Another key factor was that the Iowa class was constantly at sea. It had a battle hardened crew that was deeply experienced. Tirpitz had one combat event where it did a short shore bombardment. Other than that it spent the being bombed by the Brits....
there's one problem with Iowa's model, the model has four twin 5in guns per side...Iowa had five, two extra five inch guns wouldn't make much difference but it's still an inaccuracy nonetheless.
as a matter of fact, the first mission of the USS Iowa was to counter the threat of the KMS Tirpitz in the North sea, but the two ships never met, plus the USS Iowa would have brought along support in the form of escort cruisers and destroyers. if the two ships did meet, it'll be very one-sided as the Tirpitz was built as a commerce raider with the technology of the last decade, whereas the Iowa class was the state of the art. an outdated ship for a very different role that never had a chance and the crew of the Tirpitz would know this as well and know that they were not going home.
Tirpitz and Bismarck we're designed for combat in the north sea. Greatly restricted ranges and nobody ever remembers it takes precisely one hit or near Miss to knock out radar. Think it would have been tougher for the Iowa class than people assume. No I'm not saying they wouldn't have won just not that easily.
Redundancy. Two mark 8 radars were accurate out past 22 miles. The air search SK radars could also determine ranges. Also super heavy AP shells @2700 lbs (standard AP shell @2240 lbs) would have made short work of what was basically ww1 armour design of Bismarck class. And german AP shells had a very high percentage of duds. The hit on Prince of Wales bridge was a dud.
Tirpitz's limited reputation rests on Bismarck's lucky hit from 18,000 yards against an overmatched opponent. It would have been Tirpitz's turn to play the "Hood" role, however, in any scenario involving Iowa. "Sunk" at Pearl Harbor, the West Virginia was modernized in 1944 with the same radar & fire control suites found onboard Iowa. In night action at Surigao, the old "WeeVee" began tracking the Japanese on radar at 43,000 yards and achieved firing solution on Yamashiro at 30,000 yards. At just under 23,000 yards, the first salvo of 2,240 lb. AP from her eight old 16"/45 cal guns struck home, as did shells from four of her next five salvos. Bear in mind, also, that the pre-war North Carolina and South Dakota "treaty" classes carried nine newer 16"/45s which hurled the same 2,700 lb Mark 8 "super-heavy" AP shell used by Iowa's more-powerful 16"/50 cal Mark 7 main battery. In 1942, North Carolina went on convoy duty in the North Atlantic in hope that the British could tempt Tirpitz to come under her guns, but the German refused the bait. Obviously they already knew how it would go down. In a one-on-one with Iowa, I give Tirpitz 5 minutes, tops!
I’m pretty sure when the Iowa was first commissioned, US Naval intelligence said the Tirpitz was steaming in the North Atlantic and and the Iowa was sent to counter it but they were wrong. Would’ve been one of the greatest naval battles in World War Two.
Weird, practically the Tirpitz was way behind in Fire Control, Radar, less effective range...weaker steel, and not particularly more of it...I believe Iowa’s 9 16” guns would at least 5 salvos to Tirpitz’s 3.5, maybe 4 salvos at best, and that alone would be a death blow... the 3 to 5 extra knots would have fairly quickly allowed Iowa to cross Tirpitz’s T... and that should be it!
Alright, another bogus surface combat game. Get the NWS mod of Fighting Steel or Alan Zimm's Action Stations. USS Iowa was completed in mid-1943 with SG surface search and Mk.13 fire control radar, married to the Mk.38 fire control director, the MkVIII rangekeeper, the Mk.52 stable vertical and remote power control. She would have spotted Tirpitz at 40,000 yards with her SG, gotten accurate range and bearing from the Mk.13 and a firing solution before they got to 35,000 yards, at which Iowa would have been dropping 2,700lbs AP shells through Tirpitz's thinner deck armor without Tirpitz being able to effectively reply. Iowa would be getting a 5-10% hit rate for the 18 rpm the Iowa could generate. Iowa's protection was designed to stop the 2,240lbs 16" AP round from the US Mk.V gun, at an optimum immune zone of 20,000 to 28,000 yards. Tirpitz''s 1,800lbs AP shells would have lesser penetration at all ranges had she even been able to see Iowa, since Tirpitz's FuMo 23 might range on Iowa but couldn't provide accurate bearing data for fire control. Tirpitz would have to close to at least 20,000 yards to use star shell, which the Iowa's superior speed would prevent. There would be no real danger to Iowa unless her captain made a mistake.
Is not Bismarck man. If use Bismarck it will not show in the map because date and time was not match with this map Because this map set year in 1944 but Bismarck use in 1938-1941 But Tirpitz use in 1939-1944 i can only use Tirpitz to fight Against Iowa in this year
@@nikidesignsolutionsandgami1518 Subtle differences - most notable, Bismarck had the aircraft cranes outboard and on the main deck. Tirpitz had the cranes one deck higher and closer to the funnel, which in turn allowed some of the heavy A.A. guns to be positioned more efficiently.
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Another key factor was that the Iowa class was constantly at sea. It had a battle hardened crew that was deeply experienced. Tirpitz had one combat event where it did a short shore bombardment. Other than that it spent the being bombed by the Brits....
Iowa was faster, had greater maneuverability, main guns that could fire further and better radar.
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there's one problem with Iowa's model, the model has four twin 5in guns per side...Iowa had five, two extra five inch guns wouldn't make much difference but it's still an inaccuracy nonetheless.
as a matter of fact, the first mission of the USS Iowa was to counter the threat of the KMS Tirpitz in the North sea, but the two ships never met, plus the USS Iowa would have brought along support in the form of escort cruisers and destroyers.
if the two ships did meet, it'll be very one-sided as the Tirpitz was built as a commerce raider with the technology of the last decade, whereas the Iowa class was the state of the art.
an outdated ship for a very different role that never had a chance and the crew of the Tirpitz would know this as well and know that they were not going home.
