VW Golf R vs BMW M135i: Who builds the greatest hot hatch?

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  • Опубліковано 26 вер 2024
  • The 2021 VW Golf R is an extremely exciting and well-rounded hot hatch. But so too is the 2021 BMW M135i xDrive. So which one is better? In this CarGurus UK review, Dan Prosser puts these two 300 horsepower, four-wheel-drive hot hatches to the test to deliver the verdict.
    BMW 1 series written review: www.cargurus.c...
    BMW
    Pros
    Latest model offers more interior space than its predecessor
    Cabin is made from high-quality materials
    Engaging to drive
    Cons
    Firm ride, especially if you choose an M Sport
    BMW purists may be put off by the front-wheel-drive chassis
    Not as practical as a Honda Civic or VW Golf
    Golf written review: www.cargurus.c...
    Golf
    Pros
    Desirable image
    Great to drive
    Comfortable ride
    Cons
    Fiddly infotainment system
    Rivals offer more interior space
    Not significantly better than a Mk7 Golf
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 393

  • @ababbington1
    @ababbington1 3 роки тому +43

    I have driven both of these cars and I don’t agree. If you spend all you time racing on private roads on your own then buy the VW. If however you spend most of your time going to work, supermarkets, school etc then the BMW is for you. The interior where you spend all of you time has a far better build quality and the instruments are much easier to use. The problem with motoring journalists is that they are bias because they always lean towards the racing capabilities of a car which simply doesn’t represent everyday driving for nearly everyone else.

    • @oddities-whatnot
      @oddities-whatnot 4 місяці тому +3

      Well said, good point. The BMW interiors are very solid, I like that sort of very dense rubbery material they seem to use on the entire interior, I had a 66 plate Cooper S which had the same material, very nice indeed, much better than Mercedes which rattle with all the cheap plastic or Audi that now look like a Seat inside. Too stark with all those big screens and hardly any controls.

    • @ababbington1
      @ababbington1 4 місяці тому +1

      @@oddities-whatnot I have literally just bought a new M240 xdrive in Thundernight. I can’t tell you how happy I am with the car. The quality is there in and out but it’s a daily driver as well as a sports car. I won’t look at Mercedes, Audi or VW.

    • @howardgregory3888
      @howardgregory3888 2 місяці тому +4

      I have a Mk8 Golf R and my partner has the facelift M135i. So we have a good idea of the pro and cons! Both are high spec so a fair comparison. On balance the Golf is easier to drive (daft software aside)and I would say more comfortable. Slightly better economy. But the BMW is far better built both for quality and construction. It has a harder ride and the seats are flatter so less hugging. It is quieter when cruising. Both go like stink when you floor the throttle. Neither has much of an exhaust note. On balance I would take the Golf (mine has a sunroof whereas hers doesn’t !) but I don’t mind driving either which must suggest they are fairly equal in ability? Cheers.

    • @ababbington1
      @ababbington1 2 місяці тому

      @@howardgregory3888 4 months ago I traded my M235 for the new M240 coupe in purple (thundernight metallic) and omg what a difference.

  • @Simon-du7yx
    @Simon-du7yx 3 роки тому +33

    Remember when idrive came out and every reviewer slagged it off mercilessly for being too complicated ? Now they can’t sing it’s praises high enough

  • @tj9382
    @tj9382 Рік тому +16

    It largely depends on the importance you place on your criteria. But for me, the BMW gets it because of its built quality and pure class and sexiness. On top of that, as someone else pointed out, so many people have a Golf R.

  • @danstewart3894
    @danstewart3894 3 роки тому +20

    I cannot wait for the R to arrive in the states. Whether one tunes it or enjoys it as it is, one will not be disappointed.

    • @scottroberts5529
      @scottroberts5529 3 роки тому +1

      Hopefully we get the special mode and drift mode

    • @Daveyboy_GolfR
      @Daveyboy_GolfR 3 роки тому

      yep, outdoor Lane is correct, we're going to get all that the UK cars have except some minor cosmetic cabin things like the material on the seats I think. I have a 2015 mk7r that I paid $38, 900 before taxes and registration. There were no boxes to tick. Except one option. either get the DCC ($2500), or the non-dcc. But most of the cars that came from the factory were equipped with the DCC option, and it was a must have. The DCC option also came with nav, upgraded stereo and sub in the trunk. But at least VW was being reasonable and included all options as the R was already pushing 40,000 bucks.
      But now, we got a little more HP, a rear e-diff, akropovic exhaust, drift modes, those 19s and much more. But, if you want all those goodies now you got to pay. You want to send 80% to the rear, AKA drift mode, you got to pay for the R performance package, pay for the akropovic exhaust, pay for the DCC adaptive dampers, pay for those 19s you see in this video. Etc etc etc until you're looking at over 50 Grand. More like 55 with a bunch of stuff I haven't mentioned and taxes Etc. That's almost RS3 territory, and even more than the new m240i with 335 HP and 370 lb ft. Not the weak little 1 series hatchback in the video. And I love my mk7 R. Got everything done, APR ECU stage 2 and TCU and FBO. 0-60 in 3.52. The mqb platform is the greatest on the planet for modding. My first mod was a simple stage 1 APR ECU tune, and it bumped me up from 292 HP to 371 for a simple $699 and 10 minutes of my time, bringing me to 60 in 3.9 from 4.8 and the quarter in just under 12sec. Just with that one ECU mod.
      I love the new mk8r even more. Everything about it and was 100% sure I wanted it until I saw the pricing layout.
      It's just way WAY too expensive when you can get a barely used mk7.5 and save 20 grand. You want big power? Throw in a downpipe, and go stage 2 ECU tune, and some good rubber (cost You less than $2,500) and you've got yourself supercar acceleration without compromising on comfort or practicality. Even if you're tracking the vehicle almost exclusively, for 50-55k you've got better options. For 40K you don't and that's why the mk7/7.5R is the best overall performance car around the 40K mark.

