But many of those movies are impractical. Like cyberpunk shows where looters would spend their money for tech when a normal person would consider getting food or just basic needs given the scarcity. Either the richest and the most hopeless would act like that. And they tend not to be the majority
Waoo when Phill said, "why not make the real places where people can get the REAl experiences". yes, why billions spent on Meta and not in the real world.. great one
I don't know if this comment is going to get to the poster of this video, but the talk about visiting a united match really showed how much the metaverse hater is so blunt and just a hater with no real reason, because I've been a united fan my whole life and I've never been to a united game, I don't have the money, nor the time or energy to go to old Trafford to see a united game in person, and tbh I'm not sure I want to anymore considering what happened in Indonesia where the losing opposition fans broke out a fight and killed hundreds of people. So yeah the metaverse is important regardless of how many hatera are out there and it's inevitable, they said when you're succeeding you'll have so many haters who'll look for your flaws to point out to people instead of your progress
VR is limitless, while real places and experiences are not. Least of which is not having to get out of bed. Ppl are already doing that via the interwebz. It allows anyone to belong somewhere. Most crucial, ESCAPING REALITY (immersion) is absolutely the driving force for many. Japan is already facing it in their youth.
Ok you lost me when you said that you need to be in the stadium to experience the football... Most people for 80 years have been doing it from far away (newspapers, radios, tv's, sports bars..)
I like the concept of Augmented reality similar to the Pokemon Go that was very popular a few years ago. To see more statistics would be able to learn things more effectively.
Nonsense!! Immersion is absolutely desired and sought after. Why do PlayStation capabilities keep improving if more immersion and realism is not desired? Look at Call of Duty: Modern Warfare and Cyberpunk 2077 -- both praised for their next-generation graphics and realism -- I say they are mini Metaverses. Look at Unreal Engine 5.1 capabilities which was just released -- the technology to make immersive environments continues to evolve in exciting ways. I HATE IT that all these fund managers and financial speculators are entering the space looking for a quick shekel, looking for ways to advertise, looking for ways to sell digital things which cost next to nothing to make. The Metaverse WILL BE created when the right people are involved.
Most people think that investing in cryptocurrencies is just buying and holding until it rises, but the best investments on cryptocurrency is by putting it on trading/mining.
I used to buy crypto especially Shiba and Bitcoin and hold them and I suffered a great loss due to the crash, but ever since I got introduced to expert James max through a friend who stays in Canada.
Nice! Broke out of the podcast model of still images and sound wave video illustrations! Honestly, high quality remote video and some stock art would also work well, but y’all are improving in engaging content for this platform!
As a VR owner. He's missing the point, the current tech DOES not give that type of experience, it's bulky and you can't stay on it for more than 30 minutes without getting dizzy. Unless we get Sword Art Online or Johnny Quest level of tech in VR this is still way too early and not profitable
Interestingly enough we have neuralink currently working on a tech which could potentially stream video into your brains and use your brains to control things with your mind, so this in general could allow somewhat SAO experience, even tho it would require risky surgery. But yea, its decades away until its actually a thing which can be used properly for what it is meant to be.
Virtual Reality seems like something that will be part of a possible good future, but any involvement from meta in that future sounds like a dystopian nightmare, the model meta is presenting is like the WORST possible version of the Virtual future that we can get.
I think what they missed from the gamer mindset is the custom aspect of those game.....mindcraft, Roblox, fortnite all have a HUGE custom aspect which you will never get from someone else designing the out put
A: No. No matter how cool it looks in movies like 'Johnny Mnemonic' or 'Surrogates' or 'The Matrix', no one really wants to live in a pod, wear a vr headset all day and night long just to talk to or do everyday business transactions with other people who are literally in the cubicle right next to them. And think about it this way and ask yourself this: What happens when the electricity and wifi goes out, for whatever reason?
The issue with the metaverse is that is a video game made by non game developers. I am not saying the developers are not game dev, I am saying the higher ups are not and have no idea, hence why this looks like a game from the late 90s. The metaverse is not solving any problem nor is it improving on any of the current experiences.
I don't believe too much in VR except in a video game kind of setup and agree with the fact that people wanna get the experience or a unique one should I say but the technology would have to be there first and it's simply not at this point. However AR definitely is marketable and has huge potential use. As for Meta...well I like to brighten my day by laughing so thats that. 😂
filmmakers haven't latched onto VR workflow yet - most of the content coming out is overthought, crass, amateurish... early days - wait till David Lynch or PT Anderson discover 3d180
Nice Zoe and the Tech News Briefing team. Thanks for the good interview with the industry's insider Metaverse skeptic and hater. I still have a sliver of doubt the Zoe on stage is not a WSJ hired body double to convince us Zoe is not an AI creation. 🤔
I think once the graphics are so realistic that it will cause you to doubt which is the real world, this one or that one? people will get more involved and will become a more fulfilling experience. Don't really know how long that will take.
