System Specs : i3 12100 - amzn.to/3zzxlZ2 R5 3600 - amzn.to/3n3YApJ ASUS TUF Gaming - amzn.to/3HzUfCq Rog Crosshair VIII Hero - amzn.to/33oYgLf | Bios 3801 Nvidia Geforce RTX 3090 amzn.to/3o0fTYh Memory : 2X16 GB 3600 mhz G Skill TridentZ Neo 16-18-18-38 amzn.to/2YhYstm CPU Cooler Noctua NH-D15S amzn.to/3k4W9l6 1 TB Corsair Force MP600 amzn.to/3o0gqtf Operating System: Windows 11 Pro Nvidia Driver version 497.29 Timestamps : 0:00 Battlefield 2042 1:02 Forza Horizon 5 2:04 Microsoft Flight Simulator 2:46 CSGO 3:48 Red Dead Redemption 2 4:39 The Witcher 3 5:40 The Shadow of The Tomb Raider 6:23 Rainbow 6 Seige 7:25 Cyberpunk 2077 8:06 Metro Exodus i3 12100 is the new Budget King. Best value CPU for gaming in 2022.
can you do with a cheaper GPU 4GB card like and basic motherboard not high end? building a cheaper rig. while choosing one of this processor or i5-10th gen or even i7-4th or 6th gen.
@@goregejones7248 On a low end CPU with a maximum power draw of at most 65 Watts, unless the VRM is explosive or defective, any motherboard would give the same performance. With exception of the H610 in case you want to overclock memory.
Gotta say, this is extremly impressive performance for a quad core that costs so little. However, its price/performance hinges highly on motherboard costs of b660 and intel likes to increase board prices every generation so that might be a deal killer. But at least this year shapes up to be very interesting in CPU department.
I mean, i was about to build a budget gaming rig soon, and was thinking b450/R3 2200G and then get an rx570 or better, then swap out the 2200g for a 5600 and eventually R9 + RTX3000 series. But looking at this, starting with 12100F and jump straight to RX560 or even RX550 with a Z690 to make 12900k relevant later is probably better, even tho its "only" capped at 12900k. But if AMDs AM5 can support multiple gen like AM4 did, i would need to reconsider my choice.
@@furydua781 12900K is already better than the 5950X and the 13900K is going to have twice the E cores and better single thread. This is going to be one insanely good platform.
@@furydua781 I get your reasoning and it's great you're considering future upgradeability, but this approach rarely pays off. You're probably considering the cheapest Z690 (Asrock) boards then right? Well they won't run your future 12900K at full potential anyways (see Hardware Unboxed). You'll need to upgrade your cooling, power supply... By the time you can afford a 12900K it won't be worth it. Would you for example buy a used 9900K today for $300 (that can pull 145 Watts if you still had a Z390 board, when the 12100F beats it? Are you going with a DDR5 board to be future proof? DDR5 is very expensive now... What's your budget and what do you want to play now?
@@everope i mean where i live, most of the used PC parts can still sell for atleast 50% its new price, since theres such a big market for a cheap parts (mind you most of them still buys 7700k or even 6th gen for their budget build, idk if theyre dumb, or idiots). So for cooling, PSU, and CPU i can get rid of them and get some financial help from them and upgrade them. About budget, im not sure, its quite complicated and i dont think i can afford to churn out like $500 in a single month, thats why i was thinking about the first team red route. Since beggars can't be choosers, ill just play whatever my pc can handle. 2200g is surprisingly good tbh, and it is dirt cheap. Also regarding Z690, i dont really mind to run 12900k not with its full potential for some time, because im most likely gonna stick with 12600k for a long time, but that is a great info, thank you. Also no, if im gonna build in Q1 ill go with DDR4. I still think im gonna give red team a second chance, ill wait until Q2 and save my money. Because AMD still have my trust with supporting the lower end, budget friendly parts.
Yes, I had a i3 10105f and even that was pretty impressive for the cost , this new i3 looks even better and at the moment the only cheap ryzen cpu is the 5600g in my country and is more than double the price....
Very good video. This is a prime example of what me and another guy were arguing with someone about on another videos comments. More cores does not trump architecture. Same goes for 12100f vs 10400f.
I got a Ryzen 5 1600 + RX570 4GB and they both served me well. I sold that PC and got a Ryzen 5 5600G with Vega 7 iGPU. Sure, the GPU doesn't suffice, but I'm planning on getting a second hand 1060 or 1660ti. Then I see this i3 for 120$ here. Damn, what value. I'm gonna get that one. Tho not many boards here, only 95$ and up for the ugliest boards looking like 40$. The socket is too new
Is this right? Comparing this test with the Intel Core i5 12600K vs i7 12700K vs i9 12900K review you made, this processor is getting higher avg fps in some games, I don't understand, please clarify.
