Take your personal data back with Incogni! Use code FELIX at the link below and get 60% off an annual plan: incogni.com/felix DELAYS all over the place! When will flight 7 launch?
Doesn't the difference between number of views and number of likes (and subscribers) depend partly on YT videos embedded in social media (like X) being registered as views on YT, but likes go to the user who embedded the video in a post. I watch many embedded videos without acessing YT directly.
Yea... the pace Blue Origin has I don't see them doing too many contracts yet this year. Maybe they'll suddenly start making more rockets in months but seeing their launch cadance with New Shepard does not fill me with confidence.
Really looking forward to the new glenn launch. If it's successful, they might just overtake starship, which is still far off from its promised capabilities
@@cyberthanasis also starship can barely make it to a high orbit. It requires a but load of launches to make it to the moon, requiring new tech that they haven’t fully fleshed out and a decent bit of luck along the way. It’s not doing anything significant short term.
@@jfoxtrot24 If Starship Flew as a disposable rocket and just left a few kilogram module like ALL others it would be WAY ahead. But if you are into 1970's tech all good...
Don't dismantle Booster 12. Donate it to a space museum. There are many of these museums across the nation and they'd love to have something like this to put on display.
@@wwoods66 Actually I see large assets like this moved all the time. There are alternate routes that avoid the lower overpasses and bridges. Using roads that can handle the weight, especially if you disassemble as much as possible before shipping. I live in an RV traveling full time and I see massive low boys hauling everything from massive pipelines, bridge structures, even wind turbines some of which are taller than this booster. It can be done if you engage with the right folks.
@ _The shipping will be basically impossible or cost way too much._ Now, this is true. Moving something like this 1500 miles can cost in the millions. But let the Museum pay that. Just tell them "if you can haul it off, you can have it". Some of these larger museums like Stafford Air & Space Museum in Oklahoma could raise the funds through pledge drives that would cover the cost. I'd bet they'd love to have it. And it would be a great attraction for anyone traveling along the I-40 to stop in and see.
@@jebes909090yea it worked, until its heat shield didn’t. Thats why we are still waiting. NASA struggles to realize not everything can be predicted and at some point you have to flight test it to really develop it.
It sounds too much like a "what if" scenarios with BO. They won't be completely written off the market, but there are too many "what ifs" and yet this is Delayed Origin we're talking about here. They don't plan many launches from the beginning either. Even their set 1 launch per month for 2025 seems a bit much for them given their slight incompetence. Customers will continue to prefer SpaceX, which launches every 2-3 days, is reliable and offers the best price. We don't even know how long it will take BO not only to save the first stage, but also to prepare it for another launch. New Glenn has weak first stage thrust for how big the rocket is and that will show with heavier payloads. JARVIS upper stage if they ever have one, it won't be until the 2030s.
The delay from Monday the 13th to Wednesday the 15th was due to the wind forecast. It was obvious for several days prior that a launch on the 13th was not going to happen.
Felix, you kept saying in the near term, but you avoided the elephant on the launch pad. Blue Origin's speed. "Slow is smooth and smooth is fast" that BO's motto. They've been slow alright, but nothing has been smooth. This will likely be their problem unless there's a paradigm shift in their approach.
@@Sarvolos1 only 50 milion? Lol. Yeah with New Glenn it seems quite brave that they have next rocket stages in advanced construction stages, when the design was never tested in real life at all. I guess performance can be calculated well (especially as BE-4 already flew), but during flight testing there can always be some serious issues with the rocket that would require scrapping what they already done - probably not likely, but not impossible.
As always great content guys! How crazy is it that we have gotten so used to a launch cadence that is so frequent we forget Starship is still in development phase and little things can stress us out.. Breathe Felix.. Breathe..
SpaceX currently has at least 8 Starships under active production, either in the StarFactory or the highbays. How many New Glenn's are actively under construction? Does anyone really know? 1? 2? This isn't a race and if it is, SpaceX is the hare and BO is, the turtle.
BO took 15 years to develop an orbital rocket less capable than FH, suggesting that they can develop a fully reusable upper stage Jarvis, a project several orders of magnitude harder, in less than that is pure wishful thinking!
There are so many links in your description it's literally impossible to find anything. I'm not spending 5 minutes reading through random links just to find what I'm looking for.
UA-camrs and video descriptions are not a good match apparently, it's either an empty description for very interesting channels, or peddling merchandise or other related channnels to the point of absolute walltexting. It should just be a concise explanation of the video, with the option of a few links related to the video, NOT related to the channel! Links for the channel are better off in the channel description, but they'll never listen...
You talk as if it's already made it off the launch pad. At least spaceX has proven tech. I could be in orbit last flight after the restart of the raptor motor.
New Glenn will fly successfully on first launch, not everyone seems to grasp that. Different development strategy but these guys know what they are doing and did the necessary ground tests and safety margins in engineering to guarantee success under the real flight conditions. The engineering principles they apply are the ones which allowed the first Space Shuttle and the first Saturn V to fly successfully. As strange as it sounds, Starship is still more experimental than New Glenn with many details yet being figured out. It will likely be more efficient than New Glenn due to this iterative process and has higher ambitions, but it is a misconception that it is more mature.
