I checked out the store, and for anybody curious Goodell sells the slugs at $21.25 for 25 slugs for most of them, and he has a ton of varieties to choose from. Thanks for giving both companies a shoutout, it's good to know of them!
I've been clamoring for someone to sell just the slugs - even suggesting they sell them on Ebay. Ryan even had some molds custom made for him. It seems like every day I check, he's added something new to the site. He still has a lot of work to do.
@@taofledermaus I can imagine that a small business where you are the manufacturer, shipper, etc. the website may end up taking a back seat to production and shipping.
@@taofledermaus Collaboration with a chemistry/physics UA-camr would be a leap for the Channel. I have many questions and suggestions on other UA-cam channels to connect with
@@taofledermaus I replied on a post my son is station in Miramar and my brother runs the Elks Lodge in San Diego was going to see if you would let them come shoot one day have some guest shooters? I received spam posing to be you I reported.
Gatekeeper vs armed intruder is a non-contest. A center mass shot is going to do a Ninja blender to heart, lungs, liver, major arteries and spinal column. As a former Trauma Tech, I feel comfortable saying that even a "badly placed" shot will likely be instantly fatal, or at the very least, totally incapacitating.
A blast to the thigh is removing your leg, while the femoral paints the walls, briefly. Into the shoulder, depends, but I wouldn't be hopeful. This is probably the closet you can get from firing an HE round.
Saw a trauma vic. that had a deer slug to the left pelvis ....... With this round I believe the leg would be torn off , or at least hanging by a bit of meat., Either way D.O.A
I would honestly say it depends on the dinosaur. Some of the armored ones you would need a .700 nitro loaded with a brass solid, to get enough energy on target and penetrate. A .50 BMG might honestly be a better choice at that point given a .700 nitro costs like $100 a shell while packing less muzzle energy. A specially designed hollow point .50 BMG round could easily be more devastating for a fraction of the price, probably being priced comparably to a pair of these gatekeeper slugs. For home defense shooting a man sized target though, I'd pick that gatekeeper slug all day
You have to shoot the tree next to small dinosaurs if you want there to be any meat on the kill. Same thing they used to have to do with muskets when hunting small game.
I remember watching the “gatekeeper” video back when you released it. My mouth was agape through the whole video from seeing the total destruction of that round. Thanks Jeff!
I think we were lumped in with Oath and G2 when I built those. I designed the slug on the day Biden said no one needed an AR 15 and that a shotgun was all you needed.
The Gatekeeper will forever be the coolest slug ever in my opinion, but the Twister shredding that pork in 3 different directions was incredible to see!
I just got my first 12 guage. Needless to say, this channel has been an awesome source of both info and etertainment. Your videos prove the 12 guage is such a versatile beast and you guys are very fun to watch.
I'd love to see you compare those slugs with your old wax slugs. Maybe you could use multiple sizes of shot in your wax slugs to get it packed in extra tight.
Excellent and entertaining video and didn't have to go out in the Central Valley heat. I am all for you doing another video where you compare, contrast and review similar slug types and their relative effectiveness. Perhaps you could do a "worst of the worst".
Very interesting how the white gas seal sparked on impact. My best guess, If the impact force is high enough and enough heat/high pressure is created just about anything can combust. In this case it was a detonation with air and the gasses of the plastic seal (or the sill putty) created on impact. Thanks for another great video 👍
Very few rounds are stopped by 2 sheets of dry wall. Always be sure of what is behind the target. That being said, most slug rounds will completely penetrate solid body shots.
@@ScottKenny1978 I am pretty sure that there is no round that will stop a bad guy, but won't go through a sheetrock (aka drywall or gypsum board) interior wall.
@@mckenziekeith7434 right. But it might only go through 4 layers of sheetrock (Hornady Critical Defense 5.56, iirc), which means it will go through 2 inner walls and stop. I'd really like to see what the Gatekeeper slug does versus drywall. I expect it will blow through a lot of sheets, even if it does fully expand just from the drywall.
The Gatekeeper is, without doubt, the most impressive slug for home defense that I have ever seen. Directly after seeing your first video about them, I ordered them. I now have several boxes of them, and after testing them myself, I can state that what you guys show, is exactly what I have seen personally. The Gatekeeper is all I'll ever load in my bedside buddy, she's "The thing that goes BOOM! in the night!". No overpenetration. Insane level of stopping power. Seriously good home defense, and they are worth every penny - I just wish they were MORE available for everyone.
Very effective rounds. Lots of energy being unleashed in different media, so great home defense rounds. I cast my own, so they don’t cost so much. Take care and stay safe! God bless! 🙏🎚🇲🇾🇲🇾🇲🇾
I have purchased 50 shells of the Gatekeeper after your first video. They are in my FN SLP, my SLP holds 8plus1. Now extinct. I told everyone the SLP would go extinct and it did.
