Well, the definition of "operational" is quite different. For a museum anything moving on its own is "operational" whereas in the military you're out as soon as one indicator isn't working properly. At least in peace times. When at war most of the stuff we call broken today would be out in the battle fields just fine.
@@brag0001 i can only hope you are right. i know "from a friend" an incident where a german recon plane (a german version of awacs) had a replaced tail made from wood. Thats the condition our military is in. helicopters dont fly, submarines have no parts for routine maintencane... frigates are beeing recalled for whatever reason... i am not sure how we do it, but we are active in multiple missions since decades... despite all those flaws. The latest joke is that the german "air force one" plane from the luftwaffe had to emergency land , and our mama merkel continued her trip aboard a regular flight. You can say what you will, she is a pragmatic woman - and her ego took no damage there. (imagine how trump would react if he had to book a normal flight like us mortals) Lets just hope for continued peace, and that our guns never need to be tested against an adversary that pumps most of its cash into the military. (i.e. russia)
I'm Canadian and feel about the same! I still think the German military is much better equipped than the Canadian military. When I was in, everything was held together with duct-tape and paint. I had visited this museum around 1984 during artillery gun camp in the area, much larger now.
@@kanes5105 I (very briefly) looked that up and you might be right actually. We have double the numbers and double the budget, also on Global FIrepower (dont know if thats very accurate though) Canada is on the 25th place, Germany is on rank 10. But trust me, the scandals around our military are very numerous and embarrasing. We had guns not firing straight, the readiness state of our air force and everything that flies is atrocious. For example there was an incident about a certain type of marine (!) helicopter that was not allowed to fly over salt water because it turned out some parts couldnt withstand salt .. Then we got 6 submarines, technically advanced BUT only 2 of them were ready for combat and the story goes on and on. My own conclusion or what I always say is:"The Bundeswehr is being administered, its not being led." Anyway, greetings to your very nice country from a currently snowstruck Germany, have a great day :)
Nice tour, thanks. We can add some details, if we may. 01:13 That is a "Krupp-Protze" (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krupp_Protze) 01:39 Sad indeed, but working on it. Aiming for 2020. 02:25 We break the MYTHS, we're not crushing their souls. Or not intentionally, at least. ;) 05:47 "K-rad"? 07:47 37mm was removed, because the Germans used it for Border control in the BGS. There should be an MG, though. 07:55 Only in trials, but htese trials were held in Munster, so ... 08:56 Again, only in trials. 11:11 Our refueller doesn't look like one because it isn't one. It's our standard 5t with a decontamination kit. 13:07 The radar gives it away as a BRM-1K which makes it kind of special: Only 15 were used in East Germany. 13:18 That is an A1 - the only one left. 14:30 Quite the opposite: Although EVERYthing was available back then, the contemporaries were to heady with Cold War victory and failed to secure the stuff. Our East German materiel is few in numbers and in rather mediocre shape. 20:18 ua-cam.com/video/Leibs_zOPaY/v-deo.html 20:43 The lower hull of the M-48 proved to have excellent characteristics against mine explosions.
The Sd Kfz 2 is known by the nickname Kettenkrad and has been known to be shortened to Krad. Not to sure if "Krad" is official military lingo, but I have heard it used in the wargaming community before. Though I've never heard it be pronounced as 'k-rad' before. (maybe because I'm used to text and have may have just been miss reading it as such. I've also seen a joke name calling them the Kittenkrad, or Kitten by some wargamers (since later panzer are known as the big cats)
EndlesNights Technically saying "Krad" is too short because it is a short form of another word itself, the word "Kraftrad", basically translating to Motorcycle. The famous Wehrmacht motorbikes with sidecart would also be called a "Krad", as well as every other motorcycle. It is kind of an old term and not really used in common language anymore (being replaced by "Motorrad") but it can still be found in the traffic code and driving licence related stuff.
I was lucky enough to see inside the A7V replica a few years ago. It's not just a replica- it's a German made one. It's almost down to every bolt and nut a real one inside and out. Not just a pretty shell
Ah, Munster. Been stationed there doing basic training with the Panzergrenadiers. It's a raunchy little place...lot's of military history, having 3(used to be 4) barracks almost entirely devoted to all things tank combat, a giant training field, artillery firing range and lot's of soldiers, the place kind of evolved around it. Seedy bars, NATO-shops and brothels... In fact, when we were introduced to the Barracks one of the stops was a piece of fence next to a road outside the barracks grounds, he stopped, turn left, Feldwebel was talking, and then told us to turn around. "And there is where you can blow off some steam...on leave, of course." across the road was a Brothel...it was just there
i was one of the kids. we had a caravan in the area.. my favorite fun was do search the tank training (truppenuebungsplatz) areal for lost camonets and ammobelts....or to take trips in the railway cars next to that tank-loading-ramp - just release the brakes and have a trip... i am sure we were better recon people than the army ever had, only once have we been forced to drop to ground behind a bunker... we got away ... we always did :) once i found a comm-cable in "my forest" ... i could use it, i think i stole like 30 meters from an active connection. did not take long for some jeep to drive along the road in order to find the fault, but hey.. i had enough camonets and could monitor the whole dilemma from the ditch of the road. Needless to say, i later joined the navy. Fuck the grasseaters :)
@@zoolkhan Nette Story, bei uns als Kids lief es ebenso während Manövern in Süd Niedersachsen, ich habe Ummengen von Manöver Mun gefunden und hatte mehere Brit Uniformen ergattert/ gegen Schnaps eingetauscht denn mein Vater hatte ne Kneipe, sogar Magazine hatte ich, meine Mutter hat allesweggeschmissen Ich war total begeistert von Panzern und Armee, als es dann soweit war wollte ich dann doch nicht zu den Erdferkeln und bin bei den Marine 76ern 1. H.Sich.Kp.MFG3 gelandet, ich wollte so gerne aufs Schiff :( aber der Bund wollte unbedingt das ich im Dreck rumkrieche. Grüsse
Welcome to ze Fatherland, ja! Thanks for the tour, still need to make it to Munster! I love the fantastic exhibit demonstrating German mechanisation during WW2 at 02:03
16:30 That actually wasnt a viewing platform, but rather the only opportunity to get inside a tank in Munster (not counting the Merkava, that has been open on accident before) 20:00 yes, I can confirm that first hand - the grid on the escape hatch was missing first time I went there, and a few people took the opportunity to get in it (which ended with me accidentally starting the generator while playing around with some buttons)
The anti tank gun at 3:22 I believe is a 7.5 cm PAK 50. It was a 50mm PAK 38 L/60 with the barrel bored out to 75mm and length cut down to 34 calibers. When Tungsten supplies were gone Germany was left with a lot of fairly useless 50mm anti tank guns. The 7.5cm PAK 50 was considered a quick, easy, and efficient way to make PAK38's relevant again by firing the older 7.5cm KwK 37 HE, Smoke, and HEAT rounds.
