Why Football Failed (in some places)
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- Опубліковано 20 сер 2024
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Script by brain4breakfast
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Music:
Intro/Outro: William Tell Overture, by Rossini
Ireland: Garryowen
India: An unnamed Hindu Aarti chant(?)
USA: Yankee Doodle; The National Emblem March; The Star-Spangled Banner (Herald Trumpets)
Canada: O Canada
USSR/China: The International; March of the Volunteers
Australia: Advance Australia Fair
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It'll be back to normal videos after this. The response to the last video was just overwhelming with the "aktshually" comments about specific countries, so I figured case studies were a good reply.
Thanks again to my collaborators (no, not that kind of collaborators) for their contribution. I hope you guys like it.
brain4breakfast nice references
brain4breakfast great video
Thanks for having us!
K m8
Hey can you make a video about:
Dictatorships and football in Latin America.
Corruption in football associations.
Football and wars.
If you’re new here and confused: he unfortunately died last year. We don’t know when and we don’t know how, so he may have died in a car crash or he may have not. There is no source and there probably won’t be because his family deserves privacy. He was an amazing person.
thanks i was wondering why are people spamming R.I.P I thought it was joke. then i researched and i found that he died on 24/04/2019. R.I.P B4B.
@@gamerswindows8andoneplus205 i think that was a stroke my source is from countryballs sub so may be false but the guy says to be a friend so looks true
@@GustavoGomes-nn5np in the polandball sub they officially stated it is unknown how he died but may or may not be a car accident
@@gamerswindows8andoneplus205 he died on my birthday :(
@@Allrounderguy :(
"the GAA didn't just do sport, they also promoted Irish language, Irish culture, and WAR AGAINST THE BRITISH"
Which british the Welsh the Scottish (who make up a good chunk of nothern Ireland) or the english
@@spartanx9293 the english
@@jasonirwin2947 understandable but I can't help but feel like you'd lose (got nothing against the Irish just to my knowledge the uk has a better military
@@spartanx9293 do they teach yea any history about the irish war in the 1920s ofcourse they dont they cover up how many of the british killed many irish people that did nothing
@@jasonirwin2947 I'm american and I was refering to modern day considering the damage the British had taken during ww1 im not suprised you beat them well except in northern ireland I know what the British did to the Irish
RIP dude you will be missed
ryan koshy why did he leave
@@chairmen1873 He has passed away.
Josh K. How?
@@tristandevos682 Nobody knows. His family never revealed
The Burned Man the ones god loves die young
Rest in Peace B4B, you were among the best.
Yes and you could say I just found it but it makes me mad that the parents of brain4breakfeast don’t say how he died I thought homocide? I mean hey you never know so don’t call me stupid.
what he is no more ?
@@yuvrajsingh-dh6hv He passed away :(
?!
I'm sorry to hear that.
Oh no, I liked this channel 😅
7:49 Thanks, really appreciate the in depth look on why hockey is a thing.
He could elaborate, but basically Russian during WWC explained that their national sport was hockey, not football. Because of the cold.
I laughed so hard at this point in the video- XD
0:08 404 New Zealand not found
As it should be
It was flooded
@Ok Astronomer why's a new Zealand?
Wait... Wth is New Zealand?
@Nunovia Gottdamnedbizzness Any New Zealander will tell you that sport's real name is *rustling,* (presumably onomatopoeia); and their real national sport is Surprise Boxing.
There are literally parks in every city in America and backyard football is played everywhere in the U.S. soccer is just not played by most folks, aside from young kids. It's often looked at as an upper class sport, like rugby or lacrosse.
Yea they fucking missed their shot about American Football by a mile holy shit.
American football*
Soccer is the archetypical suburban comfortable middle class sport in North America. The term "soccer mom" didn't come out of nowhere. The thing is that soccer is considered a participatory sport, mostly for children and teens. It isn't broadly perceived as a spectator sport that crowds gather to watch. There is a very small market for association football as a spectator sport in either the USA or Canada although professional leagues keep springing up and slowly dying in both countries. The most recent leagues seem to be doing a little better, or at least were before the pandemic (which probably killed off the current crop financially).
I'd argue golf and tennis are the big spectator sports of the wealthy in North America. Rugby and lacrosse are mostly just played in school (and that's despite lacrosse being one of Canada's official sports).
The US spectator sport market is dominated by the big 3 mentioned in the video: baseball, American rules gridiron football and basketball. Hockey and NASCAR motorsport are worth mentioning as sports with strong regionally popularity (although there are NHL teams across the US, it's really the northeast and upper midwest where the old and storied US teams are from that are fond of hockey).
The Canadian spectator sport market is dominated by hockey (definitely in top spot) and gridiron football (Canadian rules in person and both CFL and NFL on TV) with curling probably taking third place despite the sport not having professional leagues (it's kind of an interprovincial rivalry thing with a very "everyman" vibe to it - a genuinely popular amateur sport). Association football and basketball are gaining ground in a few major cities but they aren't super popular (outside basketball in Toronto).
This feels so weird seeing rugby be called an upper class sport
@@sergentmaso It's associated with posh schools in North America (basically, it's an Anglophile sport). Gridiron (American or Canadian rules) football mostly fills its social niche and is viewed as less snobbish (despite football being deeply tied to higher education in the US, it's got a non-urban vibe because it requires a lot of space for the stadiums). Quite different from the UK, I know.
"American football is super dangerous".
Meanwhile down under.
AFL isn't really dangerous anymore, the tactics have changed from brute strength to speed and player initiative.
Rugby on the other hand...
"Cough" rugby "cough" doesn't "cough" use "cough" armor "cough"
And it's the same thing
@@bungercolumbus it really isn't but ok butthurt brit
@@bungercolumbus The way contact is done in Rugby is not the equivalent of American Football. Look at a rugby tackle versus an American Football one
Meanwhile down under they don't get hit as hard or are injured as much
10:10
Yep, Syria, my war torn country defeated China the stable 1.5 billion population country in football :)
Everyone gets alot of exercise running, and kicking live grenades away from themselves in Syria.
Remind me which team went to the quarter finals in the 2019 Asian Cup and which team didn't win a game at the same tournament.
Cheng Liu found the angry Chinese person...
@@meatusbeatus5548: Stating a fact makes me angry now? I'll keep that in mind. 🙄
+(Cheng Liu) at least MY COUNTRY DOESINT NEED SLAVES TO PUSH THE ECONOMY
god bless america
6:57 "Hey! Wanna play football with the guys next Wednesday?"