As a VR user, let me share my opinions. 1. Immersion is in fact important. That's one of the reason people buy it for games like half life alyx. BUT it isn't there yet. Rendering requirements, FOV, pixel density, and lens sweet spot clarity has to improve much more to feel like you are looking through your eyes. Majority of the people will not ditch their tv or monitors at the moment. Imagine watching a sports game or participating in an event like you are there. Thats the goal here. When it gets to that level, I believe there would be mass adaption. 2. The platform's growth has to be organic. Just look at vrchat which has more usage. 3. People don't believe digital assets have any value in vr. But I disagree. Once a platform matures to a point where users and companies can create a universe that people want to be part of, purchasable assets will be valuable. Kind of similar to in-app purchases on our phones or games. 4. productivity of vr/ar can be a driving force for adaption. Imagine having remote meetings like you are there. or have 4 monitors of any size in a virtual work environment. Still not there yet. 5. VR/AR is like ps1. we are like 5 generations out from a usable product, maybe more.
Every decade people are moving towards more and more isolated space. Thanks to covid the workspace and relationships have accelerated it's transition to virtual space. Think of it this way, instead of twitch you watch favourite video game streamer on live from a stadium with a crowd , or having a whole office system setup with max config just by wearing a glass. VR is not to replace the reality, VR Is to upgrade our current virtual setup.
I understand the hate that people have for the Metaverse, but some of the arguments that Phil made were downright dumb, embarrassing really. Like his counter to a virtual game experice: "if you want to experience a game, go to the physical game". Wow, thanks Phil, hadn't thought of that at all
Yeah his point on that fact that you can experience it was weak. I mean some people cannot experience it for instance they want to experience a concert from one of they favorite artist but well can't (flight price ticket/lodging/administrative paperwork etc...) in this example the VR experience has its sense. But as of now we are not there yet as some technological aspect needs to be worked on imo.
@@wzt9376 we are actually very close. There are already some amazing virtual concert and shows even stands up in VR which you can participate with others (of course the number of audience will be much smaller than the stadiums)
I don't know if this comment is going to get to the poster of this video, but the talk about visiting a united match really showed how much the metaverse hater is so blunt and just a hater with no real reason, because I've been a united fan my whole life and I've never been to a united game, I don't have the money, nor the time or energy to go to old Trafford to see a united game in person, and tbh I'm not sure I want to anymore considering what happened in Indonesia where the losing opposition fans broke out a fight and killed hundreds of people. So yeah the metaverse is important regardless of how many hatera are out there and it's inevitable, they said when you're succeeding you'll have so many haters who'll look for your flaws to point out to people instead of your progress
while i will grant phil libin that immersion isn't something i always seek gaming in vr is freaking spectacular and it's allure shouldn't be dismissed.
I think this metaverse idea is brilliant,but they should focus on what it can do and what it's capable of doing..if I owned metaverse,i would make it a perfect world for the handicapable people who want to be able to walk,a place where they can walk through parks or climb mountains or walk around New York or London..or that person who can't use their limbs,to be able to pick up a child,or a kitten and a puppy,or go bowling..what about vets with ptsd..put them in a calmer place,mentally ill patients,autistic,or older people who want to go back in time,the 40's and 50's...metaverse can do this and get medical contracts,but they have the wrong staff running it all..they cater to no one in particular and it's not working..focus on where it would work best.. just a thought..
Haha I love this comment cuz it's so true, the amount of stupid things we do today are more repeated than the actual useful ones, the metaverse sounds stupid but just one good metaverse with easy access and features will make everyone go buy a VR headset
Why not interview some actual users and would-be users of "metaverse" technology instead of authors or founders who have an obvious conflict of interest?
People meeting virtually saves gas and easier cooperation and doing research in a virtual environment might just cure cancer ( there is more money in treating cancer)
I would love to have access to a metaverse that will give me access to the things that I dont have access to. For example: an operating room allowing to enter into a surgical intervention. I want to become a virtual surgeon cause I cannot a real one. I would also love to become a fetus inside of a womb for 9 months. I would also love to be a parasite or a bacteria or cancergenic cell inside someone for a period of time. Living in the stomach of somebody else. Or a piece of flesh tissue of the heart of somebody. These are things I cannot experience in my own that I would love to experience. To think that I want to become a virtual disneyland visitor through a metaverse and avoiding going physically to Florida is delusional. I want to go to Florida in person.
