i saw Caravan at a little theatre in Whitehall PA called the Roxy Theatre. The highlight of the concert was The Love In Your Eye. I believe it was Geoffrey Richardson that played the electric viola during the crescendo of the song. The entire audience was mesmerized, stunned, and rocking. What a great concert.
I am from the Netherlands and had the privilege to be in my late teens early twenties in the time their first 4 albums got released. Until today I find their music still very actual and powerful. My favorite 2 albums are: if I could do it over again..... And Waterloo Lily because of their use of different styles but not losing their Caravan identity. I was relieved in the early eighties to find other very good music. That is another story
I'm pastoral, folky and dancing around a May pole most weekends in May Jim🤣👨🎤. I got into Caravan funnily enough whilst I was doing my degree in Canterbury...The Girls Who Go Plump....is my first and favourite... This Lp sounded great...I'd have it just below their two biggest albums...but still great...
Waterloo Lily is a seriously underated Caravan album due to the excellence of Land of Grey & Pink but also helped massively by the superb bass work of Richard Sinclair who would leave and go on to form Hatfield and the North. Definately check out Rotters Club by H&TN!
Caravan started as psychedelic 60's, morphed into Canterbury Prog-rock with Land of Pink & Grey and Waterloo Lily and then became more dixie southern rock, many changing phases of a very underrated band; excellent.
I bought all my Caravan albums in order. I saw them three times in the 70s. The original line up lasted for 3 albums. The album In the Land of Grey and Pink is considered to be the best. Waterloo Lily included Steve Miller on Keyboards and his jazz playing suited this album. Both Richard Sinclair bass and Richard Coughlin drums are superb. Sinclair had a very good singing voice and sang the lead on the title song. I've always loved this band but at the time there was a lot of good music coming out of England.
Richard Sinclair exited Caravan after this album to form Hatfield and the North. They are way more Prog and released 2 incredible albums. Hatfield and the North (1973) The Rotter’s Club(1974)
The Rotter's Club is on my hotlist "what obligatory stuff to take with me on an uninhabited island" together with Midnight Mushrumps by Gryphon, Revolver and Abbey Road by the Beatles, The Messiah by G.F. Händel with Karl Richter as conductor, Kind of Blue and L' ascenseur pour l'echafaud by Miles Davis, the Switch on Brandenburgs by Wendy Carlos and Liege and Lief by Fairport Convention.
Don't forget to give National Health a listen as you explore Canterbury...along with Soft Machine, Matching Mole, Hatfield and the North, Gong, Egg, Khan, etc....
Growing up in Margate I would go to Kennards Music shop in Canterbury and was offered a Guild 12 string previously owned by Geoffrey Richardson of Caravan but my budget didn't go to £800.
really enjoyed. thanks Wikipedia provides some background... I believe 2 founding members left after the critically acclaimed previous LP grey and pink...
The flute solo that you commented on was by Jimmy Hastings, who also appeared on “Fish Out Of Water.” Caravan had a string of really good albums. This one, maybe, gets ignored a little because it is sandwiched between their accepted masterpiece “In The Land of Grey and Pink,” and their biggest commercial success, “For Girls That Grow Plump In The Night.” I particularly like their second album, despite some dated production. And don’t miss out on “Blind Dog at St. Dunstans,” another one that catches some flak, but which I think is great!
Surprised to be loving this so much. Love the jazzy instrumentals which remind me of the funked up Camel on A Live Record. The naff whimsical lyrics have put me off previously. Golf Girl! Really?? So looking to get more funky jazzy, instrumental recommendations from the Canterbury scene... Anyone?
Had never heard of Caravan prior to seeing them at the 2nd (and sadly final) High Voltage festival in London (2011, blimey how time flies!) but I became an instant fan. I can't garner much excitement for the two albums they've released since then, but their 70s stuff is pure gold. That said I've still got 98% of the rest of the Canterbury Scene bands to explore, so will be curious to see (and follow) where you go next!
This album is a lot better than I remembered. I suspect the reason for it not getting the credit due is because the albums before and after it are absolutely sensational and tend to overshadow it.
The jazzy ethos that all of the Canterbury bands shared wasn't necessarily about embracing jazz harmony, but rather it was just "to have a good blow" and let the solos extend out farther than most other prog bands. That's the big unifying strand with all of these bands, to a lesser or greater degree.