You can probably take that literally. They had a sale... just like any other eastern block country in the 90's. Everything was up for grabs after the red army left.
A friend of mine was visiting West Berlin when the wall came down and took the chance to see East Berlin at that time. He said he found several warehouses where the Soviet troops were actually selling anything and everything if you had US$. AK-47, by the box, ammo, vehicles, APCs mainly. He said they hadn't been paid for a while... He was not given to tell fibs
Sir Moke That is true. I was stationed in W Berlin as a tank mechanic, US Army, from '81-84 and then worked as a truck driver for the DoD from' 86-92. Even the Soviets were selling tanks in the newspaper! Amazing times.
Nice museum tour. At 9:45 it is prototype for Leopard 1, not Leopard II, probably a slip of the tongue... otherwise known as the Leopard PTA in wot/blitz. Great video! Wish I could travel there to see them in person.
If you wanna see the tanks rolling u gotta visit the museum during the 1st weekend in September 2018: The Merkava will roll out! ua-cam.com/video/fAjJvEs3WpE/v-deo.html
Yep,its Prototype A Phase II. All Prototypes that were made by Porsche were "A" Rheinmetall were called "B" and I think there was "C" also,but cant remember who made that .
Totally right re the umlaut. I ended up with a hotel in the city rather than the town...my satnav was puzzled. However Muenster is much nicer to stay in so worked out well in the end! Very enjoyable museum. Thanks for the video!
Brilliant concept! Thanks so much for making this video. Deustsches Panzermuseum, vielen Dank! Very nice of the museum to allow access, especially out of hours.
My dad was stationed in Germany in the 2nd AD FWD in the early 80’s. I was 12 or so when we went to that museum and I think I remember there being a panzer IV turret on a stand that you could get in. Very cool place.
I was still there when they had an actual Tiger instead of the replica :) Gonna be very intresting if the owner of the Tiger will get it running in the end or not. I sure hope that he/she will.
Well... There are some differences between the MBT 70 and the Kampfpanzer 70. Like one has missiles, the other not and some other things. But essentially he's right, but also not if you get my meaning...
The plaque with the tank in the Panzermuseum lists the tank as "Kampfpanzer 70 (MBT-70)" so uses both names. They are the same vehicle, the gun on both the US and German variants was to have fired the Shillelagh missile as an option (though whether the Germans were planning on actually purchasing the missile is another thing). The main difference between the German and US prototypes was not the armament, but the engine, with the German tanks using a German engine, the US ones a US engine. The only different weapons were the machine guns, again with the Germans using theirs, the US theirs.
@@jwenting its just thunderfags, that play a lil to much of there sad games...Sorry lil billy buy warthunder ground is fucking atrocious...that games only good for the planes
Another museum with a Merkava and no inside the hatch ,the disappointment is huge , Many sighs of unhappiness will ensue ,oh well thanks for the upload and sharing with us viewers and subscribers. Again I shall wait hopefully for an inside the hatch of the Merkava . If this happens again i shall know you just are teasing us and enjoy breaking our hearts ,ha ha .
Rainer Hellgren He should go there, but most of the rare tanks seem unrestored, like the BT-42 and T-28. Not too go for Inside the hatch. But he should still go there
The way you stated "another Goliath that failed to perform it's duty" It sounded kind of passive-aggressive, and I thought you were gonna 'lay-in' on the poor little thing about how much of a failure it was, especially compared to it's larger kin. Don't be so mean to it, as it already has a massive drinking problem due to the guilt.
I love these little quick tours of museums. I plan on going to a couple this summer and these videos are helping me figure out what ones I want to see. thanks Chief!
Lancelot D. Some SU85s (the SU85M) had that cupola when they didn't have enough 100mm guns to fit the hulls. It's not a reliable way to identify SU100s.
It was a fine weapon, but I'm surprised that a six pounder could penetrate the Jagdpanther like that. Must have been very close. There was a tale of a Churchill that took out a Panther because it's round bounced off the mantlet and down into the thinner armour over the crew compartment. The G model Panther had a chin to prevent this. Thanks for the great tour.
According to Wikipedia under the M48 Patton, "Keiler (Mine flail) Minenräumpanzer Keiler (mine clearing tank "wild boar"), a mine flail, mine clearing vehicle based on a widely modified M48A2C cast hull. The first of 24 Keilers was supplied to the German Army by Rheinmetall in 1997." It even has it's own article. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keiler_(mine_flail)
I worked with a German, Otto Shaefer, who was a tank gunner in WWII. First thing he told me was that he was NOT a Nazi, but a German soldier. He had many stories, as you could imagine. He survived Russia in a Panzer 3 and 4. In 43 he was transferred to France and assigned to a new Panther tank .In the winter of 44 his tank was hit and burned. Otto thought he was hit by a fighter plane firing rockets. He was able to save one crewman but suffered terrible burns to his neck, arms and chest. He got out of the tank and fell into snow. He was captured by Americans and spent 6 months in an American hospital. He said the snow and the Americans saved his life. Otto was an outstanding machinist. Haven't seen him for about 15 years, hope he is still kicking but I don't know.
Im pretty sure that the puma at 5:55 is a 234/4 nkt a 234/3. The 234/3 carries the stubby short 75 (i dont know the designation). Correct me if im wrong though
The Wiesel has two major problems. The first is that it has a tendency to throw its track in a moderately fast turn (or at least they did in the 1990s), the other is that it's so top-heavy that any full-speed turn causes it to flip over. The latter is rather problematic in a recon vehicle, since those times when you really need full speed, you probably also want to zigzag. Which the Wiesel really can't. Pull the 30mm and give it a GMG or BMG, that problem may go away. But at that point, you basically have a Fennek without enough room to mount the plethora of nifty sensors the latter has.
Wiesel only has a 20mm though :P Also Wiesel is not a recon vehicle it is a fire support Vehicle for Infantry used in heavy companies together with TOW Wiesel and mortar troops.
@@JazzJaRa I should really remember it's a 20mm, but for some reason my brain always goes to the bigger calibre. Yeah, the Wiesel is nothing but a slightly up-armoured Kraka. Doesn't really belong at Munster.
The Wiesel was a AIRMOBILE - ANTITANK -Heavy weapons carrier ( TOW missile - 20 mm gun) with light armor for Airborne troops , Introduced 1990 and those issues you mentioned were solved during the mid 1990s ( Upgraded tracks - limited speed etc ) , I was a Fallschirmjäger and involved in those Tests during the 1990s .
