Time to finally lay the old washing machine to rest, with the help of my isolation transformer, variac and modified welder. Those Hoover motors are tough cookies!
That was a good quality motor. No problems with 460 Volts for a long time. Even with the commutator bars glowing red hot and water cooling. It kept going strong for a very long time. Excellent video. Please make more. Great with the Ammeter and voltmeter in display.
There was an 8kVA isolation transformer sitting between the incoming mains supply and the supply to the variac, welder and washing machine. I could've touched either wire feeding the motor. But not both at once. Without the isolation transformer I couldn't have hosed the motor with the power on as the garage is fed by an RCD-protected supply, any more than 30mA leaking to earth and it would've tripped out in 20 milliseconds. I tripped the 32A MCB twice, though :)
Serves Maplin right for effectively saying I was full of shit, when in fact the batteries in their jumpstarters were. That's what got me started properly on YT, so every cloud has a silver lining (or in Maplin's case a cheap, silver-effect polyester lining).
haha that was a very informative video the contact plate for the brushes was getting red hot i thought the belt was going to snap when the motor cranked up to 430v i wonder if there is a hardy enough rev counter to clock that fly wheel im sure it must have been insane as my washer does 1600rpm with 7kg of materials inside :D
YES YES, & MORE YES !!!! :-D I've always wanted to see a washer motor overcranked in-situ to see if it could spin-up the drum to ridiculous speeds. :-D My goodness, that motor sure took a beating, & you also got flames at a few points during the torture. *WIN* The commutator lit up like a fireglow lightbulb, & it had a massive smoke-out at the end. By the sound of things, the motor also threw a few com bars. :-D Nice long torturous burn out. Thanks for loading. -BoomBoxDeluxe.
There's a thermal cutout built into the motor. I had a fuse in the plug going to the welder (13A) and another fuse in the variac's output socket strip it was plugged into (another 13A). The variac's breakered at 20A and the isolation transformer feeding that's breakered at 32A.
Spent 5 years as a technician in the workshops for one of the top white goods companies, heard the types of sound track from many different failed motors in this one video as the motor got ever closer to destruction.
True transformer so to speak, runs via induction only with no connection between primary or secondary. They are used to "Isolate" the circuit from the main so that no nasty shocks or votage hazards from an accidental live between ground or earth connections. Thats what I think anyways.
I was waiting for the drum to explode, from centripetal force. I think the first failure, was throwing a commutator segment. That last camera angle would have been good when it was running at high speed. The data shows about an 11:1 ratio between the drum pulley, and motor pulley, allowing for some belt slip. The writing suggests, that there was no drum, when you said that the drum sheared off. I may have GOTTEN my drum explosion!! 32,137 RPM is about the operating speed of a 2-stage vacuum cleaner motor. If there was a way to blow compressed air on the commutator, it might have held that speed all day. What I think happened, the commutator got hot, and burned the former. That's when the segment got loose. Fun video!
Haha ;) thanks for the reply. This is like Photonicinduction mixed with Science... well, a little bit. I like the meters so you can see what's happening. Watched a few of your vids, they're just very informative with some little jokes on the side. The vid about the battery in the maplin jumperpack I found most interesting too.
Wish I'd taken it out and put it inside the drum housing, that way (a) it would've sounded awesome and (b) I'd have spotted the thermal cutout in line with the rotor :)
After watching this video i feel proud that I'm having this motor with me i will not kill it i will better utilized it I love my motor and it sound like jet.This Washing machine motor is with me right now.
you beat me to saying about a thermal cutout - reackon we would of had flames from the stator if not for that cut-out. Nice kill - long and painfull, just the way we like 'em!!
We have had similar problem with a washer. From the centrifugal force inside the motor, the coils bend outwards, shorting them out ato th motor housing, tripping the rcd. It only happend at max. speed.
poor little thing, it would have been a really good air compresor motor. :( anyways....i still cant believe does little wires withstood 14 amps without melting before the motor died. Maybe it's the camera but they look like 1mm to me from here.
