Just what do we have to do before taking the fire engine out?
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- Опубліковано 2 жов 2024
- Hello everyone,
Have you ever wondered about owning a fire engine - just what do you have to do every time before you venture out onto the roads?
Today Tom and Lawrie chat about getting Jupes ready, and take it for a spin.
A video featuring:
Lawrie - Presenter, happy to take the truck out,
Tom - Presenter, eager to go for a drive.
An edit by Lawrie.
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“I used to drive Lawries about”
Good god, how many of you are out there?
Well there's Loz and Larry on the channel already!
The drone filming is great
In the US these are called 'pre-trip' and 'post-trip' inspections and are supposed to be done at the beginning and end of every trip. Requirement for every type of commercial vehicle, regardless of type.
well, in the time you took to get this fine piece of machinery running, i have bought a fire engine of my own, a dodge-pirsch class 500 fire engine of 1943.
if mine is restored in 2 years, i'll be over the moon
So basically you have to give it a full MOT every day before taking her out for a run!
Professional HGV drivers are ment to do this Daily.
nope , standard HGV daily checks
The shear fuming, green envy of Lawrie not having his bendy thing HGV license !!!
Nice to see more of own personal collection operating/prior to operating
So does this mean you're bringing Jupiter to see the Marlin soon? 😊
I use a Steering Wheel Lock Bar between seat and brake pedal to test brake lights. At work Used to do van check everyday find a fault with lights or windscreen wipers Go to yard workshop to tell them and it was fixed before i finish the paperwork about the fault. LMM thanks for another good video👍
Little tip if your on your own to check brake lights1. Back it up to a wall and check for the light reflection on the wall,2 use your mobile in video mode placed behind Jupes press the brake pedal then play back your video or 3 get a prop to wedge between your seat base and depressed brake pedal,obviously with the ignition on. Hope that's a handy tip. With a C class LGV licence without going into special types with multiple axles , you can drive a 4 axle rigid grossing 32 tonnes.
I miss the work in the shed 😢
Always gets me that even driving busses that are the same weight and longer than Jupiter legally I can't, strange system we have in the UK
Great video , you missed one thing on the walk round check, are the Locker covers secure ? just as important as the wheel nuts ect
In the U.S. this License is a basic "CDL" (Commercial Driver's License) required to Drive a vehicle GVWR > 26,000 pounds. Other CDL classes allow to drive more types like Semis and HAZMAT trucks that have more rules to get. Is also why U-haul truck rental and some other larger trucks have (paraphrased) "this vehicle under 26,000 lb" printed on the sides because allow normal Class D license and avoid some other issues.
Going further? Is this Prep for a Lands End to John o' Groats Run??
You should do some drain clearing with your MF40 digger
Or any other digger work
Our dennis D series needed at least 200 gallons in the tank before it was driveable.... with an empty tank it was a little bit squirly.
I find Jupes is less pleasant to drive loaded with water
@@lmm when we had an F8 it was horrible with a full tank sluggish and slap happy (somehow at the same time) but the 2 Ds both needed at least half a tank to be have properly otherwise they just shook everywhere and the back ends would slide at the drop of a hat.
@@Savagetechie oh really? That's interesting
@@lmm terrifying the extra 140hp on top of the F8 made them absolute pullers but when 1 went to scrap the engine went to a hill climb monster.
...... Where it was blown and had some cam work.... It was never dynoed in race form but easy 300 bhp. Love your channel dude wasn't expecting the interaction. Also the box on the d series.... Was super close I ripped every bit of linkage out for racecar and then hit the mill. It took 5 attempts
@@lmm also reading my own comments I suddenly realised I've had A very very fire engine heavy life.... My dad has had 5 I've had 2. Between us 5 have been on active duty under private ownership, 2 have been scabs (not proud but green goddess couldn't pump for shit) and 1 had a Stealth conversion turning the tank into sleeping quarters
Hi Guys love the video. Well I'm going to put that forward to my transport manager as part my five year CPC module. Past my test on a DAF 2800 in 1988 as part of my apprenticeship as a mechanic. in those days you could go straight onto Class 1 HGV(LGV C+E). One thing to say is that myself and other drivers would like to see is recently past test car drivers do a two day course on commercial vehicles as a passengers so they realise how different a commercial vehicle is to a car.
What about other Fire engine 🚒 tuck away at back of barn of doom
Trailers and towing vehicles should also be checked regularly prior any journey as well as people do forget this and neglect the maintenance and then end up getting in trouble with vosa or the police. I found that out when we borrowed someone's trailer last year who assured us it was road legal. Lets say most of the tyres were bald on the inside edge.
The amount of caravans I see with blown/flat tyres is ridiculous. Been sat for 9 months and folk just hook them up and away they go,.
@richardjames3356 exactly. They are also a trailer. I also can never understand how the truck based horse boxes are road legal either. Some I see are in terrible condition.
Great series idea; maybe go coast to coast with Jupiter? Take Jupes across the channel?
That would be amazing. Bring on the road trip
Hi both. What are the regulations with preserved fire engines to do with blues and twos. Only on private land i guess. caroline
Yeah can only use lights and sirens on private land really.
That goes with any emergency vehicle.
though some events do allow bit of use.
when I check my brake lights, I would jam the cab tilt bar down onto the brake pedal with the ignition on
With all these so called legal daily checks, why is it the motorways are littered with hundreds of hgv tyre carcasses! Every one a potential accident cause to other vehicles
There are 2 causes, at least here in the US: Drivers aren't as diligent in the pre-trip inspection as they should be, and a lot of trucks use recapped tires, and they fail without warning.