  • @johnwjeromejr
    @johnwjeromejr 3 роки тому +61

    The secret is slowly getting out that the new Golf R is considerably faster than the numbers indicate. At least two other reviewers are coming up with some startling numbers that blow its competitors out of the water.

    • @onepunch9
      @onepunch9 3 роки тому +8

      Yes they've put one on a rolling road and it was over 350bhp.

    • @alexandercooper8743
      @alexandercooper8743 3 роки тому +3

      @@onepunch9 Yep at least 340 bhp, new Continental Turbocharger, improved gear ratios and upgraded 4 wheel drive with same Torque Vectoring Diff as in the new 2022 Audi RS3.

    • @PapiAndrey
      @PapiAndrey 3 роки тому +1

      @@alexandercooper8743 I can’t wait to see reviews of the new Rs3! That car is going to be insane when tuned

    • @emiliospowerballer1441
      @emiliospowerballer1441 2 роки тому

      Yes, carwow actually measured 4 seconds dead from 0 to 60

    • @mattyoz0
      @mattyoz0 2 роки тому +2

      @@emiliospowerballer1441 Don't go off carwow he uses the roll out setting.

  • @tomgray6716
    @tomgray6716 3 роки тому +37

    BMW cabin in the golf would be the perfect hot hatch. The poor quality of the golf R interior is enough for me to steer clear

    • @jondonnelly3
      @jondonnelly3 3 роки тому +3

      Like other reviews have said, don't like the touch system, interior same as a rline golf, crap fake sound. It's just bad enough to stick with the old version.

    • @nathantaylor8804
      @nathantaylor8804 3 роки тому +4

      If buying a hot hatch the interior is not my 1st concern to be honest, is just a hot hatch at the end of the day

    • @skyscrapesthetower
      @skyscrapesthetower 3 роки тому +3

      @@nathantaylor8804 A true car enthusiast 👏 A car in that price range better be like a Swiss Army Knife when I adventure around no matter day, time, or condition.

    • @shauntompkins5061
      @shauntompkins5061 3 роки тому +3

      @@nathantaylor8804 exactly that! If I’m concerned about interior quality, I’m not buying a hot hatch.

    • @JDDD33
      @JDDD33 3 роки тому +1

      Same. And I own a mk7 R. Wouldn't buy the mk8 because of the interior.

  • @coquio
    @coquio Рік тому +4

    Why are people adding as asterisk to the way the BMW looks, when that Golf looks like utter shit?

  • @jamiep61
    @jamiep61 3 роки тому +33

    I enjoyed watching the Video Comparison. My choice would be the New Golf R

  • @slen6293
    @slen6293 3 роки тому +17

    BMW all the way. That interior on the golf would drive me mad as a daily.
    BMW needs the 19” wheels though to compare on looks

    • @ThisIsMTH
      @ThisIsMTH 3 роки тому

      Agree, but then ride takes a hit. Shame you can’t get 19s and adaptive.

    • @mikeh9829
      @mikeh9829 3 роки тому

      @@ThisIsMTH the ride on the 19s is fine, although its even better with Michelin tyres than the Bridgestone ones. Mine are Bridgestone, but someone said the Michelins are better.

  • @spoonfed7724
    @spoonfed7724 9 місяців тому +2

    2 years later , the bmw you can pic up for 23k cheapest. Golf R still looking at around 30k still. Madness

  • @paultaylor9652
    @paultaylor9652 3 роки тому +39

    Surely if it is going to be used as a daily, would you REALLY want to put up with looking at that awful dash and seat trim every single day, I'd rather put up with the few flaws of the BMW. Neither are perfect but if it was my money it would be the BMW.

    • @robertregan2305
      @robertregan2305 3 роки тому +3

      Well said brother 👏

    • @HotHatchTV
      @HotHatchTV 3 роки тому

      Take the leather interior, looks better. I don't have a problem with the dash, except that the should have used buttons for climate control

    • @michaelcameron2292
      @michaelcameron2292 3 роки тому +3

      BMW is far better looks much better decor inside blows the Golf out the water Comfort sound win win

    • @adrianbriggs2763
      @adrianbriggs2763 2 роки тому +3

      Having driven both and used both as day to day.... the BMW rates in a huge new category over the R anyday everyday, the R is just too boy racer

    • @allosaurusfragilis7782
      @allosaurusfragilis7782 2 роки тому +1

      I hate touchscreens

  • @Supercarsofcheshire007
    @Supercarsofcheshire007 3 роки тому +32

    The Golf R goes from strength to strength..... admittedly with some flaws.