"Oh sorry, I can't. I've gotta finish banjo-dueling."
Chase Searle YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEHAW
Goodbye dude true legends don’t die till they are forgotten
We'll never forget him.
He’s actually dead? Or just not uploading, I’m seeing all these comments and now I’m fucking confused
@@ryanmurray7941 he passed away in February
Ryan Murray Hes dead man. Apparently he killed himself
@@doctorballs8309 That's not true
"Canada's just cold innit?"
One of the most British sentences in this video
Well chilly innit mate?
You mean bri'ish right mate?
Ice hockey are the most spectacular,fast and agressive team sport in the world.
It's coming home
It's coming third
Nevermind
Hon hon hon...
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Shapur Hakhamaniash I always feel a little over joy when Brazil looses.
Trantorium, I was in discord with my friend from England, and he looped that bloody song for about three hours. I now never want the British to ever come close to winning again just so I never have to hear that song. That soul crushingly annoying song...
it's comming 4th bitch belgium beat your asses twice
Me: "Hey how come basketball is more popular in the USA than soccer?"
Video: "Oh, well that's because it's easier to play in an urban area than soccer; you can build a gymnasium in a city pretty easily, and even if you don't have one, it's even easier to just play it on the streets or in an alley. You need a whole field to play soccer properly."
Me: "Ah, makes sense. What about baseball and American football?"
Video: "Oh well those are more popular beCAUSE COMMUNISM NEVER GRACED THE USA WITH ITS PRESENCE TO GIVE THE WORKING CLASS THE RIGHTS IT DESERVES, SO NOW IT'S JUST ANOTHER SPECTATOR SPORT INSTEAD OF HAVING TEAMS WHICH ARE OWNED COLLECTIVELY BY THE COMMUNITY"
Me: ⚆ᗝ⚆ "oh"
LaserFace23 This dude really went left field with that one lol. As if Eastern Europe is the only place people are good at soccer
Well Europe had a bit of socialist presence which gave workers rights
Aneesh Sahu Whether or not that's true, what's the relation to soccer? It's a complete non-sequitur to tie the two together. Why would America still have insanely popular sports (especially amongst its working class) like American football, baseball, and basketball if it's (supposedly) such a hellhole for those workers to be in? Would socialism *really* have made soccer more popular in the US? If so, on what grounds? Does this mean that if US capitalism was more prominent in other countries, so would baseball, basketball, and American football? These are all valid questions that poke endless holes into the video's stupid theories on socialism, America, and soccer; yet the video just glosses over all of it while the "expert" pretends to know what he's talking about, all in favor of pushing a ridiculous far-leftist narrative spouting the glorious success of socialism.
Like. I just wanted a video on fuckin soccer, bro, why ya gotta do me like this
For someone who lives in the favelas, being a soccer player is the only way to be famous, rich and noticed by society.
Que the Soviet anthem
USA: *spends half the video*
Canada: "It's cold, innit?"
That American football rant was something else lmfao.
Yeah it was a kinda cringe moment to be fair. Like watching it I was like bruh.
It was totally true.
@@krealyesitisbeta5642 It was partially true. It really didn't dig down deep enough. While he was 100% on target about college and pro-ball, he totally missed the fact that at the high school and junior high levels (age range of about 12-18), American football can be found in just about every small town and big city in the United States. In some places, Texas for example, this amateur level of play has ascended almost to religious status. There are entire Texas towns that shut down on Friday nights for high school football games and high school stadiums in Texas that cost more to build than a lot of professional stadiums for many sports. At this lower/introductory level, American football is both a spectator and participant sport and spawns a long tradition of backyard and park pick-up games.
@@Osric01 not just Texas but the South in General. I think Florida produces the most NFL players.
@@Osric01 that whole comment shows why it isn’t a participant sport. The high school level even having a bunch of money and attention behind it is not what participant means. It means that a bunch of kids or anybody can get together and easily play it in a similar way to the pros without too much hassle.
Like with soccer the uniform isn’t anything special except for the shin guards. With football you need full body armor which regular people playing together won’t have.
Soccer has a referee but regular play isn’t too special, just pass the ball and shoot without stopping. Football is more complicated with paying attention to yards with stopping and starting
>US college lasting only 3 months
>no pro/reg in MLS
>pay to play in youth leauges american soccer can't grow
Sloth 702
1.) that’s just one semester, 4 years are required for a typical bachelor’s degree.
2.) at the current state of football in america, most teams from lower tier leagues such as the NASL and the USL lack the infrastructure, fans, or stadiums to work in america. the sport simply isn’t popular yet for a pro/reg system to work. wait a few years and maybe they may come across the possibility.
3.) yeah, there’s no arguing for that
Duck the Tree
1) 4 years but only 12 months of soccer with 9 months in between every 3 months
2) second tier leagues have fans and can build a fan base (look and cincinatti and las vegas) but it is very difficult to build a new team and the risks are too high
Sloth 702 yeah, not everyone can pull a cincy
>colleges still being given a monopoly on sport as though they actually educate their team members instead of just use the kids as piggy banks
>the lack of relegation is really the result of a still developing market. It will be interesting to see if the US ends up following Europe's model with this. It's certainly a tough sell to people sinking hundreds of millions of dollars into a project to explain that their investment isn't even guaranteed to be competing in the same league within a few years
>"pay to play"
This is the biggest crock of shit. What people mean when they say "pay to play" is that, as with hockey, in order to let your child grow at a niche sport, he/she needs to join a travel team in order to face real competition, and frequent all sorts of camps
Now, this is obviously true to some extent, but the way around this is simply to build up a real soccer culture in this country, headed by a relevant professional league. If the MLS can be made successful over the long term, it will certainly be able to drop the kind of money on youth development that leagues like the Bundesliga are able to do.
Finally, if you want to speed up the development of soccer/football in this country, simply keep up the pressure on American football leagues to deal with the head trauma cases. The fact that head trauma is so pervasive and essentially unavoidable ought to be used as a formidable PR weapon in the years to come. Inner city kids and working class kids should be made to see that they have a way out of poverty that doesn't require them to be brain-dead by age 35. (Incidentally, I LOVE American football, but the head trauma shit seems to be a real dead end)
Well the money has to come from somewhere. Not the goverment. That's reserved for military and coal subsidies.