Thanks for the Goodell info. Just ordered two different types. Shipping was fair as well! American Reloading his 12 gauge hulls and free shipping but seems you'll have to order larger quantities but they also have lots of reloading items and ammo as well for pretty good prices
I found the "gatekeeper" slugs for sale! Not loaded ammo, the slugs themselves, for $2.43/ea. They're produced by a company called "Maker Bullets" under the name "Rex". Although according to their website they are 435gr and not 460gr, I'm assuming the 435gr is without the gas seal/tail piece.
Maker bullets has been waiting months for back ordered copper stock to come in for making these , some of it is just now starting to come in so they should have some ready very soon .
When I checked their website (at least the one that googlebox led me to) the browser said it was broken. (Edit: I just remembered that it wasn't Maker's website that was broken, it was ARM's) Do you have a link to the website that worked for you? I would actually be trying to buy just the slugs because of import/export issues that may arise through an individual attempting to ship ammunition internationally. Just importing the copper projectile and loading on my end may be more feasible. On a side note, it may help that this one has a more neutral name "Rex" instead of "Gatekeeper", as something intended for "self defence" may have import issues. On the other hand I'm looking at these as an anti-bear round, or for other dangerous game, and having a neutral name or one that reflects being used for hunting or livestock protection would help at the border. Edit: I tried looking up the name and it led to their T-Rex line. Additional Edit: I found it. I'll drop their SKU for the product to make finding it easier 12ga-435gr-REX-SLUG all one word.
I always love your content very clear explanation of what you are doing and what goes right and what goes wrong without apologizing for not so perfect results! This one was a treat to see great job!!
I was always impressed by the Double Donut, specifically the little gummy worm that got cookie-cutter'd out of the gummy bear. That would have left a permanent cavity that would have drained out in seconds.
For the heat, a few canopies for shade, some misters, and a couple drums of water with a 12v dc pump. Y'all dont get humid like the south, so the mist actually provides good cooling. Use the finest atomizing sprayers, and you wont even feel the moisture in mid 20s% RH
The best slug is the one you have chambered. The second best is everything else. The worst is the one you just yanked wide right of your adversarial target - trust you've got their undivided attention.
I remember both videos and they were definitely the most impressive slugs I've ever seen except for maybe the big 2 oz train wreck slug that Breanna handled better than anyone else. Since seeing the videos, I've been trying to find them (as money allows) to test for myself, but didn't know the company names. Thank you for giving them a shout out so that we can more easily find them when they're available.
Good as I'm interested in seeing that odd spherical one in action. I got lucky and scored two boxes of the Gatekeeper shells as I've got a mag fed shotgun that holds 9+1. Yes, they're more expensive, but if I need more than those ten over the course of my lifetime, or in light of how lethal they are, even if I need all ten, well I figure the situation is above my paygrade anyway. For the Russian slug, my next firearm purchase is going to be one of those black powder Diablo shotgun pistols so I'll actually be investing in getting one of those molds so I can cast as many as I like - figure I might as well target shoot with what I'll be hunting with.
I know you usually only do shotgun ammo demos. However, by going through ARMs store I found that they make 9mm GATEKEEPER rounds. And I’m genuinely intrigued. Would it be too much to ask for a demo of other such ammo? Also, huge fan of this awesome channel and watching all the carnage just because.
Awesome videos, I think it's awesome that you give shout outs and give a basic walk thru on your loading process and logic. Couple questions for you if you have the time. 1. What is the best shape for penetration? 2. What is your preferred material (lead copper brass composite cast)?
Great video guys. Your Slomo videos are some of the best on UA-cam. A lot of the other channels are just now using high speed cameras so you are way ahead of the game. Keep up the good work.
HAVE MEEEERCY!!! THE WOUND TRACK ON BOTH WERE IMPRESSIVE... BUT THE 5 BUCK A ROUND SLUG?? HOLY JEEBUS!!😱😱 THAT WOULD PUT AN INTRUDER INTO AT LEAST TWO DIFFERENT AREA CODES..🤣🤣🤣🤣 Nice find Jeff..
Very Very cool Comparison. A super fun video! It's super hot in IL as well... burning hot. Looking forward to see these new slugs - they sure do look awesome.
Please bring back the extreme penetrator shotgun slug. Those were awesome too! Is love to see a comparison between the Gatekeeper and the Extreme Penetrator slugs
I've shot the Makers before. Still have a few boxes. Paul the owner of Maker is a cool guy. From what I was told Paul sells these to Texas law enforcement agencies. They were called T-Rex when we tested them with him. Very good for home defence.
