My Husband is a BA Captain who does the tricky captains approach on a few times a month. Believe me if the Captain thinks that there is any potential risk to the plane the passengers and the crew they will not land. The sea may look calm but the crosswinds are a nightmare there Safety first at all times
crosswinds are always an issue at that airport from what i hear. basically if it were my cockpit, the general rule would be if you can't set it down after 3 tries the best thing to do would be to land somewhere less windy.
So many aviation experts in the comments section! It's a pretty gusty day, that's plain to see, and Funchal is a short runway with very little room for error. This does not come down to pilot ability.
Annoying but better to have to walk away from a plane in one piece at the wrong airport than end up in a bodybag amonst wreckage at the right airport. I say 10 out of 10 to the pilots for putting their passengers' safety first instead of the airlines balance sheet.
Pilot skill is all it takes, 1000s other ✈️ ✈️ have landed safely in at this airport at first attempt, even during turbulent weather, crosswinds🙄. Only Brits would applaud this
@@suzymoroka297 almost all the crashes during landing are caused by pilots arrogance or bad decision by trying to put the plane down and not doing a go around.
It's a courageous pilot , he doesn't try to make impossible and keep safety condition for all the passenger. It's not a simple choice to decide a toga maneuver. Congratulation for the pilot !!!
As many of you have asked I'll be uploading the successful landing to my channel soon! Thanks for all the wonderful comments :D Will add a link as soon as its up!
GB Airways (BA owned) used to fly into Madeira till about 10 years ago when they sold out to Ezy: Ezy fly in several times a day and can handle the crosswinds which come down two separate valleys which open out at the thresholds of Rwy 05 (this video) and Rwy 23. There are windsocks at each end and one at midpoint of the runway and with offshore winds they can point in opposite directions. Most a/c after second go-around would divert to Porto Santo 20 miles away
Great decision by pilot as I have seen jets land at Madeira almost sideways instead of going around and, as in this case declaring a fuel emergency and refueling at Lisbon. People have to realize that unless the emergency is extreme, airlines are restricted from landing anywhere other than airports assigned to them.. Also they have to take into consideration that the have hundreds of people that may need security separation, accommodations and food and smaller airports are not equipped for that. The tough decisions are always the best.
Wind shear is a major problem for any aircraft during landing. At Madiera it happens when the wind is in the wrong direction which seems to be most of the time and thats why its one of the worlds most difficult airports to land at. That fact that a plane landed before and after is no measure of their skill against the BA pilot as wind shear can vary from second to second, gust to gust. At the end of the dsay all that matters is he landed safely.
Not surprising. Having flown the Funchal approach in X plane, it's a tricky circling approach even in calm winds, but with the cliffs on the left side, it causes quick wind changes.
Theres always those little bastards (kids) who start screaming, its even worse in turbulence everyone in the plane screams, im normally sat there laughing at them haha
+Razorkidz434 British Airways are pretty inexperienced since this route was only recently re-opened this summer. While TAP and Easy fly here on a daily basis for some time, therefore they have some more experience. I believe you diverted to Lisbon because it would be easier for BA to manage crews as they fly LHR-LIS so extra crew could be accommodate to continue the flight.
+Razorkidz434 I see but the winds at Madeira are very random. One day it could be calm with practically no wind while on the next day winds could be at 25+ knots with gusts and so on.. And since most BA pilots are new to Madeira they would not wish to risk it as much.
+aviationchannel2010 may have been some mechanical malfunction not visible to the camera...the weather sure looked good..not seeing any flex in the wing or side to side wobble in the plane....the sea looked calm, no white caps at all....unless the wind direction did a complete 180 shift or the wind shear warning activated , I am not sure why the landing aborted ...wish we could hear the pilot / ATC audio of what happened....
PhilDG I thought there was ILS at Madeira? Or am I thinking Porto santo? Either way, landing 05 must be a tricky one, a sharp right turn straight into landing. Add a bit of wind sheer for squeaky bum time.
Think that is scary. My planes wing tip hit the runway while landing in Vegas. The plane ahead of us had 3 ambulances around it. Needless to say it was a little windy that night.
Fly with TAP next time the most experienced pilots for Madeira. That's a difficult aerport I respect the pilot for not landing with proper conditions. I have see another planes not land there TAP included. Short runway crossed winds...