Not stupid at all. If you don't ask, you don't learn! An isolation transformer has no electrical connection between primary and secondary coils, and doesn't necessarily have a 1:1 turns ratio (for example UK building site transformers are step-down isolation transformers). An autotransformer, on the other hand, has just one winding (per phase) with at least three connections, with no isolation between the input and output. More info on Wikipedia, look up "transformer types".
I suppose I could've used my 110v tool transformer to take the supply to 580 volts, then lifted the whole lot by the 240v raw mains supply to get 720 volts, then run the lot through a bridge rectifier to get about 1kV DC, but then I couldn't have used the hose :)
L'alimentation électrique passe dans un transformateur variable 0-270V (variac). Cela alimente l'entrée 230V d'une soudeuse à arc 230 / 400V modifiée, l'entrée 400V est ensuite utilisée comme sortie pour entraîner le moteur.
Inquiring minds wanted to know... curiosity might have killed this cat. Thanks for posting. Aintbigaintclever, but clever enough - ru an electrical engineer?
eBay item 260743046407 appears to be the same motor, there's info stamped on that one, including a part number that matches that in the AE130's service manual. HOOVER-55 91212324 V220-240 50Hz CI=F
220-240 volts. Overvolted here by using the dual-voltage primary of a 230/400V arc welder as a step-up autotransformer. Overvolted further by feeding the welder from a variac, which goes up to 270 volts.
Boring...you need to change the frequency...increase it until it explodes....a motor running at 120 VAC 60 Hz will run the same speed at 480 VAC 60 Hz...
This video literally disproves your statement. The motor is varying its speed with the incoming voltage. You can hear it. You can see it on the meter. *induction* motors are locked to the supply frequency. *universal* motors are not, which means they can also run on DC.
That was a good quality motor. No problems with 460 Volts for a long time.
Even with the commutator bars glowing red hot and water cooling. It kept going strong for a very long time.
Excellent video. Please make more.
Great with the Ammeter and voltmeter in display.
Wow, motor was 13 years old but could still put up with that torture.... props to Hoover.
And that's how you make your laundry in 2 minutes.
But you can start a campfire when you washing your clothes like that
Without a dryer
that was one tough motor!, didn't seem to mind screaming along on 460V at the start
Loving the sound of the bearings starting to whine at about 300 volts. I can't believe it lasted as long as it did! Great vid as ever.
There was an 8kVA isolation transformer sitting between the incoming mains supply and the supply to the variac, welder and washing machine. I could've touched either wire feeding the motor. But not both at once.
Without the isolation transformer I couldn't have hosed the motor with the power on as the garage is fed by an RCD-protected supply, any more than 30mA leaking to earth and it would've tripped out in 20 milliseconds.
I tripped the 32A MCB twice, though :)
Serves Maplin right for effectively saying I was full of shit, when in fact the batteries in their jumpstarters were. That's what got me started properly on YT, so every cloud has a silver lining (or in Maplin's case a cheap, silver-effect polyester lining).
i thought i was watching PHOTONICINDUCTION!~!!!!
This motor is definitely tough operating at 460 volts for so long.
This is what i call "trurbo spin cycle."
haha that was a very informative video the contact plate for the brushes was getting red hot i thought the belt was going to snap when the motor cranked up to 430v i wonder if there is a hardy enough rev counter to clock that fly wheel im sure it must have been insane as my washer does 1600rpm with 7kg of materials inside :D
Warning be sure that input voltage matches washer nameplate voltage or damage to your machine could result
lmfao
The point is to blow the motor to bits.
The door glass is still used as a dinner bowl on Friday Night Curry Night :D
YES YES, & MORE YES !!!! :-D
I've always wanted to see a washer motor overcranked in-situ to see if it could spin-up the drum to ridiculous speeds. :-D
My goodness, that motor sure took a beating, & you also got flames at a few points during the torture. *WIN*
The commutator lit up like a fireglow lightbulb, & it had a massive smoke-out at the end. By the sound of things, the motor also threw a few com bars. :-D
Nice long torturous burn out.