This is the kind of countryball content I've been looking for, only to realized he has passed away a year ago.
I hope the other parallel multiverse are having a great time with him for his content.
2 years ago*
@@pranavpatil1362 hi 👋
It's very simple: where there was no existing mass spectator sport, soccer took root; where there was, it couldn't.
Well said!
Why would institutions want to uphold the very expensive sport of American football? It's much cheaper to run a program for almost any other sport. I have a hard time believing that American football made it in America against the will of the people. It still dominates American television markets and gets participation from many social statuses.
It didn’t make it without the will of the people. You can’t force entertainment on people what the fuck is he on about?
Hmm American play with ball using their hands and call it 'football'
Kowalski analysis
So do Australians but why are you fixated on the U.S......They hate u cause they Anus..
Rugby Football is also played using the hands.
I don't understand why Assciation Football (Soccer) fans get anoyyed at American Gridiron Football for using hands when every type of football expect Association Football requires you to use hands. Association Football is the only one where to you can't (expect Goalies in the pently box and throw ins)
1) When AMERICAN style FOOTBALL was first played in the USA, the only way to score a goal was to either RUN with the ball into the "end zone" or to KICK it over the "goalposts". Hence: "FOOTBALL". 2). The "forward pass" was a later add-on. It completley changed the nature of the game but the Lords of Football just kept the same name.3). Americans, until fairly recently called "Association Football" "SOCCER" to differentiate it from the American version. .Really NOT rocket science nor much of a "mystery"....
Its because its Not played on horseback, your run on your feet. So football.
I somehow can't stop laughing at the background music for the India part..😂😂
Yeah, right. 😂😂😂😂
It was impossible to watch, I was like, why is a Hindu Hym being played in the back ground. It's comparable to playing Jingle Bells when talking about the US.
@@Kasyom more like playing sweet caroline at full volume lol
Bg music is bhajan 😂😂😂😂
@@Kasyom it has more meaningful
the That poem
Damn, we'll miss you man...
What happen
@@KDH-br6hy he ded
@@icewallowcome1276 he passed away??
@@icewallowcome1276 how?
@@ankitkawale9748 erectile dysfunction 😞
couldnt have summed up canada better
HillBillyHell1397 I know
What about the Nordic countries,Their cold. But Football remains on par with Alpine sports and Ice Hockey.
Hockey is basically just ice football anyways.
The Nordic countries are cold, but they’re right next to all the other football nations. Canada’s got the isolationism problem as well.
Marylandbrony true, expect that football in Finland is miserable compared to ice Hockey
The whole lack of space argument for the US for football doesn't really hold ground considering the Brazilian favela's where football is the national past time.
That just led to their best best players going to the major cities or Europe.
@@Derperfier during the Pele era all the best Brazilians played in the Brazilian league
Also outside of the cities in America is fucking huge. I mean sure a lot of that is desert but we build giant cities in those deserts anyways.
@@hexazalea1793 do you know what a desert is? The areas outside cities isn’t deserts it’s woodland areas, marshes or just generally an area so large there’s not enough economic reasons to develop those areas
@Felipe yeah, the same thing hapenned in argentina
Who ever talked about the American lack of participation sports seams like they have never spent much time in the rural US. In the south, life is almost all about playing sport especially when young
and Football gives poor kids a chance to go to uni even if they aren't studious enough if they can make it onto a college football team.
A-DrewG I mean. Maybe sometimes but I won’t really count that as a selling point
The important thing they missed is that since football and basketball are run by the schools, most youth (high school) teams are taxpayer funded, enabling greater participation than would occur otherwise. However, with the increasing knowledge of CTE and concussion issues surrounding football, less and less parents are willing to let their kids play, and so participation numbers are steadily declining.
The ritual US?
@ rural*
Just noticed the reference that, Gandhi’s fifa card shows that he’s from an Argentinian team named “independiente”, which is independent in English! The amount of details put into these videos is amazing! It’s sad that u left forever... Rest In Peace, and make good references in heaven or wherever you are now.
Just to tell though that Gandhi didn't make India independent though. It's a huge misconception.
It seems to me that in many places that football failed in, they have there own version of football i.e. American football, Gaelic football and Australian football.
You are correct
@@procrastinatingpuma Because the answer is obvious. They imported their sports from the USA, not Britain.
Fun fact, Australian football every 4 years has a match against the Irish GAA And its called 'Aussie rules'. Its done because of the similarities of the sports, and the main difference is that its more physical I believe
@@machoman655 Its called international rules not aussie rules which is another name for australian football
@@galoglaich3281 ah apologies, I wasn't 100% sure on the name
American football is incredibly misrepresented... The American NFL/AFL are filled with what used to be lower class workers because it is easy to play, and there are several minor leagues... I have no idea what he was saying about there not being any minor leagues? There are a ton, maybe not as large as baseball minor leagues, but they are there. Perhaps I just misunderstood that part though.
You didn't misunderstand it that guy has no clue about American football or America.
Who cares about minor leagues, how do they get promoted lol?
The US has a minor football league that is probably more popular than the professional league...it's called the NCAA. High school football is extremely popular in the South, Midwest, and West - which have the strongest college football teams.
He was too talking about "soccer".
Yeah that guy definitely doesn’t know what he was talking about. He is right that colleges have a huge grip on American football... because it is literally created and developed by colleges. College football is absolutely massive and is where fans hold a lot more stake in, in fact college football resemble the European club structure more than they resemble the NFL.
RIP b4b, he was truly ahead of his time with the countryball history vids
He was the best of us, may he rest in peace.
The whole not having an empowered working class thing for a major reason why the US never fully adopted soccer is such a stretch I can’t even fathom it.
Actually Football/Soccer is the most played competitive sport by American children up until the High School level. It is only until High School and later at the College level that the other Sports surpass it and that Soccer pretty much disappears from the sporting landscape.
It’s just communist propaganda lol. Should we get the working class more involved in our sports? Of course. Do we have to change our government to do so? No
Warren Nelson I buy this because I played the game as little kid and so did many of my friends and it just fizzled out.