Operational isn’t really the right term to use for these prototypes. In the rocket industry operational is reserved for when a launch vehicle begins servicing customer missions.
Respectfully, Felix, all the hype you offer about New Glenn is all... well... hypothetical. They haven't even successfully launched it yet. Delay after delay, this ship has yet to prove anything. I know you are a space fan like me, but what has Blue Origin done! A few phallic-shaped space adventures? SpaceX is a proven entity, time and time again. Let New Glenn prove its worthiness after it launches. Love the channel!!
@@jimmorack1124 why are SpaceX fans so irritated and angry at the thought of other rocket companies doing stuff? many of Musk’s projects are also way over hyped and way delayed. He promises deadlines that are almost never met and it’s pretty clear Starship HLS isn’t going to make any of the promises contractual deadlines, yet BO gets raked over the coals by SpaceX fans for some reason. I’m a Space fan for 30 years. I want to see a rich ecosystem of many rockers not a single company. Everyone should be cheering for competition.
@@milandavid7223 How do you figure it's not operational ? They've launched 100% more than Blue origin has... Starship has been to space.... I'm not against blue origin and I'm definitely not against competition but saying starship is not operational is completely ignorant in my opinion.
@@RayCromwell Ray, I guess I simply compare SpaceX as a whole to BO. Countless Falcon launches and landings, Falcon Heavy successes, plus the ongoing advancement of Starship. I am all for other companies joining and uplifting the space race. It benefits everyone. But BO hasn't proven itself yet. That's all I'm saying. I want to see them succeed but they are befuddled with delays and problems. As a fan of space travel, I want to see many companies be part of it. It benefits all of humanity! Thanks for your comment!
Ummm.... SpaceX is the only company with Raptor Engines considering it's their in house engine... First reused(able) full cycle staged combustion engine is what I assume you're meaning though.
You don't get to call yourself an "advanced rocket" until you actually fly. I've got the greatest rocket of all time, but it only exists in my head. New Glenn hasn't even lifted off yet, let alone successfully landed or been reused. Until then, Falcon 9 is still the greatest rocket of all time.
someday we'll get a starbase musical with a scene like the car chopyard in the brave little toaster with starships rolling into the bay to get chopped up singing about how proud they are of their accomplishments one last time
Felix, I think you might want to mention that Rocket Lab has already reach low earth orbit while Blue Origin still have not yet to date. If New Glenn's objective is to reach earth's orbit, it looks like it was over engineered with the amount of propellant and size of ship just to achieve this goal? I understand that it can carry a larger payload, but things can change very quickly with other competitiors if that is it's only objective.
Falcon is like a 4 wheel drive you can run thru the brush in the rain on gravel roads, no problem. New Glenn is a shiny car which needs to be run on new clean roads, put in the garage in the rain. Simple as that.
Ill get excited about blue origin when they actually launch something … at this point they are a tech company building a tech demo, not a space transportation company
6:42 I keep hearing claims that NewGlenn is more capable than Falcon Heavy in high energy orbits. Officially NG can send less than half the payload to GTO than FH (13t vs 26t), is there any evidence for the contrary?
Lots of conjecture about capabilities and high energy orbits without evidence: As it stands we know the following: Falcon Heavy fully expendable= 26.7t to GTO for $150 million Falcon Heavy center core exp.= ~21t to GTO for $100 million Starship V2 fullyt reusable = ~18t to GTO for probably half the price of FH New Glenn booster recovery = 13t to GTO for $150m (Kuiper internal cost was $100m)
Also, I would not see blue Origin charging less or close to spacex for launches. And all valcon heavy would need is a slightly larger fering to put a extra 5 tons up and be on a rocket that's actually proven itself unlike new Glenn
Making a specialized starling version to only starship is great because once it comes back you just reuse it 10 times and it just sounds wonderful. If you make another you can launch 10 more. Later on you can make a special version to go somewhere else like Mars. Or put spikes on it so it can dig into the lunar soil.
@@schrodingerscat1863 The payload is obviously much smaller but since 2nd stage is thrown away they can just push it as far as possible. I do still hope for a Starship with opening fairing so they can just release anothing craft that can fly to the moon or where ever needed.
EXCATLY! Yet they have double the government funding... It's disgusting and a embarrassment and just goes to show the complete incompetence of the government cronies
I love your unbounded confidence that New Glenn will actually Launch and Successfully land, and that it will actually Compete with the SpaceX rockets for launching paying Payloads out into Space … I trust Rocketlab will manage to orbit before they have sorted out the bugs in New Glen and had a successful Launch. I’m not waiting in anticipation …
It seems like the difference between SpaceX and Blue Origin is like that of Android and Apple. We all have a favorite and trash talk the other a bit, or a lot.
Good to hear positivity all round, Space X, Blue Origin and Space Lab (although no mention of dream chaser), good to have competition and different approaches. Busy few weeks.
I don't get the fanboyism when it comes to private rockets. I am a big SpaceX fan, but if Blue Origin does well, we all win. Competition is good, and I want them all to succeed.