Watching that ballistic gel dance is always a good time. I have a buddy that pours a lot of lead for fishing and I'm gonna show him that copper/brass ceramic coating. We might be able to trade off some work in exchange. Thanks for showing everything. Good luck on the heat. I hope you guys are doing well. Stay cool. 🤙🏾
@@taofledermaus I taught him how to make silicone molds a few years back. I'll have to get my hands on a slug mold or two and I bet we can come up with something. I honestly appreciate the inspiration. It's been awhile since I felt compelled to do something new. Thanks, brother. 🤙🏾
Awesome! All I can say is WOW! Just think being shot with one of those. It would shoot a leg or arm off. Or blow a body part out. On the guy that makes just the slug, there was one shaped like a ball. Have you guys shot it? Thanks for the video
I think the most effective slug (or bullet for that matter) would be one that acts like the gatekeeper slug and expands in the first few inches of flesh (let's say half) and then fragments like the twister in the last few. That would give you a massive entrance hold like a conventional hollow point but also increase your likelihood of hitting vital organs like a fragmenting slug
Next time Greg is in Oklahoma maybe he can show me how to reload shotgun reloading. I inherited a 12 gauge and 20 gauge reloader. I've always reloaded rifle rounds, 270 and 243.
Both of these slugs are just devastating, but I'm pretty sure the old standard foster slugs do a great job for the money and availability. I do live in a spot where over penetration in home defense situation is not a big issue though.
The gatekeeper is a jaw dropping round, it'll remove a leg or arm if hits. If center or off D.O.A. I don't even want to think of the mess a headshot would make🤠
Why have no major ammo manufacturer bought the rights to these? These would go like crazy. Hunting, where you cant use lead. Home defense... The next test I would like to see is accuracy out to 100 yards with a smooth bore and a fully rifled barrel. Great vid. guys.
Fantastic as always .I am trying to find a new recipe for slugs ..I am using imr 4756 I use 39 grains with a 32 gram diablo slug .Down to my last 2 pounds 4756 .Wondering what you have for ideas with HS6 or longshot for magnum slug and buckshot loads
@@taofledermaus I have BPI'S slug and buck shot reloading manual ,but it's out of date.Im sure I saw some HS6 loads or long shot.hope i don't have to change the wads as well .Have to get some slugs ready for Controlled Hunt In Southern Ontario .The diablo slugs fit perfect in the wads I'm using and make flawless 3 inch shells .I get better than 4 inch groups free hand at 80 yards through a 24 inch smooth bore .More than good enough where I go .Most deer are taken within 30 yards because it's shotgun only .No rifles allowed .Thank you again .keep up the great work you guys do .Personal defence 800fps is best .same speed I use for my 12 gauge and 38special hbwc loaded backwards ! fantastic hollow point !
@@carlubambi5541 4" at 80 yards? I really hope you are hunting in thick vegetation up close because this wouldn't be allowed to be taken where I hunt. We would never let someone that shots like that hunt our properties.
@@joshua_J more than accurate enough for an ethical kill .I I shoot my 3 1/2 inch rifles barrel .I can get a 2 inch group at about 120 yards .Never shot past 150 with a shotgun .Some guys claim 20O yards on certain sabot slugs .I can hit an 8 inch plate at 1000 with my savage 111 in 300 win .Can't use that where I go deer hunting .it's shotgun only .I can get a 1 1/2 group with my 243 at 250 .But haven't found the right 100 grain bullet .Going to try the cheap Remington green and white 100 grains next .and see if it gets any better.What works on one gun doesn't work on another .Time to experiment further .So far the 243 does not like Hornady nor Winchester ...But my 300 loves the 180 grain Remington green and white box .I have a redfield 3x9 on the 243 and Burris fullfield now on my 300 win .Had a bigger scope but difficult to use in some places. Need a much more open space to use the big scope but it was fun to use at the range
I have 410, 28,20 and 12 gauge shotguns. I can't find any defensive loads in 28 gauge and very few in 410. I would love to see the lesser bores demo-ed with the more obtainable twister slug for use by my smaller statured friends.
Y’all tested an ultra deep hollow point that took a core sample of the ballistic gel with it that I thought was really impressive too and did well against the lead plate iirc.
Outstanding video and details. Gatekeeper is incredible performance and a true GUT BLASTER!! The clean up after the shot would be insane. The twister is on par IMO. Especially being available and able to create the ideal load for your defense or hunting needs. Watched again and see that the Twister is the one that exploded the pork shoulder thingy. IMO the twister slowed down just a little for HD is optimal due to fragmentation/energy dump/availability and you can load your own velocities.
