28mm lens advantages - Voigtlander Ultron f/2

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  • @averywagg1839
    @averywagg1839 Рік тому +19

    I got a 28 Elmarit about a month ago, and I find that I’m liking the 28mm more that I thought I would. Historically, I’m a 50 or 35 guy, but the 28 provides some real opportunities.

  • @classic.cameras
    @classic.cameras 8 місяців тому +4

    28mm is just a focal length that has really grown on me over the years. I have about 13 different 28's now and just love them.

  • @RikMaxSpeed
    @RikMaxSpeed 5 місяців тому +4

    Really appreciate your clear explanation of the advantages of a 28mm lens, vs 35mm or longer. Thanks!

  • @kristoffergo6294
    @kristoffergo6294 Рік тому +7

    About the purple fringing/ smuding. It has something to do with how steep angle of the light coming out from the back lens to the edge of the sensor. Leica Digital Ms has microprisms built infront the sensor to compensate for this, hence you do not get this purple fringing or smudging on Leica M. I also read somewhere that the glass stacks on Canon cameras are really thick, they also use anti alsiasing filter infront of the sensor. making M mount lenses not so nice on the Canon bodies. Anways amazing images as always!

    • @perrydickerson9055
      @perrydickerson9055 Рік тому

      Thank you, I shoot my Ultron on a Canon RP. Ignorance is indeed bliss, been pretty happy with my match up. The one big annoyance has been infinity focus, you can not focus all the way to the stop. Put that down to the adapter but you might have the right reason. Big pro for this lens is that at small f stops and auto iso it is essentially a point and shoot camera with no need for auto focus. Auto focus was a let down with the RP and kit lens.

    • @pushingfilm
      @pushingfilm  Рік тому

      Thanks! And that explains it I guess

  • @tassadar1977
    @tassadar1977 Рік тому +3

    Some stellar shots in here. In my street photography days, I exclusively used a 28mm elmarit f2.8 . Until, of course, it got harder to shoot in Melbourne without people being offended or feeling attacked.

    • @pushingfilm
      @pushingfilm  Рік тому +2

      Thanks! Yeah it seems to be moving more in that direction unfortunately

    • @doozledumbler5393
      @doozledumbler5393 Рік тому

      @@pushingfilm I find that really weird. Some guy ran straight up to my face at a protest a few months ago to take a shot and I was like, "glad to be of service photographer dude". 😆

    • @tassadar1977
      @tassadar1977 Рік тому +1

      @@doozledumbler5393 I was assaulted by someone and a friend had a knife pulled on him. So I guess the universe was telling me to try another genre.

    • @doozledumbler5393
      @doozledumbler5393 Рік тому

      @@tassadar1977 That sucks.

  • @jethrojacinto2798
    @jethrojacinto2798 Рік тому +1

    I was able to finally get the Elmarit 28 earlier this year and man as someone who mainly shoots street photography living in NYC it has been so nice 😍

  • @pierre-andredalcq2966
    @pierre-andredalcq2966 Рік тому +1

    Outstanding photography sir. Thank you for sharing your work, it's very inspiring.

  • @reidhaithcock
    @reidhaithcock Рік тому +2

    I shot the zeiss 28 for years and years and in the past few months after some gear moving around, I picked up the v2 of the voigtlander. It's just as good, slightly less harsh, and still plenty sharp!

  • @arbolifestyle
    @arbolifestyle Рік тому

    I recently bought the Voigtlander 28mm f2 v2, and I love it… this is my first time using this focal length… 😍

  • @walk_dont_walk
    @walk_dont_walk 11 місяців тому +2

    I think I heard that the "mismatch" of the sensor with other full frame mirrorless cameras is a result of the sensor stack, meaning there are different layers in front of the sensor to for example block infrared. The M-mount lenses, as a result of their size and how deep they sit in the body, project the image on the sensor (or film) in a way that the edges and corners receive their light in a very strong angle and therefor hitting these layers in front of the sensor in a way that they were not designed for.

  • @astonyao2298
    @astonyao2298 Рік тому +1

    Great video with some insightful perspectives on using a 28mm focal length. My personal experience with 28mm wasn't a hit. Starting with a 50mm lens and later transitioning to 35mm, I found 28mm too wide initially. Wearing glasses made it difficult to locate the frame lines in the viewfinder. However, when I tried a 21mm lens along with an excellent external viewfinder, I was completely impressed. I'm quite content with 21mm now and have parted ways with my 28mm lens. Perhaps in the future, I'll revisit 28mm and give it another shot.