That is really odd. Not much of a wobble to be identified (great job holding the camera steady). The runway is also long enough for a late landing for a A320. They could also have chosen to land at Porto Santo to simply refuel and try again or have people sail from Porto Santo to Madeira.
pdmmdk Indeed, they could have. But BA are pretty new to this place, and with only 20 trained captains flying for the airline to land at this airport, it makes matters worse. It seems this airline is to cautious. Though, returning back to the UK, i saw a TAP A320, attempted landing 3 times (3rd time lucky :p )
go arounds are fairly unpopular and cost fuel and nerves that s why there is enough contingency fuel on board to reach an alternate. that applies to smaller aircraft as well so you are well advised to have enough fuel i.e. endurance to reach another airport and to draw up a flightplan to accomodate.
Is it just me or did anybody saw a dark shadow moving along side the aircraft after it attempted to land. The object appears at the bottom right corner of your screen at exactly (8:20)! It could be either a shark or whale or dolphin or marlin, confusing me!
I watched this video at least 5 times it's not a shadow of the aircraft if the aircraft isn't moving as fast as the shadow? Probably a shark or whale! I guess but no shadow!
Well. Not going to go never to Madeira. I experienced a go around in San Miguel, Azores, and It has been such a scary situation for me. Later I have found out that pilots are well prepared for these situations and trained, but anyway, so scary.
Everyone sounded calm. I was flying with my family and our plane had to go around once. My mom and brother were really pissed and it was just 1 go around
+Razorkidz434 Excellent video. Funny how people fume about their safety having been put first. If people died in a crash resulting from the flight crew persisting with their attempts to land in unsafe conditions the first question from loved ones of the deceased and others would be "why did they not divert"? There's no pleasing some people!
I hate British airliners cos they always have screaming children and their parents don't do anything about it cos they think it is child abuse. and theres always people screaming when something is out of the ordinary.
Jorgeyy Boyy Well that's a very interesting point ! I've visited there and drove around most of the island, but there were some flat unexposed parts mate.
Even more recently a BA 320-251 with much larger engines in May/June '23 had to abort twice the first time because they were excessively high on final approach. You'd think the crews would have practiced in simulators! Other airline crews weren't having problems.
Every pilot who flies into Madeira is specially trained - don’t be arrogant. Winds change all the time at this airport that’s why it’s one of the most dangerous and challenging airports in the world. The wise thing is for the pilot to make the safest and best decision he/she knows.
1:50 First attempted Landing
3:45 Cabin Crew announcement
6:35 Pilot making an announcement and auto pilot disengaging
13:00 Second attempted landing
My Husband is a BA Captain who does the tricky captains approach on a few times a month. Believe me if the Captain thinks that there is any potential risk to the plane the passengers and the crew they will not land. The sea may look calm but the crosswinds are a nightmare there
Safety first at all times
Jane Chapman agree with you. I think the pilot done the right thing by aborting the landing.
entirely correct!
Jane Chapman - your husbands stacks shelves at Tesco.
@@stuartanderson8809 - you think he 'done' the right thing, do you?
crosswinds are always an issue at that airport from what i hear. basically if it were my cockpit, the general rule would be if you can't set it down after 3 tries the best thing to do would be to land somewhere less windy.
go around in the cockpit = calm
meanwhile in the cabin" woooaaaaaaahh!!!!
Norwegian Boeing 737-800 lol, must have been fun for their stomachs though!
"Calm"? When an engine stops, passengers pray while pilots drink some coffee.
If this was ryanair you would land no matter what.
Down you will go nomatter what.
Correction: If this was TAP you would land no matter what.
Ryan air would slug the passengers a £40 go around fee
This isnt Ryan Air. The 737 from Ryan Air has other winglets.
Ryanair would have pulled full reverse thrust a 10ft. And called it a day
12:58 I'm glad they blurred the flap track for it's privacy
lmao🤣
Funny
So many aviation experts in the comments section! It's a pretty gusty day, that's plain to see, and Funchal is a short runway with very little room for error. This does not come down to pilot ability.
Yeah... Way shorter than anyone would be comfortable with with windshear and the crosswinds!
Owen so true landed there several times never had a smoth landing in Madeira, runway short and crossed winds.
Funny how so many aviation "experts" come out of the wood works in these kind of videos!
Short,and a requires you to circle in to land.
wow, one of the best go around videos ever. go around twice, captain announcement, beautiful sea, terrifed passengers, I love it :)
And also a beautiful sunny day! Perfection
So...did you guys ever land, or are you still circling Madeira right now as we speak? :)
Still circling 😂
Razorkidz434 Ha! :)
1 year already. are you still in the air
Lol
xD
Annoying but better to have to walk away from a plane in one piece at the wrong airport than end up in a bodybag amonst wreckage at the right airport. I say 10 out of 10 to the pilots for putting their passengers' safety first instead of the airlines balance sheet.