Good Lord, those things are violent on impact. We have a couple of .69 cal CW-era rifled muskets, would be neat to compare the two. Though I don't know how well I would handle a full service charge in that thing. I've only shot it with the roughly half-ish powder loads we use in competition, since we usually only shoot at 50 and 100 yards. It's incredibly rare that we ever need to reach out to 1000 yards. I have a feeling those slugs would still be quite a bit nastier due to the insane expansion, but it would be neat to see anyway.
I checked out the store, and for anybody curious Goodell sells the slugs at $21.25 for 25 slugs for most of them, and he has a ton of varieties to choose from. Thanks for giving both companies a shoutout, it's good to know of them!
I've been clamoring for someone to sell just the slugs - even suggesting they sell them on Ebay. Ryan even had some molds custom made for him. It seems like every day I check, he's added something new to the site. He still has a lot of work to do.
@@taofledermaus I can imagine that a small business where you are the manufacturer, shipper, etc. the website may end up taking a back seat to production and shipping.
@@taofledermaus Collaboration with a chemistry/physics UA-camr would be a leap for the Channel. I have many questions and suggestions on other UA-cam channels to connect with
I’m sure if Ryan gets into this thread he will probably look into producing a slug similar to the gate keeper
@@taofledermaus I replied on a post my son is station in Miramar and my brother runs the Elks Lodge in San Diego was going to see if you would let them come shoot one day have some guest shooters? I received spam posing to be you I reported.
Gatekeeper vs armed intruder is a non-contest. A center mass shot is going to do a Ninja blender to heart, lungs, liver, major arteries and spinal column. As a former Trauma Tech, I feel comfortable saying that even a "badly placed" shot will likely be instantly fatal, or at the very least, totally incapacitating.
What's the medical term for shit his pants too?.
I think the Latin is
Rapidass Evacuass😂
Fire one into a human crouching menacingly in your living room and guaranteed you'll want to move out instead of cleaning up the mess. Just sayin'.
A blast to the thigh is removing your leg, while the femoral paints the walls, briefly.
Into the shoulder, depends, but I wouldn't be hopeful.
This is probably the closet you can get from firing an HE round.
Saw a trauma vic. that had a deer slug to the left pelvis ....... With this round I believe the leg would be torn off , or at least hanging by a bit of meat., Either way D.O.A
@@MESOHAWNYFAWYOU did you move or clean the mess?
The Gatekeeper is BRUTAL. If there was ever a shotgun round designed to take down small to medium-sized dinosaurs, it'd probably be that one.
I would honestly say it depends on the dinosaur. Some of the armored ones you would need a .700 nitro loaded with a brass solid, to get enough energy on target and penetrate. A .50 BMG might honestly be a better choice at that point given a .700 nitro costs like $100 a shell while packing less muzzle energy. A specially designed hollow point .50 BMG round could easily be more devastating for a fraction of the price, probably being priced comparably to a pair of these gatekeeper slugs. For home defense shooting a man sized target though, I'd pick that gatekeeper slug all day
You have to shoot the tree next to small dinosaurs if you want there to be any meat on the kill. Same thing they used to have to do with muskets when hunting small game.
@@TheOriginalFaxon Maybe a .50 BMG designed to "bloom" like the Gatekeeper slug. THAT'S a scary thought actually!
@@ScottLovenberg important fax. Thank you mystery internet man
Yay, I'd feel confident in that arena ! !
I've always thought the Gatekeeper was the single most impressive slug you've shot. Awesome find OG.
Agreed. It does everything right and I'd be ok with the ridiculous price, if they were in stock.
Wax slugs are still my fav, the original and you can make them easily.
well now i gotta reverse engineer the gatekeper
It’s an absolute phenomenal slug. And they look incredibly cool. I hope the maker of these things made a very good buck off of them
The thing I still like best is that Brianna made a ring out of an expanded Gatekeeper.
I remember watching the “gatekeeper” video back when you released it. My mouth was agape through the whole video from seeing the total destruction of that round. Thanks Jeff!
I was really surprised at those- I would have thought their reputation and performance would have been known long before we got ahold of them.
I think we were lumped in with Oath and G2 when I built those. I designed the slug on the day Biden said no one needed an AR 15 and that a shotgun was all you needed.
The Gatekeeper will forever be the coolest slug ever in my opinion, but the Twister shredding that pork in 3 different directions was incredible to see!
Hope more comparisons are coming, I can already tell this is gonna be good
I just got my first 12 guage. Needless to say, this channel has been an awesome source of both info and etertainment. Your videos prove the 12 guage is such a versatile beast and you guys are very fun to watch.
thank you!
I say that the 12ga is the "chef's knife" of firearms. Can do almost anything, depending on what you load it with.
those were very impressive, and that was one hell of a pork explosion!