    • @krane15
      @krane15 2 роки тому

      It has a lot of flaw. Unfortunately, they're not that kind that any owners can ignore since they're all right in your face. Class leading performance, and even fit and finish, but crappy interiors. The materials are down right cheap.

  • @stupidthinking3905
    @stupidthinking3905 3 роки тому +16

    M 135i 👍👍👍

  • @SKEGZ
    @SKEGZ 3 роки тому +7

    Honestly, golf r is a weapon, quickest in the segment. I'm not buying a hot hatch for an interior. That is secondary imo. This thing spanks everything in class including the bmw.

  • @shaheenevans
    @shaheenevans 3 роки тому +2

    Gearbox quote for BMW - drunk at a party is gold

  • @w00t777
    @w00t777 3 роки тому +58

    that Golf R cabin is enough not to consider it at all.... atrocious

    • @wd9165
      @wd9165 3 роки тому +16

      The same can be said for the exterior of the BMW…

    • @blue-ck9ns
      @blue-ck9ns 3 роки тому +2

      I hate the new Golf interior. Looks cheap. The old interior was much better...

    • @gamingmadforever6363
      @gamingmadforever6363 2 роки тому +1

      @@wd9165 100% what I eas thinking 🤔 👍

    • @spoonfed7724
      @spoonfed7724 9 місяців тому

      Not far off from my Citroen berlingo van 😅

  • @blackcatsarenopussies
    @blackcatsarenopussies 3 роки тому +2

    Back when Golf used to be the benchmark for ergonomy.
    Mk7 will go down in history as the best of all times

  • @fercitowow
    @fercitowow 3 роки тому +4

    Great review, great result, Golf R is the driver´s choice!

  • @paulanthony2024
    @paulanthony2024 3 роки тому +32

    BMW all day ....everyone in the world has a golf r ...

    • @AnthonyWilliams-vh1ds
      @AnthonyWilliams-vh1ds 3 роки тому +2

      Shame they ruined the golfs face

    • @PapiAndrey
      @PapiAndrey 3 роки тому +1

      That doesn’t matter though, but maybe that’s because I live in the US so i can’t really relate

    • @bh4560
      @bh4560 3 роки тому +1

      Clit cars! 🤣

    • @augustinedennis4865
      @augustinedennis4865 2 роки тому

      Why?😂😂😂

    • @augustinedennis4865
      @augustinedennis4865 2 роки тому +1

      And we know why,The R is superb,though a little more expensive.

  • @modmod392
    @modmod392 3 роки тому +27

    MK 8 Golf R interior = VW Dieselgate pay back. 🙁

  • @robertregan2305
    @robertregan2305 3 роки тому +9

    BMW M140i ALL DAY LONG 😋👌

  • @paulgray9989
    @paulgray9989 3 роки тому +1

    Ive just purchased a Tiguan R. The power definitely feels more than the quoted figures. I've always been a BMW fan and yes the interiors are nicer but Im well impressed with 2 litre engine.

  • @sammbaldwin6402
    @sammbaldwin6402 3 роки тому +3

    Some cracking deals on pcp on these cars, I like the golf but it's interior let's it down a bit compared with the 135I

  • @mikem314
    @mikem314 3 роки тому +8

    Golf R anyday. 135 without the straight 6 is not the same.

  • @Tigerex966
    @Tigerex966 3 роки тому +5

    For me, and just me, no manual no buy.

  • @Nick-bc3gf
    @Nick-bc3gf 3 роки тому +1

    VW is a VW at the the end of the day and doesn't carry the name the other three Germans carry when being talked about by most car enthusiasts

  • @juraj_b
    @juraj_b 3 роки тому +4

    As a current BMW 125i owner, I’d be happy with either but maybe bit more with m140i and its 6 cylinders 😏

    • @krane15
      @krane15 2 роки тому

      Which is dead. As is VWs VR6.

    • @Francloy1
      @Francloy1 2 роки тому

      I own a 135i but the 140i is a better car

  • @kozamo9351
    @kozamo9351 3 роки тому +3

    I just want to know who the hell touches the infotainment screen that much when driving? I would go with the r seeing as it's a more fun car and I prefer everything about it over the BMW.

  • @Lemon-x8p
    @Lemon-x8p 3 роки тому +8

    appreciate the review, but i really don't get why the R is being compared to the likes of the S3, A35 and M135i, if those three were to be compared i'd get it but the R is simply a much more powerful car; it's clearly intended to compete with the likes of the A45 RS3.
    That being said, the quality of the interior of the Golf R is shocking, and for something that has a higher price tag it's sad.

  • @andrewmontague2636
    @andrewmontague2636 3 роки тому +4

    Really good, fair review 👍🏼

    • @NoName-rs4us
      @NoName-rs4us 7 місяців тому

      Yes it is....
      Maybe one day other countries will take an example from U.K as well...
      DVLA stands for driver and vehicle licensing agency....
      One office in the country. Number plates are connected with the car...you don't need to change plates when you buy used or new vehicle! and U.K have got counties too.
      No running around to offices and waiting in queue just to register the car. No unnecessary bureaucracy! No sale car tax on used cars either. Most of the time you sort out problems on the phone quickly. You don't have carry all paper work with you all the time that's what ANPR system is for....Common sense...ORDER!