    • @pushingfilm
      @pushingfilm  Рік тому +1

      Thanks, Aston! Yeah it's different for everyone hey. 21 sounds fun 😁

  • @thedondeluxe6941
    @thedondeluxe6941 Рік тому +2

    That magenta vignetting will also show up on Leica M8 and M9, and a little bit on the M240 with very wide lenses (21mm), but not on the M10 and M11.

  • @RockWILK
    @RockWILK Рік тому

    Great video. I just shot a full-length feature with two Minolta vintage lenses adapted to a Panasonic S5. A 28mm Telesor, f/2.8, and a 50mm Rokkor, f/1.4. 28mm has always been my favorite focal length. Great images here, thanks so much for sharing

    • @pushingfilm
      @pushingfilm  Рік тому +1

      Sounds great! Thanks for watching :-)

  • @mr.sudbury3856
    @mr.sudbury3856 Рік тому

    I have Leica 28 f/2.8 Elmarit, and love it for street photography

  • @mignav464
    @mignav464 Рік тому

    Very very nice work, both video and photos! 👍

  • @asimplefarmer
    @asimplefarmer Рік тому

    Such a great video and really beautiful images.

  • @epstar83
    @epstar83 Рік тому

    Some spectacular images in there! I’ve had a bit of a love-hate relationship with 28mm lenses on Leica M bodies, only because I find the frame lines a little too close to the edge of the viewfinder. The new 28mm Ultron is a spectacular lens, I had it and sold it only because of my aversion to that focal length on Leica M bodies.
    The issue with M lenses on mirrorless is mostly related to thickness of the sensor’s cover glass. On Leica M and SL bodies they use very thin cover glass, normally less than 1mm in thickness. Sony and Canon cameras use a thicker fitting. But there are ways to deal with the colour shifts, particularly in Capture 1 you can make LCC profiles that will help to correct the sides of the frame. It’s not a perfect solution but it works. I should also mention the longer the focal length the less of a problem it becomes. 50mm lenses should work quite well on most mirrorless bodies.

    • @pushingfilm
      @pushingfilm  Рік тому +1

      Hey, thanks very much and sorry for the late reply! That makes sense, I've heard something similar. Yeah I found that 50 was mostly fine or easier to correct.

  • @PeteEdmunds
    @PeteEdmunds Рік тому

    Love the two compositions of the boat and ramp with people disembarking. I Moved from RX100 to Fuji GFX system with GF45, approx 35mm. But now still carry the RX100 alongside the GFX to give me 28mm equivalent field of view for deep perspective shots. 28 does have a certain magic.

  • @philgelb7726
    @philgelb7726 Рік тому

    I bought the new 28 Ultron and it is insane bang for buck. Loving the 28 focal length too

  • @ghassanmatta5629
    @ghassanmatta5629 Рік тому

    Have it for my Leica M film body, adapted it to the x-pro3 too.
    Loved using it so much on both. 28mm and 42mm équivalent that I ended up getting the 27mm Ultron recently released for c-mount.

  • @watersignphotography
    @watersignphotography Рік тому +1

    Very informative video about how to shoot 28mm. I've always struggled a bit with how to use that focal length. I currently have a Fuji 18mm (28mm equivalent) which is a superb lens but I constantly think I should have got the 23mm (35mm equivalent) instead. I think I better understand now how to go about using it - thanks!!

    • @pushingfilm
      @pushingfilm  Рік тому +2

      Glad it helped! Yeah the Fuji 18 is a great option :-)

  • @DidierMOULINPhotography
    @DidierMOULINPhotography Рік тому

    I discovered the 28mm focal length quite late and since. I have to say that I like it a lot for the reason you mention.
    My trinity in the Nikon world are 28 1.4 / 58 1.4 / 105 1.4
    In the Leica world the Q is the best choice I think

  • @dustysprockets1505
    @dustysprockets1505 Рік тому

    Another great review Hashem! I can appreciate the uses of 28, but I'm a 50 user, since my surrounds aren't as built up and crowded as these city scapes!

    • @pushingfilm
      @pushingfilm  Рік тому

      Thanks man! Yeah that makes sense :-)

  • @daveed4475
    @daveed4475 Рік тому

    I’ve never been drawn to 28, but after watching your vid, I want to explore it. I have an excellent 28mm Minolta MD mount which I’m going to adapt to mirrorless and explore. Thanks for this excellent review.

  • @dummybert
    @dummybert Рік тому

    I got one precisely last weekend (second hand). I'm more a 35mm and 50mm, but I think that for certain situations and styles (photojournalism) is a great option. Looking forward for more of your pictures to get some inspiration. Cheers!

