@@MrHestichs C Major over Ab in the bass isn't bitonal, it's an augmented chord with a major 7th. A bitonal chord would be, say, C Major over Ab Major, so (from the bottom up) Ab C Em C E G. Bitonality is simply one kind of polytonality where there are only two scales at once.
Vaughan Williams in a letter to Holst: "I liked the old Trio - but always felt that its being in 3 keys was more seen by the eye than felt by the ear. After all, ‘Lovely Venus’ depends a lot on the ‘natural chord’ doesn’t it? I don’t think I like your notation. After all, key signatures are simply a means of avoiding accidentals - isn’t that so? And I believe that on the balance you wd get fewer accidentals by putting a christian key signature - & not, incidentally, make unhappy people like me who try to play them on the pfte permanently cross-eyed."
If you are expecting it to sound like the Planets, then you are probably on the wrong bus! Holst wrote a whole lot of music in a very different style to that famous orchestral work, and this one is really interesting on a compositional level. The skill required to make the polytonality of the three parts "work" is immense. However, I will agree with you that this is a much more interesting piece to play than it is to hear.
@@musik350 Until you actually play the piece. I agree that it may seem aimless to the casual listener, but this piece is deceptively difficult to play, and at the same time an absolute delight to rehearse and perform. There IS an inner logic to the music, but this only becomes apparent with an intimate knowledge of where each of the three parts is going, and how ones own part relates to the other two. I do not deny that this music is going to provide the sort of excitement that can be found in The Planets, but it is far from being a few directionless motifs. That master of counterpoint, J S Bach, may not have enjoyed the tritonality of the piece, but I have no doubt that he would have applauded Holst's extraordinary contrpuntal skill.
Gustav Holst:Terzetto
1.Allegretto 00:00
2.Un poco vivace 07:01
Matthew Featherstone-fuvola
James Turnbull-oboa
Dan Shilladay-brácsa
0:01 Movement I - Allegretto
7:01 Movement II - Un poco vivace
Definitely has that eerie sound to it...
I knew that Holst did bitonality, but TRItonlity??! Now that is interesting.
Then it's called polytonal. Bitonality usually is nomenclature assigned to chords! Like Cmaj/Ab is a bitonal chord. A triad with a base note :)
@@MrHestichs C Major over Ab in the bass isn't bitonal, it's an augmented chord with a major 7th. A bitonal chord would be, say, C Major over Ab Major, so (from the bottom up) Ab C Em C E G. Bitonality is simply one kind of polytonality where there are only two scales at once.
@@lylecohen1638 You could call it that yes. But it also reasonably be analyzed as a triad over a different bass note.
Holst did a whole lot of everything!
Amazing piece
8:10 it’s neat to have each part separated into triplets, eights and quarter notes.
Delightful!
Nice flute playing!
Diamonddogusa too much vibrato though..
Very very nice and interesting!
By god, this was wonderful.
really nice
Reminds me the slightest bit of Milhaud.
Vaughan Williams in a letter to Holst: "I liked the old Trio - but always felt that its being in 3 keys was more seen by the eye than felt by the ear. After all, ‘Lovely Venus’ depends a lot on the ‘natural chord’ doesn’t it? I don’t think I like your notation. After all, key signatures are simply a means of avoiding accidentals - isn’t that so? And I believe that on the balance you wd get fewer accidentals by putting a christian key signature - & not, incidentally, make unhappy people like me who try to play them on the pfte permanently cross-eyed."
The beginning of the oboe's part remind me dvoràk.
The differents keys provide new music or are they just an exercise on enarmony?
Holst was almost an English Charles Ives
I accidentally wrote the intro to this without even hearing it. And like it’s a mind fuck
3:53 bolero?
+Cedric de Saint-Rome Probably not,because this was written in 1925,while Ravel's Bolero in 1928.
+konosxatz1 yea i know i just thought it sounded a lot like it hahaha
it does sound a bit like it.
Just 3 notes.
i'm just gonna leave these here 1:00 5:00
The last note was the most pleasing sound in this whole piece lol
1:03
Wonderful piece. It just needs transposing.
No, they are all in different keys. No transposition occurring.
I really like Holst but I'm not too keen on this one. Sounds like a few directionless motifs cast to the wind(s) in haphazard counterpoint.
Zed O'Haughy i agree
If you are expecting it to sound like the Planets, then you are probably on the wrong bus! Holst wrote a whole lot of music in a very different style to that famous orchestral work, and this one is really interesting on a compositional level. The skill required to make the polytonality of the three parts "work" is immense. However, I will agree with you that this is a much more interesting piece to play than it is to hear.
@@musik350 In their comment to think what? There is nothing haphazard about this music.
@@ericandersen8468 There's nothing interesting either. It's just empty melodic lines without sense
@@musik350 Until you actually play the piece. I agree that it may seem aimless to the casual listener, but this piece is deceptively difficult to play, and at the same time an absolute delight to rehearse and perform. There IS an inner logic to the music, but this only becomes apparent with an intimate knowledge of where each of the three parts is going, and how ones own part relates to the other two. I do not deny that this music is going to provide the sort of excitement that can be found in The Planets, but it is far from being a few directionless motifs. That master of counterpoint, J S Bach, may not have enjoyed the tritonality of the piece, but I have no doubt that he would have applauded Holst's extraordinary contrpuntal skill.
Polytonality if it were less spicy.........
Not liking the viola in this, sorry violists 😕
If all instruments are in C, so why aren't in same ?
Because they are playing in different keys.