Pork rainbow 🌈
Yep pork explosion
Imagine if that slug hit you
That is one wicked slug
"Porksplosion "
The wild life must love em'!
The twister made a PorkNado!
I'm *DEFINITELY* looking forward to seeing what some of those other slugs are, and how they perform.
Another excellent video.
Thanks.
thanks!
2 of my favorite rounds you've tested! The Gatekeeper has to be the most devastating round you've ever tested! Thanks for the years of great videos!
thanks Greg
Last time I was this early I was eaten by a Bird..
I'd love to see you compare those slugs with your old wax slugs.
Maybe you could use multiple sizes of shot in your wax slugs to get it packed in extra tight.
Enjoyed hell I loved watching this Jeff. My favorite slug is good ol wax or cut shell. Great shooting an great narration by you. 10/10 big man.
thanks!
@@taofledermaus Tactidrive was the best
Love to see an updated wax slug test.
Whoa. Neat stuff. Thanks for featuring these 2 rounds guys.
Excellent and entertaining video and didn't have to go out in the Central Valley heat. I am all for you doing another video where you compare, contrast and review similar slug types and their relative effectiveness. Perhaps you could do a "worst of the worst".
Just name them as "dishonorable mention".
My favorite slug hast to be that brass knob. Seeing it blow clean through the lead plate literally made my jaw drop.
That was funny right now - I just checked YT if I´ve missed a video from ou guys and after refreshing I saw the new upload. Thank you.
Just scrolling online for a 9mm repeating rifle when I get a notification for this.
Don't buy the Chiappa M1-9
As you probably know, I love that Gatekeeper slug. But the Twister? WOW!!! Totally devastated that pork shoulder.
Best on UA-cam. Keep it up gang
Very interesting how the white gas seal sparked on impact.
My best guess, If the impact force is high enough and enough heat/high pressure is created just about anything can combust. In this case it was a detonation with air and the gasses of the plastic seal (or the sill putty) created on impact. Thanks for another great video 👍
Revision; A similar way for materials to combust in a Diesel engine
I work as a mechanic and you can melt down lead tire weights to use for fishing. I would imagine you could apply the same to custom shotgun slugs.
Absolutely.. many do. Wheel weights are actually harder than pure lead because of the antimony. They make what most refer to as Hard Cast bullets.
The Twisters in this video were made out of range scrap that was around 8 bhn. I forgot to add that they were originally powder coated and air cooled.
When evaluating rounds for home defense, it might be helpful to test it on a mocked up drywall and 2X4 wall section.
Very few rounds are stopped by 2 sheets of dry wall. Always be sure of what is behind the target.
That being said, most slug rounds will completely penetrate solid body shots.
Relying on chalk and paper to stop a slug is no substitute for marksmanship
The "box of truth" uses a whole series of drywall all separated by 2*4s. It's a pretty easy thing to put together.
@@ScottKenny1978 I am pretty sure that there is no round that will stop a bad guy, but won't go through a sheetrock (aka drywall or gypsum board) interior wall.
@@mckenziekeith7434 right. But it might only go through 4 layers of sheetrock (Hornady Critical Defense 5.56, iirc), which means it will go through 2 inner walls and stop.
I'd really like to see what the Gatekeeper slug does versus drywall. I expect it will blow through a lot of sheets, even if it does fully expand just from the drywall.
Thanks for showing me something else, I can't live without.
The Gatekeeper is, without doubt, the most impressive slug for home defense that I have ever seen. Directly after seeing your first video about them, I ordered them. I now have several boxes of them, and after testing them myself, I can state that what you guys show, is exactly what I have seen personally. The Gatekeeper is all I'll ever load in my bedside buddy, she's "The thing that goes BOOM! in the night!". No overpenetration. Insane level of stopping power. Seriously good home defense, and they are worth every penny - I just wish they were MORE available for everyone.
Nothing like seeing you guys expand some cavities in slow motion
Pause..
They have a only fans?
Very effective rounds. Lots of energy being unleashed in different media, so great home defense rounds.
I cast my own, so they don’t cost so much.
Take care and stay safe! God bless! 🙏🎚🇲🇾🇲🇾🇲🇾
I have purchased 50 shells of the Gatekeeper after your first video. They are in my FN SLP, my SLP holds 8plus1. Now extinct. I told everyone the SLP would go extinct and it did.
That energy dump tho
Been waiting for another video. Thanks Jeff and co
The Gatekeeper was my all time favorite. Thanks for the video!
I love this channel. Excellent content, a friendly community and no invasive irrelevant ads or agendas.
Excellent work as always 👍
thanks
That Gatekeeper is "Wicked Pissah" as we say around here. Just fantastic.
Anyone else think the segments are cut with a water jet?
