you can ALWAYS tell when a video is made in the 60s. There will be thin strips of colorful wavy shapes with geometric lines everywhere. The "technicolor" vibes. Plus the music has to have marimbas and xylophones, throw some sax with trombones and tubas front and center.
I really enjoy the old time videos you make love seeing something like the light 💡 bulb from what it use to be to the mid 50s please keep the old ones coming and we will watch them all.
Nice. I grew up in a Phelps Dodge copper town (open pit). My dad worked in the lab and when I got out of high school, I worked at the mine in the pit and the mill for a couple years. The gold and silver recovered from the refining process paid for the operation and copper was pure profit. That has all changed - at least in the US. I remember the train leaving once a week to take the copper ingots to the refinery in El Paso. Thousands of the ingots every week.
My dad worked at Magma Copper Co. in San Manuel, AZ for over 20 years. I only ever got to see the open pit mine and the underground mine. Never did see the crusher, smelter, or refinery. Thanks to this video I now have a better idea of what it was like where he worked. I still remember back to when I was a kid and from where we lived we could see the glowing molten hot ribbons of slag being poured at night. I still wonder why that Iron wasn’t used for steel production, though.
Looking up the Wiki on Arizona Copper, the numerous Labor Strikes and attendant violence, posse's, mass arrests and deportations to other states is an eye opener. I moved to Arizona in late 85'. I recall reading of the Morenci strike.
Who and how in the heck did people ever get the ideas to invent all the machines it takes to make color coated wires miles long and braded even to the smallest diameters???? Amazing people! And the knowledge just keeps getting better just like in the Book of Daniel - Time of increased knowledge so much that man will never be able to slow down the pace again! Vicious cycles.
Lack of industrial education is one of the major failures of the modern public school system. Young American school students should be required to understand the processes necessary to maintain and advance our exceptional standard of living. Understanding the unpleasantness that is endemic to such processes will help explain why many such industrial processes have been exported beyond the authority of the Congress, IRS, EPA, OSHA, EEOC, Unions and environmental/anti-business organizations.
Mostly engineers. Other specialists have a hand in perfecting the processes but firms that specialize in the production of metal refining equipment employ their engineers to design machinery and equipment that can meet the requirements of the client (material to be processed, purity of output product, reliability) and be reasonably if not competitively priced. Then the design must be translated into actual equipment which then relies on their internal blue collar workforce as well as the many subcontractors all with their own engineers and blue collar workforce.
💚💚💚💚 bookmark/notes mining outline underneath that road sign underground pattern 👾💻 , toad flotation concentrations , silicon crab grab on the iron , oxygen on the sulfur for the removal to get that pure froth copper ….. 21:30 disco flow flow ect….tbc…..-g-b, bot
So in 1962 at least, rock adjacent to ore and slag are discarded, we are told. We aren't told their destination. No doubt about it, the copper industry is a messy one, hopefully less so from year to year.
Its yet another major environmental disaster. I'm moving to the far northern portion of Michigans UP and a century ago copper mining was the main / only industry ( other than some logging ) . What has been left behind is an environmental, economical, disaster. The " discarded rock " was simply dumped into Lake Superior.
@@matthewh117 well I did move up here last July. And the few inland lakes are an EPA SUPERFUND site. All of the "tailings" as the mining companies labeled them, were simply disguarded into the lakes. (It's what's left behind after they smash the rock and use arsenic to extract the copper) .
@@davidgarris2513 No not all the tailings where dumped into Lake Superior. When passing over the bridge in Houghton to the Right is where they had a set up yes and shipping. Pre 1900 they where mining lots of Iron Ore in Marquette Area and dont forget silver and Gold...
Apparently it comes from alchemy, it's no longer used and no idea why they used it here. Iron is the one with the male symbol just in case you were wondering.
Copper is only going to get a lot more expensive, take a look at the 'energy' required to retrieve and process the ore, enormous, that was not a problem in the 50's and 60's but in 2022 and beyond that will be a serious issue to contend with. Energy from here on out is going to be used sparingly you can be sure so recycling is going to move to forefront. Notice also that processing releases a significant amount of CO2, not good!
