those holes to get great performance especially at decreased blower speeds to get longer run times.
Great question.
Best video I have seen on the net on this. How large of shop will that on heat. Mine is 1800 Square Foot. Thin insulation, I heat with a wood stove now. In East Okla average winter cold
Is 40 degrees down to 20,s. Your thoughts please?
Hey Jim,
Thanks for the comment.
Great question.
The answer to this one is not as straight forward as we might hope.
We do not have minimum to maximum btu ratings on this furnace.
As you may know, the output changes with the type of fuel you use, the air flow and pressure and how much oil you keep in the furnace (if you just drip enough to keep it going, or if you keep a 1" puddle in the bottom) along with other variables.
I can tell you that this model feels about the same as our 80,000 btu wood fireplace when you stand next to it while using waste motor oil and the fan shown in the video.
Happy building.
I am SO INTRIGUED by this, but I have a question... I recently moved to Caldwell, Idaho and my shop is 40' x 60' w/a high ceiling. It is not heated, but is insulated.
Would you recommend a larger tank for the heater than the one in this video, and if so, what size? The temps next week are forecasted to be 16 degrees. I'd like it be as much as 75 inside the shop. I plan to install a large ceiling fan @ some point. Please, advise, and MANY THANX!
Hello Theodore Wilson,
Thanks for the comment, excellent question.
In the video starting at the 12:11 mark you will see a 15" industrial type 100 lb propane tank being used.
Those extra 3" in diameter over a 20, 30, or 40 lb tank makes a huge difference.
That is why we call the 12" a heater/cooktop (you can easily get hot next to it while cooking), and the 15" a shop heater. This heater feels like it puts off more heat than our old 200,000 btu propane heater.
We have a 32x64x11' barn with no insulation at all, the 15" with 9/64" holes in the burner does a great job of keeping us warm in winter (20 degrees F).
I would definitely use a chimney if your barn is insulated since we do not know exactly what is in what we burn or precisely what toxins can be coming off even with zero smoke and beautiful blue flame, just like you cannot see carbon monoxide, better to play it safe.
Also highly recommended to watch the dangers video on the channel understanding there are other possible dangers beside the top 10 shown.
If the 15" is simply not enough for your comfort needs then a second shop heater is recommended rather than going bigger...
We had 55 gallon barrel going before glowing orange but if there are any unexpected problems it just felt like too much of a bomb instead of a heater, but it can be done.
It's also nicer with the thicker metal on the propane tanks, no leaky seams like possibly on an aging barrel, and the rounded bottom works nicer too in making the great swirl effect in producing the blue flame.
So overall really a balance of your space and how much oil you want to use and how powerful a blower you want to listen to.
Also remember if you have a nice heater running at about 700 degrees you can use a bigger blower and more oil and get up to a thousand degrees so there is some flexibility on each heater/furnace.
Happy building, and share any great progress you make with us all here on UA-cam. 🙂
Great detailed video. If used with air blower and no chimney is there lots of smoke and carbon monoxide inside the garage?
Hey trikator,
Thanks for the comment,
We use it in the barn in the video, once running, you won't see any smoke, it doesn't even irritate the eyes if you're right over it.
Seems perfect.
But also, as seen in our dangers video, there is carbon monoxide produced and it registers on a meter right over it.
5 feet away we show nothing on a meter.
So bottom line, no smoke, but carbon monoxide, and, depending on what you burn, there could be any number of additives, stabilizers, or any other chemical added, especially to motor oils and trans fluids that we are not sure of the health problems possible with burning them since they are not made for that.
So be sure to have enough ventilation, play it safe, never use in a house, especially a sleeping area.
These furnaces are very nice but not built for indoor use as is.
You should probably treat it as a generator running in a garage if you are not going to use a chimney.
Besides all that, they are great outdoors or in a barn, but in an enclosed space you probably want a chimney.