Josh
The claim itself is a stretch
Communist propaganda ? .... erm It's about sport mate
The sandpaper joke for the Aussies made me laugh even though I’m Aussie
@suviram das one of the worest sport is cricket that is for sure boring game with hatting the ball feilding and all credits to captain if they won world cup
@@adityasanthos291 oh yeah cricket is the worst. Ever heard of american football. 🤣🤣🤣
@@adityasanthos291 lauda le ,have u ever defended a ball ,leave I think u don't how to keep bat in hand 🙂 cricket need patience that game has so many rules like u people can't understand and call it has boring, people with more iq will love sports not like u fool
Thinks cricket invented using things to tamper with the ball,lol. That’s baseball bud.
@@philmccracken179 *cough* First ball tempering was before baseball *cough*
This was my first video of him. I miss him. RIP brain4breakfast.
The Gandhi FIFA card made me chuckle. 2 Physicality rating makes sense 😁
The American section of the video is a colossal stretch.
I've got to say that the "America" section of this video is bit ridiculous also that the fellow doing it isn't American probably doesn't help. The working class in America have tremendous ownership of the game and play it very often. Besides the fact that school teams and little leauges exist across the nation in large numbers, you can go to any local park or field of grass and play a game. Which people do, all the time. I don't think socialism would change that.
He’s not even advocating for socialism... he’s advocating for communism
DA REAL Johnny Appleseed It doesn't even make any sense. American cities have more than enough place to play soccer.
@Ken FireFlame very true. This really goes for most American sports Football, Soccer, Baseball, and Basketball.
Yeah he spent all the time for america then covered Canada in 10 words
Its nice to see comments that arnt so anti American that you think there from North Koreans
It didn't come home :(
Look on the bright side, at least you made further than us Aussies. We got trampled by Llamas. That should give you an idea.
Kieran J.W feckers
Lol
Kieran J.W :)
It never could
rest in peace, mr B4B
Me getting this in my recommendations and loving the video
Only to see that he sadly passed away, may he Rest In Peace.
Who passed away bro
@@waesutekopark5856 the maker of the video
@@NarutoUzumaki-up9uv wait what, is it real, where is the source
@@waesutekopark5856 he hasn't been making video from 2 years mate
And see the comments of the latest vidoe
The US didn't invent the term "soccer". Europe did.
We just kept it.
Pretty sure Europeans weren't even close to being the first people to practice slavery...
Read This
To Americans England is in Europe.
and?
Corrupted Archangel read this, to Americans England is the only country in Europe which does things, most won't be able to name any other countries in Europe lol.
+Dr Derp
Uppity aren't we? I'm sorry Great Britain seems to think its importance is that of an continent. Rather than just being another European nation. I bet you're a genius at geography and any of your village idiots could best an American of intellect. How bought this how many states can you name in the U.S, that is our equivalent to European countries. When our nation is nearly the size of Europe it is hard for the average american to care about the state sized European countries that love to fight with each other endlessly.
11:03. Error 404, New Zealand not found
Rugby only exists in New Zealand
They couldn't find NZ on any map.
I couldn't stop laughing at 2:07 when he showed gandhi's fifa card. Lmao
10:36 sandpaper gate 🔥🤣. That is actually hilarious 😂😆😂
China:Why kick balls when you can math.
Why kick balls when you can solve the circumference and radius of the football
Really cool video but your buddy doesn’t understand American football nearly as well as he thinks he does
Perhaps next time he gets an actual American? Also, kids in East Coast cities played baseball (stickball) without the benefit of green spaces.
There's definitely some good points made but anyone who claims that there's no sense of team ownership in the NFL has never seen an American football game. I'm from Cleveland and the Muni lot (literally just some random parking lot) is like some kind of weird religious festival every Sunday, and thats the worst team in the league.
I am referring to helmeted egg wrestling
Yeah, but not just american football. He also didn't understand the rise of baseball or basketball. And the fact that the british fucked over our early cricket leagues caused the rise in baseball, which became the national sport for a number of decades before finally giving way to American football. He didn't understand the rise of basketball culture, or even when it really hit it's stride. He didn't get the fact before the 40s, Boxing and horse racing used to be the #2, #3 or #4 spots (varying with CFB as well) behind baseball over here (yeah, that should shock you); but they were stupid in how they handled the media tech innovations.
He fundamentally didn't understand soccer as we know it wasn't around by the time american football was being played around with; in England it was being codified and was still split (hence the Rugby rules football, and association football, aka, what England would call soccer and ruccer - hence, they made soccer term first) - while around the same time America had the same sorts of football being split amongst itself, and ended up getting codified around the same ballpark. By the time it hit it's stride overseas and finally came over here in an organized manner, football, baseball, etc - were already going up. Though, if the ALS didn't fold, great depression and all of that - in the soccer wars - and their aggressive buying out of European stars with more money than any other nation at the time could afford - causing threats with FIFA, etc - America could have easily been the go-to new international soccer league after awhile, and one of the greatest forces in the world at the time... Just a number of bad timing events ruined the perhaps hayday soccer did have in the 20s here in the US. Funny thing is, I am not sure if this idea bothers the europeans more than the idea that we don't like their sport as much today. Funny history nonetheless...
Worked out for the better anyway, we still got a better sport out of it, that evolves for more entertaining spectacle for the fans, protect the players, etc - every year; compared to the slow moving egg that is IFAB in rules, that almost plays the same as it did in 1904 when codified. AFB for instance, is drastically different from where it was 20-30 years ago. Almost foreign where you can clothesline people, etc - 50-60 years ago. And almost a different game 100 years ago. Which the evolution has helped the game tremendously, like the AFL-NFL rules that transitioned in those days about passing, etc. I don't think it is an accident soccer seems slower paced, and seems more evolved for an older world - and seems to be more boring today than it used to be.
Fish4Man61 wow I am clearly not as well informed as you lol, especially in the history of sports other than football. I just get the general sense that he doesn’t understand American sports culture, Friday nights in the fall in small town America are a unique phenomenon, and I won’t be told that it is because American workers are blindly following a sport that “oligarchs” are shoving down their throat, because they haven’t seen the freeing beauty of a 1-0 championship game
I hope you will entertain people in heaven. Rest in peace, polandball community's beloved brain4breakfest
England: Makes a sport > Spreads it around the world > becomes bad at it > repeat
America: Makes a sport > no one wants to play it > becomes "world" champions
There are exceptions. Basketball in an American invented sport and a lot of other countries loves to play it.