This is why I believe that you are wrong about Blue Origin catching up on SpaceX: While your video suggests that Blue Origin might be catching up to SpaceX, you’re not accounting for the fact that SpaceX is working at full throttle as well. All they need is to successfully catch the Booster and Starship, and once that’s achieved, production at Starbase will skyrocket. At that point, Blue Origin won’t stand a chance of keeping up. SpaceX has consistently demonstrated exceptional speed in rocket development, and without someone like Elon at the helm, Blue Origin simply won’t be able to compete. And keep in mind, Starbase is not the only place where they will mass produce Starship in the future. The fact that SpaceX has built a factory specifically to mass-produce Starship is something Blue Origin will never do. They don’t have the interest or the need for as many rockets as SpaceX. In reality, there’s no real competition between Starship and New Glenn since Starship’s primary goal is Mars and beyond, while New Glenn’s main purpose is to launch satellites into orbit. Or atleast that's the setup for Glenn right now :) As always.. Great video, Felix :) And thank you
If SpaceX gets the contract to pick up the samples on Mars, it will probably use it's manned version of Starship but the crew will be a couple of Xbots.
Bro , i like your channel but , its like tv with all the commercials , sorry but hey . I cut down my comcast xfinity by 200.00 for taking what i call , over doing the capitalisim
If you want it for free, make it for yourself. Then you'll find out it's not really free. Keep doing what you're doing, Felix. Awesome content and I look forward to each and every video.
If new Glenn has taken over 20 years to come to fruition in terms of an orbital class rocket. For them to just build an already designed new glenn tank takes years, so in that regard by the time BO Makes New Armstrong and puts it into service, SpaceX will have already been to Mars and have 2 or 3 Successors to Starship...and Raptor
The mars samples have been dropped onto the surface of Mars where they were placed to eventually be picked up by whatever machine is sent to the surface for that specific job. they are not placed on the Curiosity as mentioned.
Given that Booster 12 is slightly older technology I wonder if they will want to use it again. I also wonder if it's worth cutting open and _stretching_ or if it would just be easier to make a new booster. Having slightly out of date hardware that has survived is a good problem to have (vs it having crashed or sunk)
I enjoy your show Felix, you're a good commentator. The real reason is NewGlen flies first, that's it that's all... Starship goes after!! very shortly after...
I totally agree with you, Felix, BO is much more advanced Look at all their "firsts"..... - Setting up operations and testing in Texas, making it the new home for space - Using Methalox instead of RP-1 - Using Stainless Steel instead of Carbon Fiber - Reusability of first stage - First stage landing with unfolding legs on an autonomous drone ship
If new Glenn can only launch once every two years - its useless, there is an assumption been made Blue Origin will be launching in the same cadence like SpaceX - that wont happen at all. If they can only launch once every two years and it takes 5 launches to iron out the kinks thats ten years.
@ just how it is, look at SLS and other rocket companies. None of them progress at the rate that SpaceX does. “Elon time” does not exist in this companies - that’s why. When sh|t hits the fan Elon rolls up his sleeves and gets involved and not only that he has worked on the desk designing rockets, there is no hiding behind any BS when it comes to Elon. That’s why SpaceX is with 350Bn
Starship has 2 goals. Launch Starlink an go to Mars. Everything else is secondary. New Glenn is to take things into space. 2 different purposes for these ships. Both will co exist.
When they scrap a starship or a booster what do they do with the scrap metal. Do they store it on site or do they truck it back off site to be recycled at the factory? Which begs the question would it be better to have a factory that makes steel close to the starship?
Really hard to compare the two. They just have very different goals. If they wanted to not reuse the upper stage, space x could have a prototype so dang quick, with no flaps or heat shield and a huge payload door. With all that weight savings, they could put absolutely massive payloads in any orbit they want within 6 months lol.
New glens does have a few advantages over both Falcon 9 and Starship. If we compare New Glen to Falcon 9 it have a much bigger payload bay, more payload and it uses methane that is less maintenance intensive. While Falcon heavy can launch the same payload, if not higher, that is with the added cost of 2 more boasters. I expected New glen to get a lower cost per kg to orbit than Falcon 9, and considerably so better than falcon heavy. This on top that it can carry larger loads. Star ship will of cause have a even lower cost per kg to orbit than new glen, on the flip side, Star ship is really to large for a log of loads. If you are not sending up huge amounts of medium size satellites, or some really large. So if you are not launching fuel, bulk satellites, a moon rocket or really anything that is not bulk or really large, new glen may be the better option anyway.... Well for now.
New Glenn uses 2 different fuels and one of them is Hydrogen which is the hardest fuel by far to use. Falcon Heavy is much more capable than NG, 64t to LEO, 26.7t to GTO vs 45t and 13t respectively. Reusing the 2 boosters it takes only a 10% penalty and is much cheaper than NG (90-100m vs 100-150m for NG) New Glenn has a larger fairing as an advantage, but thats something that isn't really needed in this launch market (FH never needed the larger fairing and only use it for a couple spaceforce launches).
If the New Glenn booster does a RUD on landing, how long will it be before they have a replacement? Do they have another in the pipeline? Do they even have enough BE engines for a new booster?
I don’t think Falcon rocket will be end of life, when starship goes online, the same reason why you small and mid-range rockets. Why waste huge amount of fuel for small payload.
