KBF is one to watch for 2026! Brilliant mind! Hopefully he can keep up pace. He’s spot on about everything. Kingmaker turned formidable force!! ZMP indeed!
Great Conversation Amb Mwamba and also Ba KBF. Very Informative. These type of conversations help us understand our country and leaders better Keep the conversations Coming.
Amb Emmanuel Mwamba.This was a very rich conversation .I looked at the duration of 3hrs plus and wondered what the content would be initially..I must say, enough respect to both of you and many thanks to Counsel and Leadership in Kelvin Bwalya Fube for these lovely honest discussion /insight with no fear or favour.Very interesting .I have listened to this twice now and yes ,am inspired.
Awesome history, it’s easy now to see where politics and part of our politicians came from and how they got into power. We need such kind of people to air their views on our country and democracy
What Mr. Mwanawasa did was right, the man had integrity. A wrong is a wrong, it doesn't matter who does it, no one is above the law. If you are going to treat the presidents as special people then you are wrong.
KBF is a very good at conversations.I like the Mufulira part of his life because all the places he has mentioned are like that.Butondo is out of town,Jomo Kenyatta avenue is on the other side of town.ku town after top shops.
I see one thing with this man, he puts himself so highly. With all the Presidents who left him behind, he could have wanted higher positions, then the frustrations.
So KBF had 1 or 2 positive things to say about all the Presidents but HH? I think there's more than meets the eye (ear in this case). All in all it's been a nice interview. One thing though is that EM being PF, his line of questioning will always gravitate towards what favors his party, he has a moral and political duty to do so. Great initiative EM if you ask me I just pray I won't be blocked here too...
The Conversation podcast is as good as reading a memoir on these figures. I am glad this is documented for posterity. I care very little about the usual politicking by guests when they review Zambia's Presidents from KK to HH. But everything before that, for all guests so far is historical gold and we are blessed to have access.
In the first place, the African presidents must not steal. That way, injury and insult can be avoided! The office of the president will always be brought into disrupt if the office steals from public funds
From this interview I only heard Bemba names apart from ECL. I just got a picture on how people play with the nation and misuse the resources of the people of Zambia. I can never vote for this Man. These power hungry behaviours can never happen in a corrupt free country. The interview depicts a Sale of self glory. I’m happy that you were loyal to Mr. SATA. Otherwise no nation interest mubantu aba. He does not love Zambia, he rather be the top man that’s why he rejected the offer. Ukuitemwa. Otherwise he could be serving his nation. If you are not wise you will find my comment offensive. Becareful of that calmness
I heard: 1. Nalumino mundia 2. Laura miti 3. Azwell Banda 4. Hakainde Hichilema 5. Guy Scott 6. Winter kabimba (Toka leya) 7. Bob sichinga (Tumbuka from miyombe) 8. Given lubinda 9. Levy mwanawasa 10. VJ mwaanga 11. Inonge wina 12. Kanganja 13. Lesley mbula 14. Simon miti 15. Rupiah Banda 16. Kaizer Zulu 17. Sylvia masebo 18. Jakaya kikwete 19. Obasanjo 20. Ruben kamanga These are just the names I heard off memory. Am sure, they could be double this number, but it seems odd that you remembered only bemba names apart from ECL. The reason you are hearing of so many bembas is that they are very active. In football, in music and certainly in politics. Right now we have a lot of Tongas and lozis who are politically active and in prominent position. If Gilbert liswaniso, the upnd youth chairman also had to give his experience around the election of HH, you shall hear a lot of Lozi, Tonga and northwestern names.
@@Marty278 go and hear again. You heard, but did not understand. Those people you are mentioning mostly are civil servants not politicians E. G my uncle Late J. S Kanganja. Go and of the names in the Zambian drama of wanting to hold on to power by all means. Anyway i rest my case
@@realitycorner3365 what you said was that, apart from ecl all you could hear from the interview were bemba names, that was incorrect, because he did mention a ton of people who were non bemba and No the majority of them were NOT civil servants. Mrs wins was not, guy Scott was not, Laura miti was not, winter kabimba was not, vj mwaanga was a politician, levy mwanawasa was a private practicing lawyer and politician, rupiah was a diplomat and republican president. So who else are you calling a civil servant apart from kanganja and Dr miti? Two people only, then you dare to call the MOST in a list of 20 names. Then you rest your case. Are you OK, my friend??