  • @Daveyboy_GolfR
    @Daveyboy_GolfR 3 роки тому +3

    Sure the golf R might perform better when you're giving it the beans. But overall, if priced the same, it's nonsense to get the R over the m135i X drive. And I'm an mk7r owner.

    • @thepineappleburster4439
      @thepineappleburster4439 3 роки тому

      agreed. I own the beemer and its terrific. except the gearbox sucks a bit when pushing the car.. but thats all. Cabin is topnotch for a hothatch and the pre opf sounds very nice. mk8 seems a bit meh on everything except power.

    • @Daveyboy_GolfR
      @Daveyboy_GolfR 3 роки тому

      @@thepineappleburster4439 yeah.... I'm not a big fan of the touch buttons on the steering wheel on the mk8, but yeah it's got some more power and the rear E-LSD, and the acropovic active exhaust (which is almost 5K extra lol). For $699 I put an APR stage 1 tune on my mk7R and brought it up to 379 HP. And then I did some other stuff but still just a simple tune got me under 4 seconds 0-60.
      And my mk7 Golf R was $38,900 us out the door including the adaptive dampers and active exhaust. Volkswagen is getting nuts with their prices.
      In the US we don't get the m135i so I'm looking into the m240i xDrive. I love the 2 series.
      And be it the one series or the 2 Series, there's so much more driver-oriented than the golf R. Steering, handling, cornering balance Etc is on a different level.
      Thanks for the reply

  • @EubanksDVDs
    @EubanksDVDs 2 роки тому +1

    Great review. BUT....£40 grand for a VW, I just couldn't do it to myself.

  • @robertulph
    @robertulph 3 роки тому +4

    You have the akrapovic exhaust on that golf as well. Its not the standard one

  • @cabottaxi
    @cabottaxi 2 роки тому +2

    Give me a BMW gearbox anyday over a VW dsg gearbox

  • @MegaHollywood1971
    @MegaHollywood1971 3 роки тому +3

    The “surge” forward from up shifting is INERTIA - not something BMW did 👍🏻

    • @krane15
      @krane15 2 роки тому

      Gimmick vs crappy engineering. Either way which is worse?

  • @grahamsalmons2027
    @grahamsalmons2027 3 роки тому +36

    None of these tests report soaring insurance premiums because Golf R is one of the most targeted theft cars out there.
    The lack of illumination on the ventilation controls, poor plastics quality and difficult infotainment system would irritate the crap out of me: I just don’t spend enough of my time hooning to make me forget these things.

    • @gymhead
      @gymhead 3 роки тому

      Insurance is no more than my old insignia 2L turbo vxr line... £550 for the year!

    • @grahamsalmons2027
      @grahamsalmons2027 3 роки тому

      @@gymhead I take it back then! Cool!

    • @TravelWithPreston
      @TravelWithPreston 3 роки тому

      @@gymhead 1600 for my 1L polo

    • @Francloy1
      @Francloy1 2 роки тому

      I can't upvote you more than once

  • @jadedFk
    @jadedFk 2 роки тому +4

    Having driven both I agreed the golf is more of a “drivers car” but the bmw is much better for everyday. Interior quality, comfort and feel. In reality where are you going take full advantage of the golf unless you are using it as a track car ?

  • @mars353
    @mars353 3 роки тому +2

    Sitting so low in the seat that you feel like you’re sitting on the floor may appeal to you but I hate it. I would prefer that the seat itself be contoured so that I’m sitting in the seat rather than on top of it but a low seat height is a deal breaker.

    • @seth1455
      @seth1455 3 роки тому +1

      Just thinking the same thing.
      He can have whatever quirky preference he likes, but it's unfair to judge a car by it

    • @allosaurusfragilis7782
      @allosaurusfragilis7782 2 роки тому

      Me too, I like the better visibility you get with a higher seat

  • @FaceliftGT
    @FaceliftGT 3 роки тому +2

    Awesome as always review!, and Agree in your points..even as i have a MK8R home ;)..

  • @pauldewar626
    @pauldewar626 3 роки тому +7

    M140i

    • @DjNikGnashers
      @DjNikGnashers 3 роки тому

      ^ THIS ^
      The best hot hatch, unfortunately not on sale.

  • @Mr2pint
    @Mr2pint 3 роки тому +1

    I'm afraid I don't trust BMW after several ownerships - VW would take my money on this comparison 👍

  • @michaelcameron2292
    @michaelcameron2292 2 роки тому +2

    Depends what age you are BMW for me but then I'm 60

  • @Francloy1
    @Francloy1 2 роки тому +1

    But the better one is a BMW. I own one wirh the orange seats, and it's, all things considered, the winner. That said, these more front wheel drive cars are really dangerous when putting your foot down quickly you need to hold on to them.

  • @andrewmarsden1970
    @andrewmarsden1970 3 роки тому +2

    Both great. Would choose the Golf R. But then I would select an Audi S3 over both.

    • @alanwayte432
      @alanwayte432 3 роки тому +2

      Then you would be wrong

    • @justsomeone9267
      @justsomeone9267 3 роки тому

      @@MT-kx2uc On the road, on daily commutes it's not that noticeable, but it has a far better quality interior, so a better place to be in.