Shepard was the first american to reach space, New Shepard is a rocket which reach space without entering any orbit. Glenn was the first american to reach orbit, New Glenn will be a rocket to reach (let a paylod enter) orbit. Armstrong was the first american to land on the Moon, sooo, keeping that pattern, New Armstrong should be either a moon lander or a rocket built to moon missions XD
10:00 While you're right here, you're assuming that New Glen somehow instantly becomes viable. Considering that Bozo barely, if at all, actually makes it to space, he never done much more, realistically, than a well-funded hobbyist can do. He's never even pretended to make anything move fast enough to be considered as even potentially orbital. So... NG1 is really nothing better than infinitely more money to accomplish little more than what Hoppy did!
To compete with SpaceX on profitable contracts BO needs to buy out ULA contracts and then prove it can fly reliably and cheaper _ an unlikely possibility in the short/medium term. So, it's no competition.
Can Superheavy carry a Non-reusable starship that can reach higher orbits? Or can do the superheavy and starship totally non reusable for some specialized mission?
Take your personal data back with Incogni! Use code FELIX at the link below and get 60% off an annual plan: incogni.com/felix
DELAYS all over the place! When will flight 7 launch?
Doesn't the difference between number of views and number of likes (and subscribers) depend partly on YT videos embedded in social media (like X) being registered as views on YT, but likes go to the user who embedded the video in a post. I watch many embedded videos without acessing YT directly.
Just to clarify, as you said Starship is not online. Neither is New Glenn. And New Glen has yet to fly, never mind land.
Yea... the pace Blue Origin has I don't see them doing too many contracts yet this year. Maybe they'll suddenly start making more rockets in months but seeing their launch cadance with New Shepard does not fill me with confidence.
@Qwarzz they have four more. Next will be in a few months.
Really looking forward to the new glenn launch. If it's successful, they might just overtake starship, which is still far off from its promised capabilities
@@cyberthanasis also starship can barely make it to a high orbit. It requires a but load of launches to make it to the moon, requiring new tech that they haven’t fully fleshed out and a decent bit of luck along the way. It’s not doing anything significant short term.
@@jfoxtrot24 If Starship Flew as a disposable rocket and just left a few kilogram module like ALL others it would be WAY ahead. But if you are into 1970's tech all good...
The photo of the astronaut standing on the moon, the one labeled as "Neil," is actually Buzz Aldrin.
Don't dismantle Booster 12. Donate it to a space museum. There are many of these museums across the nation and they'd love to have something like this to put on display.
The shipping will be basically impossible or cost way too much.
Delivery would be an issue. Just moving the first Falcon 9 from Texas to Florida posed problems, with highway overpasses and such.
@@wwoods66 Actually I see large assets like this moved all the time. There are alternate routes that avoid the lower overpasses and bridges. Using roads that can handle the weight, especially if you disassemble as much as possible before shipping. I live in an RV traveling full time and I see massive low boys hauling everything from massive pipelines, bridge structures, even wind turbines some of which are taller than this booster. It can be done if you engage with the right folks.
Probably too new for a museum.
@ _The shipping will be basically impossible or cost way too much._
Now, this is true. Moving something like this 1500 miles can cost in the millions. But let the Museum pay that. Just tell them "if you can haul it off, you can have it". Some of these larger museums like Stafford Air & Space Museum in Oklahoma could raise the funds through pledge drives that would cover the cost. I'd bet they'd love to have it. And it would be a great attraction for anyone traveling along the I-40 to stop in and see.
Insane that they're developing an entire orbital rocket in the time it takes to launch SLS twice
@@MaximumMatador sls worked
@@jebes909090 It better work, it cost over a billion dollars.
@@jebes909090yea it worked, until its heat shield didn’t. Thats why we are still waiting. NASA struggles to realize not everything can be predicted and at some point you have to flight test it to really develop it.
@@McClainJ SLS/Orion has cost almost 50 billion dollars so far, that first launch was over 4.2 billion alone.
New Glenn isn't anything yet. Maybe we should see it clear the tower before showering it in praise.
Yes I agree, maybe we show see if Blue Orgy can even put ANYTHING into orbit.
Exactly!
A lot of hype for a rocket that has never flown and will probably blow up in flight.
It sounds too much like a "what if" scenarios with BO. They won't be completely written off the market, but there are too many "what ifs" and yet this is Delayed Origin we're talking about here. They don't plan many launches from the beginning either. Even their set 1 launch per month for 2025 seems a bit much for them given their slight incompetence. Customers will continue to prefer SpaceX, which launches every 2-3 days, is reliable and offers the best price. We don't even know how long it will take BO not only to save the first stage, but also to prepare it for another launch. New Glenn has weak first stage thrust for how big the rocket is and that will show with heavier payloads. JARVIS upper stage if they ever have one, it won't be until the 2030s.
The delay from Monday the 13th to Wednesday the 15th was due to the wind forecast. It was obvious for several days prior that a launch on the 13th was not going to happen.
3:54 What a piece of ship...
it won't be a "someone to grab the sample", it will be an optimus robot!
That’s a whole Lotta “if’s” stacked on top of each other! good luck with that blue origin!
