Thank God for the truth that is revealed through you by the Holy Spirit Bishop Barron may the Lord Jesus continue to strengthen and encourage you by His grace
Perfect! Now THAT’s a lecture on the Law and Freedom!!! The learning to play golf was the ‘ light bulb on’ moment…on the purpose of the Law! No one will forget the purpose of the Law and the enhancements of the Law! ♥️✝️.
I am not religious and yet I have a great respect for Bishop Bannon! It's a pity we don't have others like him! Mind you that doesn't mean I agree 100 % with him - but I always like hearing him and would love to meet him and have many discussions with him !
Thanks to Bishop Barron, I love to preach about the beauty of the law and the Old Testament. Thank you! May God bless your ministry! St. Ireneus of Lyon, pray for him!
The law internalize...gives value...it beautifies... English, the beauty of the 8 parts of speech...in golf, the signature swing of Seve Ballesteros...in marriage, the wedding of the old and new testament, the second Luminous mystery. God in words and action... God bless you Bishop Barron and Word on Fire cast and crew...
"...INTENSIFIED AND INTERIORISED"...bingo!!...this IS The Crux!!...What Our Lord JESUS is proclaiming in its full essence really is: Jn.14: 23 “If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word. My Father will love him, and We will come to him and make Our home with him."...indeed, yes, JESUS Wants that not just outwardly, but our Hearts are cleansed...as to make them Holy: only then can GOD Make A Dwelling Within us...Which really IS WHAT GOD WANTS...indeed, dear Bishop Barron, Your proclamation(s) from The Pulpit IS The Voice of The Holy Spirit🙇♂️...we all need to take heed...GOD Bless!!!
This is excellent! I sometimes use a similar analogy when discussing high end systematic theology and scripture and why they sometimes don't seem to match on the surface: theology is like physics while reading scripture is like baseball.
GOD BLESS YOU BISHOP BARRON.. I FOLLOW YOU EVERYDAY AS A NEW CATHOLIC I THINK AND KNOW IN MY HUMBLE OOINION YOU TO BE THE BEST THERE IS NEXT TO POPE JOHN PAUL II AND POPE BENEDECIT 😇😇😇😇😇😇😇
You have described the concept development. The law of development sets you free. You have developed your English and golf skills. Development can become easier when natural laws are followed. The prophets have provided knowledge of the law. Thank you, Bishop Barron Amen
Judith Moore It is always a joy and pleasure to listen to Robert he expresses all with such clarity, sense, and power. Thank you for visiting our shores.
Thank you Bishop. I find the analogy of God's law and freedom with the use of grammar in languages very true, I heard it first from your Catholicism documentary. Freedom cannot exist by itself, ruled by itself. Freedom contains us so that we can do all things good and at the end, to see God face to face.
Funny and wonderful thought, whenever I see BB speak , I can’t help but think of his parents. I bet they never for a moment thought that their son would make such an amazing mark on all of us. Thank you .
🌺Thank you for this beautiful "sermonette", Your Excellency, Bishop Barron! 🌺 May we all love to take His law, The Holy Eucharist, into our hearts! 🌺I wish you, your family, and everyone in this channel a truly blessed weekend, and the best Lent ever! 🌺Jeremiah 31:31 "Behold, the days are coming, says the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and the house of Judah..." 🌺King David, please pray for us! 🌺Saint Paul, please pray for us! 🌺Saint Thomas Aquinas, please pray for us! ⚜️Only You, Lord⚜️ (Nisi Te Domine)
One of my favorite sermons by Bishop Barron. Never tire of it. Such a touchstone for me. In this world where so many people want to create their own law because they want to be 'free', it is wonderful to hear how the LAW really sets us free.
In order to really understand what is freedom we must experience what is the opposite of freedom. Ex. In order understand light we must experience what is darkness. And the opposite of freedom is that we are all imprisoned. And what is the purpose of the law? It is to submit us, train us, to regulate us, austere us and lead us to purify our dirts in our consciousness. And everything will become clearer and clearer. And in that process can only lead us to real knowledge then lead us to real surrender - sweet surrender to the Supreme Personality of Godhead.