I suspect the reason people don't look quite as fondly at this album is twofold: 1) Caravan's original keyboardist was replaced on this album with someone else who has a bit of a different sound, and 2) this album immediately followed Caravan's "In the Land of Grey and Pink" (which I'm sure you must have heard of by now) which is considered by many to be the pinnacle of the Canterbury scene and a microcosm of the whole Canterbury sound, so "Waterloo Lily" was probably overshadowed to some extent.
@Jim Newstead There is a live version of Love In your eye With an orchestra and a choir singing background It is on the caravan and n the new symphony album. It is freaky good you must check it out I almost like it better than the original.brother it was a joy to see the blood rush to your face once the music dropped 😁I'm sure the same thing happened to me also
This side is better than side one . Heard a bit of American Country style guitar licks . Similar to what Kenny Young the famous producer of Fox , Yellow dog sometimes employed on his Albums.
You should listen to Love in Your Eyes in the orchestrated live version on With the New Symphonia. Absolutely great. Reward yourself, listen to that album.
First song is more like the few Caravan albums I know; nice (pop-)rock song. Second song is lovely prog rock/ jazz rock. I prefer this side over the first one. Today I listened to the next album, Blind dog at St. Dunstan’s, and I can tell you that it is much more rock orientated, not jazzy at all, than side one of this album. I really liked it.
I just took a quick dip at minute eight, and dagnabbit Jamie, I am gunna hafta start at Side One and listen to the whole blasted thing...all because of you! Well...and them, of course. But don't you see? If you had foisted up some shite, I could then go about my day, earblind, granted without the charm of a new discovery, but at least I could, say, peregrinate the garden, peradventure, or saunter the verdant meadow. Shoe a few steeds along the way. But I will somehow find solace in my sacrifice. Good ear, mate. Canturbulary!
Caravan is really something special. Like Gentle Giant, Yes, Van der Graaf or King Crimson, they have a unique sound, and great moods. Really try In the Land of…
I really hope that you get round to reacting to "For Girls Who Grow Plump In The Night". My favourite Caravan album, in fact one of my all time favourite albums
The Love in Your Eye suite is fairly typical of Caravan's style at least for the first decade and, if you like that, then it's easy to proceed from there - Nine Feet Underground, For Richard, A Hunting We Shall Go and Dabsong Conshirtoe, all of which take sections of music and sew them together wonderfully to create a whole (The sort-of Supper's Ready approach) Even if there's a 2 minute stretch you're not so keen on, the next bit will be a killer. I promise.
I didn't get any Velvet Underground from this album but weirdly, Geoff Richardson joined the band on the next album - he and John Cale of the VU are the only two viola players that I can think of in the rock genre. Maybe you were picking up echoes from the future.
I don't know why people dismiss this album, I consider it as good as their two previous ones and slightly inferior to their masterpiece "For Girls Who Grow Plump in the Night". "The Love In Your Eye" suite is phenomenal...
Glad you liked the album but, as I said on my post for 'Part 1' you need to listen to 'In The Land Of Grey And Pink'. If you think that your mind has been blown with 'Waterloo Lily' then I suggest that you have a good lie down during the listening to this one!!
Id say alot of testosterone filled gents frown on this great band unfortunately due to the nature of their happy sound and lyrics and opt for the Prog with a capitol P of Yes and Crimson unsurprisingly...they were all great of course...I love their unique quirky take on that 70s phenomenal scene...
Well I hated Side 1 - too jazzy - but would buy it and just listen to this side if I could find one cheaply enough. It would have to be virtually free though. Big thumbs down from someone who usually likes Caravan.
I cant ever get bored with Waterloo Lily.... Unique & superb.
Richard is a wonderful Bassist and Jimmy is amazing on sax and flute
i saw Caravan at a little theatre in Whitehall PA called the Roxy Theatre. The highlight of the concert was The Love In Your Eye. I believe it was Geoffrey Richardson that played the electric viola during the crescendo of the song. The entire audience was mesmerized, stunned, and rocking. What a great concert.
I am from the Netherlands and had the privilege to be in my late teens early twenties in the time their first 4 albums got released. Until today I find their music still very actual and powerful. My favorite 2 albums are: if I could do it over again..... And Waterloo Lily because of their use of different styles but not losing their Caravan identity. I was relieved in the early eighties to find other very good music. That is another story
I'm pastoral, folky and dancing around a May pole most weekends in May Jim🤣👨🎤. I got into Caravan funnily enough whilst I was doing my degree in Canterbury...The Girls Who Go Plump....is my first and favourite...