  • @brooksilg
    @brooksilg Рік тому

    If you're interested in shooting M-Mount lenses on digital bodies with thicker sensors (like the Canon R6, Sony A7Rx), there are modifications out there to upgrade to an ultrathin sensor which will greatly improve or remove or at the very least improve the issue for M-mount lenses. I'm looking into the Kolari Ultrathin mod for my Sony A7Rii since I shoot exclusively m-mount lenses these days.
    EDIT: Oh and fantastic video by the way, this motivated me to pick up a 28 ultron and shoot 28 again, thanks!

  • @vampolascott36
    @vampolascott36 Рік тому

    I use the 28 version 2. It’s one of the best m-mount lenses I own. It works well enough for me that I have no desire to sell it for something more expensive.

  • @juhaimmonen
    @juhaimmonen Місяць тому +1

    yep going from 24 to 21 was HUGE

  • @doozledumbler5393
    @doozledumbler5393 Рік тому +1

    Are these all your shots? So many bangers!
    Is 28mm a lot easier to zone focus than with a 35mm or are they fairly similar?

    • @stevenstevensteven4
      @stevenstevensteven4 Рік тому +2

      I find that there's around one stop difference in Zone focusing between 35 and 28. With the 28 I'm comfortable at F8, with the 35 it needs to be F11. If you can zone focus at F8 on a 35, you'll be able to do it at f5.6 on a 28. You gain a stop.

    • @pushingfilm
      @pushingfilm  Рік тому +1

      Thanks man, yeah it's a bit easier I'd say.

  • @baladino
    @baladino Рік тому

    Thanks for the video Hash and your images are great ! Theres a certain dynamism in many of them. Did you Trent Parke use an Elmarit 28mm for the images in his latest book ?

    • @pushingfilm
      @pushingfilm  Рік тому

      Thank you! Yeah I wouldn't be surprised looking at his work

  • @Boarder5566
    @Boarder5566 Рік тому

    When I bought my M6 this was my first lens. I have other lenses now, but most of the time the 28 is on my camera.

  • @twinspowertv1078
    @twinspowertv1078 Рік тому +1

    Just got a 28mm Summicron ASPH V1, video couldn’t have came at a more perfect time. Also, I’d really like some info if that quick rewind lever you put on your MA, if there’s a special way to put it on or it just snaps on? Thanks!

    • @pushingfilm
      @pushingfilm  Рік тому +1

      Hey, I have the Soom one which just slides over the rewind knob and tightens with a tiny screw using the included allen key. Sorry I just recently saw your previous messages asking about it!

    • @twinspowertv1078
      @twinspowertv1078 Рік тому

      @@pushingfilm no worries! I got the soom as well per your recommendation! I’ll use the wrench to tighten it. Thank you for the response! 🙌🏾 I have an MA as well per your videos :)

  • @_buttertigers
    @_buttertigers Рік тому

    I had this lens for the exact reasons you mentioned, however I guess I should say that in terms of build quality this lens is definitely not up to snuff for a few reasons.
    The lens started wobbling after a few months of ownership, some portions of the internal is plastic, if that wears out then you'll have a loose wobbly lens.
    My copy of the Ultron was also back focusing about 0.3m. That's significant enough for it to be basically unuseable quickly, wide open since you have to account for the back focusing and you can no longer trust the RF patch.
    The new ASPH I also went into a store to try, BOTH copies they had in store backfocused and even the staff at the shop was upset at that... It also has a minimum focus distance of 0.5m, so all the muscle memory built into that 0.7m minimum focus distance is thrown off by how close the ASPH version can focus.
    These are obviously fairly nitpicky details, but figured I'd mention this since these are all the things that led me to pulling the trigger on a 28mm Elmarit ASPH, which you can get for about 1.5x the price of the new Ultron.

    • @pushingfilm
      @pushingfilm  Рік тому

      Hey, yeah I think I remember you messaged me about this! Shame to hear that it didn't work out. I wonder if you just had really bad luck with your copies, or if it's quite common... Mine has held up quite well and I've taken it through a lot. No focus issues either (but I guess I'd need a digital M to test it accurately)

    • @_buttertigers
      @_buttertigers Рік тому

      fingers crossed for you!@@pushingfilm

  • @shootswithcoops
    @shootswithcoops Рік тому +1

    looking pretty jacked brother

    • @pushingfilm
      @pushingfilm  Рік тому +1

      Haha thanks man, I'm at the tail end of a long slow bulk 😅

  • @devroombagchus7460
    @devroombagchus7460 Рік тому

    Thanks! Great pictures. I have version two and I love it. The flashy chrome is hidden by the sunhood.😊 The only thing that bothers me is that with the hood, I sometimes find it difficult to turn the diaphragm ring. I can't feel it.