Agree completely!! Go arounds seem scary but in reality, they're performed quite frequently. Plus, what a gorgeous approach!!!
@Jon Patrick I love flying into LIS!
Pilot skill is all it takes, 1000s other ✈️ ✈️ have landed safely in at this airport at first attempt, even during turbulent weather, crosswinds🙄. Only Brits would applaud this
Don't think they need body bags from a plane crash. Human flesh and bones melt from the jet fuel explosion.
@@suzymoroka297 almost all the crashes during landing are caused by pilots arrogance or bad decision by trying to put the plane down and not doing a go around.
It's a courageous pilot , he doesn't try to make impossible and keep safety condition for all the passenger.
It's not a simple choice to decide a toga maneuver.
Congratulation for the pilot !!!
As many of you have asked I'll be uploading the successful landing to my channel soon! Thanks for all the wonderful comments :D Will add a link as soon as its up!
6:40 Autopilot disconnect hahahahahahaha
better than gwps! that be scary to hear on intercom!
klaprat ikr lol
@@bxpress6507 LOLLLLLL
b xpress6 what is gwps??
HAHAAA the way its on the PA
GB Airways (BA owned) used to fly into Madeira till about 10 years ago when they sold out to Ezy: Ezy fly in several times a day and can handle the crosswinds which come down two separate valleys which open out at the thresholds of Rwy 05 (this video) and Rwy 23. There are windsocks at each end and one at midpoint of the runway and with offshore winds they can point in opposite directions. Most a/c after second go-around would divert to Porto Santo 20 miles away
Great decision by pilot as I have seen jets land at Madeira almost sideways instead of going around and, as in this case declaring a fuel emergency and refueling at Lisbon. People have to realize that unless the emergency is extreme, airlines are restricted from landing anywhere other than airports assigned to them.. Also they have to take into consideration that the have hundreds of people that may need security separation, accommodations and food and smaller airports are not equipped for that. The tough decisions are always the best.
Wind shear is a major problem for any aircraft during landing. At Madiera it happens when the wind is in the wrong direction which seems to be most of the time and thats why its one of the worlds most difficult airports to land at. That fact that a plane landed before and after is no measure of their skill against the BA pilot as wind shear can vary from second to second, gust to gust. At the end of the dsay all that matters is he landed safely.
the auto pilot disconnected when he was doing announcement lol
+Daniel Arthur Haha. I noticed that too.
No consequences. They were doing a visual approach on runway 05. When doing visual approach, you disconnect the autopilot and fly manually.
@@zetanist Thanks for stating the obvious
new rule on planes: anyone under the age of 12 is to shut up for the whole flight or the parents get a £10,000 fine
God yes we need that
Seiji Fuji NO
DGJ *P* HINNELLS yes we do
Under the age of 5* because they are the ones who normally get bad ears and cry, 12 and under is a load of bullshit.
Yes please
madeira is supposedly one of the hardest airports to land at on a windy day
Not surprising. Having flown the Funchal approach in X plane, it's a tricky circling approach even in calm winds, but with the cliffs on the left side, it causes quick wind changes.
That pilot has good judgment after all it is an extreme airport and deadly
correct!
Theres always those little bastards (kids) who start screaming, its even worse in turbulence everyone in the plane screams, im normally sat there laughing at them haha
Mate I was on a Virginia flight from New York to London overnight and well there was a kid screaming the whole way back..
Mate I was on a Virgin flight from New York to London overnight and well there was a kid screaming the whole way back..
Lol! I have that on video on my channel! It's so funny! XD
+Hendy it's just so annoying
yeh I guess ur the brave one
the winds are that airport are notorious from videos i have seen....maybe that's why
It seems so, however an easyjet A320 managed to land 6 minutes before us and a TAP A319 after us...
+Razorkidz434 British Airways are pretty inexperienced since this route was only recently re-opened this summer. While TAP and Easy fly here on a daily basis for some time, therefore they have some more experience. I believe you diverted to Lisbon because it would be easier for BA to manage crews as they fly LHR-LIS so extra crew could be accommodate to continue the flight.
+Diogo Da Silva Indeed their route only started in March. However, we did have the same crew as the previous day, using the same plane.
+Razorkidz434 I see but the winds at Madeira are very random. One day it could be calm with practically no wind while on the next day winds could be at 25+ knots with gusts and so on.. And since most BA pilots are new to Madeira they would not wish to risk it as much.
+Diogo Da Silva That is why you land using a headwind.