Great video. Now I want to make one! Any suggestions on easy ways to filter or screen your waste oils? Also, have you considered adding a barrel or another tank on the flu side to radiate even more heat into the space before it exhausts outside? I'm thinking of the Rocket Mass Heater types with the barrel but not the bench, which takes allot of space. Thank you!
Hey @DamonBrown-tm8hc,
Excellent comment, we use a fine kitchen strainer as shown in the video starting at 13:12.
Also, the barrel is an awesome idea for heat savings, although not as much is lost like on a wood burning stove which is usually around 400 degrees on the vent pipe to get a fireplace box about 500 degrees, whereas this set up produces between 700-900 degrees Fahrenheit (depending on the blower) on the furnace with only about 200-250 degrees on the vent (another awesome feature of these furnaces).
So you could save some heat, but if for any reason your flame goes out, you risk making a giant bomb (if you use a 55 gallon drum) in your living space if it reignites.
I highly recommend everyone watch the "waste oil burner top 10 dangers" video on this same channel before making a furnace of their own so you understand how to safely operate and what not to do with these furnaces.
Happy building and play it safe...
@@learn2farmagain30 I missed the strainer the first viewing. I get it now. I watched the top 10 dangers ua-cam.com/video/w97RFaMgUf4/v-deo.html and makes more sense to me. I also see when you have a flu pipe you add a cover to the top of the furnace but it's loose on top, in case of an explosion, it can just pop off. Love your videos!
It looks like there's a lot of liquid oil pooled up at the bottom of your burner when it's running. It seems like you're boiling off the more volatile elements and leaving behind the heavier tar / asphalt residue. If that's the case, I wonder how long this burner can run before the buildup becomes an issue.
I've built several blue-flame waste oil burners, but I always try to supply just enough oxygen to the bottom of the burn chamber to continuously burn off any residue and prevent tar from building up. After shutting off the fuel supply, I like to see the fire go out in less than a minute. When you shut off your fuel supply, how long does it take for this burner to flame out? And how cleanly does it burn during the burnout period?
Hey Adam,
Excellent observations.👌
You're right, if you always run it with a large pool you will get a "scum" tar layer that eventually blocks the vapour from efficiently rising up.
Then you either have a scoop and clean the layer off occasionally or just turn up your blower so it keeps the layer broken up.
This technique is really in overdrive.
The best way to run it long term is to add just enough to keep the flame going and no fuel "level" at all.
It is nice that there are two ways to run these,
especially on the camping model coming up in the next video, at this small scale, you need no oil feed at all (It is nice not to have anything unnecessary on a camping trip) You just pour in a pint of fuel and it runs for hours. 🤗
Thanks for the question.
Do you have a link to your oil furnace builds for all to see?
@@learn2farmagain30 Thanks, that clears up several questions that I've have about similar burners. Most of the info I've seen on these is either in Russian or Japanese, but it seemed like some were "air regulated" with a constant pool of oil, and some were "fuel regulated" with no excess oil. The main thing I like about the fuel-regulated approach is that it allows me to switch my fuel pump between a high and low setting, either manually or with a thermostat, and the burner responds immediately.
I don't have any videos of my burner, but it's very similar to this Russian design, except I built mine into a boiler with a water jacket surrounding the burn chamber:
ua-cam.com/video/GRiL_TrbP50/v-deo.html
Hey Adam,
Yes, I've seen that link, you're right, so much of these videos on blue burners are in other countries.
Some have measurements, some don't.
It sounds like you are gathering information also.
That is why we made a video to help others come up with great ideas that they share also.
I like the idea of your boiler for hot water, we are also experimenting on various designs for just some hot water and also water for hydronic heating of floors and radiators.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts. 🙂
@@learn2farmagain30 These blue-flame burners make very efficient boilers, since they direct the majority of their heat outward into the water jacket, instead of up the flue. I built a few yellow-flame pot-style boilers that were far less efficient.
If you're on facebook, I posted a few photos / videos of my boiler in group called "waste oil burners."
Hey Adam,
Yes great point, much of the heat is like torches on the sides of blue flame burners.