This Lp sounded great...I'd have it just below their two biggest albums...but still great...
Waterloo Lily is a seriously underated Caravan album due to the excellence of Land of Grey & Pink but also helped massively by the superb bass work of Richard Sinclair who would leave and go on to form Hatfield and the North. Definately check out Rotters Club by H&TN!
Yes! brother!
Caravan started as psychedelic 60's, morphed into Canterbury Prog-rock with Land of Pink & Grey and Waterloo Lily and then became more dixie southern rock, many changing phases of a very underrated band; excellent.
I bought all my Caravan albums in order. I saw them three times in the 70s. The original line up lasted for 3 albums. The album In the Land of Grey and Pink is considered to be the best. Waterloo Lily included Steve Miller on Keyboards and his jazz playing suited this album. Both Richard Sinclair bass and Richard Coughlin drums are superb. Sinclair had a very good singing voice and sang the lead on the title song. I've always loved this band but at the time there was a lot of good music coming out of England.
Never heard this and will be enjoying this over the weekend. Thanks Jim..
Enjoy!
Richard Sinclair exited Caravan after this album to form Hatfield and the North. They are way more Prog and released 2 incredible albums.
Hatfield and the North (1973)
The Rotter’s Club(1974)
The Rotter's Club is on my hotlist "what obligatory stuff to take with me on an uninhabited island" together with Midnight Mushrumps by Gryphon, Revolver and Abbey Road by the Beatles, The Messiah by G.F. Händel with Karl Richter as conductor, Kind of Blue and L' ascenseur pour l'echafaud by Miles Davis, the Switch on Brandenburgs by Wendy Carlos and Liege and Lief by Fairport Convention.
I’m really glad I’ve discovered your channel, you’ve introduced me to so many new albums, I dig your vibe, keep up the great work 👍
Awesome, thank you!
Don't forget to give National Health a listen as you explore Canterbury...along with Soft Machine, Matching Mole, Hatfield and the North, Gong, Egg, Khan, etc....
And now ... Hat .. Field .. and the ... North!
Growing up in Margate I would go to Kennards Music shop in Canterbury and was offered a Guild 12 string previously owned by Geoffrey Richardson of Caravan but my budget didn't go to £800.
The love in your eye is by far the standout track on this album
really enjoyed. thanks
Wikipedia provides some background... I believe 2 founding members left after the critically acclaimed previous LP grey and pink...
The flute solo that you commented on was by Jimmy Hastings, who also appeared on “Fish Out Of Water.” Caravan had a string of really good albums. This one, maybe, gets ignored a little because it is sandwiched between their accepted masterpiece “In The Land of Grey and Pink,” and their biggest commercial success, “For Girls That Grow Plump In The Night.” I particularly like their second album, despite some dated production. And don’t miss out on “Blind Dog at St. Dunstans,” another one that catches some flak, but which I think is great!
Surprised to be loving this so much. Love the jazzy instrumentals which remind me of the funked up Camel on A Live Record.
The naff whimsical lyrics have put me off previously. Golf Girl! Really??
So looking to get more funky jazzy, instrumental recommendations from the Canterbury scene... Anyone?
I always overlooked this compared to other caravan albums but it’s actually pretty great
It’s amazing! But then, I haven’t heard their other records to compare this with.
What a dynamite album you have chosen here I've heard grey and pink especially love the b-sides great bands and I love for show
Had never heard of Caravan prior to seeing them at the 2nd (and sadly final) High Voltage festival in London (2011, blimey how time flies!) but I became an instant fan. I can't garner much excitement for the two albums they've released since then, but their 70s stuff is pure gold. That said I've still got 98% of the rest of the Canterbury Scene bands to explore, so will be curious to see (and follow) where you go next!
Loads more to discover I think!!!
Love that album
I have buy this album recently for only 5,99$. What an amazing album!
Bargain!
This album is a lot better than I remembered. I suspect the reason for it not getting the credit due is because the albums before and after it are absolutely sensational and tend to overshadow it.
The jazzy ethos that all of the Canterbury bands shared wasn't necessarily about embracing jazz harmony, but rather it was just "to have a good blow" and let the solos extend out farther than most other prog bands. That's the big unifying strand with all of these bands, to a lesser or greater degree.