Your Grace, this is the best explanation on these words of Jesus I have ever heard. Thank you. I pray I'll remember this homily whenever I get into a conversation about religion with anyone!
Thank you so much for the homily. I love the relationship between the Law and the Eucharist and the quote from Jeremiah 31:31. Thank you so much Bishop Baron
These verses are timeless and cannot be repeated too many times. Beautiful liturgical explanations by His Excellence Bishop Robert Barron, Bishop of Rochester and Winona MN., his homilies are eloquently broken down and dissolved, so easily absorbed and infused into the minds of listeners as always. May God continually bless his Excellence.
So clear, really truthful. I have always been feeling suffocated by laws and freedom was to me to do what I will. But to hear you say that freedom is the ability to do a certain good effortlessly and that laws serve to inculcate in me the virtues that enable me to be free has been really noval and at the same liberating. Thanks bishop Barron, may God bless you abundantly and greetings from Uganda, Africa.
@@JCRARSZQ That type of freedom is freedom of choice but that is not all that there is to freedom. Actually freedom of choice when used responsibly becomes a means of acquiring good habits that help inculcate virtues in someone which in the end enable him or her to attain the freedom (easiness) to do the good effortlessly and adhere to objective truth. The freedom that is being described here is what John Paul II describes as "obedience to objective and universal truth" (John Paul II, Pastores Dabo Vobis, no. 8).
😊 👏👏👏 ❤ 🙏 🤲 *GRACIAS OBISPO ROBERT* Yo estoy recibiendo la Bendición más Grande que jamás imaginé y mi Oración es: Escribe, *Padre Amado Tu LEY en mi❤ Amén*
"Thus, a good man, though a slave, is free; but a wicked man, though a king, is a slave. For he serves, not one man alone, but, what is worse, as many masters as he has vices." - St. Augustine
How I wish I could have been with you all in Westminster, to hear and meet this man chez vous - his homily was the very opposite of Woke-ism, it represents the liberation of us all! Thank you, Your Grace… Oliver, Beyrouth
Truly, one of the best homilies I've heard, but to go further, he needed to tie it to faith- which also sets us free because we've intensified our belief in the Good of God through Christ.
Thank you for explaining the word in such simple rhetoric for the laity. You make biblical interpretations so easy and yet so profound. I am humbled to always listen to your talks and may God give you the strength to keep on keeping on.
This sermon displays one of Bishop Barron's favourite gambits: the conflation of law and discipline. An inference can clearly be drawn that discipine can only be appreciated by those who observe religious law. However, everyone knows and appreciates that the only path to significant achievement is through sustained and well-regulated practice. There are many people who lead very disciplined lives and who have no involvement in organized religion. Furthermore, there are others who have attained excellence in one area by diligent application but who are quite undiscipiined in all other aspects of life.
Have been going through the Old testament for the first time in my life (even though I am a cradle Catholic!) and was wondering how the New testament laws seemed to be at odds with the Old testament. This sermon made it so clear- its not at odds at all, but a fulfillment and an intensification of the law! Such a revelation. Thank you Bishop Barron!
The sermon's message reminds me of some of the teachings of Buda, "disciplining the desires" to set us free from temptations. Disciplining our desires can lead us to suffer, as a result of not reaching freedom. Jesus makes us free through his command: love each other as I do.
While we know that The Law is sweeter than honey and the honeycomb and that it reflects the very character of God, we also know that the Law was made for man, not man for the Law (paraphrasing here Mk.2:27); we also know that while it came through Moses, grace and truth were brought by Jesus Christ, so he is not only the author of Torah (as you so aptly mentioned) but also the embodiment of Grace and Truth. . .he is both God & Man, and thus embodies not only the Law, but the Gospel as well. We need both. . .not either or. Thankfully, Jesus has dwelt among us and has brought us both, and he kept the Law perfectly for us, as we simply fail over and over again to keep it. The perfect keeping of the Law is given to us in Jesus, as we abide in Him and He in us. Thanks be to God!