    • @pushingfilm
      @pushingfilm  Рік тому

      Oh I see! Is the hood still included with the lens?

    • @wilmergreen9480
      @wilmergreen9480 10 місяців тому

      @@pushingfilmunfortunately the hood is now quite an expensive accessory

  • @Seapatico
    @Seapatico Рік тому

    I'd love to hear your thoughts on the new version. I've had the same as you for years, and I really love it -- partly for it's less contrasty look. I shoot it on the M10, and I'm worried that it'll start to look to modern and contrasty with a much improved lens, lol. So I'd be curious.
    Also, your work is wonderful.

    • @pushingfilm
      @pushingfilm  Рік тому

      Thank you! I hope to try it some time, but am also quite curious about the Zeiss 28 2.8... would be cool to test both!

  • @fakejazznut
    @fakejazznut Рік тому +1

    When I look back through my photos, a lot of my favorites were shot with a 28mm. It’s not as “safe” as a 35mm, wide and challenges you to compose with more depth.

  • @sorenschwichtenberg7665
    @sorenschwichtenberg7665 Рік тому +1

    Interesting video! Try to call it Foogt-lender next time ;) best regards from Germany 😛

  • @jjjj5452
    @jjjj5452 7 місяців тому

    I like your style. Subscribed!

  • @ianforber
    @ianforber Рік тому

    I have a 28mm by owning a Leica Q2 and 35mm Voitglander on my M11. Both are amazing but I wonder whether 28mm is too close to 35mm. Have you ever used a 24mm lens and, if so, what did you think vs a 28mm?

    • @pushingfilm
      @pushingfilm  Рік тому

      I havent used a 24 much... but when I have, I don't notice as much of a difference compared to say 20 or wider

  • @unmecvrai
    @unmecvrai 26 днів тому +1

    I know you like film photography, but have you tried a Leica M9 ? It's similar to the Kodachrome esthetic in numeric.

    • @pushingfilm
      @pushingfilm  26 днів тому

      @@unmecvrai not yet, but I've always wanted to!

  • @NCSTalkid
    @NCSTalkid Рік тому +1

    I love 28 as city street lens. And foodie lens

  • @qvarfoto
    @qvarfoto 11 місяців тому

    Great video mate, cheers!
    I've really tried to appreciate 28mm in general (Canon FD system) but I struggle with it as I'm more of a tight lens kind of guy myself. But one day I might learn, who knows. :)

  • @robmitchell7355
    @robmitchell7355 Рік тому

    I have read that it has to do with the thickness of the sensor stack - at the steep angle of incidence at the edges of the sensor it has to go through a thick stack and causes more artifact.

  • @AdityaVarma
    @AdityaVarma 10 місяців тому

    Hey! Great video. Please help me with the hood. Where can i get it?

  • @grainybrews
    @grainybrews Рік тому

    I've been eyeing this off for a while now... 🤔🤔🤔

  • @Narsuitus
    @Narsuitus 9 місяців тому

    I do not have a Voigtländer 28mm f/2 for my Leica. The closest I have is a 28mm f/2 Zeiss Distagon for my Nikon SLR. I assume there is little difference in image quality between the Zeiss and the Voigtländer.

  • @krolldavid
    @krolldavid 4 місяці тому

    I briefly tried the new one. I’m not sure I like it better. The rendering looked less ‘organic’ to my eyes. Perhaps slightly sharper but I prefer the feel of the images I get from the version 1.

    • @pushingfilm
      @pushingfilm  4 місяці тому

      Interesting! I only examined the new one in hand, but haven't shot it.

  • @yeahdude7184
    @yeahdude7184 Рік тому

    I kind of cursed myself in a way when I tried voigtlander on a whim. I got the 21mm f/4 ( used on xpro2) and 40mm 1.4. Then eventually the 35mm 2.5. I've since traded the 40 and 35, but every lens that wasn't voigtlander after that, I have not liked at all. I can't use AF anymore. Though very helpful, It just feels awful now. My 21mm has become my primary lens. I feel most at home using it. I may get the 3.5 version and then a 35mm and a 50mm for occasion.

  • @athmaid
    @athmaid Рік тому

    As a German, the pronunciation isn't thaaat far off. So who cares. Great content as always!

  • @saschakreuzberger6612
    @saschakreuzberger6612 5 місяців тому

    Your pronunciation of Voigtländer is certainly not very German, but at least it's pretty sexy. Great work. 👌💚

  • @StevenMacgarret1998
    @StevenMacgarret1998 24 дні тому

    between this an zeiss 28mm zm, which one do u prefer

    • @pushingfilm
      @pushingfilm  21 день тому

      Hey, I've never used the Zeiss 28 so can't really say. I do love Zeiss lenses though, and imagine it would be sharper (if that's a priority).