We are just finishing up the multi fuel camping stove video and the sides are glowing red.
Excellent for a water jacket.
We need more people making videos of that in action to stimulate the best ideas especially in the transfer from water jacket to point of use.
Thanks for the great input. 🙂
At the bottom part of the furnace is an air hose connection. Was that connected to an air compressor?
Hey Gil,
Thanks for the comment.
There is air involved, and you could use an air compressor, but it is not recommended.
In the video at 2:19-2:27 the blower is shown.
There are many blower choices, but it does not take much air for this furnace to run so if you can find a variable speed model, you can tune in the perfect burn without much electricity wasted.
Amazon has many choices...
Hello, I am in the process of building your furnace. I am thinking it might be more efficient to put the outlet for the chimeny lower on the body of the furnace.
Is there a reason not to do that?
Am wanting to scavenge more heat from it, have less go up the chimeny.
Will not be using a blower.
Hey Greg,
Thanks for the comment.
Great thinking about keeping the heat from going up the chimney.
Many tests show that for proper pull up the chimney, and great efficiency, a better way is to have the same size burner, but then a taller furnace, say 3 20lb tanks or a 100lb tank and then just above the top of the burner have a plate or two about 3/4 of the furnace diameter (or whatever you can fit in the hole you have) forcing the flame and heat to hit the plates releasing more heat to one side and the the other finally coming out the chimney at the top.
This is like newer more efficient fireplaces and some water heaters.
But, even like the furnace is in the video with no further modifications, since there is no fire brick, the furnace blasts out heat at about 750F and only about 200F on the chimney pipe.
So not to bad.
There is however always room for more efficiency.
Happy building.
Will this work well with waste alcohol from manufacturing process? I get it free from work, but no waste oil. thanks!
Hey Christopher, thanks for the comment.
No exactly sure the type alcohol you are speaking of but we have used many things beside waste oil, diesel of course, kerosene, peanut oil, denatured alcohol, rubbing alcohol, gasoline (careful lighting it), etc.
The one thing that seemed to put out the flame, even once going, was olive oil. Corn, peanut, soy, no problem.
But yes, let us know how it works and what type you have.
Great comment.
It is the whole purpose here to use what you have, or "waste products" to provide heat, cooking, and hot water for washing and showers that we are after.
Can this possibly get any better?
We are working on it....
Thanks Brad Shows
Hey Brad, love the heater, have you tried doing this in a smaller size ? I am wanting to make one with a low output in say a 4 inch diameter tube . If you have any ideas I would love to here from you as you seem to have done lots of experimenting done to iron out the kinks and make a great heater.
Hello Gary,
Thanks for the comment..
Excellent question and timing, we just released the last 2 videos all about a 5" camping stove with water heater!
I made a burner using 4 inch pipe using the dimensions showed for the 5 inch pipe and it produced a howling noise :) Didn't quite get blue flames though, either my holes for the air were to big or small or the blower is too powerful but the concept does work and will get a clean burn, very clean ! The smaller you make these units the more critical the dimensions become so more accuracy is required.
There is a english guy's YT channel ( Shane Smith - Smith Built ) that does a tiny waste oil burner, its a bit rugged, but it works very very well.
@@moonshiner2977 your holes need to be around 3 MM, and you need a damper plate in the pipe between the fan and the burner. Once you get started with the damper plate as good as closed you can slowly open up the damper plate to let more air through.
So where does the air comes from that blows from underneath ?
Hey Afiotor Edirin,
Thanks for the comment.
It is a blower fan, you can see it in detail at the 2:20-2:30 mark in the video.
Happy building.
Ton of salt in when cooking and then more after, other than that, great video
Hey Clive,
Thanks for the comment.
Yes, love the salt!
Need more salt.
Happy building...
I like your jobs.
Can you cook on iit?
Nice solutions for meni people's in de world
Hello
alejandro garcia,
Excellent question 🙂
And yes, you can cook on it.