Felix, you kept saying in the near term, but you avoided the elephant on the launch pad. Blue Origin's speed. "Slow is smooth and smooth is fast" that BO's motto. They've been slow alright, but nothing has been smooth. This will likely be their problem unless there's a paradigm shift in their approach.
Sir, the engineers were 1 digit off in their calculations. We have to completely reconstruct the rocket and spend an additional 50 million
@@Sarvolos1 only 50 milion? Lol. Yeah with New Glenn it seems quite brave that they have next rocket stages in advanced construction stages, when the design was never tested in real life at all. I guess performance can be calculated well (especially as BE-4 already flew), but during flight testing there can always be some serious issues with the rocket that would require scrapping what they already done - probably not likely, but not impossible.
As always great content guys! How crazy is it that we have gotten so used to a launch cadence that is so frequent we forget Starship is still in development phase and little things can stress us out.. Breathe Felix.. Breathe..
"piece of ship" is right up there with "crude spacecraft"
🎯
Well spotted, ship happens ...
Lmao. 😂
I am happy this is at the top, just wanted to comment this
Lol I had to skip back I was like 'did I hear that right?'
Name of my boat
SpaceX currently has at least 8 Starships under active production, either in the StarFactory or the highbays. How many New Glenn's are actively under construction? Does anyone really know? 1? 2? This isn't a race and if it is, SpaceX is the hare and BO is, the turtle.
BO took 15 years to develop an orbital rocket less capable than FH, suggesting that they can develop a fully reusable upper stage Jarvis, a project several orders of magnitude harder, in less than that is pure wishful thinking!
Pretty lofty plans for new Glen when it haven’t proved itself yet
in fairness it started development around the same time as starship
@@verticalfracture5683 sadly your statement is not true.. please research again.
@@srpk_khin design work on both started in 2012
@@srpk_khin why do you say so? Weren't both programs born in the early 2010's?
Are a million people to Mars lofty enough for Starship, which hasn't reached orbit yet?
A whole lot is being made of Blue Glenn when it has done nothing to this point. It could turn out to be a bigger boondoggle than SLS..
The delay in Starship Flight 7 reminds us how precision and patience are key in aerospace. Progress takes time, and it’s worth it.
*Looks at the real age of Aerospace in the 50s, 60s, and 70s* Sure, cope however you wish.
@@rh906There are plenty of delays on Apollo launches
@@rh906why are you annoying
There are so many links in your description it's literally impossible to find anything. I'm not spending 5 minutes reading through random links just to find what I'm looking for.
Agreed
UA-camrs and video descriptions are not a good match apparently, it's either an empty description for very interesting channels, or peddling merchandise or other related channnels to the point of absolute walltexting. It should just be a concise explanation of the video, with the option of a few links related to the video, NOT related to the channel! Links for the channel are better off in the channel description, but they'll never listen...
You talk as if it's already made it off the launch pad. At least spaceX has proven tech. I could be in orbit last flight after the restart of the raptor motor.
New Glenn will fly successfully on first launch, not everyone seems to grasp that. Different development strategy but these guys know what they are doing and did the necessary ground tests and safety margins in engineering to guarantee success under the real flight conditions. The engineering principles they apply are the ones which allowed the first Space Shuttle and the first Saturn V to fly successfully. As strange as it sounds, Starship is still more experimental than New Glenn with many details yet being figured out. It will likely be more efficient than New Glenn due to this iterative process and has higher ambitions, but it is a misconception that it is more mature.
Operational isn’t really the right term to use for these prototypes. In the rocket industry operational is reserved for when a launch vehicle begins servicing customer missions.
I think it's more likely they will preserve a full starship when they catch both the booster and the ship - a pair that has flown together.
@@dominicdodd9759 they should, because Starships pair has been their poster boy since SpaceX's Inception
That would be an awesome exhibit, I would definitely be tempted to go see that.
Respectfully, Felix, all the hype you offer about New Glenn is all... well... hypothetical. They haven't even successfully launched it yet. Delay after delay, this ship has yet to prove anything. I know you are a space fan like me, but what has Blue Origin done! A few phallic-shaped space adventures? SpaceX is a proven entity, time and time again. Let New Glenn prove its worthiness after it launches. Love the channel!!
@@jimmorack1124 why are SpaceX fans so irritated and angry at the thought of other rocket companies doing stuff? many of Musk’s projects are also way over hyped and way delayed. He promises deadlines that are almost never met and it’s pretty clear Starship HLS isn’t going to make any of the promises contractual deadlines, yet BO gets raked over the coals by SpaceX fans for some reason.
I’m a Space fan for 30 years. I want to see a rich ecosystem of many rockers not a single company. Everyone should be cheering for competition.
I'm all for SpaceX, but let's not pretend that Starhip is anywhere near operational either
@@milandavid7223 I totally agree. Still got a way to go.
@@milandavid7223
How do you figure it's not operational ?
They've launched 100% more than Blue origin has... Starship has been to space.... I'm not against blue origin and I'm definitely not against competition but saying starship is not operational is completely ignorant in my opinion.