@@motorrebell Must have been after I got out. But hey, only took them, what, ten years to address issues that were known a few weeks after the system was introduced? Blinding speed, by BW standards. And it's not like they didn't have accidents; I remember at least two during my time with LLBrig 26. Fatal ones.
Chieftain: I think - don't know - the reason for the US Roland BTN was probably to protect Ramstein air base. If I'm not wrong: It was there USAF tactical nukes were. The giveaway was: The wing had only two flying squadrons and the third was a "weapons squadron" - a normal USAF base had 3 squadrons. Normally an Air Station was guarded by a light infantry batallion of conscripts - which was worthless. Got the station commander into hot water as a conscript by pointing out how utterly worthless it was - suggesting he put in a swing door in the fence so the constant patching of the fence was avoided. Common sport among Homeguard personel to redicule the defence of Air Stations. Only problem was: I (in full accordance with the regulations) held a SHAPE car at gun point (not quite, but close enough - actually it was a bright red and yellow flyswatter: He could not wrench it from my dead cold hands) for not having the proper papers (cleared over the phone) kept their wallets while the administrative process grinded into gear. Asked the German LtCol. to park the car so it was not in the way and where I could keep an eye on it. The German was pissed off. Had a canadian in the car as well plus to other Nato-officers. That could not be helped, and why I had those orders? I told him in the politest possible terms - in fluent German - that that was none of his business: He would have to comply with regulations. Hmmm... the security officer of the air station committed suicide a day or two after that. Connection? Had not the faintest idea. But I had reported the incident in writing to the security officer - in considerable detail.
The A7 . Yes its in the museum in Brisbane. I remember it from childhood. Always thought that it would be good to try and get it running with cooperation from the Germans for the centenary of ww1. No one seemed to be interested.
A guide told me once that the official name of the Hetzer is Jagdpanzer 38(t). (as you can see on the sign) But someone started to call it Hetzer and it became common to call it that way.
The 75mm is an IG 37, which was indeed a 75mm gun mounted on a Pak 35/36 chassis as an ersatz infantry gun when production of the IG 18 came up short. Even captured Russian 37mm guns were used in the conversion.
It took me a bit longer to pass by all vehicles, but it was a normal day when I was there. :D Nice video. Too bad you missed the real Tiger 1 they had. The owner wanted it back for restauration.
The Puma at 13:55 is an early to mid prototype. It has the slightly improve turret, without the gun stabilizing cage and only five instead of six wheels.
Fun fact: in computer programming (and probably other fields, but that's where I learned it), an acronym that you made up first, and then figured out what it would stand for later, is called a "backronym". :)
I am desperately hoping you get to crawl around that Merkava (and show us all), but from your commentary, I'm guessing not. Still, a very nice tank museum. Thanks for the fast tour!
if i'm not mistaken that panther was also from sweden. After the war sweden got one panther and a king tiger from france for mobility test. The king tiger broke down and was used for target practice and the panther was later sent to germany. Can someone please confirme.
The bike and the coutout of a demonstrator are reminders of the tanks crushing the uprisings in Hungary and Czechoslovakia. You and Jingles should visit Stahl auf der Heide this year.
Thanks! Seems to me like you might like to have a periscope on your tank of any kind wouldn't you? Being able to see over hills and such would be nice. I would guess this fording one wasn't used outside of that but I do wonder if it had been tried or thought of.
I kind of expected him to run off to the "viewing platform" to look inside the Leopard. Last time I was there they had an M4 in that place. And the viewing platform was actually a "climb in" platform - the tank's hatch was open and you could get inside and take a look at everything, which was pretty cool.
Guys that served in large fleets of M113s, always pronounced each digit ["M-1-1-3"], or used the word "carrier" since it didn't have a name like Bradley or Stryker. If you occasionally saw one or had a couple in your battalion, then it was "M-one-thirteen".
I used to Run Roland's but as a Printer. I Knew they made a Roland Bi plane WW1. Didn't know they made Armoured Things..!! The Roland Printing presses were Well made and came in 'Huge..!' Cheers kim in Oz. 😎
Wargame, Airlandbattles , European Escalation, Red Dragon (all good games, RD still has a healthy multiplayer community after 3 years in service, albeit a bit hard since you've got some catching up to do with die hard fans) Newest game from them is Steel Division: Normandy 44 (I think this is the game he is referring to)
Whilst I wouldn't hold up the wargames we played at school as telling anybody anything about the real world, I can confirm that the Pakwagen was definitely a favourite. Funny story about the Pakwagen: the ones we used were Airfix 1/76th models, and they were (and still are) entirely fictional. When Airfix wanted to do a model of the type back in the 1960s, they went down to Bovington to look at one. Unfortunately, it's mudguards were missing, but it was parked next to an Sdkfz 232, and they knew that there was a 232 variant with the short 75mm close-support gun, so they put two and two together and made their Pakwagen with four simple, double-wheel mudguards. WRONG! All long-barrelled Pakwagens were based on the Sdkfz 234 (i.e. Puma) chassis, and as such, had the long one-piece mudguards with stowage bins like you see in the video. For the next few years, modelling magazines were running articles about how to scratchbuild a mudguard conversion to accurize the Airfix kit, until some other manufacturer got it right and put us all out of our misery. Ironically I'm now into 'what-if' modelling and the fact that the Airfix Pakwagen is wrong actually makes it MORE interesting than a correct one... ;-)
@@MrHws5mp yep , i had 2 of them as a boy and i wounder what a bastard it was . had the airfix 234 Pakwagen not also the Crew escape/entry hatch between the 2 mudguards like in the Sd.Kfz.231 eight wheel GS Series, this is also wrong. Its was a real bastard , half 234 half eight wheel GS Series 231/232
And tanks in recon units is NOT a cold war thing, germans did it before.. rest of Nato copied it ( at least a lot of countries like NL ), after Cold war dropped it because there was no need for heavy recon units anymore. Now we are changing back to that. And I never understood why Americans kept the A frame construction for their recovery vehicles. The crane is so much more boss.
Never knew there was another Munster (without the Umlaut). Definately want to go there. Wish it was Münster, would've been way closer. Heck, i'd driven there just to get you to sign my copy of "Can Openers"
The truck at 1:12 is a sd, kfz/69/70 protze, they sometimes mounted 37mm AT and 20mm or 15mm drilling AAA cannons on them, some AT versions had frontal sloped armour...
The Wiesel not only would make a great recon vehicle, it is. The LLAufklFz Wiesel 1 is a modified Wiesel 1 TOW used by the Airborne Reconnaissance Companies, and its mighty fun to drive. ;)
Great Show , Fantastic Museum !!! I don't if that 6 pounder round went all the way through the front of the Jagdpanthers front mantlet just below the connection bolt/then through the 80mm front slope , lot of armour in that area ! Ps there was an early model Jagdpanther with the smaller type mantlet at the Imperial War Museum London , along with a Pak 38. But they have both sadly now been removed.