What is so stupid about meta vision for VR is the 3d avatars, mimicking humans in real time 3d is a too hard problem to chew, we are decades away from jumping over the "uncanny valley",they are not stupid they know that but they thought they were forced to do in order to leverage their past success as a social platform, they must pivot out if this idea of social interactions via 3d avatar FAST, limit social interaction too easier things such as audio or chat and invest their r&d effort in inventing the successor of the mouse to interact in this virtual world in an efficient way ( virtual hands is very intuitive but not efficient at all, raising your arms up in the air is only physically suntainable for 5-10 minutes )
My biggest concern are the glasses. I fly since a few weeks with a FPV drone which uses glasses and this is great for 10 minutes. I think I will be able to push it to be comfortable for 30 minutes efentually. But watching an entire football game or attend a full hour meeting in those glasses, I could not imagine doing that. Well, eventually one will be able to feed the information directly into the brain, then it might become doable. For now, it seems just not to be the right time yet.
Everyday we greatly underestimate human ingenuity. VR & AR is the future. The only thing we don't know is how quickly we get there. The only bottle neck today is the hardware & content. What happens when apple rolls out their headsets?
I think Metaverse is similar to Simcity. They are probably selling virtual properties. They must be thinking people will be interested in virtual Capitalism, with some links to speculation in virtual money. and all these will belong to Meta.
Agree, the strongest component is virtual goods economy, it is not specific to VR (ebooks or music were here long ago) but VR is a great marketplace to buy, sell and experience these mass consumption goods of the 21st century
The metaverse is next level technology and the future. Unfortunately, this idea was not the making of Mark Zuckerberg. Just as he took Facebook from the original people who conceptualuzed it he took the idea of the metaverse from someone else. The difference is that they were smart enough not to give Mark the whole idea. Its like he gave them the whole voncept of a ferrari but not the engine and how it us built. This is why the metaverse has stuttered. I know the developer personally, and if anyone on this thread is interested in this or wants to get the real metaverse launched, then contact me..
Right now, at the same time as the match between Iran and Wales, people are protesting in Baluchistan, #Zahedan, and the repression force of the Islamic Republic is killing people with direct fire. #WALIRN #Qatar2022
That guy doesn't realize that people who are true sneaker collectors, don't collect sneakers to wear them! 😂They collect them just to have them! The fact that the avatars don't have feet is irrelevant in that regard!
Hi Zoe, nice to see you. Regarding metaverse, the tech leaders still debate it cause there are advantages and automatically disadvantages. Some of advantages had shared by one of your host but the advantages shared by one of your host too. It consequence of tech, tech created by human and humans aren't ever perfect🙏
Like it or not, metaverse is the future. So many of the work and other things we do are done in the virtual environment. VR will help augment and enrich these experiences, open this opportunities to others and expand the scope of what can be done
These supposed experts assume everyone thinks like them. I enjoy VR games and spend a few hours every week with diffrent games. I don't care so much about the Metaverse yet but I might someday if it ever works well.
Betting against an entire technology is never smart. The fact that Phil's counter argument is "just go to a soccer game in real life" and "improve the physical world" makes me even more bullish that the AR/VR and consumer blockchain is inevitable.
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it's an epic fail people barely use 3-D glasses to watch 3-D movies. And yes of course all these people are big believers in it cause they all go make money and profit all of it ironically vertronically the air trono make radio player 1 a reality🤣🤣🤣
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I'm not a fan of the metaverse. But I'm not so arrogant and privileged as to believe that others won't find in the metaverse what they are missing, simply because I myself can do the things I want to in the real one. Good things and bad things are going to come out of the metaverse; but what is important is that it'll be DIFFERENT and that is worth your attention more than your judgement.
Meta verse might be popular like in the movies if the world turns to a terrible place.
But many of those movies are impractical. Like cyberpunk shows where looters would spend their money for tech when a normal person would consider getting food or just basic needs given the scarcity.