My great grandfather was a PD man. Phelps Dodge paid him well enough to by a house that is still in the family. Unfortunately, my generation of men from my county, unlike our forefathers did not have an opportunity to work for a well-paying company that was famous for taking care of the communities in which they operate, largely because of false information pushed by environmentalist and the EPA.
Rubbish. The ecological damage from these mines and smelters will last for centuries. Tens of thousands of abandoned mines spewing untreated heavy-metal-laced water into streams. Smelters spewed gargantuan amounts of pollution - my FIL worked as a manager in some of the smelters and he had horror stories of the half-assed, no-effs-given attitudes of the companies. And in the southwest, huge amounts of scarce water are sucked up. Good news is many of these practices have been regulated out of existence and new mine plans are much more detailed.
@@ArthurDentZaphodBeeb Rubbish... what part? Are you claiming the company didn't pay him well? The house isn't in the family? Did I say, it was completely devoid of adverse ecological impact?
@@ArthurDentZaphodBeeb Also, Phelps Dodge, which was bought out by FreePortMacMoran, was not the only mining company in the west. Phelps Dodge, did utilize modern pollution control systems in there smelters. Consider this: Mining, is absolutely necessary for the modern life we have. That includes, whatever device you used to try and counter me.
I know exactly what your saying. They have stock piles of this stuff somewhere Michigan had the Quincy pre 1900. C.L. Phelps middles school in my town. Also a Bell Hospital....
I love these old educational and promotional films, but this one has such a cockamamy sound track, as though the makers are trying to match the visual actions with the soundtrack, like Disney’s Fantasia, but in this case it just didn’t work, it’s just damn annoying. Sorry P.F, this one gets a thumbs down, not for your work, but for the crazy musical score. 👎😔🇬🇧🏴
the sound track is something else. Love these old films
YEAH😃
And it helps tell the story , un like the new videos of today !
Same here! I was expecting King Kong to pop up during the pit mining scenes to fight the digger "dinosaurs"!
Agreed. So compelling, for a common industrial process.
I love these videos. There something so satisfying about watching the melting, forming/casting and refining of metals we use in our day to day lives
you can ALWAYS tell when a video is made in the 60s. There will be thin strips of colorful wavy shapes with geometric lines everywhere. The "technicolor" vibes. Plus the music has to have marimbas and xylophones, throw some sax with trombones and tubas front and center.
Plenty of brass in the soundtrack, as there should be in a film about copper!
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As always, thank you...especially since I have been sitting at home.
I really enjoy the old time videos you make love seeing something like the light 💡 bulb from what it use to be to the mid 50s please keep the old ones coming and we will watch them all.
Nice. I grew up in a Phelps Dodge copper town (open pit). My dad worked in the lab and when I got out of high school, I worked at the mine in the pit and the mill for a couple years. The gold and silver recovered from the refining process paid for the operation and copper was pure profit. That has all changed - at least in the US. I remember the train leaving once a week to take the copper ingots to the refinery in El Paso. Thousands of the ingots every week.
Former ASARCO tankhouse and PM guy here - not a bad film, The anode caster and wire bar caster looked very familiar.
@@HiwasseeRiver Yup, I recall it was jokingly referred to as "the wheel of fortune". Myself, I worked on the tapping floor.
That has been the normal run as a copper mine and all the gold and silver is profit... They Literally All run together.....
Torriodial doughnut of copper being Spun on the Loom... Quincy Copper mine pre 1900. R.R. 17 Calumet Michigan. Love these films....
My dad worked at Magma Copper Co. in San Manuel, AZ for over 20 years. I only ever got to see the open pit mine and the underground mine. Never did see the crusher, smelter, or refinery. Thanks to this video I now have a better idea of what it was like where he worked.
I still remember back to when I was a kid and from where we lived we could see the glowing molten hot ribbons of slag being poured at night. I still wonder why that Iron wasn’t used for steel production, though.
The Japanese make toys out of it😁
im pretty sure the slag will one day be seen as a useful ore at some future date
Thanks Periscope! Good video and the music was over the top and down the other side but it was an old one. Thanks again!
The music from 9:45-11:05 is perfect! Note the subtle descending bassoon lines as the two packages of explosives are dropped down the holes.