Bishop, this has to be from when you were in London in February (around the 11th). My son is the Air Force and he was serving at RAF Mildenhall and had a ticket to go see you talk on the 11th I believe. He couldn’t make it because that was his last weekend on base before returning home for a month before going to his next post in Europe. A shame, I really wanted him to go see you!!!
Thank you. Bishop Barron. Beautifully explained. But so sad to see people standing and receiving Our Lord in their hands This is a contradiciton. Would any of us remain standing upright before Jesus if we truly know HE is right there before us? The Priest purifies his sanctified hands. We are not ordained and we do not even purify our hands. There should always be a stated option and provision of a kneeler for those who require it and all who are able shoutd take that option. I will always kneel and receive from ordained hands on the tongue - supported on not. I have never and must never be refused. Receiving on the hand is in law an indult. It is not the norm lawfully. At the name of Jesus every knee shall bend
Romans 8:1-4 KJVS There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. [2] For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death. [3] For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh: [4] That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. Galatians 5:16,22-24 KJVS This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. [22] But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, [23] Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. [24] And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts. You have to have the Spirit.
We think of the law of Moses as religious law but in reality it was legal or social law for the Jewish community. Under Pharaoh or as Tom Holland points out in the Roman world the law was punishment as the deterrent. Or think of Andy in Shawshank Redemption, when he enters prison Red takes him aside and whispers the rules to him. What's often overlooked is the civilization itself and what was taking as new roots under Christianity.
Bishop Robert Barron, The Holy Spirit dwells in you. May The Holy Trinity continue to enlighten you so you lead us To Our Lord Jesus Christ!
What a beautiful cathedral... the 38th largest Catholic church in the world!
I was there earlier this evening for Mass and the Stations of the Cross. Lovely cathedral.
And not yet finished. The black ceiling is caused by the burning candles over hundreds of years but the roof has never been completed properly.
Thank God for the truth that is revealed through you by the Holy Spirit Bishop Barron may the Lord Jesus continue to strengthen and encourage you by His grace
God bless you Eileen🌺!
I wish you a truly blessed weekend! From California with Love, Lara 🌺🙏🌺
@@zionlion4445 thank you Lara 😊 🙏
“To yield unto the passions is the lowest slavery, to rule over them the greatest liberty.”
Biblical freedom is the disciplining of desire, so as to make the achievement of the good first possible and then effortless.
-Bishop Barron
Wonderful Homily. The analogy of laws of language setting you free is a fantastic rebuttal to the post-modernistas!
Perfect! Now THAT’s a lecture on the Law and Freedom!!! The learning to play golf was the ‘ light bulb on’ moment…on the purpose of the Law! No one will forget the purpose of the Law and the enhancements of the Law! ♥️✝️.
I am not religious and yet I have a great respect for Bishop Bannon! It's a pity we don't have others like him! Mind you that doesn't mean I agree 100 % with him - but I always like hearing him and would love to meet him and have many discussions with him !
Thanks to Bishop Barron, I love to preach about the beauty of the law and the Old Testament. Thank you! May God bless your ministry!
St. Ireneus of Lyon, pray for him!
Excellent homily, Bishop!
The law is there to help us live more freely.
Receiving the law into our hearts through the Holy Eucharist and becoming free. Glory to God for his grace and mercy!
The freedom of learning is the freedom to navigate the golf course or freedom to navigate a social group by knowing their language.
It was such a joy to have Bishop Barron presiding Mass that day! 🙏🏻
The law internalize...gives value...it beautifies... English, the beauty of the 8 parts of speech...in golf, the signature swing of Seve Ballesteros...in marriage, the wedding of the old and new testament, the second Luminous mystery. God in words and action... God bless you Bishop Barron and Word on Fire cast and crew...
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The Law is not an enemy of freedom but the condition for the possibility of freedom. It's the law in fact that makes us free.
-Bishop Barron
I really am inspired in my faith by Bishop Baron. Thank you bishop; we really appreciate your efforts.