The working class in the US generally likes American football. They are not loosing their rights by allowing the market (which is themselves) decide what will prevail instead of the government telling them what sports can survive
But... US colleges are privatized. The government doesn’t control them. And as for "people are the market", don’t you remember your own constitution? “We the people”. People are the government. You choose your leaders. That’s literally the entire point of the democratic system.
+cannonfodder343
good b8 bud, keep doin god's work
+cannonfodder343 That's not true. There are public universities and private universities. Public colleges get funding directly from the government and have to abide by that constitution you mentioned. And funny enough, they're usually the best at sports. On this list of the 30 best athletic programs, only 8 are private universities. www.bestcollegereviews.org/features/most-successful-college-athletics-programs/
Well excusee me
It isn't wrong to call out the NFL as aristocratic or more accurately as Authoritarian. They have constantly hampered the development of the sport by requiring membership in their oppressive league. Opposing the prospect of other leagues or foreign expansion.
This video seems like it was put together by intelligent people who put a lot of thought into why other nations may have responded differently to football based on the cultural and geographic differences they observed, but who don't really know the subject they're talking about. Like for the US section there are definitely some useful pieces of the puzzle there, but some pieces have been crammed together that look like they fit but don't actually. Basketball found its niche by being an indoor sport, yes, but that has nothing to do with soccer's failure when American football and baseball are around. The collegiate influence on American football is definitely a unique, bizarre arrangement, yes, but that's not something that couldn't have applied to soccer too, plus baseball doesn't have that. The first ever college football game in the US was basically soccer with a slightly older ruleset than Association rules, allowing a bit more physical play and brief uses of the hands. Americans just decided they preferred a more rugby-like game and switched to that, same as Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Ireland, South Africa... pretty much every major English-speaking nation except the UK come to think of it. The UK are the odd ones for not liking rugby-style games more than soccer.
maninredhelm I mean all the other countries in the world prefer football.
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Lmao soccer hasn't failed in Australia, there may be other sports but Australia still has a large soccer following, we just can't do that well because there's a small population and many other sports.
Mr. Sniff I agree. Just because it's not the most popular sport doesn't mean it failed
I don't think the population of Australia is small, maybe in the medium category of nations.
Mr. Sniff 24 million is up there with most European nations.
The MLS in America hasn't failed either, but you can't deny that people are nowhere as interested in the A League as they are in other sports. That's what "failed" means, not that football has outright collapsed here or something. We're unique in being able to support so many sports at once too.
Croatia has 4 million people and they arrived in the finals...
Weirdly enough the negativity towards gridiron football in this video just helps me appreciate it. Makes it feel special, I dunno. It's kind of cool that a sport that's as weird, complicated, high-level, and less individually accessible for play has managed to be so huge here.
First video I watched from u. Rest easy buddy thanks for all
Rest in peace
I think a better title would be 'Where Football Failed' because obviously it didn't fail like every other sport didn't fail, if anything out of all the sports it failed the least.
You Know yeah the fact that it's the number one sport both watched and played worldwide kind of renders the 'it failed' argument invalid
YAY! ANOTHER POLANDBALL VIDEO!
I know that feeling
Maybe America should be egg shaped.
MrTohawk Why
because every other country plays with a ball.
Why is Singapore a triangle?
I'm so sad... he died...
Rest In Peace Brain4breakfast
@@mxttspl He passed away
@@mxttspl ua-cam.com/video/LWfur-7GJbU/v-deo.html
“Working class were never able to take it for themselves” obviously you know nothing of the Green Bay packers mate
Exception to the rule
Most NFL teams are supported by the working class and their players came from the same class
@@theoyancey but it's nothing like the European Footballeags. I the NFL it's nothing comparable to an Derby
@@blada0017 i dont even know what a derby is lol
@@theoyancey It's a game often bettwen clubs there at the same region for example BVB vs Schalke booth clubs are from the '' Ruhr pott'' this teams hates each other its a local things this derbys and often there a lot of history beetwen this duels. For the fans somites a win in this games are more important than a Championchip. Becaus the clubs are so strogen coalitat with tehrer comunittys the Local rively bettwen the community become the rivalry bettwen the clubs. An other example is when an Derby reprenst Social classes mostly working class VS the Rich an good example are Bayer München against 1860 München Bayer München Was the Club for the Rich (To day its more diverse) and 1860 was the club for the Working class. This things most local and its not only happening in Profesional sports also in Amerteur sports.
Worker's rights having to do with sports? You mean all those unions that have been around for 100+ years wouldn't have ANYTHING to do with worker's rights...
And don't use socialist countries as an example. Worker's there have the "right" to work where they are damn well told to or else.
There are different types of socialism
Easy mixup between socialism and authoritarianism here...
@@deviladvocate21 Social democracy often gets mixed up with socialism.
Mate where did you get that I was giving an opinion on socialism, like at all? OP was saying workers in 'socialist' countries are forced to work according to what the government says, which is actually authoritarianism, not socialism. True, lots of so-called 'socialist' countries have slipped into authoritarianism, but that doesn't mean socialism in itself entails forced labor.
@@francoisst-hilaire222 Why every socialist country slips to authoritarianism (dictatorship)? because that's what socialism demands in order to establish itself.
Any giving nation before communism and socialism springs in them, have a population who, some of them, owns means of production. To take it all from them, you need militant forces and to maintain it, you have to abolish any democratic process and representative government. Some of people may like it, but when economy crumbles due to lack of capital investments, people will call for change (but the militants who are in power and live on different standards) will suppress them. People will start fleeing the country but the regime will stop them to save face and don't loss working hand. And this was what happened in the Soviet Union, North Korea and the Eastern block, so they banned travel for their citizens and built walls to keep people in.
Baseball was Best because it sounds best on the radio, easy for everyone to follow
If you understand the "infield fly rule", and the "balk"rule and other baseball arcana just by listening to games on the radio-CONGRATULATIONS!
football is simple to just need the transfer which you can look at online while listening and even then you don't need that.
@@GFSLombardo those rules are pretty damn basic lmao
Balk=pitcher fucked up and batter walks infield fly rule = ump can call an out before it’s actually out.
@@GFSLombardo The infield fly rule is not hard to understand once you watch a few games and it's effects are rarely seen since the ball usually ends up caught anyways (a rare exception being the infamous 2012 NL Wild Card game), and I don't blame you on balks. I've been watching baseball since I was 5 and even I could't fully explain to you what constitutes a balk. Fortunately, balks are a rare occurrance and announcers usually do a great job of explaining them when they do occur.