The bike is there as a reminder that those tanks where used to crush civilian protest in the UDSSR. They have an additional panel hanging on the wall explaining it.
Been there a few years ago with a friend. Spend hours telling him stuff about those tanks (thanks to you). Of course the first thing my friend did when we entered is to break a tank. He posed next to the FT-17 and just so happened to knock the machinegun out of the turret.
@13:30 is that a BMP-1 with Bundeswehr markings on it? I know that after 1989, unified Germany still used some old East-German equipment such as mig-29s but I would never have though they'd use BMP-1s
They thought about it and modified some to fit to Western european traffic regulations. But later it was decided that the Marders are enough for the post Cold War Bundeswehr.
I wonder what he's going to do an Inside the Hatch on. I see some tanks I've been wanting him to do, like the Panzer I, Panzer III, Panzer IV, Panzer 38t, T-34/76, and Trabi
If he's doing a Panzer I, he'll probably get in it and have the same problems he had with the French light tanks. "I don't know what there thinking!" and "OMG, the tank is on fire. OWWW, AHAHHH!!! UGHGH!!!"
There was camera mountage being done next to the StuG, though pointing away from it when he passed. So, one of the Marders or the Stupa? The Stug itself?
Whether or not the HS-30 is an IFV or an APC depends on its intended role on the battlefield, not its armament. APCs are meant to transport infantry to an area of operations, drop them off, and then either retreat or wait until needed again. The armor and any weapons mounted on it are defensive in nature, in case the vehicle runs into an ambush or an enemy force happens on it. IFVs are meant to transport infantry to an area of operations and then remain with them and provide fire support. By that simple standard, the HS-30 was indeed an early IFV. The 20mm autocannon was intended for shooting at helicopters, other lightly armored vehicles, and unarmored vehicles, freeing any tanks in the formation to only have to watch for enemy tanks. It wasn't just a transport.
It was also not very good as a vehicle and involved in the first of many scandals involving equipment of the Bundeswehr. Let's just say the BMP was at least the first successful IFV.
a bar is where you get drinks, a brummbär (or baer if you dont have that character on kbd) is a growling bear. small spelling mistake , great fail in communication chain :-) could lead to lose yet another war.
As a German I sometimes think these museums have more operational vehicles than our military.
Well, the definition of "operational" is quite different. For a museum anything moving on its own is "operational" whereas in the military you're out as soon as one indicator isn't working properly. At least in peace times. When at war most of the stuff we call broken today would be out in the battle fields just fine.
@@brag0001 i can only hope you are right.
i know "from a friend" an incident where a german recon plane (a german version of awacs) had a replaced tail made from wood. Thats the condition our military is in. helicopters dont fly, submarines have no parts for routine maintencane... frigates are beeing recalled for whatever reason...
i am not sure how we do it, but we are active in multiple missions since decades... despite all those flaws.
The latest joke is that the german "air force one" plane from the luftwaffe had to emergency land , and our mama merkel continued her trip aboard a regular flight. You can say what you will, she is a pragmatic woman - and her ego took no damage there. (imagine how trump would react if he had to book a normal flight like us mortals)
Lets just hope for continued peace, and that our guns never need to be tested against an adversary that pumps most of its cash into the military. (i.e. russia)
Im dritten Weltkrieg würden unsere 2 letzten funktionierenden Panzer überollt werden,also ja.
I'm Canadian and feel about the same! I still think the German military is much better equipped than the Canadian military. When I was in, everything was held together with duct-tape and paint. I had visited this museum around 1984 during artillery gun camp in the area, much larger now.
@@kanes5105 I (very briefly) looked that up and you might be right actually. We have double the numbers and double the budget, also on Global FIrepower (dont know if thats very accurate though) Canada is on the 25th place, Germany is on rank 10. But trust me, the scandals around our military are very numerous and embarrasing. We had guns not firing straight, the readiness state of our air force and everything that flies is atrocious. For example there was an incident about a certain type of marine (!) helicopter that was not allowed to fly over salt water because it turned out some parts couldnt withstand salt .. Then we got 6 submarines, technically advanced BUT only 2 of them were ready for combat and the story goes on and on. My own conclusion or what I always say is:"The Bundeswehr is being administered, its not being led."
Anyway, greetings to your very nice country from a currently snowstruck Germany, have a great day :)
Nice tour, thanks.
We can add some details, if we may.
01:13 That is a "Krupp-Protze" (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krupp_Protze)
01:39 Sad indeed, but working on it. Aiming for 2020.
02:25 We break the MYTHS, we're not crushing their souls. Or not intentionally, at least. ;)
05:47 "K-rad"?
07:47 37mm was removed, because the Germans used it for Border control in the BGS. There should be an MG, though.
07:55 Only in trials, but htese trials were held in Munster, so ...
08:56 Again, only in trials.
11:11 Our refueller doesn't look like one because it isn't one. It's our standard 5t with a decontamination kit.
13:07 The radar gives it away as a BRM-1K which makes it kind of special: Only 15 were used in East Germany.
13:18 That is an A1 - the only one left.
14:30 Quite the opposite: Although EVERYthing was available back then, the contemporaries were to heady with Cold War victory and failed to secure the stuff. Our East German materiel is few in numbers and in rather mediocre shape.
20:18 ua-cam.com/video/Leibs_zOPaY/v-deo.html
20:43 The lower hull of the M-48 proved to have excellent characteristics against mine explosions.
The Sd Kfz 2 is known by the nickname Kettenkrad and has been known to be shortened to Krad. Not to sure if "Krad" is official military lingo, but I have heard it used in the wargaming community before. Though I've never heard it be pronounced as 'k-rad' before. (maybe because I'm used to text and have may have just been miss reading it as such.
I've also seen a joke name calling them the Kittenkrad, or Kitten by some wargamers (since later panzer are known as the big cats)
That's clear, we're just confused by the pronounciation "kay-rad".
EndlesNights Technically saying "Krad" is too short because it is a short form of another word itself, the word "Kraftrad", basically translating to Motorcycle. The famous Wehrmacht motorbikes with sidecart would also be called a "Krad", as well as every other motorcycle. It is kind of an old term and not really used in common language anymore (being replaced by "Motorrad") but it can still be found in the traffic code and driving licence related stuff.
What a beautiful museum! Wanted to visite once but was at the wrong münster xD
I hope he do it again after the rebuild! :D
Is that horse also a replica?
EndlesNights nope it's real. Just German discipline in action.
Thanks! Wasn't too sure.
DaOneJoel
certainly its been restored though?
'stripped of equipment'
EndlesNights it’s indeed a real one. But we have to change it like every 3-4 months.