Either the richest and the most hopeless would act like that. And they tend not to be the majority
Waoo when Phill said, "why not make the real places where people can get the REAl experiences". yes, why billions spent on Meta and not in the real world.. great one
Because there’s a lot you can see in VR that you can’t in real life
I don't know if this comment is going to get to the poster of this video, but the talk about visiting a united match really showed how much the metaverse hater is so blunt and just a hater with no real reason, because I've been a united fan my whole life and I've never been to a united game, I don't have the money, nor the time or energy to go to old Trafford to see a united game in person, and tbh I'm not sure I want to anymore considering what happened in Indonesia where the losing opposition fans broke out a fight and killed hundreds of people. So yeah the metaverse is important regardless of how many hatera are out there and it's inevitable, they said when you're succeeding you'll have so many haters who'll look for your flaws to point out to people instead of your progress
VR is limitless, while real places and experiences are not. Least of which is not having to get out of bed.
Ppl are already doing that via the interwebz. It allows anyone to belong somewhere.
Most crucial, ESCAPING REALITY (immersion) is absolutely the driving force for many. Japan is already facing it in their youth.
Ok you lost me when you said that you need to be in the stadium to experience the football... Most people for 80 years have been doing it from far away (newspapers, radios, tv's, sports bars..)
I like the concept of Augmented reality similar to the Pokemon Go that was very popular a few years ago. To see more statistics would be able to learn things more effectively.
Great honest discussion about VR, is there a longer version of this discussion online ?
This metaverse debate reminded me a lot of Plato vs Aristotle debate about what is reality hahahahah
It requires an immense lack of imagination to reduce possible human experiences to only the ones we already had (in humankind history).
Darn it I wanted more!!! Cmon Zoe just 5 more minutes.
Nonsense!! Immersion is absolutely desired and sought after. Why do PlayStation capabilities keep improving if more immersion and realism is not desired? Look at Call of Duty: Modern Warfare and Cyberpunk 2077 -- both praised for their next-generation graphics and realism -- I say they are mini Metaverses. Look at Unreal Engine 5.1 capabilities which was just released -- the technology to make immersive environments continues to evolve in exciting ways. I HATE IT that all these fund managers and financial speculators are entering the space looking for a quick shekel, looking for ways to advertise, looking for ways to sell digital things which cost next to nothing to make. The Metaverse WILL BE created when the right people are involved.
Herman really know what’s him talking about. Phil really need to experience more VR before making those comments .😂
Agreed. Phil just hated it without really trying it
This was way too short. 😂 Could have watched these guys go back and forth for an hour.
Same
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I used to buy crypto especially Shiba and Bitcoin and hold them and I suffered a great loss due to the crash, but ever since I got introduced to expert James max through a friend who stays in Canada.
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Really fantastic panel, and excellent moderator work.
Nice! Broke out of the podcast model of still images and sound wave video illustrations! Honestly, high quality remote video and some stock art would also work well, but y’all are improving in engaging content for this platform!
The metaverse isn't happening. Most people prefer to live in the real world.
As a VR owner. He's missing the point, the current tech DOES not give that type of experience, it's bulky and you can't stay on it for more than 30 minutes without getting dizzy. Unless we get Sword Art Online or Johnny Quest level of tech in VR this is still way too early and not profitable
Interestingly enough we have neuralink currently working on a tech which could potentially stream video into your brains and use your brains to control things with your mind, so this in general could allow somewhat SAO experience, even tho it would require risky surgery. But yea, its decades away until its actually a thing which can be used properly for what it is meant to be.
@@Zripas It will be useful one day, but not in coming years with this tech we have
Virtual Reality seems like something that will be part of a possible good future, but any involvement from meta in that future sounds like a dystopian nightmare, the model meta is presenting is like the WORST possible version of the Virtual future that we can get.
I think what they missed from the gamer mindset is the custom aspect of those game.....mindcraft, Roblox, fortnite all have a HUGE custom aspect which you will never get from someone else designing the out put
They are also primarily made for children who live in a world of simple things.
A: No. No matter how cool it looks in movies like 'Johnny Mnemonic' or 'Surrogates' or 'The Matrix', no one really wants to live in a pod, wear a vr headset all day and night long just to talk to or do everyday business transactions with other people who are literally in the cubicle right next to them. And think about it this way and ask yourself this:
What happens when the electricity and wifi goes out, for whatever reason?
The issue with the metaverse is that is a video game made by non game developers. I am not saying the developers are not game dev, I am saying the higher ups are not and have no idea, hence why this looks like a game from the late 90s. The metaverse is not solving any problem nor is it improving on any of the current experiences.