@@gametests Not because CSGO but because I am seeing this results from your data: RDR2: i3 156 (avg fps) vs i5 151 Shadow of TR: i3 169 vs i5 198 Cyberpunk: i3 106 vs i5 137 Is that with the same game settings? Is quite shocking if true
@@GXSergio that must be due to disimilar game settings which I don't remember for that video exactly. As it's not possible for i3 to be faster than i5.
Dont listen to Tech Deals or anybody who says 4 cores are dead, and 6 cores are stupid and you need 8 cores for the future. Its bullshit and all about IPC and cache. Very very very few games need more than 4c 8t to run smoothly. Just till now a lot of 4 core chips were kinda slow or only as fast as the 7700K
@@Angel7black Right, more than 4C/8T and 12GB RAM are not really needed for Ultra Gaming (IPC), still the sweetspot today. If you wanna go for more futureproofness just crank up the settings a little, 6 Cores (IPC) and 16GB and you are more than good for the next years to come...in the end its all about your GPU
More than 4C/8T and 12GB RAM are not really needed for Ultra Gaming (IPC), still the sweetspot today. If you wanna go for more futureproofness just crank up the settings a little, 6 Cores (IPC) and 16GB and you are more than good for the next years to come...in the end its all about your GPU
What you do is, break off all those extra bits of wire AMD leaves sticking out of the bottom of the CPU so that you have a nice flat mating surface. Then you just install your CPU like normal 🤣
The i3 has 4 cores 8 threads, while the ryzen 3600 has 6 cores and 12 threads, so for example if a game fully utilizes the i3, the 3600 would not be at 100%
@@chovekb It's special because it's over 40% in IPC increase for two years which is NOT common in the CPU market since many years or a very, very long time.
Intel wasn't lying when they said 4 cores is enough for gaming. It's just that the 7700K aged after 5 years. One big IPC jump though and 4c/8t is doing 144hz gaming again EZ.
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i3 12100 - amzn.to/3zzxlZ2
R5 3600 - amzn.to/3n3YApJ
ASUS TUF Gaming - amzn.to/3HzUfCq
Rog Crosshair VIII Hero - amzn.to/33oYgLf
| Bios 3801
Nvidia Geforce RTX 3090 amzn.to/3o0fTYh
Memory :
2X16 GB 3600 mhz G Skill TridentZ Neo
16-18-18-38 amzn.to/2YhYstm
CPU Cooler
Noctua NH-D15S amzn.to/3k4W9l6
1 TB Corsair Force MP600 amzn.to/3o0gqtf
Operating System:
Windows 11 Pro
Nvidia Driver version 497.29
Timestamps :
0:00 Battlefield 2042
1:02 Forza Horizon 5
2:04 Microsoft Flight Simulator
2:46 CSGO
3:48 Red Dead Redemption 2
4:39 The Witcher 3
5:40 The Shadow of The Tomb Raider
6:23 Rainbow 6 Seige
7:25 Cyberpunk 2077
8:06 Metro Exodus
i3 12100 is the new Budget King. Best value CPU for gaming in 2022.
what air cooler did you use to keep the i3 cool
oops can you test in dota 2?
can you do with a cheaper GPU 4GB card like and basic motherboard not high end?
building a cheaper rig. while choosing one of this processor or i5-10th gen or even i7-4th or 6th gen.
Thanks a lot! I saw the bench of 12100 with 5600x. Even at the match, 12100 showed fps equivalent to 5600x. I think Intel made a huge budget killer
Yes but don't forget those benchmark were made in high end motherboard z690 , for budget motherboards such h610 , b660 you may get little less fps
@@goregejones7248 On a low end CPU with a maximum power draw of at most 65 Watts, unless the VRM is explosive or defective, any motherboard would give the same performance. With exception of the H610 in case you want to overclock memory.
It looks like we got reincarnation of Core 2 Duo.
@@goregejones7248 b660 and z690 are the same performance on the 12100, it makes no difference man
@@monke2361 bro what do you think if i pair i3 with 1650 gpu how much perfy or fps will i get as compared to this
12100 is a beast in gaming.
Gotta say, this is extremly impressive performance for a quad core that costs so little. However, its price/performance hinges highly on motherboard costs of b660 and intel likes to increase board prices every generation so that might be a deal killer. But at least this year shapes up to be very interesting in CPU department.