I was lucky enough to see inside the A7V replica a few years ago. It's not just a replica- it's a German made one. It's almost down to every bolt and nut a real one inside and out. Not just a pretty shell
That's good to hear.
So good of a copy we took it on a tour of french trenches where it got captured by australians...
It’s probably in better nick than the original, here in Australia.
I watched the WHOLE video just to see the little white Mercedes Jeep near the end.... I've no interest in the armored vehicles,. 😁
"Alot of people don't come out this door. The museum devours them, their souls cursed to walk among tanks for all eternity"
What a great way to go.
"arrrse" - Cheiftain
This is the correct pronunciation. Americans take note.
@@hughboyd2904 no, we speak American English, also, fuck metric.
@@dangersnail5839 I thought you guys spoke oil and incest?
@@switchbranch8411 + Bald Eagles and GUNS
Holy shit that was 22 minutes? It passed by so quickly :(
You can have a guided tour through the museum, but it takes about 4 to 5 houres.
Ah, Munster. Been stationed there doing basic training with the Panzergrenadiers.
It's a raunchy little place...lot's of military history, having 3(used to be 4) barracks almost entirely devoted to all things tank combat, a giant training field, artillery firing range and lot's of soldiers, the place kind of evolved around it. Seedy bars, NATO-shops and brothels...
In fact, when we were introduced to the Barracks one of the stops was a piece of fence next to a road outside the barracks grounds, he stopped, turn left, Feldwebel was talking, and then told us to turn around. "And there is where you can blow off some steam...on leave, of course." across the road was a Brothel...it was just there
I was stationed there also..for 7 years with the British Army...I went to the museum 3 times. Good times!
i was one of the kids. we had a caravan in the area.. my favorite fun was do search the tank training (truppenuebungsplatz) areal for lost camonets and ammobelts....or to take trips in the railway cars next to that tank-loading-ramp - just release the brakes and have a trip...
i am sure we were better recon people than the army ever had, only once have we been forced to drop to ground behind a bunker... we got away ... we always did :)
once i found a comm-cable in "my forest" ... i could use it, i think i stole like 30 meters from an active connection.
did not take long for some jeep to drive along the road in order to find the fault, but hey.. i had enough camonets and could monitor the whole dilemma from the ditch of the road.
Needless to say, i later joined the navy. Fuck the grasseaters :)
@@zoolkhan
Nette Story, bei uns als Kids lief es ebenso während Manövern in Süd Niedersachsen, ich habe Ummengen von Manöver Mun gefunden und hatte mehere Brit Uniformen ergattert/ gegen Schnaps eingetauscht denn mein Vater hatte ne Kneipe, sogar Magazine hatte ich, meine Mutter hat allesweggeschmissen
Ich war total begeistert von Panzern und Armee, als es dann soweit war wollte ich dann doch nicht zu den Erdferkeln und bin bei den Marine 76ern 1. H.Sich.Kp.MFG3 gelandet, ich wollte so gerne aufs Schiff :( aber der Bund wollte unbedingt das ich im Dreck rumkrieche.
Grüsse
@@Sturminfantrist haha cool.
*Highfive*
Funker/Radio-operator, 4rth Minensweeper squadron Wilhelmshaven.
Fleet supply ship/Tender/Versorger Nienburg
(Still operating radio, nowadays with the ham-call OH8XAT)
Funke immernoch, heute mit Amateur Rufzeichen)
Very good,that Tiger tank was very impressive model. Never would have guessed it was not real, from the video.
Welcome to ze Fatherland, ja! Thanks for the tour, still need to make it to Munster! I love the fantastic exhibit demonstrating German mechanisation during WW2 at 02:03
Hey Bis I cant believe you haven't visited yet? Mind you this comment is 9 months old lol!
16:30 That actually wasnt a viewing platform, but rather the only opportunity to get inside a tank in Munster (not counting the Merkava, that has been open on accident before)
20:00 yes, I can confirm that first hand - the grid on the escape hatch was missing first time I went there, and a few people took the opportunity to get in it (which ended with me accidentally starting the generator while playing around with some buttons)
The anti tank gun at 3:22 I believe is a 7.5 cm PAK 50. It was a 50mm PAK 38 L/60 with the barrel bored out to 75mm and length cut down to 34 calibers. When Tungsten supplies were gone Germany was left with a lot of fairly useless 50mm anti tank guns. The 7.5cm PAK 50 was considered a quick, easy, and efficient way to make PAK38's relevant again by firing the older 7.5cm KwK 37 HE, Smoke, and HEAT rounds.
Bundeswehr: Marches straight into your capital
You: Wtf??
Bundeswehr: ITS JUST RECONNAISSANCE BRO
"East German Army Closing Down Sale" that is funny!!!
You can probably take that literally. They had a sale... just like any other eastern block country in the 90's. Everything was up for grabs after the red army left.
The Bundeswehr nearly sold anything they had to either allies, like the US (they wanted the newest planes mainly) and to third world countries.
A friend of mine was visiting West Berlin when the wall came down and took the chance to see East Berlin at that time. He said he found several warehouses where the Soviet troops were actually selling anything and everything if you had US$. AK-47, by the box, ammo, vehicles, APCs mainly. He said they hadn't been paid for a while... He was not given to tell fibs
Sir Moke That is true. I was stationed in W Berlin as a tank mechanic, US Army, from '81-84 and then worked as a truck driver for the DoD from' 86-92. Even the Soviets were selling tanks in the newspaper! Amazing times.
The west germans sold off the entire east german military EXCEPT they kept the mig 29s around for awhile and gave them to other allies to test out
Nice museum tour. At 9:45 it is prototype for Leopard 1, not Leopard II, probably a slip of the tongue... otherwise known as the Leopard PTA in wot/blitz. Great video! Wish I could travel there to see them in person.
I can't tell if this is a tank Museum or tank strip club like honesty 3 thicc armor assed soon as you walk in
lmaoo good comment :DD
Definitely makes me want to visit!
Love to see a few more modern vehicles: leopard 2 and merkva please 👍
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If you wanna see the tanks rolling u gotta visit the museum during the 1st weekend in September 2018: The Merkava will roll out! ua-cam.com/video/fAjJvEs3WpE/v-deo.html
john martin yeah... you’re full of shit.
@john martin
You need to get out of your basement more and go to a library... You didn't get one fucking thing right there..
I think that was prototype for Leopard 1 and not for 2 9:42
And if im not wrong its prototype A from Porsche.
You're right he misspelled I guess.
Yeah i noticed that too...probably a Freudian slip. Is that not the same model as Leopard PTA in WoT Blitz? Or am I mistaken?
Close. You are correct at the prototype being of the leopard 1, not the leopard 2, but the Prototype is a "Phase II" model from Porsche.
