Are Big College Football Games Still AS BIG? (Josh Pate Cut)
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- Опубліковано 18 лис 2024
- College Football bold prediction season came and went over the summer - this is the hard part. On Josh Pate's College Football Show Ep 559 Josh Pate took a look at how the world has changed the way we view games like UGA vs Alabama. Has College Football Playoff expansion devalued big regular season games? Let us know what you think in the comments below and be sure to SUBSCRIBE to the channel and CLICK THE BELL for notifications as we bring you multiple live shows per week!
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Streaming is hiding good games behind pay walls lots of fans will skip
Perfect example. Notre Dame v Louisville. My stepdad is a massive ND fan but he is older and lives in the country so streaming isn’t an option.
This is straight facts that the value of games has been damaged by the playoff. MMW within a year or two someone will sit their starters for a regular season week 12 game vs a rival.
This was very well explained by Josh and maybe his best segment ever
I am old enough to remeber when ABC only showed one game of colloge football at 3:30 eastern of Saturday
The rivalries are the most exciting games to me still.
34 years old. Would definitely go back to the early aughts
Like ANY walk-on from the 70s through the 90s. Like Brook Berringet(look it up)
Bama fan. Would go back to 2010 to 2020 all over again. 😂
The opt out nonsense started when the talking heads in sports media said JD Clowney shouldve opted out of the 2014 season. NEVER before was that even a thought.
I think the big games are still big. ( Jawga vs Bama, Texas vs Meechigan). Great games, but one thing that makes games / teams ho-hum ( to me at least) is the excessive coverage/analysis everywhere you turn. I don't mind pre-game coverage, but we get the firehose . and too many times popular people make rediculous statements ( like so and so could likely beat < insert struggling NFL team>) Personally, Those type of comments make me turn off the program. Yes, even when it's my team they're talking about. It's the rat poison stuff that Saban used to talk about. As we all should know, It's college football and on any given Saturday, the unexpected can, and does happen. Josh, I like your show because you keep it real.
Sure the CFP dillutes the games a bit, but the Georgia/Alabama game was still just as exciting for me. I don't care if both teams still make the playoffs. It's not like it changes the outcome for teams ranked beneath them.
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How could a bowl game be better than being selected for a playoff?
This segment aged well.
As a 8 year old Auburn fan, I remember Ben Tate dunking the goal post in the 2009 Outback Bowl just as well as I remember the 2010 Title. Bowl games use to be incredible
I can tell you that as a Michigan fan the OSU games and MSU games (and penn st. whiteouts, although those are newer) felt the same the past few years as they did back in 2006. Michigan vs OSU has always been a big deal, regardless of rose bowl, playoffs, or if both teams are 9-2. I can clearly recount the denard years, the 2016 game, the 2019 (huge loss) and then, ofc, the beautiful 2021 game with the snow falling just as the game ended that ended the decade of torment.
Regardless of Michigan though, i still love watching the rivalries of every team, be it the civil war in oregon, or the red river down south. I clearly remember watching Tennessee beating bama, and (this was before the playoffs, but certainly in the peak of Who's in) the auburn Kick 6. still get chills from thinking about that return.
I disagree that the games are meaningless. Maybe because i'm not watching the talking-heads talking all the time (you and klatt pretty exclusively tbh) and just enjoy watching the games, but there are plenty of beautiful and memorable games every year.
This is the kind of thing that makes me a sub.
The playoff; and all the decisions that adults have made around it, is partly causing the problem. It's also just a cultural shift with all the information and media thrown at us and our brains are just exploded with too many options and too much information. LIke you were saying in this video. And now some bowl games are "meaningless" and some regular season games are becoming "meaningless." And players are transferring everywhere and making money like crazy. And programs are jumping from one conference to the next. And it's just chaos. And it's terrible. The game is still mostly the same and enjoyable to watch. (In-between 10 min. commercial breaks mind you.) But all the things surrounding it are just spiraling out of control.
Bring back that BCS. 🙌
I do agree to some degree. My fist year at UT Tennessee played USC for the first game of the year. Neyland was packed and it was a big deal. This year we played UTC. I think that was 2006
Viewership has never been higher, and the problem with ‘mythic’ standards they aren’t real.
Grew up in the old days when kids played for their school, not just themselves
In the old days the SEC was typically kept from the postseason by writers. Nothing has changed in the last 20 years down here aside from the fact that we are allowed in now and we win. The old ways were donkey shit.
@@BG-bx4ey"in the old days"-Bear Bryant was 0-4 Vs Notre Dame. Save us the pity party. The schools up north stopped caring so much about football combined with a massive population shift to the American southeastern states=SEC football took over and is still on top today. What exactly are you complaining about? lol smh
@@baldwinserrantshot365it’s not that the north stopped caring. The south just started caring more. Every school in FBS spends more money now than they did even 10 years ago on football. That’s just some shitty excuse. The southeast owns football.
I know the specifically NBA feels so watered down compared to when I was a little kid
Bull stuff and games don't have meaning; they have a marketing value, and the playoffs are just smoke and mirrors meant for more marketing. For example, the selection committee has proven that by showing the best way to kill a school's athletic program, or conference, for that matter, is to allow them ( the college football selection committee) to get involved in ranking and decision-making that should be left to computers. The committee members collectively said that we will still decide whether you are good enough if you are undefeated. That kills team spirit and the conference's belief that you get what you earn. The Florida State's fan base may never recover. The best thing Florida State could have done was to challenge the college football selection committee by refusing to play in the Geroge Bowl game. As it stands now, the college selection comment has killed that school's recruiting and belief that hard work means something, so NO college football no longer has meaning because of human manipulation. How do we right the ship? Create fines for the selection committee members and send a clear message to everyone on the college football selection committee by fining every board member and placing the funds in a NIL fund for the ACC football programs. A message must be sent or risk biases and unsavory actions tied to board members' personal agendas.