Amén. Lord only you have life everlasting words. ❤
"...INTENSIFIED AND INTERIORISED"...bingo!!...this IS The Crux!!...What Our Lord JESUS is proclaiming in its full essence really is: Jn.14: 23 “If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word. My Father will love him, and We will come to him and make Our home with him."...indeed, yes, JESUS Wants that not just outwardly, but our Hearts are cleansed...as to make them Holy: only then can GOD Make A Dwelling Within us...Which really IS WHAT GOD WANTS...indeed, dear Bishop Barron, Your proclamation(s) from The Pulpit IS The Voice of The Holy Spirit🙇♂️...we all need to take heed...GOD Bless!!!
For Christ is the end of the law , that everyone who has faith may be justified ( Romans 10 ;4 )
This is excellent! I sometimes use a similar analogy when discussing high end systematic theology and scripture and why they sometimes don't seem to match on the surface: theology is like physics while reading scripture is like baseball.
GOD BLESS YOU BISHOP BARRON.. I FOLLOW YOU EVERYDAY AS A NEW CATHOLIC I THINK AND KNOW IN MY HUMBLE OOINION YOU TO BE THE BEST THERE IS NEXT TO POPE JOHN PAUL II AND POPE BENEDECIT 😇😇😇😇😇😇😇
As European must say one of the best preaches and explanations I ever heard on how to live and enforce the law of the Word of God
You have described the concept development. The law of development sets you free. You have developed your English and golf skills. Development can become easier when natural laws are followed. The prophets have provided knowledge of the law.
Thank you, Bishop Barron
Amen
So happy to have been there. One of the best homilies I’ve heard
Judith Moore
It is always a joy and pleasure to listen to Robert he expresses all with such clarity, sense, and power. Thank you for visiting our shores.
Such a moving homily. Thank you, Bishop 🙏
Amen Anson!🌺🙏🌺
Beautiful homily for our reflection ❤ thank you.
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Thank you, Bishop Barron, again I learned something new.
Thank you Bishop. I find the analogy of God's law and freedom with the use of grammar in languages very true, I heard it first from your Catholicism documentary. Freedom cannot exist by itself, ruled by itself. Freedom contains us so that we can do all things good and at the end, to see God face to face.
Indonesia menyimak Bapa homilinya trimakasih syalom
Hello Father, I'm Vietnamese and often watch your activities.
Funny and wonderful thought, whenever I see BB speak , I can’t help but think of his parents. I bet they never for a moment thought that their son would make such an amazing mark on all of us. Thank you .
Bet they were old fashioned Catholics (strict & parented in Catholic manner). 😉😇
Woah. You think you’ve heard all of Barron…nope…let this one settle into the heart. ❤
Truth, Truth, Truth ❤️🙏🏻 God bless you Bishop Barron ❤️💙💜
🌺Thank you for this beautiful "sermonette", Your Excellency, Bishop Barron!
🌺 May we all love to take His law, The Holy Eucharist, into our hearts!
🌺I wish you, your family, and everyone in this channel a truly blessed weekend, and the best Lent ever!
🌺Jeremiah 31:31
"Behold, the days are coming, says the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and the house of Judah..."
🌺King David, please pray for us!
🌺Saint Paul, please pray for us!
🌺Saint Thomas Aquinas, please pray for us!
⚜️Only You, Lord⚜️
(Nisi Te Domine)
Beautiful. Thank you!
I really wish everyone would listen to this in Jesus name
May other religions pagans and atheist find freedom through Jesus body
The Eucharis
I am the slave of Christ Jesus.
It is felt freedom ❤
Thank you God
Thanks a lot Bishop Barron
wow that golf parable, thank you bishop barron
Taking to Law into myself: just beautiful. Thank you Jesus you set us free. 🙏 ❤
One of my favorite sermons by Bishop Barron. Never tire of it. Such a touchstone for me.
In this world where so many people want to create their own law because they want to be 'free', it is wonderful to hear how the LAW really sets us free.
This homily moved me to tears. Oh, how we forget . . .
In order to really understand what is freedom we must experience what is the opposite of freedom. Ex. In order understand light we must experience what is darkness.
And the opposite of freedom is that we are all imprisoned.
And what is the purpose of the law? It is to submit us, train us, to regulate us, austere us and lead us to purify our dirts in our consciousness. And everything will become clearer and clearer. And in that process can only lead us to real knowledge then lead us to real surrender - sweet surrender to the Supreme Personality of Godhead.