Ugh! Listening to this just makes me more disgusted with these politicians. What's even more disappointing is seeing comments from people who actually enjoyed this nonsense. They're nothing but crooks.
Kbf, kalaba, hh, meembe, are thee few we have educted by kk and these are the only ones that we can start giving leadership roles,,free education made these to be what they are,, went to zns and saw how kk built zambia,,,,form 5s nit grades,, who are failing to do quality roads and bridges and water and electricity shortage,, its all ba grade grade grade ,aome and majority fails to speak good english language
Alot of bad things are said about HH but to my surprise,this is the only time hospital grants are coming on time and not erratic,our napsa contributions from 2020 are only being paid now,so i really wonder why you try to paint such a bad picture,he may not be perfect but this is deep rooted hate for someone. I think KBF thought he would dribble the village boy to no avail.He says he came from the copperbelt and HH from the village in a very condescending way. I agree with what he says about population being very vital to economical development however,many families can barely take care of the few children that they have so this is debatable.
Other thant the good English and stories , nothing tangible or substance from KBF both in terms of critics or solutions...and shocking that he sees Sata as a visionary given how he dismantled the economy MMD left us
@henrysilungwe4821 BUT ITS NOT POSSIBLE THAT EVERYTHING ABOUT HH IS ALL NEGATIVE . free education Skills training even to grade 7. Enhanced CDF . Equitable CDF . Tribally balanced cabinet Reduced cadressm and political violence. Debt restructuring. Reopened Mines and more investments in Mines. Chief palaces building. Unity among chiefs attending and supporting each other ceremonies . No tribal hate speech like under your pf . Nothing or little violence during by elections compared to blood bath under pf . Am no surpoter of upnd but that's the truth
I am now looking at KBF differently, quite impressive.
Best interview with a politician I have ever listened to.
Me too.....our own MCF's sobriety and intelligence blows my mind❤
me too it is the best interview i have ever listened to, for it's the fourth time
This should be a book.
KBF is one to watch for 2026! Brilliant mind! Hopefully he can keep up pace. He’s spot on about everything. Kingmaker turned formidable force!! ZMP indeed!
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Thank you for this well articulated knowledge ba KBF. Very important information of our national political history.
kbf you are brilliant. i will support you come 2026. you ve my vote
This is quite terrific❤
I have enjoyed the interview. KBF that is a very rich background.
Excellent interview Kelvin. A good perspective on Mufulira and Zambia. Kudos to Ambassador Mwamba for this sober podcast.
Mwaboni bafube.
Very Insightful interview.
The best interview by far..thanks ba Mwamba. Job well done.
KBF is a kings maker. Great interview
Great Conversation Amb Mwamba and also Ba KBF.
Very Informative.
These type of conversations help us understand our country and leaders better
Keep the conversations Coming.
This is very insightful and worth engaging with KBF
Amb Emmanuel Mwamba.This was a very rich conversation .I looked at the duration of 3hrs plus and wondered what the content would be initially..I must say, enough respect to both of you and many thanks to Counsel and Leadership in Kelvin Bwalya Fube for these lovely honest discussion /insight with no fear or favour.Very interesting .I have listened to this twice now and yes ,am inspired.
This is history being recorded! Thanks Ambassador for this conversation... KBF the kingmaker
One of the best so far
This history needs to be in a book. Kbf is knowledgeable it must be shared, I found it very interesting to learn about our political history
This interview, the winter kabimba, Amos Chanda interview and the nkandu luo interview are my favourites
Best interview ever. This is a piece of history well told
You are a Presidential Maker Mr KBF.✍️
I have loved this interview,nice and rich background God Bless
This was a beautiful interview, I look at KBF differently.
this is the best interview so far on this podcast ba mwamba no interjections he really enjoyed also
Brilliant conversation Amb. Mwamba
Brilliant interview.
Rich information.
kbf he is well spoken , good break down
KBF you have my vote🫡🫡 very intelligent old man
Brilliant Interview so insightful. Ambassador Emmanuel Mwamba keep it up and kudos to ba KBF
My president 💯❤❤
I have always liked KBF, Muf at its best!👌🏾👌🏾
Awesome history, it’s easy now to see where politics and part of our politicians came from and how they got into power. We need such kind of people to air their views on our country and democracy
Mufulira born too, I started nursery at St jones too...enjoyed this....abena milambo
What Mr. Mwanawasa did was right, the man had integrity. A wrong is a wrong, it doesn't matter who does it, no one is above the law. If you are going to treat the presidents as special people then you are wrong.