It was an unusual situation, the wind was around only 10 kts, was the only diverted of the day. good video buddy
indeed it was, thanks mate appreciated!
+aviationchannel2010 may have been some mechanical malfunction not visible to the camera...the weather sure looked good..not seeing any flex in the wing or side to side wobble in the plane....the sea looked calm, no white caps at all....unless the wind direction did a complete 180 shift or the wind shear warning activated , I am not sure why the landing aborted ...wish we could hear the pilot / ATC audio of what happened....
+Gary Vale or maybe BA pilots are just shit.😁
Pilots be like: Whaaaaaaaaaat no ILS? Come on.. I'll divert to a real airport..
PhilDG I thought there was ILS at Madeira? Or am I thinking Porto santo? Either way, landing 05 must be a tricky one, a sharp right turn straight into landing. Add a bit of wind sheer for squeaky bum time.
Think that is scary. My planes wing tip hit the runway while landing in Vegas. The plane ahead of us had 3 ambulances around it. Needless to say it was a little windy that night.
Legend has it they're still going around
Fly with TAP next time the most experienced pilots for Madeira.
That's a difficult aerport I respect the pilot for not landing with proper conditions. I have see another planes not land there TAP included. Short runway crossed winds...
I remember being on a flight & done 3 go arounds due to bad gust & crosswind & they decided to diervert in the end
That is really odd. Not much of a wobble to be identified (great job holding the camera steady). The runway is also long enough for a late landing for a A320. They could also have chosen to land at Porto Santo to simply refuel and try again or have people sail from Porto Santo to Madeira.
pdmmdk Indeed, they could have. But BA are pretty new to this place, and with only 20 trained captains flying for the airline to land at this airport, it makes matters worse. It seems this airline is to cautious. Though, returning back to the UK, i saw a TAP A320, attempted landing 3 times (3rd time lucky :p )
Bloody hell. Oh well...back to the simulator. ;)
P.S. Honestly, the only reason that I would ever go to this island is for that airport.
You put them back in the sim if they DONT go around
That sharp turn approach whew! I bet even the pilots were leaning to the right on that turn lol 😅
It's more fun with screaming kids...
agreed
Beautiful video, really enjoyed.
That airport needs an upgrade I think in terms of runway length.
Andrew Anane it has already had one 😂
AutonomasVox lol
Legend says they are still circling around the airport
Haha, after the second go around, the camera guy stopped recording and probably texted "i love you" to his wife
go arounds are fairly unpopular and cost fuel and nerves that s why there is enough contingency fuel on board to reach an alternate. that applies to smaller aircraft as well so you are well advised to have enough fuel i.e. endurance to reach another airport and to draw up a flightplan to accomodate.
6:41 Wow autopilot off that sound i love 😍
All these people complaining about going around, more time in the air, why are you complaining???
I love these videos. looking down at the land is wonderful as I don't fly very often. Thank you
Great pilot. put everybody,s safety 1st.
Is it just me or did anybody saw a dark shadow moving along side the aircraft after it attempted to land. The object appears at the bottom right corner of your screen at exactly (8:20)! It could be either a shark or whale or dolphin or marlin, confusing me!
Vanessa Stuart oh wow I didn't even notice that, I reckon it's the shadow of the plane!
I watched this video at least 5 times it's not a shadow of the aircraft if the aircraft isn't moving as fast as the shadow? Probably a shark or whale! I guess but no shadow!
Muffey Stuart it was the planes shadow. Since it was turning, the shadow also was moving, hence why it looks to be moving faster that the place
Shadow of the plane as it stays visible for a while in the same place.
On the bright side, the runway there is not short, as short runways are usually less than 8,000 feet long.
indeed, seems they extended this runway a few years ago... the rest is built on stilts!
Probably the most exciting part of going to Madeira
Well. Not going to go never to Madeira. I experienced a go around in San Miguel, Azores, and It has been such a scary situation for me. Later I have found out that pilots are well prepared for these situations and trained, but anyway, so scary.
Why go allllllll the way to Lisbon when he could have just diverted to Porto Santo minutes away?
Lol, Germans and Russians would land. Portuguese land no matter what.
Lmao
+Luc Desaulniers (minardi) Best comment on youtube hahaha
+Luc Desaulniers (minardi) I have no doubt.
In Russia, runway lands on plane! 🇷🇺🇷🇺
AHAHAH You won MATE!!!
Everyone sounded calm. I was flying with my family and our plane had to go around once. My mom and brother were really pissed and it was just 1 go around
I think this airport has the most aborted landings in the world :-)
great video!