Looking up the Wiki on Arizona Copper, the numerous Labor Strikes and attendant violence, posse's, mass arrests and deportations to other states is an eye opener. I moved to Arizona in late 85'. I recall reading of the Morenci strike.
Reminds me of my days in the copper mines of Geber...there was a tough gig..
Cool 😭⏬
Who and how in the heck did people ever get the ideas to invent all the machines it takes to make color coated wires miles long and braded even to the smallest diameters???? Amazing people! And the knowledge just keeps getting better just like in the Book of Daniel - Time of increased knowledge so much that man will never be able to slow down the pace again! Vicious cycles.
Man … MST3K really missed out on these gems. I demand these films be riffed!
That score is rockin, yo
Can you imagine a world without copper?
It's called Africa
That's a Hamilton 950E Railroad-grade pocketwatch, if anyone wondered.
My dad worked for decades for Phelps Dodge. Quite a number of plants in the northeast, Habirshaw, Bayway, South Brunswick.
Lack of industrial education is one of the major failures of the modern public school system. Young American school students should be required to understand the processes necessary to maintain and advance our exceptional standard of living. Understanding the unpleasantness that is endemic to such processes will help explain why many such industrial processes have been exported beyond the authority of the Congress, IRS, EPA, OSHA, EEOC, Unions and environmental/anti-business organizations.
Those titles and motion graphics are very Saul Bass.
How geologists ever figured out how to find the stuff, or any metal underground always amazes me! Or especially oil under the ocean floor!
The Keweenaw peninsula has solid copper in the ground. 99.9 percent pure and pieces as big as busses were and are found
Yes Sir Calumet Michigan pre 1900 the Quincey Mine Railroad 17. Same players for years....
What an involved and long process-- who thinks up this stuff??! Let alone the machines to do it.
Physicists, chemists, engineers.
Amazing how far we can push this monkey brain of ours, from banging rocks to extracting copper from rocks.
Mostly engineers. Other specialists have a hand in perfecting the processes but firms that specialize in the production of metal refining equipment employ their engineers to design machinery and equipment that can meet the requirements of the client (material to be processed, purity of output product, reliability) and be reasonably if not competitively priced. Then the design must be translated into actual equipment which then relies on their internal blue collar workforce as well as the many subcontractors all with their own engineers and blue collar workforce.
That’s why it was worth it to pick up a copper penny.
Amancing operation.how many.tons a day.this is a reai 0peration.I know much
about Kennecoth amd Anaconda.
Think about how much energy this takes
Love these
💚💚💚💚 bookmark/notes mining outline underneath that road sign underground pattern 👾💻 , toad flotation concentrations , silicon crab grab on the iron , oxygen on the sulfur for the removal to get that pure froth copper ….. 21:30 disco flow flow ect….tbc…..-g-b, bot
r/ihadastroke
So in 1962 at least, rock adjacent to ore and slag are discarded, we are told. We aren't told their destination. No doubt about it, the copper industry is a messy one, hopefully less so from year to year.
Its yet another major environmental disaster. I'm moving to the far northern portion of Michigans UP and a century ago copper mining was the main / only industry ( other than some logging ) . What has been left behind is an environmental, economical, disaster. The " discarded rock " was simply dumped into Lake Superior.
Slag is mainly carbon. Nothing to see here, folks!
@@davidgarris2513 Mother Earth weeps
@@matthewh117 well I did move up here last July. And the few inland lakes are an EPA SUPERFUND site. All of the "tailings" as the mining companies labeled them, were simply disguarded into the lakes. (It's what's left behind after they smash the rock and use arsenic to extract the copper) .
@@davidgarris2513 No not all the tailings where dumped into Lake Superior. When passing over the bridge in Houghton to the Right is where they had a set up yes and shipping. Pre 1900 they where mining lots of Iron Ore in Marquette Area and dont forget silver and Gold...
If the composer for this film didn’t work for Irwin Allen at some point .. he REALLY missed his calling!.
These are the shows we watched in science class. We actually learned something back then, now its brain washing.
I agree about Fox
So true. Public education today is political indoctrination.