Tirpitz and Bismarck we're designed for combat in the north sea. Greatly restricted ranges and nobody ever remembers it takes precisely one hit or near Miss to knock out radar. Think it would have been tougher for the Iowa class than people assume. No I'm not saying they wouldn't have won just not that easily.
Redundancy. Two mark 8 radars were accurate out past 22 miles. The air search SK radars could also determine ranges. Also super heavy AP shells @2700 lbs (standard AP shell @2240 lbs) would have made short work of what was basically ww1 armour design of Bismarck class. And german AP shells had a very high percentage of duds. The hit on Prince of Wales bridge was a dud.
Tirpitz's limited reputation rests on Bismarck's lucky hit from 18,000 yards against an overmatched opponent. It would have been Tirpitz's turn to play the "Hood" role, however, in any scenario involving Iowa. "Sunk" at Pearl Harbor, the West Virginia was modernized in 1944 with the same radar & fire control suites found onboard Iowa. In night action at Surigao, the old "WeeVee" began tracking the Japanese on radar at 43,000 yards and achieved firing solution on Yamashiro at 30,000 yards. At just under 23,000 yards, the first salvo of 2,240 lb. AP from her eight old 16"/45 cal guns struck home, as did shells from four of her next five salvos. Bear in mind, also, that the pre-war North Carolina and South Dakota "treaty" classes carried nine newer 16"/45s which hurled the same 2,700 lb Mark 8 "super-heavy" AP shell used by Iowa's more-powerful 16"/50 cal Mark 7 main battery. In 1942, North Carolina went on convoy duty in the North Atlantic in hope that the British could tempt Tirpitz to come under her guns, but the German refused the bait. Obviously they already knew how it would go down. In a one-on-one with Iowa, I give Tirpitz 5 minutes, tops!
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It seems neither ships suffer major damage but Tirpirtz sunk?
Iowa have Bigger guns make it more easy to penetrate Tirpitz Armor and Tirpitz can fire faster than Iowa but poor penetration for her guns
Spec Crazy tirpitz have torpedos
Spec Crazy so what I saw there was Bismarck Vs Iowa
Spec Crazy cause I saw no torpedo on her deck
Nope this game is very old. The Ships Model not have a lot of Details like this time
What is the issue why tirpitz sunk
I’m pretty sure when the Iowa was first commissioned, US Naval intelligence said the Tirpitz was steaming in the North Atlantic and and the Iowa was sent to counter it but they were wrong. Would’ve been one of the greatest naval battles in World War Two.
only ONE questinon (2 parts) WTF and why?
Seemed like a fight between secondary batteries not the main guns~absurd
Weird, practically the Tirpitz was way behind in Fire Control, Radar, less effective range...weaker steel, and not particularly
more of it...I believe Iowa’s 9 16” guns would at least 5 salvos to Tirpitz’s 3.5, maybe 4 salvos at best, and that alone would be a death blow... the 3 to 5 extra knots would have fairly quickly allowed Iowa to cross Tirpitz’s T... and that should be it!
Alright, another bogus surface combat game. Get the NWS mod of Fighting Steel or Alan Zimm's Action Stations. USS Iowa was completed in mid-1943 with SG surface search and Mk.13 fire control radar, married to the Mk.38 fire control director, the MkVIII rangekeeper, the Mk.52 stable vertical and remote power control. She would have spotted Tirpitz at 40,000 yards with her SG, gotten accurate range and bearing from the Mk.13 and a firing solution before they got to 35,000 yards, at which Iowa would have been dropping 2,700lbs AP shells through Tirpitz's thinner deck armor without Tirpitz being able to effectively reply. Iowa would be getting a 5-10% hit rate for the 18 rpm the Iowa could generate. Iowa's protection was designed to stop the 2,240lbs 16" AP round from the US Mk.V gun, at an optimum immune zone of 20,000 to 28,000 yards. Tirpitz''s 1,800lbs AP shells would have lesser penetration at all ranges had she even been able to see Iowa, since Tirpitz's FuMo 23 might range on Iowa but couldn't provide accurate bearing data for fire control. Tirpitz would have to close to at least 20,000 yards to use star shell, which the Iowa's superior speed would prevent. There would be no real danger to Iowa unless her captain made a mistake.
Uss Iowa Vs. H39??!!
Nope. She's Tirpitz Man
Spec Crazy Lol no, can you do a video of Iowa vs h39?
Landen Greene hey that's not tirpitz that's Bismarck tirpitz have torpedos and I saw no torpedo on her deck
I can't find that mod. I will do if i found it
Next time use the real tirpitz I know u used the Bismarck
Is not Bismarck man. If use Bismarck it will not show in the map because date and time was not match with this map Because this map set year in 1944 but Bismarck use in 1938-1941 But Tirpitz use in 1939-1944 i can only use Tirpitz to fight Against Iowa in this year
And i not do video like this any more
Spec Crazy it looks more of a Bismarck to me aslo did u know the tirpitz can even bounce most of the bombs ever made in ww2
Bismarck must have Nazi Symbol on Deck man. This game not have a lot Details Because it's a game in year 2005
the camouflage is from tirpitz not from bismarck, everyone who knows the bismarck class, must know that
That's not even the Tirpitz
yes and no given the Tirpitz is a Bismarck class battleship
@@nikidesignsolutionsandgami1518 Subtle differences - most notable, Bismarck had the aircraft cranes outboard and on the main deck.
Tirpitz had the cranes one deck higher and closer to the funnel, which in turn allowed some of the heavy A.A. guns to be positioned more efficiently.