Please watch in the video starting at 13:53, it shows a meal being cooked on top. 🤗
Thanks for watching.
So this won't get hot enough to melt aluminum, right?
Hey @growleym504,
Great question.
Actually it melts aluminum quite easily...
I once made an aluminum burner from an old aluminum fire extinguisher and after about 2 minutes I noticed the fire went out and there was just a puddle of oil and aluminum in my furnace...no more burner! I make them all from steel now 😊
Happy furnace building!
i Am french Handy man very good job please show me ôter Project thank you
Hey hannequin jean-claude,
Thanks for the comment, not sure how I missed this one.
Yes, please check out this channel for current and soon to come videos.
How much of an odor does the stove put out Sir ???
Hey Victory,
If these heaters are built right, there should not be an odor.
There can be an odorless danger though, called carbon monoxide, so these should be used with plenty of ventilation or with a chimney which eliminates this possibility.
Thanks for the great question.
Happy building.
@@learn2farmagain30 Thanks for the information you have given me Sir. Look forward to more great videos for us all to enjoy and learn from also. Peace vf
@@learn2farmagain30 Thanks for the information you have given me Sir. Look forward to more great videos for us all to enjoy and learn from also. Peace vf
Just hot air really. But that will only happen if all the paint on the bottle has been removed. I just used the burner to get the thing hot and all the paint blistered and fell off, however it did make a horrible smell until all the paint was consumed, after though just like a tumble dryer :)
@@moonshiner2977 Got ya fella.
Ngọn lửa bếp xanh như bếp gas
Hello Tips 87,
I hope you are having a successful building experience with the blue flame waste oil furnace possibilities.
I translated your comment to English, I hope google did a fair job of conveying your message.
Here is the English translation of your comment:
"The kitchen flame is as green as a gas stove."
If this is correct, maybe green is like blue in other languages..?..
Either way there are great similarities in common household kitchen gas and the blue flame produced in waste oil burners.
I hope you have a great time building your furnace. 🙂
Hey Tips 87,
Brad Shows answered excellently.
He usually answers comments quickly.
So, yes, great comment.
Happy building.
Oil's smoke is carcinogenic ? Good ventilation while cooking required.
No shit Sherlock
Hey P Tran, thanks for the comment.
Yes, besides the carbon monoxide produced (as demonstrated in the "Top 10 dangers" video) there are many additives in oil these days, some synthetic blends besides fully synthetic all without obvious or clear warnings about what burning these additives can produce (probably since they were not produced to be burned like we are, so...understandable.)
But we must be cautious.
Always use outdoors, or if in an outbuilding without ample ventilation, use a chimney to remove toxins from the area safely.
Está muy bien para que utilizan este apartado ustedes contésteme por favor
Hello Omar Arosemena,
Thanks for the comment.
Hopefully you're having a great time building your blue flame waste oil heater.
We love answering questions here at Learn2farmagain!
If you could re-phrase your question, we could possibly answer it more correctly.
Thanks 🙂
Los felicito por su trabajo es muy buen invento y se colabora con el medio ambiente porque el aceite contamina mucho 👍
Hey Omar,
Here is what google translate says you typed:
"I congratulate you for your work, it is a very good invention and you collaborate with the environment because oil pollutes a lot"
I hope that is correct, if so...
Thank you very much for the nice comment. 😊
Although we definitely did not invent the whole idea of blue flame burners, there are many involved in this all over UA-cam.
We do however wish to develop new furnace types and improve on ease of use, safety and application of this type of fueled furnace so that anyone, anywhere can cook and also clean up and even shower with hot water (upcoming video), with many fuel choices.
Hows the smell ?
Hello Es, great question.
There should be no smell with a good burn going (after the first few runs burning off any external oils or paint of course.)
But you should not be fooled by no bad smell and then think it is ok to breathe...there can be hazardous toxins in used oils, better to be safe and use outdoors or hook up to a chimney if it is in an outbuilding or barn.
Happy building.
A1
When cooking, please warm up your wok a bit more!