    • @Francloy1
      @Francloy1 2 роки тому

      Probably you are British then

  • @computerscience6579
    @computerscience6579 4 дні тому

    Golf R has really lost its edge thanks to so many younger drivers flocking to it. Now it just blends into traffic and looks like any other car on the road. BMW all the way. Better looks, way better interior, better reliability, better infotainment system...

  • @EastWood2004
    @EastWood2004 3 роки тому +1

    Great review,

  • @AbrahamFarrell
    @AbrahamFarrell 3 роки тому +2

    "The car has a slightly lazy feeling to it" 05:58. I think I've heard all of the reviews of the new Golf R and no one, simply no one has ever said that about this car. They all talk about how much quicker it feels than the last car. In every one of this guys reviews that I've listened to, he does this, says something completely contrary.

    • @toddstevens8506
      @toddstevens8506 3 роки тому

      How a car feels and how fast it goes are two separate matters.

    • @sszhao11
      @sszhao11 3 роки тому

      Turbo cars has a slight lag to build boost. And on regular drives boost is low, and with big turbo, lag is worse and turbo engine have lower compression, so overall so feels sluggish, when you want to thrash it it takes a bit to build boost and rev, then the car goes. I know from my GTI.other reviewer just review full throttle result

  • @jonathantaylor1998
    @jonathantaylor1998 3 роки тому +10

    Hmmm...
    Not convinced...
    I get that the Golf R might be, subjectively, the more exciting car to drive down a twisty B-road... but for the other 99% of the time, when you're in stop-start city traffic, or doing 50 mph through roadworks on a motorway, the dreadful quality of interior of that car - the cheap-feeling seat fabric, the scratchy plastic door trims and those infernal, unlit touch-sensitive control buttons - is going to drive you bonkers...!
    So, is it really worth spending the extra £2k for 1% extra fun...???

  • @alanwayte432
    @alanwayte432 3 роки тому +7

    My wife has just swapped her mk7.5 for 135i why! She could not live with lower build Quality than previous Golf and the new Touchscreen that is seriously dangerous as you have to take your eyes off road to even adjust heating

  • @malt2585
    @malt2585 3 роки тому +7

    I’ve bitten the bullet and ordered a new Golf R with performance pack and DCC, I’ve seen a new Golf R on dyno and out of the box it hit 340bhp, what are they going to do with a stage one tune ??

    • @reifenabhobeler4331
      @reifenabhobeler4331 3 роки тому

      It´s typically for VW to have much more HP than announced to get the testers say "wow, it´s fast for the HP". The testers would be less impressed if VW have only the announced power

  • @alwynmcmath
    @alwynmcmath 3 роки тому

    Both these turbo four pot bland wagons bore the Shizzle out of me. But I can watch Dan Prosser all day long 👍

  • @rongambol9910
    @rongambol9910 3 роки тому +12

    Like the Mk7.5 Golf R ironed out some flaws in the Mk 7, I’m hoping the Mk 8.5 will do the same to the Mk 8. I love my 7.5 and think I’ll wait for the Mk 8 update

    • @adam88099
      @adam88099 3 роки тому +2

      I'm in the same boat as you. I really like the look and what I'm seeing from the power in all the reviews of the mk 8 but the cabin of the 7.5 is just so nice and the 8 looks to me a little bit like a downgrade... Sort of.
      I'm wondering if I just wait for the 8.5...
      Price is concerning me though. I have a feeling it's going to be about $20k-$30k AUD more expensive than the 7.5 was.

    • @rongambol9910
      @rongambol9910 3 роки тому

      Adam Jay
      I think you’re right on the pricing. At least in Australia, the Golf R’s come fully loaded - leather interior, adaptive dampers, 19inch wheels, rear camera in fact the only options available when I bought my 7.5 was sunroof and Dynaudio which I added. Total cost AUD63k - about GBP35k.
      The Mk 8 R is not expected to arrive in Australia until late 21. If the increases in the UK are translated to Oz, it will be more than I’m prepared to pay.

    • @adam88099
      @adam88099 3 роки тому

      @@rongambol9910 well the good news for me is my 7.5 will keep going up in price then. Haha. Used prices are insane at the moment.

    • @swedishbob_7315
      @swedishbob_7315 Рік тому

      @@adam88099 Yes here in Oz we suffer from $$$$$$$ on all these SportsHatchs... Adelaide, Golf R is about $85,000, BMW i135 about $85,000+

    • @adam88099
      @adam88099 Рік тому

      @@swedishbob_7315 no doubt man. I'm hanging on to my Mk7.5. Still a flawless experience at stock and I'm loving it. I actually have zero need to upgrade. If I ever needed less incentive to upgrade the prices in Oz are putting me off even more. Along with the rent prices... Killing me.

  • @ThomasWilliams89
    @ThomasWilliams89 3 роки тому +1

    I can't decide which one I want.

  • @Televisiontechnology
    @Televisiontechnology 3 роки тому +2

    Bmw nicer inside and usability wise, bit more premium and a better ride. Im not driving on a track.