Yep,its Prototype A Phase II.
All Prototypes that were made by Porsche were "A"
Rheinmetall were called "B" and
I think there was "C" also,but cant remember who made that .
@@pex_the_unalivedrunk6785 it is
Totally right re the umlaut. I ended up with a hotel in the city rather than the town...my satnav was puzzled. However Muenster is much nicer to stay in so worked out well in the end! Very enjoyable museum. Thanks for the video!
The new Arse End entrance looks really weird and probably just temporary, and the first time I went to Munster, I was in the wrong place. LoL
They really changed the oirder from the last time I went there.
Brilliant concept! Thanks so much for making this video. Deustsches Panzermuseum, vielen Dank! Very nice of the museum to allow access, especially out of hours.
My dad was stationed in Germany in the 2nd AD FWD in the early 80’s. I was 12 or so when we went to that museum and I think I remember there being a panzer IV turret on a stand that you could get in. Very cool place.
I was still there when they had an actual Tiger instead of the replica :) Gonna be very intresting if the owner of the Tiger will get it running in the end or not. I sure hope that he/she will.
vehicles in maintenance may well be someplace else and not in the halls.
The tank you called MBT 70, should that not be the Kampfpanzer 70, wich was the german name?
Thats the German Name. And it means Battle Tank, so basically, he is not wrong.
Plus they're the same project under different names. So he's right
Well... There are some differences between the MBT 70 and the Kampfpanzer 70. Like one has missiles, the other not and some other things. But essentially he's right, but also not if you get my meaning...
The plaque with the tank in the Panzermuseum lists the tank as "Kampfpanzer 70 (MBT-70)" so uses both names.
They are the same vehicle, the gun on both the US and German variants was to have fired the Shillelagh missile as an option (though whether the Germans were planning on actually purchasing the missile is another thing).
The main difference between the German and US prototypes was not the armament, but the engine, with the German tanks using a German engine, the US ones a US engine.
The only different weapons were the machine guns, again with the Germans using theirs, the US theirs.
@@jwenting its just thunderfags, that play a lil to much of there sad games...Sorry lil billy buy warthunder ground is fucking atrocious...that games only good for the planes
Another museum with a Merkava and no inside the hatch ,the disappointment is huge , Many sighs of unhappiness will ensue ,oh well thanks for the upload and sharing with us viewers and subscribers. Again I shall wait hopefully for an inside the hatch of the Merkava . If this happens again i shall know you just are teasing us and enjoy breaking our hearts ,ha ha .
Man, the level of enthusiasm in this video...
Come to finland tank museum in hämeenlinna we have armored train too :) And we have some tanks that is only 1 in the world!!
Been in there last summer. It was a really impressing to see how much tanks Finns have stole to the Soviet.
Rainer Hellgren He should go there, but most of the rare tanks seem unrestored, like the BT-42 and T-28. Not too go for Inside the hatch. But he should still go there
Need an armored steam train.
Parolan panssarimuseo on nais
This not a refueling truck it is a HEP 70 Decontamination Vehicle which was used on Divsion level or in the NBC defense battalions
The way you stated "another Goliath that failed to perform it's duty" It sounded kind of passive-aggressive, and I thought you were gonna 'lay-in' on the poor little thing about how much of a failure it was, especially compared to it's larger kin. Don't be so mean to it, as it already has a massive drinking problem due to the guilt.
Very good job of a high speed tour! Pure enjoyment for us average history nerds :)
I went there myself with some mates, awesome museum, lots to see!! We actually went about 2 months after you recorded this video ;)
That was a cool video dude, you should do more of these!
I love these little quick tours of museums. I plan on going to a couple this summer and these videos are helping me figure out what ones I want to see. thanks Chief!
it's an su-100 not an su-85! REEEEEEE!
Lancelot D. Spotted that too. The mantlet is obvious
you use the mantlet? i preffer to use the the cupola to identifie su-100
Lancelot D. Some SU85s (the SU85M) had that cupola when they didn't have enough 100mm guns to fit the hulls. It's not a reliable way to identify SU100s.
F... normies !
Urrah Homosexuality should be made invisible
The auto-generated English closed captions are solid gold
Didn't you mean prototype vehicle for the Leopard I and not the Leopard II?
It was a fine weapon, but I'm surprised that a six pounder could penetrate the Jagdpanther like that. Must have been very close. There was a tale of a Churchill that took out a Panther because it's round bounced off the mantlet and down into the thinner armour over the crew compartment. The G model Panther had a chin to prevent this. Thanks for the great tour.
correction 5:47 not su 85 it an su 100 due to the commander hatch and the bigger gun
Damn im happy im subbed to this channel. Chieftain you're the best. thankyou for this.
You are welcome
According to Wikipedia under the M48 Patton, "Keiler (Mine flail) Minenräumpanzer Keiler (mine clearing tank "wild boar"), a mine flail, mine clearing vehicle based on a widely modified M48A2C cast hull. The first of 24 Keilers was supplied to the German Army by Rheinmetall in 1997." It even has it's own article. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keiler_(mine_flail)
I love these tours. Who knows if I'll ever make it to all these great museums? At least I can sort of see what they have to offer with these videos
I worked with a German, Otto Shaefer, who was a tank gunner in WWII. First thing he told me was that he was NOT a Nazi, but a German soldier. He had many stories, as you could imagine. He survived Russia in a Panzer 3 and 4. In 43 he was transferred to France and assigned to a new Panther tank .In the winter of 44 his tank was hit and burned. Otto thought he was hit by a fighter plane firing rockets. He was able to save one crewman but suffered terrible burns to his neck, arms and chest. He got out of the tank and fell into snow. He was captured by Americans and spent 6 months in an American hospital. He said the snow and the Americans saved his life. Otto was an outstanding machinist. Haven't seen him for about 15 years, hope he is still kicking but I don't know.
Thank You Chieftain! was there in the mid 2000, we will visit again in june!
Im pretty sure that the puma at 5:55 is a 234/4 nkt a 234/3. The 234/3 carries the stubby short 75 (i dont know the designation). Correct me if im wrong though
[WT] 《FoxHound31》 you are right.
Video! Always happy to see a new upload on this channel.
The Wiesel has two major problems. The first is that it has a tendency to throw its track in a moderately fast turn (or at least they did in the 1990s), the other is that it's so top-heavy that any full-speed turn causes it to flip over. The latter is rather problematic in a recon vehicle, since those times when you really need full speed, you probably also want to zigzag. Which the Wiesel really can't.
Pull the 30mm and give it a GMG or BMG, that problem may go away. But at that point, you basically have a Fennek without enough room to mount the plethora of nifty sensors the latter has.