2019 still circling
I guess landing at Madeira that day wasn't a piece of cake!
So close to landing! Subscribed
Captain Steven Markovich that’s when aborted LANDINGS happen 😅😅😂
my lord how difficult it is to land at Funchal Airport! a delightful weather,but the wind should have been tremendous!! great pilots !
Any landing which you walk away from is a good landing, as they say..
what the cause the to abort the airplane? was it due to the weavher ?
something similar happened to me on japan, we tried 2 times to land on narita. But the third time was the smoothest landing i've experienced.
Wonder why they didn't divert to Porto Santo??
Considering how smooth the water was, the wind seems pretty calm ? 2 x go arounds, pilot training ?
Great video Gibraltar is always a tricky place to land too
Rare situation! Really lucky you caught it on camera!
TeanoZ Thanks, i was just expecting an ordinary landing :D
The pilot dosent want to quit the game !
It doesn’t even look windy there. No white horses on the sea
I like how we heard the autopilot during his announcement.
Is it me or is every missed landing where the flaps aren't fully down to 40?
It’s an airbus, they don’t go to 40
In gusty conditions flaps are usually set to 3 instead of full. It makes it easier to go around with flaps 3
All the way to Lisbon for an emergency landing? I would've been fuming!!
There were definitely many fuming people! But fortunately for us we were going for 2 weeks... so 1 day didn't make much difference
+Razorkidz434 Excellent video. Funny how people fume about their safety having been put first. If people died in a crash resulting from the flight crew persisting with their attempts to land in unsafe conditions the first question from loved ones of the deceased and others would be "why did they not divert"? There's no pleasing some people!
Did you ever land?
Bet that was great for your stomachs!
I hate British airliners cos they always have screaming children and their parents don't do anything about it cos they think it is child abuse. and theres always people screaming when something is out of the ordinary.
I agree..
Who are British Airlines we don’t have an airline called British Airlines it’s called British Airways get your facts right
it is "AirlineRs" not "Airlines"
Stand up Cappy, I got this. Hold my beer.
I wouldn't be a happy passenger
Legend says that the plane is still doing go arounds 😂😂
Madeira was absolutely kicking the Pilots' asses that day.
Edit: I guess, it's just the Captain's ass. Cuz Madeira is Captain-Only landing airport.
Its high time they looked for an alternative field there, this is an everyday occurrence,
+Rod James where would that be?...The whole island is a mountain...
Jorgeyy Boyy Well that's a very interesting point ! I've visited there and drove around most of the island, but there were some flat unexposed parts mate.
I gotta hand it to the crowd for not freaking out
Fuera de todo lo bonito de este vídeo esos pasajeros que????? Primera vez que montan un avión madre mía que ruido
So quiet on number two. What you got somewhere to be?
Fantastic sound of autopilot disengage
What config You using? Your sim is 10/10 :P
Ryan Perry lol
Pilot got on wrong plane but landed in Lisbon so his holiday wasn't ruined.
And the plane never landed.
Aborted landings are fine as long as the pilot finally puts down the plane correctly in the end.
stop complaining about the kids guys
Even more recently a BA 320-251 with much larger engines in May/June '23 had to abort twice the first time because they were excessively high on final approach. You'd think the crews would have practiced in simulators! Other airline crews weren't having problems.
Every pilot who flies into Madeira is specially trained - don’t be arrogant. Winds change all the time at this airport that’s why it’s one of the most dangerous and challenging airports in the world. The wise thing is for the pilot to make the safest and best decision he/she knows.
........
easyjet a319 to ltn waiting by the side.
Back when planes used to fly
very nice island
The first Pilot made the go arounds. The second Pilot later lands the plane and said. Where was the problem? 😄
Wonderful pilot, A noisy group of passengers thought
Maybe there was some issue
And then what? did you just jump with parachute
Flight simulator to PS3 Boeing British 737 same
6:43 autopilote off 😁
Without Captain announcement? like " We will try again, it was failed to mantain the speed and altitude" maybe next landing succeeded 😅😅
emergency landing? in Lisbon? did it had enough fuel even make it to Lisbon? that's a lot of kilometers away,
well apparently so!
why were you diverted? strong winds?
I would ban anyone who screams from flying.
Great, only it would have been nice to see the eventual successful landing !
I dont´t know, but the Canary Islands are much closer than Lisbon.
Yes but are all islands ant the wind is bad :/
+mario cardabollo Depends where the weather conditions are better and usually where the airline has handling etc set up already.
What happened?
Awesome video, mate! Indeed an unusual situation. ;)