Thanks guys
I always appreciate your content
Been watching for years
thanks Aaron
Would love to see how the plastisol gel blocks would react to these slugs
Thanks for the Goodell info. Just ordered two different types. Shipping was fair as well! American Reloading his 12 gauge hulls and free shipping but seems you'll have to order larger quantities but they also have lots of reloading items and ammo as well for pretty good prices
I loved the contdnt. Id love to see some older stuff revisited. Like wax slugs, sabots slugs in smooth bore comparisons and other cool stuff
thanks!
I found the "gatekeeper" slugs for sale! Not loaded ammo, the slugs themselves, for $2.43/ea. They're produced by a company called "Maker Bullets" under the name "Rex". Although according to their website they are 435gr and not 460gr, I'm assuming the 435gr is without the gas seal/tail piece.
Maker bullets has been waiting months for back ordered copper stock to come in for making these , some of it is just now starting to come in so they should have some ready very soon .
When I checked their website (at least the one that googlebox led me to) the browser said it was broken. (Edit: I just remembered that it wasn't Maker's website that was broken, it was ARM's) Do you have a link to the website that worked for you? I would actually be trying to buy just the slugs because of import/export issues that may arise through an individual attempting to ship ammunition internationally. Just importing the copper projectile and loading on my end may be more feasible. On a side note, it may help that this one has a more neutral name "Rex" instead of "Gatekeeper", as something intended for "self defence" may have import issues. On the other hand I'm looking at these as an anti-bear round, or for other dangerous game, and having a neutral name or one that reflects being used for hunting or livestock protection would help at the border.
Edit: I tried looking up the name and it led to their T-Rex line.
Additional Edit: I found it. I'll drop their SKU for the product to make finding it easier 12ga-435gr-REX-SLUG all one word.
Great news, going to check out those Twisters.
I always love your content very clear explanation of what you are doing and what goes right and what goes wrong without apologizing for not so perfect results! This one was a treat to see great job!!
WHOA! The violent reaction of the ballistic gel when struck by that twister round...
Thank you guys for so much information on ammo, for us the people that don't want to kill unless needed, retired military vet ,,
I don’t know about you, but I don’t want a home defense round that splatters the intruder across my entire house…
Maker makes some phenomenal projectiles. I use maker Rex sub sonics in my 300blk and they’re some devastating rds
They seem to make good stuff.
Reminds me of the .357 defender, always thought that one was crazy
That is definitely a no-gimmick slug too. Not cheap but it's going wreck what it hits.
I was always impressed by the Double Donut, specifically the little gummy worm that got cookie-cutter'd out of the gummy bear. That would have left a permanent cavity that would have drained out in seconds.
lol
For the heat, a few canopies for shade, some misters, and a couple drums of water with a 12v dc pump. Y'all dont get humid like the south, so the mist actually provides good cooling. Use the finest atomizing sprayers, and you wont even feel the moisture in mid 20s% RH
The best slug is the one you have chambered. The second best is everything else. The worst is the one you just yanked wide right of your adversarial target - trust you've got their undivided attention.
😂😂 amen
This is gonna be a whole lot of fun
I remember both videos and they were definitely the most impressive slugs I've ever seen except for maybe the big 2 oz train wreck slug that Breanna handled better than anyone else. Since seeing the videos, I've been trying to find them (as money allows) to test for myself, but didn't know the company names. Thank you for giving them a shout out so that we can more easily find them when they're available.
Good as I'm interested in seeing that odd spherical one in action.
I got lucky and scored two boxes of the Gatekeeper shells as I've got a mag fed shotgun that holds 9+1. Yes, they're more expensive, but if I need more than those ten over the course of my lifetime, or in light of how lethal they are, even if I need all ten, well I figure the situation is above my paygrade anyway.
For the Russian slug, my next firearm purchase is going to be one of those black powder Diablo shotgun pistols so I'll actually be investing in getting one of those molds so I can cast as many as I like - figure I might as well target shoot with what I'll be hunting with.
That was, like always, very interesting and informative. The Gatekeeper is awesome! I agree, if Jurassic Park ever needs shotgun loads, that's it.
I like that you say it is for home defense.... One thing is for sure that perpetrator is never ever coming back, if you put one to the chest. WOW
I know you usually only do shotgun ammo demos. However, by going through ARMs store I found that they make 9mm GATEKEEPER rounds. And I’m genuinely intrigued. Would it be too much to ask for a demo of other such ammo?
Also, huge fan of this awesome channel and watching all the carnage just because.
I've been talking with Maker Bullets who is eager to promote their new stuff with us. ARM just loads other companies ammo .