@@RayCromwell Ray, I guess I simply compare SpaceX as a whole to BO. Countless Falcon launches and landings, Falcon Heavy successes, plus the ongoing advancement of Starship. I am all for other companies joining and uplifting the space race. It benefits everyone. But BO hasn't proven itself yet. That's all I'm saying. I want to see them succeed but they are befuddled with delays and problems. As a fan of space travel, I want to see many companies be part of it. It benefits all of humanity! Thanks for your comment!
2:51 "...as I think the anticipation is going to give me a heart attack.." hahahahaha Me too!!
If SpaceX successively launches next Starship, it will finally be known for having the first reusable Raptor engine.
Ummm.... SpaceX is the only company with Raptor Engines considering it's their in house engine... First reused(able) full cycle staged combustion engine is what I assume you're meaning though.
You don't get to call yourself an "advanced rocket" until you actually fly. I've got the greatest rocket of all time, but it only exists in my head. New Glenn hasn't even lifted off yet, let alone successfully landed or been reused. Until then, Falcon 9 is still the greatest rocket of all time.
Nah, the rockets that launch the Soyuz gets that title, hard for Americans to swallow, but thats how it is.
@@johns5558
...and those are reusable too?
Not even close my friend. lmao!
I hope they don’t scrap B12. I don’t think it’s likely though given they repaired one of the chines that broke during the catch.
I'd hate to see it go! Fingers crossed!!!
This booster made history in SpaceX and the world, they shouldn't scrap it.
And it's just one New Glenn... against... how much? 35 Starships? And when StarFactory becomes fully operational... hasta la vista Blue
someday we'll get a starbase musical with a scene like the car chopyard in the brave little toaster with starships rolling into the bay to get chopped up singing about how proud they are of their accomplishments one last time
New Glenn has contracts,and it hasn't even flown yet. Wth...
That is quite normal. Vulcan had quite a queue as well. Not that it has flown many of them yet...
Felix, I think you might want to mention that Rocket Lab has already reach low earth orbit while Blue Origin still have not yet to date. If New Glenn's objective is to reach earth's orbit, it looks like it was over engineered with the amount of propellant and size of ship just to achieve this goal? I understand that it can carry a larger payload, but things can change very quickly with other competitiors if that is it's only objective.
Meanwhile many other companies with small rockets are either cancelling the vehicle or go belly up
Falcon is like a 4 wheel drive you can run thru the brush in the rain on gravel roads, no problem. New Glenn is a shiny car which needs to be run on new clean roads, put in the garage in the rain. Simple as that.
Elaborate. I don’t understand what the big difference is.
Ill get excited about blue origin when they actually launch something … at this point they are a tech company building a tech demo, not a space transportation company
A good analysis that we haven't heard from other space commentators as far as I know. It's going to be a busy Wednesday and Thursday morning.
6:42 I keep hearing claims that NewGlenn is more capable than Falcon Heavy in high energy orbits. Officially NG can send less than half the payload to GTO than FH (13t vs 26t), is there any evidence for the contrary?
Lots of conjecture about capabilities and high energy orbits without evidence: As it stands we know the following:
Falcon Heavy fully expendable= 26.7t to GTO for $150 million
Falcon Heavy center core exp.= ~21t to GTO for $100 million
Starship V2 fullyt reusable = ~18t to GTO for probably half the price of FH
New Glenn booster recovery = 13t to GTO for $150m (Kuiper internal cost was $100m)
Also, I would not see blue Origin charging less or close to spacex for launches. And all valcon heavy would need is a slightly larger fering to put a extra 5 tons up and be on a rocket that's actually proven itself unlike new Glenn
Making a specialized starling version to only starship is great because once it comes back you just reuse it 10 times and it just sounds wonderful. If you make another you can launch 10 more. Later on you can make a special version to go somewhere else like Mars. Or put spikes on it so it can dig into the lunar soil.
New glenn should not be compared with starship, its cargo is lower then super heavy's. (bad english)
It can throw something to the moon much easier tho. Starship is pretty much stuck at low Earth orbit until it can be refueled.
@@QwarzzNew Glenn upper stage delta-V is pretty bad past LEO due to mass fraction. Blue Origin human lander can't avoid orbital refueling either
@@Qwarzz Unless what it is carrying can get to the moon on it's own. If the payload is 200 tones that's a pretty big 3rd stage.
@@schrodingerscat1863 The payload is obviously much smaller but since 2nd stage is thrown away they can just push it as far as possible.
I do still hope for a Starship with opening fairing so they can just release anothing craft that can fly to the moon or where ever needed.
Real Hype for tomorrow!
You're my go to creator for SpaceX/Starship news. Keep up the awesome work.
Starship has been proven it can fly and New glen has not even left the stand in one piece .
14:43 That's Aldrin on the left, not Armstrong. And yes, I know it's Armstrong's reflection in his visor.
One of the good things about space is that it is not a 'winner takes all' competition.
The weather is not good. Even tomorrow the 15th is doubtful due to high winds forecast and rain.
I guess Felix has forgotten about all of the payload door development for lunar starship.
Funny....BO has done nothing.
EXCATLY! Yet they have double the government funding... It's disgusting and a embarrassment and just goes to show the complete incompetence of the government cronies
Atleast they didnt build sls
Lol! Sad but true...