I miss you man, nothing more to say. I come back to this channel wishing I could see just one more video you had the world in front of you it’s a shame such a bright light went out so soon. Rip B4B!
The Green Bay Packers are a fan owned American football team, but they are the only one and were only admitted into the NFL due to their status as one of the oldest teams in football and the strength of their team during the early days of the league.
Holy hell? I never knew that. And I'm an American.
What about the Cardinals are the oldest team.?
Same goes to Saskatchewan roughriders in CFL. GB issued stocks for a green bays resident. A person only allowed to hold 100 shares. And it is $1000 per share!
I bought a share of the Packers 10 years ago... $250.
Green Bay doesn’t actually gain an advantage from being fan owned though. It rises and falls at the same rate as any other above average football team. Granted some owners are shit but it being owned doesn’t make it somehow worse.
*NewZealand.cnt not found*
Considering no one found New Zealand until about 1300...
ZhangtheGreat so someone found new Zealand in 1300 but for the next 400+ years never found Australia OK
Soda King: Eh, no. Try 48k years ago - ua-cam.com/video/HfLVYr38D0Q/v-deo.html
I made the same point. It's a running Geography joke, I assume he's in on it.
I am an old man, you are going to be missed! I kind of have gotten hooked on Poland Ball a couple of years ago and you turned out some of the best.
It's coming home
Just that the home is in France
africa*
Lauri Allan Törni Which was dominated by France
Chaitanya Singh It went next door 🙄
Bolt Mix what does france being superior to africa have to do with football?
Do not start with the African thing, it's idiotic.
All these comments about American sports not being socialist enough, and yet the NBA is the most player-friendly league in the entire world, and the MLB isn't far behind.
Harry Garris yea but football isnt. it sucks as a work embiroment, underpays the cheerleaders, which are extreme athletes, the concussions are a real problem and its very distant from the fans.
+Tim Maximilian,
Very distant from the fans? Depends. Not that much farther than the farthest soccer seating. But more of the fact that in big AFB events, you can usually have about 50% larger audience, so of fucking course there is going to be a lot more seating having out of necessity being farther away. Going back historically to when the American stadiums were similar sizes to the European soccer stadiums for instance - it was actually about even. So yeah, no - bad argument. And anyway, 99% of them watch from TV, and it is far more spectacle, having faaar more scoring on average.
In regards to concussion, it is being treated better - it was a new science. Of which, concussions are starting to become an issue in many soccer leagues now as well, especially some of these female leagues for some reason (not sure why the disparity is there, but there are a few articles that at this point prove that A disparity is there).
Rules in the NFL and CFB in America are fluid, they can easily get changed year by year, for fans, for excitement, for player safety (like clothesline tackles being banned in the 80s)... Compared to the stagnant rule boards that are the slowest moving turtles in all of sports - in the IFAB. Also, the work environment is great, many of these players are starting to play into their 40s, love the game. They are some of the most well paid athletes in the entire world - yes, even compared to your international soccer all-stars.
Underpays cheerleaders? Oh, you mean the side-shows? That is a different thing than actual football, I do hope you realize that right? You realize that cheerleading =/= football? And that at any college or school, the squad cheers for soooo many other sports than just football; and it's really that the NFL teams want to have their own personal squads because it was a staple they grew into from the colleges themselves, that did it not only for them, but others... Which also explains their history in places like Nascar and many others? Each with their own kind of cheerleader if you will. Of course they are going to be faaar more underpaid than the rest of the atheletes. So what?
They aren't the money makers, and to pay them as such is a stupid thing to think. No, they shouldn't be on par with the rest of the actual FB players. That is like paying your secretary as much as your actual engineer. No. Just. No. I don't care if it is legit hard work, yeah, it is. But they still aren't the ones making your money, nor do you need to hire them based on the idea that if they walk out, you don't lose money - because they ARE the side show to everyone.
Tim Maximilian right but the criticism was definitely "bad corporate America". Not "bad football". I'm saying if it's really so bad how did 2 leagues that are so excellent for the players come from the same system?
Corporatism has helped make AFB great; and football is already great, but the spectacle makes it better I should add. I don't see room to criticize either atm here, when we are talking about them in this context.
You sure? The teams are always in the same leagues, they can't get promoted or demoted, sounds to me like a class system which is fixed in place unlike our rel pro system which has even seen Man U been demoted.
Soccer is decently popular in the US, but we have so many other sports that people care more about.
Yes, it's shocking how strong it has grown. 20 years ago the MLS had one soccer stadium and it was a glorified high school field. Now they have some great arenas and a soccer culture where they know WHEN to cheer. I'm not gonna name names, but if you watch a newer team, the crowd sounds like a clueless US crowd where there is an undercurrent of unorganized cheering at all times, vs an older MLS team where they sound and react more like a European club's fans.
Lol, the backgound music for india was a prayer song.
Man I don't like Handegg but the guy you brought over to talk about it is so far out of his element I feel the need to defend it.
Working class were never able to take it for themselves? You have no idea what you're talking about when it comes to American Football. The lower and working class populations are the people who dominate Amerian football.
Yeah, stick to that thought
I'm amazed by what the video talks about for US. It's just BS. Man, American Football is played by everyone. All schools public or private have Am Football teams.
Interesting comment, which sits in complete conflict with the American sporting tradition of big money man coming in and, without any regard for the local supporters, lifts the team, relocates it hundreds, even thousands of miles away, changes their name and identity and all for TV revenue r a new 'target market'. To appreciate why the film is right, you need to appreciate that the vast majority of Europe's billionaire Football teams started out as small amateur clubs formed by friends in workplaces, and social groups. Manchester United were a team of railway workers, Liverpool split from local rivals Everton, formed by members of a local church. You have to start at the bottom and work your way up, getting bigger as you go but remaining with a link to the people and community. American teams [mostly] are formed by a billionaire who buys a franchise from the league based on the projected TV revenue figures and how profitable the stadium will be. Europeans teams are part of the fabric of their city and can't be relocated or rebranded. They dont belong to the people but the people have the power to stop the owner doing whatever they want. How many major US teams were born as small community teams? So when you say the lower and working class populations are the people who dominate American Football, they don't. they're just the paying public who attend games. if they were to ever protest about how the team is run, they run the risk of the owner simply saying screw you and telling the League they want to relocate to another city.
@@TheGiantKillers well said!