I mean, i was about to build a budget gaming rig soon, and was thinking b450/R3 2200G and then get an rx570 or better, then swap out the 2200g for a 5600 and eventually R9 + RTX3000 series. But looking at this, starting with 12100F and jump straight to RX560 or even RX550 with a Z690 to make 12900k relevant later is probably better, even tho its "only" capped at 12900k. But if AMDs AM5 can support multiple gen like AM4 did, i would need to reconsider my choice.
@@furydua781 12900K is already better than the 5950X and the 13900K is going to have twice the E cores and better single thread. This is going to be one insanely good platform.
@@furydua781 I get your reasoning and it's great you're considering future upgradeability, but this approach rarely pays off. You're probably considering the cheapest Z690 (Asrock) boards then right? Well they won't run your future 12900K at full potential anyways (see Hardware Unboxed). You'll need to upgrade your cooling, power supply... By the time you can afford a 12900K it won't be worth it. Would you for example buy a used 9900K today for $300 (that can pull 145 Watts if you still had a Z390 board, when the 12100F beats it?
Are you going with a DDR5 board to be future proof? DDR5 is very expensive now...
What's your budget and what do you want to play now?
@@Ang3lUki yeah, i was so happy when i learned AM4 upgradability, but i guess its old news now.
@@everope i mean where i live, most of the used PC parts can still sell for atleast 50% its new price, since theres such a big market for a cheap parts (mind you most of them still buys 7700k or even 6th gen for their budget build, idk if theyre dumb, or idiots). So for cooling, PSU, and CPU i can get rid of them and get some financial help from them and upgrade them.
About budget, im not sure, its quite complicated and i dont think i can afford to churn out like $500 in a single month, thats why i was thinking about the first team red route. Since beggars can't be choosers, ill just play whatever my pc can handle. 2200g is surprisingly good tbh, and it is dirt cheap.
Also regarding Z690, i dont really mind to run 12900k not with its full potential for some time, because im most likely gonna stick with 12600k for a long time, but that is a great info, thank you. Also no, if im gonna build in Q1 ill go with DDR4.
I still think im gonna give red team a second chance, ill wait until Q2 and save my money. Because AMD still have my trust with supporting the lower end, budget friendly parts.
Intel is back BABY!
HAHAHA have some fun for just a few months boy!
@@chovekb OK and you AMD fan fanboys can have fun with zen4 for few months too lol
@@fired777 No, You!
You should lay off some of that copium bro
@@fired777 i5-12400 still sucking to 56000X and 12600K to 5800X LOOOL and Ryzen Zen3+ and Zen4 are coming in few months LOLOLOL OH MY BACK.
Hello, it would be interesting to see the tests in 4k of these processors with a 3090 video card
Can't wait to build pc with 12100
bro what do you think if i pair i3 with 1650 gpu how much performance or fps will i get as compared to this
CS:GO: 400+ FPS
This Video: 60...
My brain: wtf, 400fps i can see all of it
Аплодирую стоя, за тест бюджетника с Топом 3090!!! , Автору спасибище, т.к. видео Отвечает на Хреналион вопросов желающим собрать комп поиграть!!!)
пусть поставит разрешение повыше и не хватит этой видеокарты на обоих процессорах
so basically 12100 = 10700 ?
Now we need a b660 board for $100.
And Intel dGPU for $100
H610 will do pretty fine
H610 not B660 for 100$
And a gpu 😭
What we really need is a gpu under $200, those gt 730, 710, and 1030 don't count
Were you using a stock cooler for both cpu's?
Good video, could you do another video with 1440p and 4k, to make sure that 12100 is better value at those levels with high end GPUs?
Finally a budget CPU.
Yes, I had a i3 10105f and even that was pretty impressive for the cost , this new i3 looks even better and at the moment the only cheap ryzen cpu is the 5600g in my country and is more than double the price....
can anyone tell me why he is using graphic card with these APUs?
xd
Very good video. This is a prime example of what me and another guy were arguing with someone about on another videos comments. More cores does not trump architecture. Same goes for 12100f vs 10400f.
Sorry AMD fans (like me),but intel is built different for this hard times
I got a Ryzen 5 1600 + RX570 4GB and they both served me well. I sold that PC and got a Ryzen 5 5600G with Vega 7 iGPU. Sure, the GPU doesn't suffice, but I'm planning on getting a second hand 1060 or 1660ti. Then I see this i3 for 120$ here. Damn, what value. I'm gonna get that one. Tho not many boards here, only 95$ and up for the ugliest boards looking like 40$. The socket is too new
Is this right? Comparing this test with the Intel Core i5 12600K vs i7 12700K vs i9 12900K review you made, this processor is getting higher avg fps in some games, I don't understand, please clarify.
Yes, In CSGO it's maybe due to MSAA option was enabled for that benchmark at 8x. that's why it's getting less fps.