New Shepard
I love your unbounded confidence that New Glenn will actually Launch and Successfully land, and that it will actually Compete with the SpaceX rockets for launching paying Payloads out into Space … I trust Rocketlab will manage to orbit before they have sorted out the bugs in New Glen and had a successful Launch. I’m not waiting in anticipation …
It seems like the difference between SpaceX and Blue Origin is like that of Android and Apple. We all have a favorite and trash talk the other a bit, or a lot.
Precisely.
Except one actually works. Other is just a store display model that promises you the moon.
I am down here right now to watch the launch. It was pretty windy Monday. Today’s a slight drizzle. Hopefully I get to see the launch.
to much chill in the videos man
Good to hear positivity all round, Space X, Blue Origin and Space Lab (although no mention of dream chaser), good to have competition and different approaches. Busy few weeks.
One of your best episodes, Felix. Keep it up!
I don't get the fanboyism when it comes to private rockets. I am a big SpaceX fan, but if Blue Origin does well, we all win. Competition is good, and I want them all to succeed.
This is why I believe that you are wrong about Blue Origin catching up on SpaceX:
While your video suggests that Blue Origin might be catching up to SpaceX, you’re not accounting for the fact that SpaceX is working at full throttle as well. All they need is to successfully catch the Booster and Starship, and once that’s achieved, production at Starbase will skyrocket. At that point, Blue Origin won’t stand a chance of keeping up. SpaceX has consistently demonstrated exceptional speed in rocket development, and without someone like Elon at the helm, Blue Origin simply won’t be able to compete. And keep in mind, Starbase is not the only place where they will mass produce Starship in the future.
The fact that SpaceX has built a factory specifically to mass-produce Starship is something Blue Origin will never do. They don’t have the interest or the need for as many rockets as SpaceX. In reality, there’s no real competition between Starship and New Glenn since Starship’s primary goal is Mars and beyond, while New Glenn’s main purpose is to launch satellites into orbit. Or atleast that's the setup for Glenn right now :)
As always.. Great video, Felix :) And thank you
15:43 way has nuwglen a Starship upper stage😂
If SpaceX gets the contract to pick up the samples on Mars, it will probably use it's manned version of Starship but the crew will be a couple of Xbots.
New Glenn is only a potential competitor if and when it can get off the pad.
Until then it’s just a very expensive prototype.
Neil Armstrong was the first to walk on the moon... Not the first to land. He shared the first landing milestone with Buzz Aldrin.
Bro , i like your channel but , its like tv with all the commercials , sorry but hey . I cut down my comcast xfinity by 200.00 for taking what i call , over doing the capitalisim
Use the sponsor block browser addon, it skips all that, assuming your watching from a PC that is, i am not sure if there is a mobile version.
he spends his time making us awesome content. let him make his money in peace. wait the 5 seconds and click skip
Nothing is free.
If you want it for free, make it for yourself. Then you'll find out it's not really free.
Keep doing what you're doing, Felix. Awesome content and I look forward to each and every video.
Pay for premium or go whine to your boyfriend.
If new Glenn has taken over 20 years to come to fruition in terms of an orbital class rocket. For them to just build an already designed new glenn tank takes years, so in that regard by the time BO Makes New Armstrong and puts it into service, SpaceX will have already been to Mars and have 2 or 3 Successors to Starship...and Raptor
Not someone (to go out and grab the samples on Mars), but something, namely, Optimus...
The left-aligned (my POV) of the 'RAPTOR-3' print on your T-shirts keeps triggering my OCD! 🤨
The mars samples have been dropped onto the surface of Mars where they were placed to eventually be picked up by whatever machine is sent to the surface for that specific job. they are not placed on the Curiosity as mentioned.
Given that Booster 12 is slightly older technology I wonder if they will want to use it again.
I also wonder if it's worth cutting open and _stretching_ or if it would just be easier to make a new booster.
Having slightly out of date hardware that has survived is a good problem to have (vs it having crashed or sunk)
Excellent comprehensive report!
Thank you!
I enjoy your show Felix, you're a good commentator. The real reason is NewGlen flies first, that's it that's all... Starship goes after!! very shortly after...
I totally agree with you, Felix, BO is much more advanced Look at all their "firsts".....
- Setting up operations and testing in Texas, making it the new home for space
- Using Methalox instead of RP-1
- Using Stainless Steel instead of Carbon Fiber
- Reusability of first stage
- First stage landing with unfolding legs on an autonomous drone ship
I suspect the first successfully caught booster will suffer the same fate as the first Starship to land successfully (without blowing up later)
If new Glenn can only launch once every two years - its useless, there is an assumption been made Blue Origin will be launching in the same cadence like SpaceX - that wont happen at all. If they can only launch once every two years and it takes 5 launches to iron out the kinks thats ten years.
Why would it only launch every two years?
@ just how it is, look at SLS and other rocket companies. None of them progress at the rate that SpaceX does. “Elon time” does not exist in this companies - that’s why. When sh|t hits the fan Elon rolls up his sleeves and gets involved and not only that he has worked on the desk designing rockets, there is no hiding behind any BS when it comes to Elon. That’s why SpaceX is with 350Bn
Perhaps you are confusing New Glenn for SLS?