Hey Dave,
Thanks for the comment.
Yes, I'll have to remember to do that next time.
Thanks.
Hope your project is going well.
No blower ?no power? Whats the fan doing
Hey Ss, thanks for the comment,
Yeah, I do not like clickbait either, but if you read the thumbnail carefully it does not say no fan or blower...it specifically says "Can run without any electricity" and "no blower required" which are both true. the video is supposed to show people that these things are not required IF you have a chimney with a strong draft which will create enough pull to run a great furnace. But that you can also run this same furnace without a chimney and use a blower, it just demonstrates the versatility of such a bottom feed burner, blower and no chimney - blower and a chimney to remove all toxins - or no blower and a chimney. If you watch carefully, right after the discussion of not using a blower there is a shot of the blower hose removed and lying on the floor at the 7:56 time mark.
So it is all there if you watch the whole video and pick up on all the wording used and its intended purpose of helping people make decisions before embarking on an entire build that they may not be happy with later.
But I can see where that could be construed as something mischievous, especially understanding how some people run their channel through deception.
We at Learn2farmagain have no such intent (Leviticus 19:18; Matthew 5:43-44) and only wish to share so others can make an informed decision and then help the entire UA-cam community in sharing and rocket fueling our production models to the perfect furnace, especially for those in need of cheap energy to heat food, water, or buildings to live happy lives as they provide for their families.
Need some bacon.
Hey Phill,
Sounds tasty, and I'm sad to say I've had plenty of it, but no more...
It actually goes against the commandments of God, even the Apostle Paul, and Peter agree.
So for us steak and eggs will have to suffice.
Thanks for the comment though.
Happy furnace building.
Where's my tea?
Yes, it is a wonderful way to make tea.
You could even use the new camping model for that! 🙂
You wrote no blower is needed but you are using a blower???
Hey Ali, great question!
We use either one actually.
Start up is easier with the blower and then transition to the chimney until it warmed up and has a good draft and then remove the blower.
You can see the chimney connected and the blower hose off in the video at 7:56.
Thanks for asking.
@@learn2farmagain30 I didn't pay attention to that. Good job.
Thanks Ali!
Happy building...
Did you use air compressor ?
@@giloribello a blower is more efficient than an air compressor in this case because you don't need high pressure. A compressor is going to work fine but with a bigger electricity consumption
nice project.
But i have to complain.
The thumbnail said no blower no electricity, and yet you hook up a blower to it.
Hmm
Why a clickbait thumbnail?
Hello bertjesklotepino,
Thanks for the comment.
Most people enjoy a quick summary of what a video is about or a quick insight into if a video is of interest to why they might want to watch it.
The thumbnail says no blower "required" and "can" run without electricity which are both demonstrated fully at the 7:56 mark on the video, you can see the blower pipe disconnected and on the floor.
This is after showing it running with a blower and then without a blower but with a chimney instead of a blower or electricity. Very versatile.
Thus demonstrating the usefulness of such a furnace/cooktop for most anyone, those who would rather use a mobile unit with a blower and electricity or solar or batteries and those who leave their furnace/cooktop in one place and would prefer a chimney pulling the air out instead of a blower.
So your comment of "The thumbnail said no blower no electricity, " is incorrect, the thumbnail does not say that, you must have accidentally assumed such.
Also, your other comment: "Hmm Why a clickbait thumbnail?" Is again an assumption, I have no need for such abominations, just review the 7:56-57 time again.
Happy waste oil furnace building.
@@learn2farmagain30 Thanks for commenting with a timestamp. I have been looking for one that can run without electricity.
Hey 420Alt,
Thanks for the comment,
Yes, that is an issue, some would like to get rid of the blower even if solar or a phone charger can be used instead of 120v.
Our camping stove video goes over many such options.
However, there is still a blower involved, seems fine since we are not buying the fuel for heat.
But still, there would be a sense of more freedom without a blower needed...I get it.