Awesome videos, I think it's awesome that you give shout outs and give a basic walk thru on your loading process and logic. Couple questions for you if you have the time. 1. What is the best shape for penetration? 2. What is your preferred material (lead copper brass composite cast)?
That twister is the best I have seen yet!
Great video guys. Your Slomo videos are some of the best on UA-cam. A lot of the other channels are just now using high speed cameras so you are way ahead of the game. Keep up the good work.
My favorite is still the gate keeper..its a brutal slog n accurate...so far nothing compares..great video..thanks
HAVE MEEEERCY!!!
THE WOUND TRACK ON BOTH WERE IMPRESSIVE...
BUT THE 5 BUCK A ROUND SLUG?? HOLY JEEBUS!!😱😱
THAT WOULD PUT AN INTRUDER INTO AT LEAST TWO DIFFERENT AREA CODES..🤣🤣🤣🤣
Nice find Jeff..
I've always wanted a shotgun slug that drops a hog and cleans it at the same time.
For someone who has never shot a gun or makes their own ammunition…I find your work to Be very interesting and enjoyable, thanks.
Thank you. If you ever get a chance, try it!
The energy transfer of that last round was insane, I thought the block was going to rip itself apart
Are you the gate keeper? I am the key master.
Those Slug are truly AWESOME.....l remember these video's....But it is amazing to see them again Thanks Jeff.....Shoe🇺🇸
Very Very cool Comparison. A super fun video!
It's super hot in IL as well... burning hot.
Looking forward to see these new slugs - they sure do look awesome.
Thanks Saar. I'm ready for winter for sure.
Please bring back the extreme penetrator shotgun slug. Those were awesome too! Is love to see a comparison between the Gatekeeper and the Extreme Penetrator slugs
That was an awesome recap video. Perhaps you could do a revisit and compare these two great slugs head to head?
Oddly enough, "Pork Explosion" was the name of my rural Alabama Baptist Square Dance Extreme Melodic Death Electrona band in the early 2000s...
Ballistic jelly show what a slug does to a body...the best family defender. Thank you guys for help me maintain may sanity
Glad to help
WOW!! 😳
That gatekeeper slug is diabolical, fkkn love it 👌
I've shot the Makers before. Still have a few boxes. Paul the owner of Maker is a cool guy. From what I was told Paul sells these to Texas law enforcement agencies. They were called T-Rex when we tested them with him. Very good for home defence.
He also made them in pistol and rifle calibers too.
Watching that ballistic gel dance is always a good time. I have a buddy that pours a lot of lead for fishing and I'm gonna show him that copper/brass ceramic coating. We might be able to trade off some work in exchange. Thanks for showing everything. Good luck on the heat. I hope you guys are doing well. Stay cool. 🤙🏾
See if he will pour you some slugs!
@@taofledermaus I taught him how to make silicone molds a few years back. I'll have to get my hands on a slug mold or two and I bet we can come up with something. I honestly appreciate the inspiration. It's been awhile since I felt compelled to do something new. Thanks, brother. 🤙🏾
Awesome! All I can say is WOW!
Just think being shot with one of those. It would shoot a leg or arm off.
Or blow a body part out.
On the guy that makes just the slug, there was one shaped like a ball. Have you guys shot it?
Thanks for the video
I just got all those slugs in and will be shooting them all. Just could not get anything arranged to shoot this weekend.
@@taofledermaus thanks
I think the most effective slug (or bullet for that matter) would be one that acts like the gatekeeper slug and expands in the first few inches of flesh (let's say half) and then fragments like the twister in the last few.
That would give you a massive entrance hold like a conventional hollow point but also increase your likelihood of hitting vital organs like a fragmenting slug
The expansion or fragmentation is always going to occur after a inch or two where the speed, pressure and resistance is highest.
Those are two wicked looking rounds.
Winchester super x 2 3/4 deee slug preform similar, expands fast and turns into a donut, 12 to 16 inch penetration
Bullet of Prince Shirinsky - Shikhmatov. Invented more than 100 years ago for bear hunting
Next time Greg is in Oklahoma maybe he can show me how to reload shotgun reloading. I inherited a 12 gauge and 20 gauge reloader. I've always reloaded rifle rounds, 270 and 243.
Both of these slugs are just devastating, but I'm pretty sure the old standard foster slugs do a great job for the money and availability. I do live in a spot where over penetration in home defense situation is not a big issue though.
The gatekeeper is a jaw dropping round, it'll remove a leg or arm if hits. If center or off D.O.A. I don't even want to think of the mess a headshot would make🤠
The Gatekeeper: for when you simutanuously need home defense and a basketball hoop.
lol
So its come to this, a clip show... Still watched and enjoyed the extra background info.
I was literally just wondering what the best slug you fired was earlier this afternoon 😂🤣😂…. Great video.. keep up the good work!