God bless you His Grace ❤️🙏
Thank you so much your Excellencey Bishop Barron for the explanation of the Words of God. Watching and listening from Cyprus.
Your Grace, this is the best explanation on these words of Jesus I have ever heard. Thank you. I pray I'll remember this homily whenever I get into a conversation about religion with anyone!
beautiful.
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So beautiful. So profound!
Courage Bh. Continue this and know that Jesus is happy in your shepherding for many are deepening the Catholic tenets
Thank you so much for the homily. I love the relationship between the Law and the Eucharist and the quote from Jeremiah 31:31. Thank you so much Bishop Baron
These verses are timeless and cannot be repeated too many times. Beautiful liturgical explanations by His Excellence Bishop Robert Barron, Bishop of Rochester and Winona MN., his homilies are eloquently broken down and dissolved, so easily absorbed and infused into the minds of listeners as always. May God continually bless his Excellence.
Thank you very much, Bishop Barron. This lesson means so much to me. May God bless you. I thank God for you. 🙏
How beautiful. What a awesome God 🙏🏻✌🏻🕊💞✝️
Great sermon Bishop Barron, may GOD bless and protect you always. ➕ ❤
So clear, really truthful. I have always been feeling suffocated by laws and freedom was to me to do what I will. But to hear you say that freedom is the ability to do a certain good effortlessly and that laws serve to inculcate in me the virtues that enable me to be free has been really noval and at the same liberating. Thanks bishop Barron, may God bless you abundantly and greetings from Uganda, Africa.
Freedom has two prongs.
To be responsible
Or to be not responsible.
Choose wisely.
@@JCRARSZQ That type of freedom is freedom of choice but that is not all that there is to freedom. Actually freedom of choice when used responsibly becomes a means of acquiring good habits that help inculcate virtues in someone which in the end enable him or her to attain the freedom (easiness) to do the good effortlessly and adhere to objective truth. The freedom that is being described here is what John Paul II describes as "obedience to objective and universal truth" (John Paul II, Pastores Dabo Vobis, no. 8).
Thank you, Bishop. I just attended a wonderful vespers service at St Peter's Basilica in Cincinnati.
Oh yes what a privilege. I would love to go to mass in a Church so beautiful.❤
😊 👏👏👏 ❤ 🙏 🤲
*GRACIAS OBISPO ROBERT*
Yo estoy recibiendo la Bendición
más Grande que jamás imaginé
y mi Oración es: Escribe,
*Padre Amado Tu LEY en mi❤ Amén*
AMEN,
Praised Be Christ. ✝️🕊️
Thank you Bishop Robert Barron, for the very awesome homily. 🙏🏻
"Thus, a good man, though a slave, is free; but a wicked man, though a king, is a slave. For he serves, not one man alone, but, what is worse, as many masters as he has vices." - St. Augustine
Beautiful sermon Bishop Barron. Laws that sets us free! Beautiful learning. Love for Eucharist is even more now. Thank u and God bless 🙏🏻
Always learn a gem from your sermon
Beautiful!💗
Bless you Bishop Barron 🙏🏽❤️
AMEN.
God bless bishop barron.
How I wish I could have been with you all in Westminster, to hear and meet this man chez vous - his homily was the very opposite of Woke-ism, it represents the liberation of us all! Thank you, Your Grace… Oliver, Beyrouth
Gracias querido Padre Robert!
Really neat to see Bishop within the context of actual Mass. Hope to participate in a Mass with him someday.
In the name of the father and the son and the holy spirit amen
Thank you….such clear and concise explanation.
Truly, one of the best homilies I've heard, but to go further, he needed to tie it to faith- which also sets us free because we've intensified our belief in the Good of God through Christ.
zip it up when your done
Thank you for explaining the word in such simple rhetoric for the laity. You make biblical interpretations so easy and yet so profound. I am humbled to always listen to your talks and may God give you the strength to keep on keeping on.