I suspect the reason people don't look quite as fondly at this album is twofold: 1) Caravan's original keyboardist was replaced on this album with someone else who has a bit of a different sound, and 2) this album immediately followed Caravan's "In the Land of Grey and Pink" (which I'm sure you must have heard of by now) which is considered by many to be the pinnacle of the Canterbury scene and a microcosm of the whole Canterbury sound, so "Waterloo Lily" was probably overshadowed to some extent.
Love the show maybe now I have somebody to enjoy music with
@Jim Newstead
There is a live version of Love In your eye
With an orchestra and a choir singing background
It is on the caravan and n the new symphony album.
It is freaky good you must check it out I almost like it better than the original.brother it was a joy to see the blood rush to your face once the music dropped 😁I'm sure the same thing happened to me also
This side is better than side one . Heard a bit of American Country style guitar licks . Similar to what Kenny Young the famous producer of Fox , Yellow dog sometimes employed on his Albums.
You should listen to Love in Your Eyes in the orchestrated live version on With the New Symphonia. Absolutely great. Reward yourself, listen to that album.
Richard Sinclair went onto Camel who I saw in Canterbury you need to check out Rain Dances, Camel Live or Breathless.
First song is more like the few Caravan albums I know; nice (pop-)rock song.
Second song is lovely prog rock/ jazz rock. I prefer this side over the first one.
Today I listened to the next album, Blind dog at St. Dunstan’s, and I can tell you that it is much more rock orientated, not jazzy at all, than side one of this album. I really liked it.
I just took a quick dip at minute eight, and dagnabbit Jamie, I am gunna hafta start at Side One and listen to the whole blasted thing...all because of you! Well...and them, of course. But don't you see? If you had foisted up some shite, I could then go about my day, earblind, granted without the charm of a new discovery, but at least I could, say, peregrinate the garden, peradventure, or saunter the verdant meadow. Shoe a few steeds along the way. But I will somehow find solace in my sacrifice. Good ear, mate. Canturbulary!
Marvellous, I thought!
Caravan is really something special. Like Gentle Giant, Yes, Van der Graaf or King Crimson, they have a unique sound, and great moods. Really try In the Land of…
Reminds me of Soft Machine. You should do "Soft Machine - Cockayne" it is similar but has Alan Holdsworth :)
I really hope that you get round to reacting to "For Girls Who Grow Plump In The Night". My favourite Caravan album, in fact one of my all time favourite albums
I expect so.
For girls that that grow plump in the night is my favourite album of theirs as well
The Love in Your Eye suite is fairly typical of Caravan's style at least for the first decade and, if you like that, then it's easy to proceed from there - Nine Feet Underground, For Richard, A Hunting We Shall Go and Dabsong Conshirtoe, all of which take sections of music and sew them together wonderfully to create a whole (The sort-of Supper's Ready approach) Even if there's a 2 minute stretch you're not so keen on, the next bit will be a killer. I promise.
I didn't get any Velvet Underground from this album but weirdly, Geoff Richardson joined the band on the next album - he and John Cale of the VU are the only two viola players that I can think of in the rock genre. Maybe you were picking up echoes from the future.
I don't know why people dismiss this album, I consider it as good as their two previous ones and slightly inferior to their masterpiece "For Girls Who Grow Plump in the Night". "The Love In Your Eye" suite is phenomenal...
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My top three prog bands Yes Flower Kings and Caravan. Not in any order
Glad you liked the album but, as I said on my post for 'Part 1' you need to listen to 'In The Land Of Grey And Pink'. If you think that your mind has been blown with 'Waterloo Lily' then I suggest that you have a good lie down during the listening to this one!!
Id say alot of testosterone filled gents frown on this great band unfortunately due to the nature of their happy sound and lyrics and opt for the Prog with a capitol P of Yes and Crimson unsurprisingly...they were all great of course...I love their unique quirky take on that 70s phenomenal scene...
I’m all about the quirky!
Well I hated Side 1 - too jazzy - but would buy it and just listen to this side if I could find one cheaply enough. It would have to be virtually free though. Big thumbs down from someone who usually likes Caravan.
Great album and band, huh Jim. A lot of these guys also spent time in Camel.
A lot of these old 70s prog band members were fairly promiscuous!
@@JimNewstead Don't understand what you mean by "promiscuous". Not sexual or indiscriminate.
@@billnole2188 as in they weren’t “faithful” to their original bands, and “played away” a lot!!!