Thanks 👍
Why have no major ammo manufacturer bought the rights to these? These would go like crazy. Hunting, where you cant use lead. Home defense... The next test I would like to see is accuracy out to 100 yards with a smooth bore and a fully rifled barrel. Great vid. guys.
Fantastic as always .I am trying to find a new recipe for slugs ..I am using imr 4756 I use 39 grains with a 32 gram diablo slug .Down to my last 2 pounds 4756 .Wondering what you have for ideas with HS6 or longshot for magnum slug and buckshot loads
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Try Blue Dot
@@taofledermaus I have BPI'S slug and buck shot reloading manual ,but it's out of date.Im sure I saw some HS6 loads or long shot.hope i don't have to change the wads as well .Have to get some slugs ready for Controlled Hunt In Southern Ontario .The diablo slugs fit perfect in the wads I'm using and make flawless 3 inch shells .I get better than 4 inch groups free hand at 80 yards through a 24 inch smooth bore .More than good enough where I go .Most deer are taken within 30 yards because it's shotgun only .No rifles allowed .Thank you again .keep up the great work you guys do .Personal defence 800fps is best .same speed I use for my 12 gauge and 38special hbwc loaded backwards ! fantastic hollow point !
@@carlubambi5541 4" at 80 yards? I really hope you are hunting in thick vegetation up close because this wouldn't be allowed to be taken where I hunt. We would never let someone that shots like that hunt our properties.
@@joshua_J more than accurate enough for an ethical kill .I I shoot my 3 1/2 inch rifles barrel .I can get a 2 inch group at about 120 yards .Never shot past 150 with a shotgun .Some guys claim 20O yards on certain sabot slugs .I can hit an 8 inch plate at 1000 with my savage 111 in 300 win .Can't use that where I go deer hunting .it's shotgun only .I can get a 1 1/2 group with my 243 at 250 .But haven't found the right 100 grain bullet .Going to try the cheap Remington green and white 100 grains next .and see if it gets any better.What works on one gun doesn't work on another .Time to experiment further .So far the 243 does not like Hornady nor Winchester ...But my 300 loves the 180 grain Remington green and white box .I have a redfield 3x9 on the 243 and Burris fullfield now on my 300 win .Had a bigger scope but difficult to use in some places. Need a much more open space to use the big scope but it was fun to use at the range
I have 410, 28,20 and 12 gauge shotguns. I can't find any defensive loads in 28 gauge and very few in 410. I would love to see the lesser bores demo-ed with the more obtainable twister slug for use by my smaller statured friends.
Stay cool out there Jeff! I remember both those slug tests and they were both crazy
Can't wait for the end of year wrap up with super odd fun things
Maker Bullets are some of my favorite.
Y’all tested an ultra deep hollow point that took a core sample of the ballistic gel with it that I thought was really impressive too and did well against the lead plate iirc.
I think it would be cool if you revisit some of the classic loads like a cut shell or the hot glue and bird shot. Those are always fun.
Outstanding video and details. Gatekeeper is incredible performance and a true GUT BLASTER!! The clean up after the shot would be insane. The twister is on par IMO. Especially being available and able to create the ideal load for your defense or hunting needs.
Watched again and see that the Twister is the one that exploded the pork shoulder thingy. IMO the twister slowed down just a little for HD is optimal due to fragmentation/energy dump/availability and you can load your own velocities.
Great stuff. Thanks so much. Excited to know where to buy slugs for handloads.
It's going to be a good place. His selection is getting bigger by the day.
@@taofledermaus Thank you again. Appreciate all the thought, time, energy & resources invested.
Wouldn't wanna get hit with that twister. The cavitation was terrifying. I mean I wouldn't ever wanna get shot but that put a different fear in me
Good Lord, those things are violent on impact. We have a couple of .69 cal CW-era rifled muskets, would be neat to compare the two. Though I don't know how well I would handle a full service charge in that thing. I've only shot it with the roughly half-ish powder loads we use in competition, since we usually only shoot at 50 and 100 yards. It's incredibly rare that we ever need to reach out to 1000 yards. I have a feeling those slugs would still be quite a bit nastier due to the insane expansion, but it would be neat to see anyway.
I was impressed when we shot .69 cal Minie' balls from a 12ga. The kick was horrible with a light shotgun but they sure flew well.
Ive been looking for a new vid for days.. Im excited.
These 2 rounds are impressive performers
I always thought it was a toss-up between the "Gatekeeper" and the "Extreme Penetrator" rounds.
The Extremely Russian penetrators were just a prototype.
@@taofledermaus they were still pretty awesome though. 😎
Idk, as an Idahoan, most gun shop workers/owners are pretty nice