Especially in countries where the electricity is not as accessible or even if it is suddenly turned off for some reason...we need a way to stay warm, have hot water, and cook!
We have made a few of the diesel heaters with the long pipe and you hang a bottle of diesel up high for pressure and no blower is required (we actually switched from the bottle up high to a common 1 gallon fertilizer sprayer that you pump a few times to pressurize...works great) but you have to use diesel or kerosene etc....that is not free.
It is also not a shop heater...fine to cook on though.
I would rather use a blower with free waste oil.
But again, freedom from the blower would be nice.
We are currently working on a hydrogen "cracking" waste oil furnace that should require no blower.
But that is a secret project to be unveiled in the future if it will work safely.
Happy furnace building.
@@learn2farmagain30 would it perhaps be a possibility to use a stirling engine which runs on heat to power the blower?
So the furnace itself produces the energy needed to run the stirling which then runs a fan mechanically and not electric fan ofcourse.
Maybe an idea?
Hey bertjesklotepino,
Great idea. There are many ways, it really depends on what you already have on hand as opposed to how much you want to spend.
Although if you want to run a component mechanically to get a blower going it would be hard to beat steam powering say an impact wrench to spin a fan blower or steam pressure on fan blades to spin a generator to run a small blower where the steam comes from just a pipe wrapped around the furnace like in our camping stove video or just an enclosed vessel of water with a steam hole or pipe coming out of it.
I think the less mechanical parts the better, but it again depends on budget and what you have lying around the shop.
Keep the ideas coming..🤗
You say "no blower required", but you use blower 🤔
Hi Aleksandar,
Thanks for the comment.
Yes, there is a blower, and yes, it is not required.
Just like the video shows at the 7:56 mark.
You can run it either way with a proper chimney with plenty of draft.
It is easier to start with a blower until the heat rising produces a draft to then pull the air through, or the heat of just lighting and waiting longer for heat to start rising will do it-just takes longer.
So, yes, there is no blower required.
This makes the most versatile setup available, many choices depending on your location and setup.
No chimney-no problem, just use a blower...
If you have a chimney-no problem, you can choose a blower or not.
No tricks here, just pure choices.
And yes, there is no blower required.
@@learn2farmagain30 ok, thank you :)
I agree, the thumbnail you click on clearly states in writing no electricity and fan. The first build is clearly a forced air waste oil heater which gives the blue flame via the ELECTRICITY AND FAN! The second build is Known as a drip fed waste oil heater which relies on draught air with A YELLOW FLAME! Not what we all clicked on for sorry.
Hey hazel berry,
Cool name, thanks for the comment.
I'm hoping you read the above replies to the same topic you are responding to.
In writing it says "no blower required" and "Can run without ANY electricity"
Nothing about I do not use a blower or I never use electricity.
These are very versatile furnaces with many options to suit many different needs all shared on UA-cam for free.
Also, there is no "first build" and "second build".
It is one build with many functions.
It can have blue flame either way, if your chimney is tall enough.
It's best to have a 6" pipe and at least 15 feet of chimney for a proper draft.
Check the 7:56 mark to see the same "build" with the blower removed and before that with the blower connected.
It is nice to have options.
Maybe you were responding to someone else's video accidentally?
I hope you make a great waste oil furnace and share it with everyone.
Hey hazel,
I think I see the problem.
The furnace build can indeed do what the thumbnail says when done properly.
But it seems you assumed the review of old style yellow flame furnaces is what learn2farmagain was promoting when in fact it was just an overview of other furnaces of the past to show the difference in this new furnace that can work either way.
Ya, that old big red 55 gallon barrel does not give blue flame results like this great newer model that can run either way.
Hope that helps.
The music is irritating.
@JonDingle, thanks for the comment,
Yes, it sure would be nice if UA-cam would provide a list of music or songs to choose from right before you watch a video that could be applied to that video, that way everyone could enjoy it more.
Until then some will like the music provided in the video and some will not.
To that I say, thank God for volume control...
Happy furnace building, stay warm...🙂