I agree 💯
Great one....I enjoy the not so long ago political history.....next Dickson Jere
Ranks among the very best interviews. Can you try to interview other presidents as well.
Let's market KBF for President please
Based on what?
Definitely someone to consider come 2026.
KBF is a very good at conversations.I like the Mufulira part of his life because all the places he has mentioned are like that.Butondo is out of town,Jomo Kenyatta avenue is on the other side of town.ku town after top shops.
Am impressed and proud of kbf
Learnt a lot,,,,,, nice!
I see one thing with this man, he puts himself so highly. With all the Presidents who left him behind, he could have wanted higher positions, then the frustrations.
I like KBF
Great conversation Ambassador EM with KBF
efo ba musendele sylvia, nelyashi lyapwa!!! great interview from KBF
Great interview and insightful
Interesting and insightful conversation
I enjoyed this interview..
What a brain KBF has. Wow wow wow!!!
Sir am enjoying this please and don't forget to tell every invited guests to tell us about they background. Next we want see ECL please
"In 1972, when nixon struck that deal for oil to be sold in dollars, we tumbled". What a great orator this man is. Excellent interview
What an interview explosive and insightful 🎉
This is great content that you are giving to us ba Mwamba
Put it in a book.
Muf has produced a lot of prominent people eh.
Very insightful
Watching from Mufulira. Proud Muf Boy
Very interesting conversation
What a man!
I could watch/listen to KBF all day. Great podcast. 👏🏿👏🏿
Ps: Just work on the volume please.
We have a business man in the state house and very selfish.
I'm asking if you can bring ba Richard Sakala. I want to learn more about FTJ
This is interesting
Great interview. I've struggled with the volume/sound, it was rather low.
KBF is intelligent
Two great sons of the soil.
He has decorated himself very well. See how in each and every story he is the starring. Not a single mistake 😂😂.
So KBF had 1 or 2 positive things to say about all the Presidents but HH? I think there's more than meets the eye (ear in this case).
All in all it's been a nice interview. One thing though is that EM being PF, his line of questioning will always gravitate towards what favors his party, he has a moral and political duty to do so.
Great initiative EM if you ask me I just pray I won't be blocked here too...
That's not true. He conveyed all his interactions with all the Presidents as cordial. The negatives alike.
@@nsandulamunsele4698 I must have missed all the positives he said about HH then, maybe it's in another discussion...
Rich history KBF I like you did not know we need you in UKA
KBF has a vision and a Future President of the Country - Even though he will need to be on a big ticket party.
Zambia Must Prosper Indeed.
You did not mention the tribally inclined appointment of the PF pioneered by top leadership.
Next you should feature Mark Simuwe and Oliver Shalala
Unfortunately some people are meant to be king makers and not kings.
He's equally not to be trusted . Don't fall for his angelic portrait he's putting on himself..
right on!
He is just sweet talking us also.😂
Stanton Lakes
Ba KBF is always the staring in all elections.😅😅😅😅
If you also watched the Bob Sichinga episode like this post... If you haven't please I highly recommend it.
Sydnie Island
The Conversation podcast is as good as reading a memoir on these figures. I am glad this is documented for posterity. I care very little about the usual politicking by guests when they review Zambia's Presidents from KK to HH. But everything before that, for all guests so far is historical gold and we are blessed to have access.
I think its stupid for the man to say he saw no vision in hh but still went on to campaign for his party. Bitterness is what he has.
I think this is too long for a podcast make is atleast less than 2 hrs
We don't need ECL to be in politics.
In the first place, the African presidents must not steal. That way, injury and insult can be avoided! The office of the president will always be brought into disrupt if the office steals from public funds
Very insightful. This is whole lot or a biography of KBF. Another masterpiece interview.
Why isn't this a book?