  • @brianhinesley
    @brianhinesley 10 місяців тому

    recently bought a 12mm 7artisan t2.8 for my fuji.. still trying to get use to being that wide LOL, but i am a true 50mm kind of guy, i don't come across enormous crowds that i can walk right into, so i find wider than 50 to be frustrating because i don't want to walk into my subject, it's not like NY crowds LOL

  • @VariTimo
    @VariTimo Рік тому +3

    I’m German and I mostly pronounce it Voigtländer. Fohgtländer is quite unpleasant to say.

  • @extremelydave
    @extremelydave Рік тому +1

    24-28mm rectilinear lenses are just the bees knees. If you have a ton of megapixels you can crop to your whim and it will still look good.

  • @steffsteffson
    @steffsteffson Рік тому +2

    In German it is (F)ist (O)pen GTL (E)nd DER :)

  • @thomasclark631
    @thomasclark631 Місяць тому

    I have a VM 40mm f1.4 with a silver front ring and cover it with a black step ring.

  • @sebastianrau5780
    @sebastianrau5780 Рік тому

    Apologie accepted, Greetings from Germany 👍🏻

  • @jliang70
    @jliang70 Рік тому

    On the wide lens I use Sigma 28mm F1.4, on the normal lens I use 40mm, Sigma version of the lens came from their cine lens. I actually own the trilogy of lens, 28mm, 40mm and 105mm F1.4. I never quite like the 35mm and 50mm. I like 28mm and 40mm.

  • @philociraptor6751
    @philociraptor6751 9 місяців тому

    Thanks for this video. BTW, does anyone know which book is being leafed through at 6:38 ?

    • @pushingfilm
      @pushingfilm  9 місяців тому +1

      Thanks for watching. That was Joel Meyerowitz: Where I Find Myself: A Lifetime Retrospective

    • @philociraptor6751
      @philociraptor6751 9 місяців тому

      Huge thanks ! 😀@@pushingfilm

  • @picsbynate
    @picsbynate Рік тому

    where is the shot at 6:32 taken?

  • @be8059
    @be8059 Рік тому

    What about zeiss 28mm f2.8?

    • @pushingfilm
      @pushingfilm  Рік тому

      I actually considered that first at the time, since I shoot Zeiss 35 and 50, but I didn't have the budget. Still very curious to try one though.

  • @slippinjimmothy
    @slippinjimmothy Рік тому

    I find that I like 28. Then remember that I have to stand really close to people, so I switch back to 50.
    Edit: that being said, 55mm on 6x7 is my favorite focal length, which has equivalent FOV.

    • @pushingfilm
      @pushingfilm  Рік тому

      Nice, the 55 f4 on the pentax 6x7 is amazing, if that's the one you have!

  • @xjc1988
    @xjc1988 Рік тому +1

    If you can afford to spend more money, go for the new V2. The difference in image quality is huge.

  • @mpk33
    @mpk33 Рік тому

    Hashem,
    The proper German pronunciation is easily solved by putting Voigtländer into Google Translate from English to German & listen to it using the voice mode.
    The German letter V (fau) sounds more like an F, and the a with the umlaut on top makes it sound like going from ahh to ehh...so Foit-lender, to me anyways. I learnt it from scratch over 3 1/2 years.
    Anyways, see how you go, man! 🤙🏼

  • @TravisLatam
    @TravisLatam 4 місяці тому

    I believe the mismatch with digital sensors, outside of Leica, has to do with the thickness of the digital sensors and how the angles of light approach the photoreceptors. Leica has the thinnest sensors in the game and, as such, the lenses work best on them!

  • @chrisloomis1489
    @chrisloomis1489 Рік тому

    Please no POLITICAL ...images here , I do not visit your channel to be " schooled " about social issues .... Stick to the human tale not the Political Pundit or Propagandists images please ... Thank You : C .

    • @pushingfilm
      @pushingfilm  Рік тому +9

      Pfft, you really think that's what I'm trying to do? How about if you don't like it then don't watch.

  • @TheChosenOne_
    @TheChosenOne_ Рік тому +2

    Dont worry about the pronunciation. It wasnt too long ago when I found out that the "i" is silent. About the lens, I'm sure its great but personally I'm saving up for an Elmarit because the Voigtländer focus tap is just a bit too small for my liking and I can only use it with my finger tip instead of finger itself (if its the same as the one on the 35mm color skopar).