Bit odd but I was just watching the Yorkshire steam railway which is obviously filmed in the North Yorkshire moors railway were you figured in it as one of the photographers in season 2 episode 5 because I swear it was you
Yep that's me. Chasing dinosaurs episode 2 is that episode
I think you need to be getting red the other fire engine and get it back on the road again
Good video on channel keep up to good video thanks lee
I recall being on a transit bus which did not have these check done well. The bus stopped at a traffic light. One wheel just kept rolling through the intersection. My brother is a long haul trucker. One really wants things right and tight when the vehicle weighs near 40 tons and be going 100 Kph around 60 Mph. It can do more when going downhill. My brother drives all over the country, including passes high enough they cannot haul ice cream there. The air locked in the ice cream would explode opening up the tractor trailer. Those Rocky Mountain passes are something else.
1:04 Dread to think how much the wrecker cost.
How do you get on without having any convex mirrors? I'd be lost without them (checking blind spot and merging sliproads etc)
As a CDL Driver in the US, The Pre-Trip Walkaround/Inspection is a process. But a necessary one!
Currently watching this laid in the bunk at Love's in Lee, FL.
@richardjames3356
Stay safe out there Driver.
"Oi, chyw got a loisense foh dat?" "Yes. Constable, I do right here! Class C License!"
One of those tyres going "bang" is likely to lead to a "clean underwear, please" situation for anyone nearby - and the driver, too.
"Just what do you have to do every time before you venture out onto the roads" ... Figure out it is broken again.
i know in your show you have also other fire engine? how is that project going? because that is also different fire engine.
looks like the coolant take could do with a flush out looks a bit dirty
Lawrie the lorry driver. Are we in a children's book?
Glad to see at least one of the big red machines in the shed is running well!
G is roller.
Obviously you shouldnt do it right before every drive if its s fire engine in active service.
And at least in my experience of volunteer departments nobody really checks them regularly. Except when they go for their safety twice a year. Something i hate to see.
Has jupes already gotten air dryers? Or do you have to manually emoty the tanks?
Even if they have dryers, many tanks still have the nipples, so it wouldnt hurt doing it from time to time.
You mention that for working on the engine, you can pop the roof off and lift the engine clean out through the cab. Does it not have a cab tilt?
It does not
@lmm that's rather unhelpful! It might be something you can retro fit. Renault, Iveco and MAN all do tipping crew cabs. I've worked on Isuzu crew cab trucks, and they've got the hinge and locking system of a day cab, then a fixed mount at the very back of the cab. None of the hydraulics for tipping fitted though. To get them to tip, you had to remove the rear mount, manually release the centre ne and then lift the cab with a hoist.
If yours has hinged front mounts, it could be a fun project to go to a truck breaker and see if you can get hold of thr bits needed to make it tip. I know you're running quite low on projects at the moment 😆
@@nathanlucas6465 no, it cannot be done
@@lmm that's a shame. It really would make maintenance so much easier!
This was interesting to me, as I'm doing my Cat C at the moment! One question though, as Jupes is classed as an HGV, do you still have to adhere to HGV driving rules, such as having to break for 45 mins after 4 1/2 hours driving? Do you have to use a tacho? Just interested, as even though it isn't a commercial vehicle, as you stated in the video the dangers are the same!
No, Tacho is only it you're driving commercially. But, when I drove Redruth home from Redruth I followed the tacho rules and had a 45 min break after 4 and a half hours
does the pump on jupiter still work
Put out a fire with Jupes.
It feels ironic to say that it all went well while it's smoking up a storm
We'd just restarted it to film the outtro.
By that point she was stone cold again.
Are you going to fire and steam at ramsey
Yes to seeing things working! Very much agree with the daily inspection and here's to more good adventures.
Sorry but unless you are driving it for commercial or hire or reward, you need none of that and can drive it as a regular vehicle, just like you don't need to do 6 week inspections.
The rules and regs are a headache, but has some odd advantages, like you can technically drive an arctic on a c1 licence, only if you disable the 5th wheel and under 7.5 ton
It would be irresponsible to not do the checks regardless of legal requirement.
What happens to the other fire engine?
Still sat somewhere in the back of the shed it seems.
Do you need a permanent place for one of your rustons
I really do 😂
@@lmm small line, and I don’t think they have a shed but East Kent Railway is a good place
As the Lorry is a W plate and thus over 40 years old does it qualify for Tax and MOT exemption?
Tax yes, HGV No. That's 1960 and older are exempt.
@@lmm Intresting there was a 1969 Peterbilt in colchester exempt everything according to the owner.
@@thecrocandsweepshow611 if its over 3.5 tonnes the 40 year mot exemption does not count
fire engines have never needed MOTs as they are special purpose vehicals, you can also drive them on a car licence.
@@Savagetechie you very definitely cannot drive a fire engine on a car licence.
It is not exempt from annual exam if it is not solely used for fire fighting or salvage.
Class 2 LGV 8 wheels & 32 ton?
From gov.uk:
Category C
You can drive vehicles over 3,500kg with a trailer up to 750kg maximum authorised mass (MAM).
Basically any truck that doesn't bend. As I understand it, back when licenses were class1 or class2 rather than c or c+e, a class 2 license had a weight limit, but would let you tow a drawbar trailer (wagon+drag) but the license categories were simplified a few years ago when they were trying to tempt more people into HGV driving.
Lawrie does his C+E training would be a good mini series. That would then nicely lead onto Lawrie buys a wrecker to do his own recoveries 😁
big truck without the trailer.