Wolff Creek
From this interview I only heard Bemba names apart from ECL. I just got a picture on how people play with the nation and misuse the resources of the people of Zambia. I can never vote for this Man. These power hungry behaviours can never happen in a corrupt free country. The interview depicts a Sale of self glory. I’m happy that you were loyal to Mr. SATA. Otherwise no nation interest mubantu aba. He does not love Zambia, he rather be the top man that’s why he rejected the offer. Ukuitemwa. Otherwise he could be serving his nation. If you are not wise you will find my comment offensive. Becareful of that calmness
I choose not to be wise.😂
@@DaddyTrinity101 it's because you are bemba
I heard:
1. Nalumino mundia
2. Laura miti
3. Azwell Banda
4. Hakainde Hichilema
5. Guy Scott
6. Winter kabimba (Toka leya)
7. Bob sichinga (Tumbuka from miyombe)
8. Given lubinda
9. Levy mwanawasa
10. VJ mwaanga
11. Inonge wina
12. Kanganja
13. Lesley mbula
14. Simon miti
15. Rupiah Banda
16. Kaizer Zulu
17. Sylvia masebo
18. Jakaya kikwete
19. Obasanjo
20. Ruben kamanga
These are just the names I heard off memory. Am sure, they could be double this number, but it seems odd that you remembered only bemba names apart from ECL.
The reason you are hearing of so many bembas is that they are very active. In football, in music and certainly in politics.
Right now we have a lot of Tongas and lozis who are politically active and in prominent position.
If Gilbert liswaniso, the upnd youth chairman also had to give his experience around the election of HH, you shall hear a lot of Lozi, Tonga and northwestern names.
@@Marty278 go and hear again. You heard, but did not understand. Those people you are mentioning mostly are civil servants not politicians E. G my uncle Late J. S Kanganja. Go and of the names in the Zambian drama of wanting to hold on to power by all means. Anyway i rest my case
@@realitycorner3365 what you said was that, apart from ecl all you could hear from the interview were bemba names, that was incorrect, because he did mention a ton of people who were non bemba and No the majority of them were NOT civil servants. Mrs wins was not, guy Scott was not, Laura miti was not, winter kabimba was not, vj mwaanga was a politician, levy mwanawasa was a private practicing lawyer and politician, rupiah was a diplomat and republican president.
So who else are you calling a civil servant apart from kanganja and Dr miti? Two people only, then you dare to call the MOST in a list of 20 names. Then you rest your case. Are you OK, my friend??
Why would you help someone you clearly claim had no plan? -what does that make you?
Jovany Skyway
Ugh! Listening to this just makes me more disgusted with these politicians. What's even more disappointing is seeing comments from people who actually enjoyed this nonsense. They're nothing but crooks.
Kbf, kalaba, hh, meembe, are thee few we have educted by kk and these are the only ones that we can start giving leadership roles,,free education made these to be what they are,, went to zns and saw how kk built zambia,,,,form 5s nit grades,, who are failing to do quality roads and bridges and water and electricity shortage,, its all ba grade grade grade ,aome and majority fails to speak good english language
Tia Mountain
Alot of bad things are said about HH but to my surprise,this is the only time hospital grants are coming on time and not erratic,our napsa contributions from 2020 are only being paid now,so i really wonder why you try to paint such a bad picture,he may not be perfect but this is deep rooted hate for someone.
I think KBF thought he would dribble the village boy to no avail.He says he came from the copperbelt and HH from the village in a very condescending way.
I agree with what he says about population being very vital to economical development however,many families can barely take care of the few children that they have so this is debatable.
KBF for president ? Because we can’t go back to any ex guys😂 spinning the block never works!
Other thant the good English and stories , nothing tangible or substance from KBF both in terms of critics or solutions...and shocking that he sees Sata as a visionary given how he dismantled the economy MMD left us
Your video is too lengthy as one episode, better you segment it into more that one part. Maximum a part shouldn't exceed 60minutes
Kick him out we see about that ba fube
Not a single minute of this conversation was a waste!
Mafken product
Did he really call the conviction of Chitotela and Chilangwa a travesty? Anyway its KBF what do you expect
What an interview explosive and insightful 🎉
@henrysilungwe4821 BUT ITS NOT POSSIBLE THAT EVERYTHING ABOUT HH IS ALL NEGATIVE .
free education
Skills training even to grade 7.
Enhanced CDF .
Equitable CDF .
Tribally balanced cabinet
Reduced cadressm and political violence.
Debt restructuring.
Reopened Mines and more investments in Mines.
Chief palaces building.
Unity among chiefs attending and supporting each other ceremonies .
No tribal hate speech like under your pf .
Nothing or little violence during by elections compared to blood bath under pf .
Am no surpoter of upnd but that's the truth