It's very nice summary. Although, as a medium grade SID knowledge nerd: 1. Not resonance. It's more correct to call it "multimode resonant filter" where you can control cutoff and resonance. Also you can combine filter modes (lowpass + highpass etc.) 2. You can mask pulse + tri combined wave with different pulse widths (constant pulse width or PWM) 3. You should have also said that there isn't any "traditional" channel volume control, so the only way is to make shortest attack & decay and use sustain level as volume control
Nice video :) The track you made at the end was great too. :) One thing viewers may not be aware of is that there were two C64 SID chips, although each and every chip sounds a little different. But the two types have some big differences, the 2nd was an attempt to fix flaws in the first. So for composing music the 8580 has more options, although some prefer the sound of the original. I'm 8580 all the way :)
I didn't quite know much about the large difference between revisions with the SID chip at the time, however I did know of the 6581 and 8580 variants. a mistake on my part
fl studio doesn't make chiptune, rather it emulates the sid but does not force the limits that it has on the user. So no, fl studio would not be a good option
Now that I don’t have a PC anymore I’m saving this for when I do so I can try my hand at some tunes (and yes I did comment here before. UA-cam thanos snapped my old account for some reason. I moved here as a result.)
i'm using furnace tracker to make SID music, and some of the percussion refuse to play for some reason. is this a normal quirk of the SID? and if so, is there anyway i can work around it?
@@Joseph_183 in either case it's not the most pleasant, but it's the most user friendly For sid tunes with a Peper export I suggest Goat Tracker Ultra, less user friendly but a lot more powerful
@@CrispsCrispulentactually wait, uh question When I try to put bass (with a filter) and the drums into the same channel, the drums keep the filter, even tho I used the reset filter effect command. (I use deflemask btw)
@@srb2er with deflemask there's no guarantee the filters will turn off. best case is to have the drums use the filters at max cutoff and minimum resonance
Background music is from alloy run
Thanks to acrouzet for letting me use this
The music can be found here ua-cam.com/video/miu4xLcnW8c/v-deo.html
It's very nice summary. Although, as a medium grade SID knowledge nerd:
1. Not resonance. It's more correct to call it "multimode resonant filter" where you can control cutoff and resonance. Also you can combine filter modes (lowpass + highpass etc.)
2. You can mask pulse + tri combined wave with different pulse widths (constant pulse width or PWM)
3. You should have also said that there isn't any "traditional" channel volume control, so the only way is to make shortest attack & decay and use sustain level as volume control
Nice video :) The track you made at the end was great too. :) One thing viewers may not be aware of is that there were two C64 SID chips, although each and every chip sounds a little different. But the two types have some big differences, the 2nd was an attempt to fix flaws in the first. So for composing music the 8580 has more options, although some prefer the sound of the original. I'm 8580 all the way :)
I didn't quite know much about the large difference between revisions with the SID chip at the time, however I did know of the 6581 and 8580 variants. a mistake on my part
@@CrispsCrispulent All good. Great video anyway I enjoyed it :)
This is the best summary / tutorial on the sid's capabilities hands down. Awesome!
thank you!
The song at the end is awesom!
Yes!
fire tutorial 🔥 love the sound design breakdown
Awesome summary, especially with the added visuals. Thanks a lot for this 😀👍
np!
Thank you, great insight into how the oscillators were traditionally used. I'm going to try this all out in Vital tomorrow
you can try the same stuff on programs like Furnace or Goat Tracker Ultra
Nice little overview of the SID’s capabilities.
Thank u!
Oh my gosh I watched your videos ages ago as I was getting into pico8! So glad to see you’re still around!
@@NALTOdeluxe cheers man. Yes I’m still here. :)
Got some new videos in the pipeline too which I’ll get round to once I get some free time!
@@inphanta well I’ve definitely subscribed because I don’t want to miss them. :)
Pretty helpful and interesting. Nice work, and thanks!
Np
Impressive, thanks !
Np :]
Yeah tell em
Thank you, it was really helpful!
Np
But how :D The User Manual gives you like 10 lines of visual basic to make a single beep
But how do u actually do it? Do u draw the lines by hand?
the oscilloscope visuals are done via Corrscope
@@CrispsCrispulent oki, and the sound is made with a tracker app right?
yes, the music is made with a tracker@@akioasakura3624
@@CrispsCrispulent oki thank u for this tutorial sir 🙏🙏
np@@akioasakura3624
fl studio.......
fl studio doesn't make chiptune, rather it emulates the sid but does not force the limits that it has on the user.
So no, fl studio would not be a good option
@@CrispsCrispulent So what software do I use to make c64 music?
@@Joseph_183 there is Goat Tracker Ultra, Deflemask and Furnace which are good options
@@CrispsCrispulent What software did you use to make the examples?
@@Joseph_183 Deflemask
i’m confused the video explain feature of the sound chip but how can I compose song ? do I need to write code or is there a software we can use ?
There's programs out there to be able to make music for the C64 such as Deflemask and GoatTracker
@@CrispsCrispulent
Finally does it work for windows?
@@almariozambra9670 both those programs are available on windows. but I'd personally recommend Furnace or Goat Tracker Ultra for making SID music
Sidwizard for c64 is amazing!
What did they use back in the day
super cool music at the end. can we find it somewhere?
the music is exclusive to the video
I LOVE C64 👍🥂🎩
I can imaging you'll make pretty good depeche mode covers
great!
Now that I don’t have a PC anymore I’m saving this for when I do so I can try my hand at some tunes (and yes I did comment here before. UA-cam thanos snapped my old account for some reason. I moved here as a result.)
Very nice! You put a lot into 7minutes. Thanks!
thank you!
i'm using furnace tracker to make SID music, and some of the percussion refuse to play for some reason. is this a normal quirk of the SID? and if so, is there anyway i can work around it?
Because of the ADSR of the sid bring weird sometimes the first waveform doesn't play when it should
@@CrispsCrispulent ah, so it is normal. but is there a way i can work around it?
@@RealYokoeRei best you can do is make an empty waveform before the rest of the waveform macro
@@CrispsCrispulent it works, thanks man!
can you make how to make the sounds in deflemask ? (video tutorial with the software)
I personally don't use deflemask, and instead use furnace which does what defle does but much better, has more chips and is FOSS
@@CrispsCrispulent so... make music SID in furnace is better and good experience ?
@@Joseph_183 in either case it's not the most pleasant, but it's the most user friendly
For sid tunes with a Peper export I suggest Goat Tracker Ultra, less user friendly but a lot more powerful
Nice vid
Yes, I got answers for some questions. Very informative video.
Np
holy mother of pearls!
It was very usefull! Thank yuo very much! And the music is great!
Np, and thank you!
I really love SID music since the 80's.
Awesome tutorial. Well done 😊
Aaaaaay thank you!
What tracker do you use?
For the C64 there's a few tools out there. Personally, I use furnace for one off songs and Goat Tracker Ultra for games
this is probably one of the most useful tutorials I have ever seen
thx for making this ;)
np
@@CrispsCrispulentactually wait, uh question
When I try to put bass (with a filter) and the drums into the same channel, the drums keep the filter, even tho I used the reset filter effect command.
(I use deflemask btw)
@@srb2er with deflemask there's no guarantee the filters will turn off. best case is to have the drums use the filters at max cutoff and minimum resonance
@@CrispsCrispulent k
What you didn't tell us is that you're using machine language not basic.