Blue Origin has 4 New Glenn in various stages of production with another aiming to launch in the spring.
@@Barthhhelona no confusion, that was an example, took them ten years to get to this first launch.
@@pintail120 Actually took them more than 15 years. BO was designing a heavy lifter to launch their (now cancelled) biconic capsule since before 2010.
Starship has 2 goals. Launch Starlink an go to Mars. Everything else is secondary. New Glenn is to take things into space. 2 different purposes for these ships. Both will co exist.
understandable for ship 33 cuz perfection is the key so we will wait for its launch
When they scrap a starship or a booster what do they do with the scrap metal. Do they store it on site or do they truck it back off site to be recycled at the factory? Which begs the question would it be better to have a factory that makes steel close to the starship?
Recycling steel is a norm
Really hard to compare the two. They just have very different goals. If they wanted to not reuse the upper stage, space x could have a prototype so dang quick, with no flaps or heat shield and a huge payload door. With all that weight savings, they could put absolutely massive payloads in any orbit they want within 6 months lol.
New Glenn is more conservative while spaceX simply shoots rockets
New glens does have a few advantages over both Falcon 9 and Starship.
If we compare New Glen to Falcon 9 it have a much bigger payload bay, more payload and it uses methane that is less maintenance intensive. While Falcon heavy can launch the same payload, if not higher, that is with the added cost of 2 more boasters. I expected New glen to get a lower cost per kg to orbit than Falcon 9, and considerably so better than falcon heavy. This on top that it can carry larger loads.
Star ship will of cause have a even lower cost per kg to orbit than new glen, on the flip side, Star ship is really to large for a log of loads. If you are not sending up huge amounts of medium size satellites, or some really large. So if you are not launching fuel, bulk satellites, a moon rocket or really anything that is not bulk or really large, new glen may be the better option anyway.... Well for now.
New Glenn uses 2 different fuels and one of them is Hydrogen which is the hardest fuel by far to use.
Falcon Heavy is much more capable than NG, 64t to LEO, 26.7t to GTO vs 45t and 13t respectively. Reusing the 2 boosters it takes only a 10% penalty and is much cheaper than NG (90-100m vs 100-150m for NG)
New Glenn has a larger fairing as an advantage, but thats something that isn't really needed in this launch market (FH never needed the larger fairing and only use it for a couple spaceforce launches).
Optimus will grab that sample
If the New Glenn booster does a RUD on landing, how long will it be before they have a replacement?
Do they have another in the pipeline?
Do they even have enough BE engines for a new booster?
4:07 You maybe take a look on the up to date ones and not the ones from half a year ago...
What happens when rain falls on the top of the Booster? What about when the water/ice gets in the vacuum of space?
wonder when they will test the moon starship with legs. and does BO only have the one rocket then ??
It will always be "two years" away.
That yellow shirt looks nice. I had to order the black one because I'm a messy eater.
B12 could be placed next to Hoppy (1st's) or an additive for a new batch after it's mashed. Go SpaceX +/-
This is like Starwars but a change of name to Battle of the Billionaires!
When you said "finally happened" y thought "what did I miss!!!"
I don’t think Falcon rocket will be end of life, when starship goes online, the same reason why you small and mid-range rockets. Why waste huge amount of fuel for small payload.
Träum weiter Felix!!!
Shepard was the first american to reach space, New Shepard is a rocket which reach space without entering any orbit.
Glenn was the first american to reach orbit, New Glenn will be a rocket to reach (let a paylod enter) orbit.
Armstrong was the first american to land on the Moon, sooo, keeping that pattern, New Armstrong should be either a moon lander or a rocket built to moon missions XD
Which begs the question, why did they name it blue moon instead of New Armstrong
10:00 While you're right here, you're assuming that New Glen somehow instantly becomes viable. Considering that Bozo barely, if at all, actually makes it to space, he never done much more, realistically, than a well-funded hobbyist can do. He's never even pretended to make anything move fast enough to be considered as even potentially orbital. So... NG1 is really nothing better than infinitely more money to accomplish little more than what Hoppy did!
To compete with SpaceX on profitable contracts BO needs to buy out ULA contracts and then prove it can fly reliably and cheaper _ an unlikely possibility in the short/medium term. So, it's no competition.
I'm with u...the suspense is killing me also lol
Who else here refuses to subscribe just because felix keeps badgering them to do so ?
I refuse because of lol
Agreed he's like a Jehovah Witness smh. We all know to like and subscribe, maybe if he would stop begging so damn thirsty about it I would
We content creators really need you to subscribe if you like what you see. It determines monetization, which is why we do these things.
Why wouldn't you subscribe if you are a regular viewer?
Maybe they forgot to fix the tower comms issue
Booster 12 and a Block 1 or 2 Starship would look awesome at the Brownsville airport… just saying
Would like to see Saturn V in that picture with all the rockets... I understand it's history.
RE. Starship payload, why not plan for boosters like Falcon heavy?
Can Superheavy carry a Non-reusable starship that can reach higher orbits? Or can do the superheavy and starship totally non reusable for some specialized mission?
9:02 Sponsorship ends here
@@krzyslan3684 doing the work of the gods sir
use sponsorblock