Thanks for loading.
-BoomBoxDeluxe.
There's a thermal cutout built into the motor. I had a fuse in the plug going to the welder (13A) and another fuse in the variac's output socket strip it was plugged into (another 13A). The variac's breakered at 20A and the isolation transformer feeding that's breakered at 32A.
This would dry your clothes in 3 seconds
The on-screen meters are very cool :) Great vid.
The brushes probably wore down… epic video, motor did well to last that long!
Spent 5 years as a technician in the workshops for one of the top white goods companies, heard the types of sound track from many different failed motors in this one video as the motor got ever closer to destruction.
One tough motor. Pretty cool light show too
True transformer so to speak, runs via induction only with no connection between primary or secondary. They are used to "Isolate" the circuit from the main so that no nasty shocks or votage hazards from an accidental live between ground or earth connections. Thats what I think anyways.
I was waiting for the drum to explode, from centripetal force. I think the first failure, was throwing a commutator segment. That last camera angle would have been good when it was running at high speed. The data shows about an 11:1 ratio between the drum pulley, and motor pulley, allowing for some belt slip. The writing suggests, that there was no drum, when you said that the drum sheared off. I may have GOTTEN my drum explosion!! 32,137 RPM is about the operating speed of a 2-stage vacuum cleaner motor. If there was a way to blow compressed air on the commutator, it might have held that speed all day. What I think happened, the commutator got hot, and burned the former. That's when the segment got loose. Fun video!
Surprisingly it didn't throw any bars, the rough sound is melted plastic, there must've been some sort of covering over the windings.
Hit 461 volts (the variac can put out up to 270 volts and the welder was stepping it up). It's all on the meter in the corner :)
Haha ;) thanks for the reply.
This is like Photonicinduction mixed with Science... well, a little bit.
I like the meters so you can see what's happening.
Watched a few of your vids, they're just very informative with some little jokes on the side.
The vid about the battery in the maplin jumperpack I found most interesting too.
It's a rebadged LEM Analyst 3QC three-phase power quality analyser.
Very good quality motor, I think it needs more power!!
Mr motor didn't want to die!
Pikeys took the shell, I've still got the drum.
Oh, and I think the cable going to the motor had a 13A fuse as well.
Geeeez! This was the toughest motor in the world!
I'll be keeping an eye out now :)
"I want moreeee. More power! Where's my ammer" lol. I wanted flames.
Good motor!
My mom: Do your laundry *fast*
Me:
Wish I'd taken it out and put it inside the drum housing, that way (a) it would've sounded awesome and (b) I'd have spotted the thermal cutout in line with the rotor :)
that commutator must have been wicked hot
WoW thats pretty tought one!
After watching this video i feel proud that I'm having this motor with me i will not kill it i will better utilized it I love my motor and it sound like jet.This Washing machine motor is with me right now.
one hardcore motor.
Spot on.
Now thats what I call a turbo spin!
3:05 washer motor. I give up I cant take no more :D lmfao
you beat me to saying about a thermal cutout - reackon we would of had flames from the stator if not for that cut-out. Nice kill - long and painfull, just the way we like 'em!!
There's no information stamped or plated on the motor, but I assume it was made by Hoover themselves. It's a fair old lump though, weighs about 6Kg.
totally hell of a ride
We have had similar problem with a washer. From the centrifugal force inside the motor, the coils bend outwards, shorting them out ato th motor housing, tripping the rcd. It only happend at max. speed.
poor little thing, it would have been a really good air compresor motor. :(
anyways....i still cant believe does little wires withstood 14 amps without melting before the motor died. Maybe it's the camera but they look like 1mm to me from here.
Extreme spincycle! LOL
Imagine if whashing Machines woudl spin the THAT Fast my whasher woudl me shaking And shiting itself😂
Not stupid at all. If you don't ask, you don't learn!