  • @maxmorris4562
    @maxmorris4562 3 роки тому +1

    I would go for the BMW, better handling

  • @dougmaverick4108
    @dougmaverick4108 Рік тому

    North Americans are lucky as they get the M8 Golf R with either a DSG or a proper manual transmission.
    I'm going for a manual.
    SaveTheManuals.

  • @Theurgicnick
    @Theurgicnick 2 роки тому +2

    Had a mk8 R on order since end of September/ beginning of October….. Had two build weeks wiped from system and now who knows when I’ll get one. Playing the waiting game but looking forward to the day it arrives none the less. Can’t wait 😝

  • @TeaVR
    @TeaVR 3 роки тому +2

    What’s with this sitting low thing? Cars like the NSX and McLaren F1 were designed to give great forward visibility. Why would you want to be so low that you can’t see over the steering wheel?

    • @jondonnelly3
      @jondonnelly3 3 роки тому

      Dunno, in short so a Golf is perfect, it's a problem i'll never have.

    • @joebloggs4191
      @joebloggs4191 3 роки тому

      He means sitting in the car rather than on it! I had the previous gen 1 series, I know what he means. That car felt like you were low to the ground and felt way more sporty, I have a Golf 7.5 now and you sit much higher, not the same feeling.

  • @slen6293
    @slen6293 3 роки тому

    Massive, bundles, LOADS, effortless, MASSIVE, huge, oodles, brilliant, massive, out of this world, effortless and MASSIVE… 😂😂😂 this guy is a thesaurus and Chandler Bing in a human

  • @kevinevans3237
    @kevinevans3237 2 роки тому +1

    Good test drive of the two cars. I’ve had a mk7 Vw gti for the last 6 years the drive and engineering is 2nd to none, but a very big but is what has put me of from owning another Vw gti or performance golf is on the back wheel arches I’ve started to see rust forming, I was really hoping the bmw would win , as I’ve lost confidence in the build quality of the Vw, which after 21000 miles is developing rust. Does the golf mk8 come with better quality body work?
    But the engineering of the Vw has been a good experience, do you think I will enjoy that sort of experience with the BMW 135i m sport?

  • @joebalabuszko8863
    @joebalabuszko8863 3 роки тому

    ps, the salesman at our vw dealer will be in touch when the r arrives. looking forward to the test drive. the good thing about temptation is, giving in.

  • @nahnatsnotme937
    @nahnatsnotme937 3 роки тому +1

    Watching this makes me miss my m140i😭

  • @benjamind2995
    @benjamind2995 3 роки тому +2

    the difference is bmw is 270 to lease and golf 350😎

  • @MarcraM82
    @MarcraM82 3 роки тому +2

    Why can't we get theses in manual anymore?

    • @toddstevens8506
      @toddstevens8506 3 роки тому

      Because fewer people want them and sometimes, like with the Golf R, the auto is better.

  • @Andy-zt7ng
    @Andy-zt7ng 3 роки тому +6

    Not a fan of either, Golf R is boring, no change whatsoever from previous Golfs, so typically predictable. As for the BMW, sorry but the 1 series is dead, I have a 2018 M140i, wouldn’t swap it for the world, it’s a drivers car, when you open it up for sure you have to be on your game but thats what makes it such a fun car to drive, 6 cylinder rear wheel drive every day of the week !!

  • @jermainerobinson7098
    @jermainerobinson7098 2 роки тому +2

    Great video straight to the point this guy should do top gear 👏🏾👊🏽👍🏾💯

  • @TorqueDriven
    @TorqueDriven 3 роки тому +3

    Yes subscribed🙌🇿🇦

  • @darknightbegins85
    @darknightbegins85 3 роки тому

    May trade by challenger 1320 in for new golf R in a year when it comes to the states. I’m not paying dealer markup, but the performance numbers and interior and usability and rarity of the R in the states drives the appeal to me

  • @helenbaylis6837
    @helenbaylis6837 3 роки тому

    The auto gearbox is terrible compared to the DSG. The gearbox is one of the main reasons I sold my Alfa Quadrifoglio. That had the stupid lunge on upshift unless it was in Efficient mode. Bought a Golf R 7.5

  • @dirkdesouza5975
    @dirkdesouza5975 Рік тому

    Fantastic review,,,, I bought the Golf R

  • @Golfr2020
    @Golfr2020 2 роки тому

    GOLF R every time. love driving mine

    • @Francloy1
      @Francloy1 2 роки тому

      Love both German engineering, prefer the Beemer, would love to race for fun.

  • @loganpadayachee6048
    @loganpadayachee6048 7 місяців тому

    VW manufactures the best hatchbacks period

  • @shauntompkins5061
    @shauntompkins5061 3 роки тому +2

    Which would I choose? I do use reviews as a base for my decisions - as I did when I bought my car - and I like the golf R and would choose it based on what I’ve seen - rated as the better car - but they’re ten a Penny, certainly around where I live and that’s enough to put me off actually choosing one. In theory though, it has to be the golf R.