Wiesel only has a 20mm though :P Also Wiesel is not a recon vehicle it is a fire support Vehicle for Infantry used in heavy companies together with TOW Wiesel and mortar troops.
@@JazzJaRa I should really remember it's a 20mm, but for some reason my brain always goes to the bigger calibre. Yeah, the Wiesel is nothing but a slightly up-armoured Kraka. Doesn't really belong at Munster.
The Wiesel was a AIRMOBILE - ANTITANK -Heavy weapons carrier ( TOW missile - 20 mm gun) with light armor for Airborne troops , Introduced 1990 and those issues you mentioned were solved during the mid 1990s ( Upgraded tracks - limited speed etc ) , I was a Fallschirmjäger and involved in those Tests during the 1990s .
@@motorrebell Must have been after I got out. But hey, only took them, what, ten years to address issues that were known a few weeks after the system was introduced?
Blinding speed, by BW standards.
And it's not like they didn't have accidents; I remember at least two during my time with LLBrig 26. Fatal ones.
Chieftain: I think - don't know - the reason for the US Roland BTN was probably to protect Ramstein air base.
If I'm not wrong: It was there USAF tactical nukes were. The giveaway was: The wing had only two flying squadrons and the third was a "weapons squadron" - a normal USAF base had 3 squadrons.
Normally an Air Station was guarded by a light infantry batallion of conscripts - which was worthless. Got the station commander into hot water as a conscript by pointing out how utterly worthless it was - suggesting he put in a swing door in the fence so the constant patching of the fence was avoided. Common sport among Homeguard personel to redicule the defence of Air Stations.
Only problem was: I (in full accordance with the regulations) held a SHAPE car at gun point (not quite, but close enough - actually it was a bright red and yellow flyswatter: He could not wrench it from my dead cold hands) for not having the proper papers (cleared over the phone) kept their wallets while the administrative process grinded into gear. Asked the German LtCol. to park the car so it was not in the way and where I could keep an eye on it.
The German was pissed off. Had a canadian in the car as well plus to other Nato-officers.
That could not be helped, and why I had those orders? I told him in the politest possible terms - in fluent German - that that was none of his business: He would have to comply with regulations.
Hmmm... the security officer of the air station committed suicide a day or two after that.
Connection? Had not the faintest idea. But I had reported the incident in writing to the security officer - in considerable detail.
The A7 . Yes its in the museum in Brisbane. I remember it from childhood. Always thought that it would be good to try and get it running with cooperation from the Germans for the centenary of ww1. No one seemed to be interested.
Heavy Reconnaissance Platoon of a Panzerdivision were three Leopards, normal recon platoon were three Luchses.
It’s funny how chieftain is so used to being around these tanks. I would spend 20 minutes looking around some of these
9:40 spähpanzer ru251 right?
One of the leopard 1 prototypes
I like it in WT.
16:32 that platform is so you can crawl into the Leopard.. It's really cramped
A guide told me once that the official name of the Hetzer is Jagdpanzer 38(t). (as you can see on the sign)
But someone started to call it Hetzer and it became common to call it that way.
as always, these quick tours are pretty cools, thanks.
HELP, what is the tank at 16:28 ( on the right as Nicholas exits the first building) ?
Mine thrower (Minenwurfsystem) "Scorpion"
The 75mm is an IG 37, which was indeed a 75mm gun mounted on a Pak 35/36 chassis as an ersatz infantry gun when production of the IG 18 came up short. Even captured Russian 37mm guns were used in the conversion.
It took me a bit longer to pass by all vehicles, but it was a normal day when I was there. :D
Nice video. Too bad you missed the real Tiger 1 they had. The owner wanted it back for restauration.
The Puma at 13:55 is an early to mid prototype. It has the slightly improve turret, without the gun stabilizing cage and only five instead of six wheels.
I noticed that too.you right
Thanks! I really like the high speed walk throughout.
Fun fact: in computer programming (and probably other fields, but that's where I learned it), an acronym that you made up first, and then figured out what it would stand for later, is called a "backronym". :)
I was really hoping all your future videos were going to be about house painting. Damn. I guess I'll watch anyway.
Great video! Thank you so much!!!
I am desperately hoping you get to crawl around that Merkava (and show us all), but from your commentary, I'm guessing not. Still, a very nice tank museum. Thanks for the fast tour!
been there 2 days before this video got uploaded. can recommend :)
if i'm not mistaken that panther was also from sweden. After the war sweden got one panther and a king tiger from france for mobility test. The king tiger broke down and was used for target practice and the panther was later sent to germany. Can someone please confirme.
SuperSebbe96 thats true.
Swedes are bad when it comes to taking care of rare tanks :)(I'm a half swede)
The bike and the coutout of a demonstrator are reminders of the tanks crushing the uprisings in Hungary and Czechoslovakia.
You and Jingles should visit Stahl auf der Heide this year.
Thanks! Seems to me like you might like to have a periscope on your tank of any kind wouldn't you? Being able to see over hills and such would be nice. I would guess this fording one wasn't used outside of that but I do wonder if it had been tried or thought of.
I kind of expected him to run off to the "viewing platform" to look inside the Leopard.
Last time I was there they had an M4 in that place. And the viewing platform was actually a "climb in" platform - the tank's hatch was open and you could get inside and take a look at everything, which was pretty cool.
11:30 What's that turret behind the reconnaissance vehicle? Looks like an M3 Lee turret was re-used as an anti air turret.
Looks like an Hs-30 turret.
Ah thanks
Thanks for doing these thanks for doing them.
when we aussie take something....getting it back requires....um....how do I put it....stealing it back? :D
:D
Perhaps we might have already done so.(better check inside the dummy we left)
ok we declare war on you get our tank back.
Can we please get a movie of some Germans attempting to 'heist' the A7V from Australia?
Had the pleasure of seeing that at the AWM when it was on loan from Queensland. Yeah nup you're not getting it back.
1:20 was there also an m/42 designation for the TNH or is this an m/41? or perhaps the S-II upgrade was called that?
MBT-70? Oo
Could you please make any video about it, what was it inside, etc? That is very interesting.
Guys that served in large fleets of M113s, always pronounced each digit ["M-1-1-3"], or used the word "carrier" since it didn't have a name like Bradley or Stryker. If you occasionally saw one or had a couple in your battalion, then it was "M-one-thirteen".
9:55 thats a Leopard 1 Prototype, not Leopard 2. ;)
I used to Run Roland's but as a Printer.
I Knew they made a Roland Bi plane WW1.
Didn't know they made Armoured Things..!!
The Roland Printing presses were Well made and came in 'Huge..!'
Cheers kim in Oz. 😎
4:33 information about the Jagdpanther and the dents and hole. Big marks made by 17 pounder APCBC and the hole is made by 6 pounder APDS.