It seems the only people that question this is the people that don’t even play the game. Have we asked the players how they feel? I would like to hear their thoughts and not from people that watch it from afar like myself!
Bama UGA felt like the super bowl last night. Case closed
I think it does a little bit but it’ll be worth it when we get those home playoff gamee
If you want elimination regular season games watch UNLV vs Fresno State
Naw. I don't buy this story. I am 56 and accepted the change of Football and it is better than it was 10 years ago
2 team championship game was bad b/c 3 teams easily can go undefeated.
4 team playoff killed the perception of bowl games and finnaly had a 1 off example to where it was flawed (FSU)
12 team playoff saturates the playoff a little too much but is forced due to the "new years 6 bowl games"
It’s a system that unfortunately, this show has to adhere to because it’s entertainment first and foremost. Josh would probably love to cover every single game but the teams with the most, key word, Revenue. So Georgia for example and those who are fans produce revenue for the shows and entertainment we see and in todays system if you aren’t in that top 12 then it doesn’t matter caz you won’t bring in the same revenue. It’s sad football is becoming entertainment sport rather than just football the sport
CFB was the ONLY league in sports that didn't have a playoff. I want the championship to be determined on the field.
Crushing the walk-on programs didn't help either
Like who?
Ricky Bobby destroyed college football eh? Wild stuff
In a way the playoff is infinite lol the regular season is just qualifiers
They definitely lose there meaning even the ranked unranked upsets are not even that crazy anymore because they do nothing to derail a season unless a team loses 3ish times
EXACTLY. Notre dame could easily make the playoff this year, it’s like losing to NIU never happened
I agree with you that big match-ups in the Regular season dont matter as much. However, im thinking the matchups in the playoffs are where all that hype is going to be moved to.
If teams lose their big-time regular season games, then they won't make the playoffs. Right?
Boom to the sooner!!! You were wrong Josh!!!! You were very wrong!!!
Call me crazy but I feel like we had a lot more competitive games that ended up in either upsets or crazy classics that shouldn’t have happened on paper. Back in the day a school may be 6-4 or 5-5 but had the chance to ruin a top 5 teams season in week 11…and they played their hearts out for their pride. Now we have some every now and then but toward the end of the season you can tell teams that are out of it just kinda go through the motions.
College Football is Better Now! I'm a 53 yr former collegiate athlete.
The who in Era was a over kill.
Too many people are simply being tricked by nostalgia.
I stopped watching because the BCS and may have never returned if they didn't create a playoff. The allure of the bowls was already disminishing. You can only play in so many Fiestas Bowls.
Josh is wrong about fanbases checking out. Neverheard anyone say, "hope we make the capital one bowl". He lives and works in a college football bubble, his perspective is skewed to the hardcores.
If they didnt create a playoff every executive was gonna be in jail..... A lot of people seem to forget the fact that the BCS and NCAA were under HEAVY and EXTREMELY SERIOUS lawsuits near the end of the BCS. And not just like FSU's "you snubbed for a season" type of lawsuits. By 2012, the BCS was facing:
- A 12-university civil class action lawsuit for $250 million
- 3 different state governments were suing them for tax fraud
- The FBI already convicted multiple sponsors and executives of corruption
- The US Department of Justice filed a lawsuit with over 20 felony counts of corruption, anti-trust and anti-competitive behavior
- The US Senate was having trial hearings with the BCS and NCAA on the DOJ investigation
Thats some pretty serious heat......
And just fyi, it was the MWC that initiated all of this - the little G5 that is a nobody and nobody should pay attention to. Why do think the G5 has a spot in the 12 team? This is part of the reason why. Cuz not every state has a big brand college team, but they do have members of the federal government.
In some cases I think so, like with UGA vs Bama today. It might not mean as much for Bama if they lose since they can still run the table, but if UGA loses (and let's be honest they will), they're out of the playoffs. If they can't beat Bama they won't beat Texas and will go on to lose against Tenn and Ole Miss most likely. So for some teams it's still big, others maybe not so much.
The attention span has shortened.
CFB was the ONLY sports league that didn't have a playoff. Bowl games have always been meaningless exhibition games. The championship should be determined by playoff games and not by corrupt committees.
The in season games mean more now, what the heck are we talking about?
Disagree.
@@anythingthoughanythingthou2453 you gotta win your conference, regular season means everything
you are incorrect it is 300% easier to get in the playoffs now, we will see teams with 3 loses in the playoff so how can that mean the games matter more if you can lose more and still get in?
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These games aren’t meaningless. Why was only 4 teams getting in the playoffs with 5 conferences? It should’ve always been the current format.
1:20 pate referencing the trump assassination most likely
Lmao, why is this a bad thing? We get fantastic football games more often, and people are making it sound like cfb used to be better.
Cause it did
Not really, to much put on Bama and UGA and yet Bama only way back to number #1 is through UGA. Georgia gets many more chances, Texas might be the elephant in the room and don't remember when a team won 2 games against same team in 1 year. Just like 2021, have this game Bama but I bet you want get a championship
Washington vs Oregon