    • @shauntompkins5061
      @shauntompkins5061 3 роки тому

      @@MT-kx2uc car value doesn’t really come into it - in the UK at least - as the deals in them are really good - You can lease a golf R for £300 a month. The mk8 doesn’t look different enough compared to the previous generations so I’d still be saying, ‘oh look, there’s another golf R.’ I actually wouldn’t have either of these cars; I’ll stick to my FK8 Type R

    • @Francloy1
      @Francloy1 2 роки тому

      Nah. Build quality the Beemer wins

    • @shauntompkins5061
      @shauntompkins5061 2 роки тому

      @@Francloy1 actually, I’d choose the bmw over the golf R too. I see too many of the golfs. And I think the bmw looks better.

  • @nindster
    @nindster 3 роки тому +2

    Would be interesting to see how much they cost “as tested”. I suspect the Golf was dangerously close to an AMG A45.
    Just ordered a Cupra Formentor 310; I prefer the looks to the Golf, it is much better equipped and I got a really good deal. I also found the service at Seat/Cupra dealers (and Ford and Audi) to be far better than my experience with VW but I might have been unlucky.

    • @krane15
      @krane15 2 роки тому

      As you know by now, that would be true for the A35. But the A45 is nowhere close to it costing thousands more.

  • @blue-ck9ns
    @blue-ck9ns 3 роки тому +1

    I have a mk7.5 Golf R. I like the new Golf R better than this M135i, but I don't like the interior of the new Golf R at all to be honest.

  • @vancehibberd1546
    @vancehibberd1546 3 роки тому +6

    Not a bad effort from BMW for their 1st 4 banger 4wd hot hatch. Be good to see what the facelift version is like in comparison to the latest Golf R. The M135i is a couple of year old now. I would probably go for the golf "now" but will be interested to see the difference once the LCi is released. Good review

    • @kidfreejones
      @kidfreejones 2 роки тому +1

      Me too. Golf R Mk8 just released here in Australia (supply is horrible though). But once LCi comes out be great to see how they compete and will decide after that :)

  • @augustinedennis4865
    @augustinedennis4865 3 роки тому

    Isn’t it encouraging to hear that the BMW May be catching up on the Golf R?

  • @ColeBiggs97
    @ColeBiggs97 3 роки тому +1

    I've just ordered the new golf r mk8 in that colour but I'm not sure I like it anymore

  • @waqasumat5831
    @waqasumat5831 Рік тому +1

    BMW 💋💋💋❤❤❤❤

  • @shanjanusman9974
    @shanjanusman9974 3 роки тому +1

    BMW for me

  • @stephen2649
    @stephen2649 3 роки тому

    Very good review..

  • @jankapan8893
    @jankapan8893 2 роки тому

    Its a shame you did not try the bmw launch control....

  • @davidhayes4814
    @davidhayes4814 3 роки тому +3

    Would the BMW be better compared with the S3, which it matches in almost all ways.

    • @Francloy1
      @Francloy1 2 роки тому

      Nah. Beemer beats that hands down

  • @stephengriffin4990
    @stephengriffin4990 3 роки тому +1

    R any day driving.

  • @gerardcolquhoun8963
    @gerardcolquhoun8963 3 роки тому +3

    Great video, I would love to see how the new MK8 Golf GTI holds up against the BMW 128Ti.
    If you got make that video happen that would be great because I'm in to minds of which one to buy.

    • @thet0ve
      @thet0ve 3 роки тому +1

      I went with the 128ti, it’s an awesome hatch! Came out of a mk7.5 Gti and a mk7 previous to that. The 128ti feels way more alive. I also tested a Mk8 and that cabin is awful

    • @gerardcolquhoun8963
      @gerardcolquhoun8963 3 роки тому

      @@thet0ve your right the interior of the mk 8 golfs is backwards and the quality just isn't there. The BMW has that in the bag but not keen on the red accents on the 128ti, would of liked a choice to get them in black so it doesn't matter what colour you go for

    • @thet0ve
      @thet0ve 3 роки тому

      @@gerardcolquhoun8963 you can get them in black bud. If you choose red or blue the car naturally comes with black accents, any other colour and you need to request it 👍
      Mine is the chavvy white with red accents, at first I wasn’t impressed but it’s grown in me massively and it’s immediately recognisable as a 128ti. If that matters to anyone of course

    • @gerardcolquhoun8963
      @gerardcolquhoun8963 3 роки тому

      @@thet0ve any sign of Remus doing a sports exhaust for it?

    • @thet0ve
      @thet0ve 3 роки тому

      @@gerardcolquhoun8963 I’ve asked Motech about this and they say it’s coming. The stock exhaust is pretty good when driven in, I get a load of pops and bangs in sport mode with the exhaust fully opened up. Remus would be amazing though 👍

  • @thomasfero8612
    @thomasfero8612 Рік тому +1

    I have BMW, all life choose BMW between this 2 cars!

  • @thezanzibarbarian5729
    @thezanzibarbarian5729 3 роки тому +1

    Whilst sitting low down may be better for track use, for driving on public roads, you need to be higher up for a better all round vision. Especially when that little kid runs out in front of you.
    Police - Why didn't you slow down or even stop?
    Lowsat driver - I didn't see the three year old because of the dashboard being too high.
    Police - .....!!??

    • @bootdoot7819
      @bootdoot7819 3 роки тому +2

      Haha.
      I think many people think sitting low equals sporty, even at the expense of being able to see.
      I think that sitting low is sporty only for a car that is low and offers low sight lines. Surely, for any given car, being able to see properly would give a better lap time than a 1 inch lower seat position.