This sermon displays one of Bishop Barron's favourite gambits: the conflation of law and discipline. An inference can clearly be drawn that discipine can only be appreciated by those who observe religious law. However, everyone knows and appreciates that the only path to significant achievement is through sustained and well-regulated practice. There are many people who lead very disciplined lives and who have no involvement in organized religion. Furthermore, there are others who have attained excellence in one area by diligent application but who are quite undiscipiined in all other aspects of life.
Amen. 🙏
Have been going through the Old testament for the first time in my life (even though I am a cradle Catholic!) and was wondering how the New testament laws seemed to be at odds with the Old testament. This sermon made it so clear- its not at odds at all, but a fulfillment and an intensification of the law! Such a revelation. Thank you Bishop Barron!
Deus Vult. Hails from Brazil.
Always a pleasure to be listening to Bishop Baron.
God bless
The sermon's message reminds me of some of the teachings of Buda, "disciplining the desires" to set us free from temptations. Disciplining our desires can lead us to suffer, as a result of not reaching freedom. Jesus makes us free through his command: love each other as I do.
Bishop Barren the other priests are not like you nor do we get the intellectual stimulation. I have been checking around.
Bishop Barron been barreling bangers
Always refreshing and something new to learn!
So beautiful message!
May God bless you Bishop!
While we know that The Law is sweeter than honey and the honeycomb and that it reflects the very character of God, we also know that the Law was made for man, not man for the Law (paraphrasing here Mk.2:27); we also know that while it came through Moses, grace and truth were brought by Jesus Christ, so he is not only the author of Torah (as you so aptly mentioned) but also the embodiment of Grace and Truth. . .he is both God & Man, and thus embodies not only the Law, but the Gospel as well. We need both. . .not either or. Thankfully, Jesus has dwelt among us and has brought us both, and he kept the Law perfectly for us, as we simply fail over and over again to keep it. The perfect keeping of the Law is given to us in Jesus, as we abide in Him and He in us. Thanks be to God!
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This was really good.
Amen🙏🙏🙏
You all are free yes taste all food that You eat
Jeremiah 31:31
amen
❤️🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
Bishop, this has to be from when you were in London in February (around the 11th). My son is the Air Force and he was serving at RAF Mildenhall and had a ticket to go see you talk on the 11th I believe. He couldn’t make it because that was his last weekend on base before returning home for a month before going to his next post in Europe. A shame, I really wanted him to go see you!!!
Thank you. Bishop Barron. Beautifully explained. But so sad to see people standing and receiving Our Lord in their hands This is a contradiciton. Would any of us remain standing upright before Jesus if we truly know HE is right there before us? The Priest purifies his sanctified hands. We are not ordained and we do not even purify our hands. There should always be a stated option and provision of a kneeler for those who require it and all who are able shoutd take that option. I will always kneel and receive from ordained hands on the tongue - supported on not. I have never and must never be refused. Receiving on the hand is in law an indult. It is not the norm lawfully. At the name of Jesus every knee shall bend
Thumbnail too hard 🔥
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Sounds like your still into your cold here, Your Excellency. Hope your feeling better!
Come home. Come to Rome!
Romans 8:1-4 KJVS
There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. [2] For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death. [3] For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh: [4] That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
Galatians 5:16,22-24 KJVS
This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. [22] But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, [23] Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. [24] And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.
You have to have the Spirit.
That lady in the back looks miserable. I hope she is ok ❤
Arms crossed, miserable face, asleep during the homily.
Pray for her then 😊 🙏
She just looks like she is cold and listening to me.
@@claireanctil ah yeah. Women are always cold lol I forgot
We think of the law of Moses as religious law but in reality it was legal or social law for the Jewish community. Under Pharaoh or as Tom Holland points out in the Roman world the law was punishment as the deterrent. Or think of Andy in Shawshank Redemption, when he enters prison Red takes him aside and whispers the rules to him. What's often overlooked is the civilization itself and what was taking as new roots under Christianity.
SO i Say Cross next Clouds or Kingdom and Clouds next Cross is the only way to get Heaven little to little at real eternal life
This lady behind Bishop Barron looks miserable - and even asleep during his homily - arms crossed.