That kind of comment is gonna get a OK Boomer real quick.
That statement is intentionally false, otherwise it is ignorance. Which do you prefer?
@@michaelcooney9368 That kind of statement is going to receive a correction, it is a 'an' comment.
Morenci smelter?
Looks like it. The surface mine is undeniably Morenci.
I guarantee you, alot of the views are from people who played alot of Minecraft and are looking for inspiration
If you work in a mine I feel bad for you son.
I got 99 problems but silicosis ain't one.
why the feminine symbol is used for copper?
Apparently it comes from alchemy, it's no longer used and no idea why they used it here.
Iron is the one with the male symbol just in case you were wondering.
It's the mirror of Venus, also a symbol for the planet. (I know I haven't answered your question.)
"...hidden in the deep reaches of space." Back, from whence it came.
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Genesis 4:22 “forger of all instruments of bronze and iron”. You can’t get much older than Genesis...
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$2.00 a pound #1 bright scrap price as of today !
$3.75 today
There's a finish plant in Norwich CT I use to deliver the finished copper rod product to the various companies around the east coast
Hells ya
Copper is only going to get a lot more expensive, take a look at the 'energy' required to retrieve and process the ore, enormous, that was not a problem in the 50's and 60's but in 2022 and beyond that will be a serious issue to contend with. Energy from here on out is going to be used sparingly you can be sure so recycling is going to move to forefront. Notice also that processing releases a significant amount of CO2, not good!
Copper county is in my home state
Bugs Bunny meets Twilight Zone meets documentary, crazy
Where's the girl?
Normal copper is exactly like my ex wife. Expensive, even though it's just a common ore, and whole teams of men drilled her regularly.
Dat original score. Wew
Funny how the guys are just showing up to work and they already look filthy.
All the shit pumped out of the stacks of those smelters. No effs given.
Why did i click on this video?
It is disconcerting to see so much waste/inefficiency at every step.
Me too. It's still like that!
@@kenmore01 That surprises me. I expected they would have developed better ways by now.
I guess the cost analysis doesn't justify making improvements.
Wait until you see lithium mining.
Copper's a feminist.
My great grandfather was a PD man. Phelps Dodge paid him well enough to by a house that is still in the family.
Unfortunately, my generation of men from my county, unlike our forefathers did not have an opportunity to work for a well-paying company that was famous for taking care of the communities in which they operate, largely because of false information pushed by environmentalist and the EPA.
Rubbish. The ecological damage from these mines and smelters will last for centuries. Tens of thousands of abandoned mines spewing untreated heavy-metal-laced water into streams. Smelters spewed gargantuan amounts of pollution - my FIL worked as a manager in some of the smelters and he had horror stories of the half-assed, no-effs-given attitudes of the companies. And in the southwest, huge amounts of scarce water are sucked up. Good news is many of these practices have been regulated out of existence and new mine plans are much more detailed.
@@ArthurDentZaphodBeeb Rubbish... what part? Are you claiming the company didn't pay him well?
The house isn't in the family?
Did I say, it was completely devoid of adverse ecological impact?
@@ArthurDentZaphodBeeb Also, Phelps Dodge, which was bought out by FreePortMacMoran, was not the only mining company in the west.
Phelps Dodge, did utilize modern pollution control systems in there smelters.
Consider this: Mining, is absolutely necessary for the modern life we have.
That includes, whatever device you used to try and counter me.
@@ArthurDentZaphodBeeb And who did your "FIL" work for?
I know exactly what your saying. They have stock piles of this stuff somewhere Michigan had the Quincy pre 1900. C.L. Phelps middles school in my town. Also a Bell Hospital....
I love these old educational and promotional films, but this one has such a cockamamy sound track, as though the makers are trying to match the visual actions with the soundtrack, like Disney’s Fantasia, but in this case it just didn’t work, it’s just damn annoying. Sorry P.F, this one gets a thumbs down, not for your work, but for the crazy musical score. 👎😔🇬🇧🏴
Poor quality sound tracks don't bother those of us who are hearing impaired. We just go the cc route.
You're an idiot. It's called orchestration. It's supposed to match the visuals. This is how it was done before computers.
What do you expect from old American documentaries