  • @Countryguy5967
    @Countryguy5967 3 роки тому

    Honestly, I like the looks, and cabin, of the Mk7 and Mk7.5. The cost of the Mk7 will go down in the USA when the Mk8 hits the market. From what I've gathered. You can take the Mk8's diff, or even the Audi Quattro system, and put it in the older Golf Rs. Might be slightly pricey. But it's sure worth a close look

    • @wannabegolfin24-72
      @wannabegolfin24-72 2 роки тому +1

      One UA-camr priced it out at $7500-$10k...I'm drawing a blank on his name.

  • @blue-ck9ns
    @blue-ck9ns 3 роки тому +4

    Remember that your Golf R had 19" wheels, whereas the M135i had 18's. Also, the Golf R sits lower to the ground than the 135i. Those both will effect ride comfort. On a car that's meant to be sporty, I'd much rather have the bigger wheels & lower suspension of the Golf R than a little bit of extra comfort from the 135i.

  • @scottswanson8520
    @scottswanson8520 3 роки тому

    Stopped watching after hearing that DSG was only option in Golf R - the manual was the only reason I had an R on my short list. Thanks anyway.

  • @darrenwalters6339
    @darrenwalters6339 3 роки тому +3

    I’ve currently got a 2015 m135i lci. It’s now 6 years old and still better then the pair of them

    • @joebloggs4191
      @joebloggs4191 3 роки тому +1

      Keep it, it's going to be collectable as it's the last of a kind!

    • @darrenwalters6339
      @darrenwalters6339 3 роки тому

      @@joebloggs4191 totally agree mate, the m135i lci wasn’t around long before the m140i came along. Plus it’s a manual, and the N55 in the m135i I think sounds a lot better then the b58 in the m140i

    • @darrenwalters6339
      @darrenwalters6339 3 роки тому

      @Peter Williams I don’t no mate, 3ltr straight 6 sound and rear wheels drive, am taking that over a 4 cylinder all day.
      New golf R has 316bhp
      My 6 year old m135i has 326bhp
      Close but still lagging behind

    • @Mav86asian
      @Mav86asian 3 роки тому

      @@darrenwalters6339 Golf R does not have 316bhp LOL...upwards of 350 when fully run in

    • @darrenwalters6339
      @darrenwalters6339 3 роки тому

      @@Mav86asian as standard Vw say 316bhp
      As standard bmw said the m135i lci 326bhp
      Both cars will probably produce more, the n55 and b58 engines in the 135 and 140 are known to produce more power then stated
      Either way the m135i lci produces more power

  • @Demoaccount-i2k
    @Demoaccount-i2k 2 роки тому

    Remap + tcu tuning would solve the problem for bmw

  • @blackcatsarenopussies
    @blackcatsarenopussies 3 роки тому +1

    R with bmw interior/dashboard

  • @roblanger5546
    @roblanger5546 3 роки тому +1

    I love the Golf, but its not going to replace my M140i

  • @Mav86asian
    @Mav86asian 3 роки тому +1

    The Golf R is substantially faster than the M135i. Even the Tiguan R is faster than the M135i.

    • @seth1455
      @seth1455 3 роки тому

      When and how often would you use that extra speed ?

  • @DjNikGnashers
    @DjNikGnashers 3 роки тому +4

    M140i nothing else needs to be said.

    • @chrisjd1984
      @chrisjd1984 3 роки тому +1

      Apart from the bmw is not as good😋

    • @DjNikGnashers
      @DjNikGnashers 3 роки тому +1

      @@chrisjd1984 I like the Golf R. In fact I nearly bought one.
      I drove Golf R's, S3's, A35's, Civics, and an i30N (I worked at a Hyundai dealership at the time, so drove a few of them tbh).
      On a damp/wet twisty B road, the Golf R will be quicker.
      But even then, it lacks something which all of the other cars I mentioned lack too. FUN.
      I bought an M140i because it was the most fun, out of all of them.
      And to me, that is the most important thing, so to me the Golf is not as good, because it's boring.
      My remapped M140i is still cheaper to buy than a Golf R, even adding the cost of the remap in (411bhp/576nm), of the same age/mileage, yet it's much faster in a straight line, just as quick in the dry, and 100 times more fun being RWD.

  • @km4089
    @km4089 3 роки тому +4

    The only thing better on the bmw is the interior.
    Otherwise golf r hands down.

  • @Peter-lm3ic
    @Peter-lm3ic 3 роки тому

    It all depends what one wants in a car, a boy racer or an all rounder?

    • @krane15
      @krane15 3 роки тому +1

      I feel confident in saying his point is that you can now have both.

  • @mlz2368
    @mlz2368 Рік тому

    Chris Martin reviews bmw & Golf😊

  • @augustinedennis4865
    @augustinedennis4865 2 роки тому

    Golf R definitely,I’m on my fourth.R .BMW ,who make superb motor cars,almost as good as R, but not quite .Well done BMW.God loves a trier.Keep trying.

    • @ngc-fo5te
      @ngc-fo5te 2 роки тому

      Problem is you have to live with the cheap nastiness of the Golf day to day. It's 10K overpriced.