The Pakwagen is the most favourite Vehicle of Wargaming? It's not even in WoT its in War Thunder
Wargame, Airlandbattles , European Escalation, Red Dragon (all good games, RD still has a healthy multiplayer community after 3 years in service, albeit a bit hard since you've got some catching up to do with die hard fans)
Newest game from them is Steel Division: Normandy 44 (I think this is the game he is referring to)
Whilst I wouldn't hold up the wargames we played at school as telling anybody anything about the real world, I can confirm that the Pakwagen was definitely a favourite.
Funny story about the Pakwagen: the ones we used were Airfix 1/76th models, and they were (and still are) entirely fictional. When Airfix wanted to do a model of the type back in the 1960s, they went down to Bovington to look at one. Unfortunately, it's mudguards were missing, but it was parked next to an Sdkfz 232, and they knew that there was a 232 variant with the short 75mm close-support gun, so they put two and two together and made their Pakwagen with four simple, double-wheel mudguards. WRONG! All long-barrelled Pakwagens were based on the Sdkfz 234 (i.e. Puma) chassis, and as such, had the long one-piece mudguards with stowage bins like you see in the video. For the next few years, modelling magazines were running articles about how to scratchbuild a mudguard conversion to accurize the Airfix kit, until some other manufacturer got it right and put us all out of our misery.
Ironically I'm now into 'what-if' modelling and the fact that the Airfix Pakwagen is wrong actually makes it MORE interesting than a correct one... ;-)
@@MrHws5mp
yep , i had 2 of them as a boy and i wounder what a bastard it was .
had the airfix 234 Pakwagen not also the Crew escape/entry hatch between the 2 mudguards like in the Sd.Kfz.231 eight wheel GS Series, this is also wrong.
Its was a real bastard , half 234 half eight wheel GS Series 231/232
And tanks in recon units is NOT a cold war thing, germans did it before.. rest of Nato copied it ( at least a lot of countries like NL ), after Cold war dropped it because there was no need for heavy recon units anymore. Now we are changing back to that. And I never understood why Americans kept the A frame construction for their recovery vehicles. The crane is so much more boss.
Never knew there was another Munster (without the Umlaut). Definately want to go there. Wish it was Münster, would've been way closer. Heck, i'd driven there just to get you to sign my copy of "Can Openers"
The truck at 1:12 is a sd, kfz/69/70 protze, they sometimes mounted 37mm AT and 20mm or 15mm drilling AAA cannons on them, some AT versions had frontal sloped armour...
The Wiesel not only would make a great recon vehicle, it is.
The LLAufklFz Wiesel 1 is a modified Wiesel 1 TOW used by the Airborne Reconnaissance Companies, and its mighty fun to drive. ;)
Great Show , Fantastic Museum !!! I don't if that 6 pounder round went all the way through the front of the Jagdpanthers front mantlet just below the connection bolt/then through the 80mm front slope , lot of armour in that area !
Ps there was an early model Jagdpanther with the smaller type mantlet at the Imperial War Museum London , along with a Pak 38. But they have both sadly now been removed.
The German M88's use to really haul ass down the Autobahn. The front use to rear up and only about 2/3 of the track would be in contact with the road.
Oh PLEEEEEASE tell me you're going to get to poke around inside some of these, MBT-70 and Panzer IV would be AWESOME!
The bike is there as a reminder that those tanks where used to crush civilian protest in the UDSSR. They have an additional panel hanging on the wall explaining it.
4 words that'll make you cry
HANS THE TRANSMISSION BROKE
Been there a few years ago with a friend. Spend hours telling him stuff about those tanks (thanks to you). Of course the first thing my friend did when we entered is to break a tank. He posed next to the FT-17 and just so happened to knock the machinegun out of the turret.
i get this is 4 years old, but i must say:
lmao
If you see the arse-end of tanks...maybe you are in...ARSEnal...
lol (love it) still chuckling
Well The Chieftain also happens to be an ARRSEr if you want to check him out on there.
But Arsenalen is the Swedish tank museum!
But it was a joke...
But I understood that.
*Are any of those tanks in running order or just empty shells like in most tank museums?*
JoeDurobot The Panther, and Panzer 3 and 4 are operational.
Search for 'Stahl auf der Heide' here on youtube. Its an annual event with some of the tanks running.
Why to tank museums always look so cold and damp? ....I was shivering watching this! Thanks for a great - though speedy - video.
At the Leopard 1 "viewing platform" you can actually get into the turret of the Leopard one.
Good tour, I really enjoyed it, thanks!
@13:30 is that a BMP-1 with Bundeswehr markings on it? I know that after 1989, unified Germany still used some old East-German equipment such as mig-29s but I would never have though they'd use BMP-1s
They thought about it and modified some to fit to Western european traffic regulations. But later it was decided that the Marders are enough for the post Cold War Bundeswehr.
I wonder what he's going to do an Inside the Hatch on. I see some tanks I've been wanting him to do, like the Panzer I, Panzer III, Panzer IV, Panzer 38t, T-34/76, and Trabi
If he's doing a Panzer I, he'll probably get in it and have the same problems he had with the French light tanks. "I don't know what there thinking!" and "OMG, the tank is on fire. OWWW, AHAHHH!!! UGHGH!!!"
There was camera mountage being done next to the StuG, though pointing away from it when he passed.
So, one of the Marders or the Stupa? The Stug itself?
Neuttah That would be cool too
Whether or not the HS-30 is an IFV or an APC depends on its intended role on the battlefield, not its armament. APCs are meant to transport infantry to an area of operations, drop them off, and then either retreat or wait until needed again. The armor and any weapons mounted on it are defensive in nature, in case the vehicle runs into an ambush or an enemy force happens on it. IFVs are meant to transport infantry to an area of operations and then remain with them and provide fire support. By that simple standard, the HS-30 was indeed an early IFV. The 20mm autocannon was intended for shooting at helicopters, other lightly armored vehicles, and unarmored vehicles, freeing any tanks in the formation to only have to watch for enemy tanks. It wasn't just a transport.
It was also not very good as a vehicle and involved in the first of many scandals involving equipment of the Bundeswehr. Let's just say the BMP was at least the first successful IFV.
Just got your book, loving it so far. I hope you make more like it
16:33 that's a leopard where you can go inside and have a look at the loaders position
There is a really nice pub at the railway station where you can wait for the train after visiting this great museum.
Sturmpanzer IV NOT known as the Brummbar? Did I hear correctly?
Why call it Brummbar? Its German. They should call it Haribo.
It was most commonly known as the Stupa, which is short for STUrmPAnzer.
a bar is where you get drinks, a brummbär (or baer if you dont have that character on kbd) is a growling bear.
small spelling mistake , great fail in communication chain :-) could lead to lose yet another war.