An isolation transformer has no electrical connection between primary and secondary coils, and doesn't necessarily have a 1:1 turns ratio (for example UK building site transformers are step-down isolation transformers). An autotransformer, on the other hand, has just one winding (per phase) with at least three connections, with no isolation between the input and output.
More info on Wikipedia, look up "transformer types".
around 10:20 sounds like an idling motorcycle engine.
I'm suprised that motor held up to that as long as it did.
I suppose I could've used my 110v tool transformer to take the supply to 580 volts, then lifted the whole lot by the 240v raw mains supply to get 720 volts, then run the lot through a bridge rectifier to get about 1kV DC, but then I couldn't have used the hose :)
What washing machine brand was ghat. Edit: never mind I read the desc
mmm fryed washing machine smells nice lol
I went out with a very long and loud bang and didn't die easy
Motor: AAAAAA HELP I’M DYING
Washing machine become Lamborghini!!!!!! 🏎️
No, an IT engineer. Electrical stuff is a hobby.
which components do you use to control this engine?
3:06 think I heard a com explosion
Sounds like a siren
hopefully you won't have to wait long to find another washing machine.
admit it, nothing you get is about how well it breaks :3
would u make one with a vacumm cleaner
I'm trying to burn my ceiling fan motor on 240volts household supply but not possible plzz help me with this
I can't remember. The thermal cutout kept tripping in, but I think the brushes gave up in the end.
Faster Lamborghini then washing machine
'tis but a scratch!
Any faster and the afterburner will kick in.
how it's working on?
Where is problum in this case ?
COMMENT FAITES VOUS POUR VARIER LA VITESSE DU MOTEUR ET COMMENT PEUT IL SUPPORTER UNE TELLE TENSION DE 460 V
L'alimentation électrique passe dans un transformateur variable 0-270V (variac). Cela alimente l'entrée 230V d'une soudeuse à arc 230 / 400V modifiée, l'entrée 400V est ensuite utilisée comme sortie pour entraîner le moteur.
Washing machine always Belt drive Saying AAAAAAAAA
Now this type of fault..... where component need to replace ????
oops motor didn't like that lol hahaha but it must make ur clothes extra dry from the speed of that motor
Please be careful, you could get shocked or trip the CB when spraying water on the motor :(
Inquiring minds wanted to know... curiosity might have killed this cat. Thanks for posting.
Aintbigaintclever, but clever enough - ru an electrical engineer?
How did the motor survive that torture for so long?
Do something like that again but throw something a little but heave inside
Of minę spun that gastronomia my clothes soulu code PIT dry
eBay item 260743046407 appears to be the same motor, there's info stamped on that one, including a part number that matches that in the AE130's service manual.
HOOVER-55 91212324
V220-240 50Hz CI=F
Watercooling. Your doing it wrong. Lol.
3:05 going, going, gone! laters lol :D
How many volts was the motor originally supposed to run on?
220-240 volts.
Overvolted here by using the dual-voltage primary of a 230/400V arc welder as a step-up autotransformer. Overvolted further by feeding the welder from a variac, which goes up to 270 volts.
Perhaps I should rename the video "Washing THE machine motor at 260 volts" :)
LMAO!!!!
-BoomBoxDeluxe.
Now, put clothing in there and make a full cycle
Plz reply soon
Smoke and fire makes all motors work and once you release them that motor won't work no more
Helo
I mean come out dry my keyboard is fucked up
the machine smoking and it's ok
he's broke
U could’ve scrapped before burnout
It got dismantled and mostly scrapped after burnout. Still got the plastic drum (and the door glass is used as a food bowl).
Haha a food bowl is smart. And I thought the copper windings would be burnt
The motor running at 10,500rpm!!! Don't do that otherwise the carbon brushes would wear out.
it went to 32k
Boring...you need to change the frequency...increase it until it explodes....a motor running at 120 VAC 60 Hz will run the same speed at 480 VAC 60 Hz...
This video literally disproves your statement. The motor is varying its speed with the incoming voltage. You can hear it. You can see it on the meter.
*induction* motors are locked to the supply frequency. *universal* motors are not, which means they can also run on DC.