@Club de Fútbol The move was blocked by the FA but they were overruled by a court. The backlash was huge, with boycotts of the club and refusal to admit their supporters club into the clubs federation. Three years after the move, the club were forced to relinquish all claim to Wimbledon with all history, trophies and rights returned to the new Wimbledon club. So, basically, what you've found here is the one occasion it's happened in England and a shining example of how supporter power ensured nobody will ever be foolish enough to try it again.
11:03 error 404 New Zealand not found. r/mapswithoutnewzealand.
Rest in peace, man
He die?
Isn't the main reason Baseball was so popular was the invention of the Radio?
Baseball is a very limited-movement game. The batting team only runs around a straight path with clear landmarks, and the catching team has specific zones that they monitor. As long as you know where all of those are, you don't need to see a single thing in the game to envision the whole game in your mind. The pitcher throws a curveball and it's a strike? Easy to imagine. You can't do that with Football (American or otherwise).
Baseball is a product of its time. The rise of radio right when the great depression hit made it destined for success.
CSDragon Exactly
You can with football actually. If you've watched it before.
Baseball was popular long before the radio. Giant scoreboards in places like Times Square, would broadcast pitch-by-pitch updates and draw large crowds. This goes back to the 1860s, after the telegraph was invented and the Civil War was over.
Also, it's quite easy to follow any sport on radio.
@@mirzaahmed6589 I think the key piece of CSDragon's point is how much information can be conveyed for a baseball game vs. radio broadcasting a football game or basketball game.
I tried to do basketball for 2 years in middle school... never was cut out for it, and even after that I still don't understand the movements and plays and whatnot done on the court! It's so fast and hard to follow! (esp. with basketball stadiums, the playing court can be so small & to fit as many audience watchers as say baseball or football...)
The entire American portion of this video is a complete farce. How are ex-Soviet teams better than America? How do you explain the women’s team?
Americans liking sports other than soccer is not a result of keeping down the working class. Other sports are just more popular here, and they are all played by the working class except polo (and maybe lacrosse).
Is it so wrong though? American football basically has no proper club scene at all, just about the only football code which is like that. If you don't play in highschool, then college, then that's pretty much it. It started out as a college sport, and is still a college sport. Football was taken into the hands of the average worker when football clubs were formed in Britain outside of elite institutions, this didn't really happen in America.
He didn’t say ex-soviet, he meant European in general. He goes into detail later in the video on why non-democratic countries suck at team sports. The red on that map of Europe was denoting each country’s status in the USSR, not who was better at football. On that map, the lighter colours are better and the darker ones are worse. America on that chart would be maroon, like Russia.
BrandonjSlippingAway Lol, American football is an EXTREMELY working class sport.
GarrusN7 ahh yeah it's such a "working class sport" that basketball and baseball nearly have 4 times as many participants, and soccer 50% more. And this is a sport that has about 50 people on a team, so if you did the math how many more basketball teams vs Gridiron teams is that?
BrandonjSlippingAway, Last I checked working class american's could get into our pro-sport teams way easier then euro-poors could with there sports as the club scene is very elitist unlike school sports where the pro-teams draft from.
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It didnt fail, just some sports are more popular than others depending on the place u go
Finland:
They only go for sports where they have a chance to beat Sweden. That excludes football.
That's why they came up with unusual sports such as pesäpallo (similar to baseball), wife-carrying, and mobile phone throwing, swamp football... and biathlon. If you think that skiing and rifle-shooting are a strange combination, read some Finnish history.
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Gandhi la tiene clara
Me an Indian watching the video why football failed in India with my TV open broadcasting India VS Sri lanka match CRICKET...now i know the answer
You're very wrong on your perception of American Football. It's not a sport that's under lock and key by the NFL and Collegiate teams, it's just what you see in the mainstream. In reality, almost every public high school in the US has a football team that any student can participate in. You say that "the working class were never able to take it for themselves", yet in the Midwest and South, especially Texas, high school football culture is very big. Who attends these schools? The children of working class families. I think it's important to do a little bit more research on a topic instead of regurgitating bullshit as if the average person in the US doesn't have the opportunity to plait it . American football is not just a spectator sport in the US, it's a sport that's played by average Americans and it's not hard to see.
You can tell as a European he had no concept of a weekend pick-up game of football, basketball or baseball.
Lafly84 dude like some of my best memories were playing tackle football with kids from my neighborhood. You really just need a ball
I’m not sure a state that has high schools opening stadiums that cost up to $70,000,000 is a great example of working class culture.
Cill Wrelia 3v3. 5 sec before you can rush the QB. Whether it was 100° or 25°, you could play. Same with baseball, 3v3 with a tennis ball and pegging was allowed. Trees were bases, etc. I miss my childhood
I understand what you guys mean, his claim is a bit silly, but there is a major difference between the way these sports are played at amateur level.
In England we have 92 professional teams, these are split between 4 divisions with the Premier League being the top division.
We then have roughly 7,000 amateur teams at any given time that are split between around 480 divisions.
All these divisions are linked by promotion and relegation, meaning any of those amateur clubs could one day become pro or vice versa. There’s also the potential for the amateur clubs to play against a pro club in any given season if they progress far enough in the FA Cup.
So theoretically if you had enough mates you could form a team and enter a league, rather than play a pick up game. Then if you and your mates were good enough or even had one extremely lucky run in the cup, you could suddenly be playing an NFL team at their stadium.
I think that’s what they mean by the NFL and collegiate football being locked up.
Huh? I thought football involved throwing a pigskin
/s
*stab*
Do you like work at UA-cam or something?
Justin Y. The state of the art dictates that involves really rich Europeans beating everyone else, sometimes other players leech off Europe to get decent. No pigskin is allowed, and you don't get to use your hands
/s?
I get that you are joking, but seriously, the inaccuracies as a fan of American football really become bloody obvious. What, really? It got a boost because of lack of rights? It didn't go professional because of restrictions? Holy shit. No, football started with a tryout of some modifications of the sports of rugby/soccer at a college once (Harvard) in the 1800s - before really soccer became a thing in the US scene, and it started to get a foothold in academia, and started slowly, building up a following over time, but it was more because it was started in college, ended up building college rivalries - but because of the work ethics and social forces at the time, didn't really move out of a 'thing college kids do' mentality until much later, when it ended up being so popular among the people it became a sort of league (and I could get into the specifics, because that is way overly simplified, but trying to make it fast here). None of this was talked about.