@@gametests Not because CSGO but because I am seeing this results from your data:
RDR2: i3 156 (avg fps) vs i5 151
Shadow of TR: i3 169 vs i5 198
Cyberpunk: i3 106 vs i5 137
Is that with the same game settings? Is quite shocking if true
@@GXSergio that must be due to disimilar game settings which I don't remember for that video exactly. As it's not possible for i3 to be faster than i5.
I've just got my i3 12100 pc built😍
What? Is it not bottlenecking the GPU though? How is the CPU use only at 70-80%
is this core i3 running games on ddr4 or ddr5 rams?
Rtx 3050 and i3 12100 are best budget combo right now
Rx 6600
i3 12100 is really impressive
And i thought 4 Cores time has come thank God i watch this video otherwise i was going to buy 11400 soon
Dont listen to Tech Deals or anybody who says 4 cores are dead, and 6 cores are stupid and you need 8 cores for the future. Its bullshit and all about IPC and cache. Very very very few games need more than 4c 8t to run smoothly. Just till now a lot of 4 core chips were kinda slow or only as fast as the 7700K
@@Angel7black Right, more than 4C/8T and 12GB RAM are not really needed for Ultra Gaming (IPC), still the sweetspot today. If you wanna go for more futureproofness just crank up the settings a little, 6 Cores (IPC) and 16GB and you are more than good for the next years to come...in the end its all about your GPU
What if we use 1650super with intel i3 12100 please i wants to know
You won't see any cpu bottleneck.
What is bottleneck bro
@@mandogaming1683 when cpu is super powerful and the gpu is weak or vice versa and they limit each other.
More than 4C/8T and 12GB RAM are not really needed for Ultra Gaming (IPC), still the sweetspot today. If you wanna go for more futureproofness just crank up the settings a little, 6 Cores (IPC) and 16GB and you are more than good for the next years to come...in the end its all about your GPU
It's not all about GPU lol. Anything older than Ryzen/Coffee Lake already struggles heavily these days
Intel core i3 and i5 is the best for low budget gaming 1080p.
Any tips on how to install my 3600 on a Z590 / Z690? Curious how you managed to do that
what
It's X570, that was a typo, I have edited.
What you do is, break off all those extra bits of wire AMD leaves sticking out of the bottom of the CPU so that you have a nice flat mating surface. Then you just install your CPU like normal 🤣
I don't get why both of them can't run at 100% usage constantly...
pls i5 10400 vs i3-12100F
12100 wins imo
Now ryzen 5 3600 price has dropped so low and now you can go with it compared to i3 121000
3600 and 12100f is the same price in my country
So as of today this chip doesn't exist anywhere in the USA already...
Intel nailed it 😌
good proc the problem is the board a bit expensive
It think it's worth saying up money for an extra week or two for it
The problem is the lack of e cores, intel could make this i3 a 8 core 12 thread CPU instead of a traditional quad core.
why r5 3600 usage is lower than i3?
I think if both cpus usage were same,fps will be similar
The i3 has 4 cores 8 threads, while the ryzen 3600 has 6 cores and 12 threads, so for example if a game fully utilizes the i3, the 3600 would not be at 100%
Because the 3600 has more cores and most games don't fully utilize more than 4 cores.
i just couldnt believe that i3 beats i5 in gaming??? is this same game settings??
Definitely No
Wait till you see a i3 12100 vs an i7 930.
it's just 2 cores difference, but whole TWO YEARS+ difference as well, so nothing special.
@@chovekb It's special because it's over 40% in IPC increase for two years which is NOT common in the CPU market since many years or a very, very long time.
intel comeback
Impressive
Intel always more cooler and more power than Ryzen. I saw future for intel 😍😍😍😍
can you show us how good Core i3 12100 igpu?
Ehhh, just search for a UHD 730 benchmark, the thing should be on par with a GT 730/720
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@@gametests thanks
4 cores vs 6 core still 4 cores wins WTF 💔
Intel wasn't lying when they said 4 cores is enough for gaming. It's just that the 7700K aged after 5 years. One big IPC jump though and 4c/8t is doing 144hz gaming again EZ.
Two years and generations difference, that.
nice benchmark
8:09 Music name?
Max Brohn Cyberpunk
@@gametests thank you
The i3 is jumping around 80% while r5 is around 60%
Fanboy detected
@@Renekor Lol I am not a fan boy I belive in competition so that we can get things cheap
👍👍🔥
Intel is bs Amd is holding crown even if 3600 cost 500 it is better because I love Amd
Fanboy detected
all i can say "bootleneck"
Pero funciona muy bien..