As for 'fans not having ownership of the teams in their minds' - um... They clearly don't know how the fanbases of many of these people by the students (which were the first major teams) have worked out. And how it spread. Dear god, the inaccuracies.
Bloody? Sure, but it was a contact sport from the beginning, it has differed from soccer from the beginning. No shit sherlock. At least compare it to Rugby, which it is far closer to. Dear god man. Dear god.
I felt like I got cancer listening to that drivel, that was just where the hell did you get that assumption from, one right after another when talking about American football, and it's rise.
Also, basketball didn't come to prominence simply because "easy in big cities for lack of space"... While certainly that did help, and it's wide accessibility. It clearly wasn't the main issue... The culture of many of the subgroups in these big cities ended up making it a thing. Space is even more of a concern with baseball - and they made that available in almost all the major cities for everyone a hundred years ago, before American football hit it's rise, and Baseball was considered the national sport of America (now it should be considered American football). Just so much god damn cringe. Ugh. This seems to be a foreigner or a not-major fan of any of these sports, making ideas based on looking at some random facts of the eras, I guess? That is the only way I can see how he came to these conclusions.
Oh, and before I forget it about how he said "did not spread elsewhere" sort of thing - it should be worth mentioning at least some American football leagues have been starting in the last couple of decades in some other nations. Few have had much success (but same can be said of soccer in much of the US at first either); but in some areas, we have already seen a bit of promise. A bit of googling can even show this quite well.
Hey Justin
RIP Brain4breakfast, gone but never forgotten.
This guy still has made some of my favourite videos on UA-cam. That's why I'm still subscribed to him even though it might seem pointless now.
Something that cannot be understated is that Baseball, with it's clearly defined number of positions, works very well when commentated on the radio. American Gridiron Football has always had a love affair with television where it creates a big spectacle and good plays happen over a long time.
That feeling when the script has so much snark I literally can't tell where the jokes end and the facts begin.
"Facts"
Pretty good video but the argument about football in the eastern bloc seemed a bit too ideologically driven and nonfactual.
The national football teams of the communist states of Europe were exceptionally good compared to almost anyone else. The Hungarian national team of the 50s was arguably the most dominant and influential national side of all time. USSR won the Euros in 60 and were runners up in 64, 72 and 88. Czechoslovakia reached the WC final in 62 and won the Euros in 76. Yugoslavia also had some great teams, reaching finals in 60 and 68.
Compare this to France and England who won one tournament on home soil, reaching no other final in the period.
Also, the argument about communism stifling tactical innovation really falls flat when you look at the development of chess in the 20th century.
The point about capitals in the east/south vs industrial towns in the west/north was really interesting though!
He is no more, so he can't even make corrections. RIP
No in India football is played in everywhere and everyone loves it but our scouting of players is very bad
@Karan M Who told you such things that Badminton is more popular than Football. Come to Bengal, Here there are so many teams Like Mohonbagan and East Bengal.
Whoa! The that US football part was awkwardly aggressive. And was there a low key salute to the Soviet Union in that?
Dunno, maybe?
America is trash in football, atleast that´s something sure
That's why they call it gay, they're bad at it.
@@g_g1241 Why is your channel so generic? Ive seen like 80 tf2 channels with that pfp lmao
@@eatingcereal5646 our womens team wins all the time and we still dont give a fuck. We just dont like the sport man, grow up
@@ayylmao2190 after they won the women’s World Cup the American team went to Texas to lose to 15 year old boys team
Couldn't of summed up Canada better.
9:59 Hey, that's the college that I go to
It is such a weird feeling to watch his vids knowing that he has passed. Rest in Piece, bro. We all miss you B4B.
Love how the Guest Inn and Home on the MLB scoreboard is 749 at the time the video reaches 7:49 mark
6:50 my friend paused the video and we were laugh about the sign in the background for wait longer than we should of been
im getting countryhumans vibes from that one
"It's cold right?". Ice hockey
Frost Bites fun.
Australian cricket team : 'scratchy scratchy' :D
Your explanation for The US was pretty bad.
Not even mentioning the whole socialist-or-not part, you missed a lot of very important factors:
-The US was richer than most nations during soccer's boom and soccer is a very "cheap" game. The American society was able to participate in other sports.
-The US is giant as hell and a very divided federation. There's a lot of local patriotism in The US and soccer in the 20th century was mostly about national patriotism for your NT.
-The US is far away from good national teams. Not saying Mexico isn't a good team, but it's not Germany or Brazil and The US (and other NA nations) was fucked by FIFA because the CONMEBOL and CONCACAF became a thing. Basically what this means is that The US was left in a confederation without any major football nations.
-Consumerism in The US is gigantic and baseball and AmE football fit it more. I know I'll get shit from Americans in here for stating facts, but soccer in Europe is for many people a way of fucking life and not entertainment. When Americans say that two clubs have a rivalry, they mostly mean they just don't like each other. When Europeans say that two clubs have a rivalry it's like communists vs. nazis, man. They're ready to pull out a fucking machette on each other's asses if they need to.
You've clearly never been to a Cowboys v Giants game
"The US is giant as hell and a deeply divided federation."How is that relevant? Germany is pretty big and a federation.
Jacob daemonspudguy Tice germany is nowhere close to the same size as the united states
@@ethanfanning9360 never said it was. I was saying that it's also kinda big.
Russia and Brazil are also big and they aren´t divided and confederations
México, even though it´s not a major, it´s not a minor, they have won a gold medal on football (before the world cup was invente, gold medals counted as a world cup, take note of that), also they won a confederations world cup against Brazil, and they have 2 U-17´s world cups, actually, they just lost their third one last year against Brazil
So there´s no way you can say México ain´t a future major nation in football as they are producing more and better players, and sending them to Europe more often
Even in America (the continent) when clubs from México and the US play for the CONCACAF Champions League, the winner is always a mexican team, so you can´t say that the USA has no competent rivals as México is the perfect "one-to-beat" at all points.
In US clubs there´s also a lot (and i really mean a LOT) of mexican players there, who carry the teams, just like Rafa Marquez and Cuauhtemoc Blanco did, as well as Chicharito, Carlos Vela (best player of the entire league), Jonathan Dos Santos and Giovanni Dos Santos (the hero from the 4-2 of 2011).
If the US can´t grow in football it´s just because the don´t want to