I don't believe too much in VR except in a video game kind of setup and agree with the fact that people wanna get the experience or a unique one should I say but the technology would have to be there first and it's simply not at this point. However AR definitely is marketable and has huge potential use. As for Meta...well I like to brighten my day by laughing so thats that. 😂
filmmakers haven't latched onto VR workflow yet - most of the content coming out is overthought, crass, amateurish... early days - wait till David Lynch or PT Anderson discover 3d180
you my friend need some half life alyx in your life. tbh the current tech is amazing, it's just too expensive still.
Beautiful debate
Nice Zoe and the Tech News Briefing team. Thanks for the good interview with the industry's insider Metaverse skeptic and hater. I still have a sliver of doubt the Zoe on stage is not a WSJ hired body double to convince us Zoe is not an AI creation. 🤔
I think once the graphics are so realistic that it will cause you to doubt which is the real world, this one or that one? people will get more involved and will become a more fulfilling experience. Don't really know how long that will take.
What mmhmm thinks about oops accident at meta?
As a VR user, let me share my opinions.
1. Immersion is in fact important. That's one of the reason people buy it for games like half life alyx. BUT it isn't there yet. Rendering requirements, FOV, pixel density, and lens sweet spot clarity has to improve much more to feel like you are looking through your eyes. Majority of the people will not ditch their tv or monitors at the moment. Imagine watching a sports game or participating in an event like you are there. Thats the goal here. When it gets to that level, I believe there would be mass adaption.
2. The platform's growth has to be organic. Just look at vrchat which has more usage.
3. People don't believe digital assets have any value in vr. But I disagree. Once a platform matures to a point where users and companies can create a universe that people want to be part of, purchasable assets will be valuable. Kind of similar to in-app purchases on our phones or games.
4. productivity of vr/ar can be a driving force for adaption. Imagine having remote meetings like you are there. or have 4 monitors of any size in a virtual work environment. Still not there yet.
5. VR/AR is like ps1. we are like 5 generations out from a usable product, maybe more.
Watch as Mark proves this guy wrong. He is so bold to say the entire idea is stupid😂
He knows nothing
Thank you for facilitating this discussion, let’s build a better world for human happiness, not for a particular product
“Stop trying to make Metaverse happen”
Every decade people are moving towards more and more isolated space. Thanks to covid the workspace and relationships have accelerated it's transition to virtual space.
Think of it this way, instead of twitch you watch favourite video game streamer on live from a stadium with a crowd , or having a whole office system setup with max config just by wearing a glass.
VR is not to replace the reality, VR Is to upgrade our current virtual setup.
Exactly, so bleep "make belief" when the biggest complaint with humanity these days is not being realistic.
I understand the hate that people have for the Metaverse, but some of the arguments that Phil made were downright dumb, embarrassing really. Like his counter to a virtual game experice: "if you want to experience a game, go to the physical game". Wow, thanks Phil, hadn't thought of that at all
Yeah his point on that fact that you can experience it was weak. I mean some people cannot experience it for instance they want to experience a concert from one of they favorite artist but well can't (flight price ticket/lodging/administrative paperwork etc...) in this example the VR experience has its sense. But as of now we are not there yet as some technological aspect needs to be worked on imo.
@@wzt9376 we are actually very close. There are already some amazing virtual concert and shows even stands up in VR which you can participate with others (of course the number of audience will be much smaller than the stadiums)
This video should’ve been longer. Great discussion.
I don't know if this comment is going to get to the poster of this video, but the talk about visiting a united match really showed how much the metaverse hater is so blunt and just a hater with no real reason, because I've been a united fan my whole life and I've never been to a united game, I don't have the money, nor the time or energy to go to old Trafford to see a united game in person, and tbh I'm not sure I want to anymore considering what happened in Indonesia where the losing opposition fans broke out a fight and killed hundreds of people. So yeah the metaverse is important regardless of how many hatera are out there and it's inevitable, they said when you're succeeding you'll have so many haters who'll look for your flaws to point out to people instead of your progress
while i will grant phil libin that immersion isn't something i always seek gaming in vr is freaking spectacular and it's allure shouldn't be dismissed.
I think this metaverse idea is brilliant,but they should focus on what it can do and what it's capable of doing..if I owned metaverse,i would make it a perfect world for the handicapable people who want to be able to walk,a place where they can walk through parks or climb mountains or walk around New York or London..or that person who can't use their limbs,to be able to pick up a child,or a kitten and a puppy,or go bowling..what about vets with ptsd..put them in a calmer place,mentally ill patients,autistic,or older people who want to go back in time,the 40's and 50's...metaverse can do this and get medical contracts,but they have the wrong staff running it all..they cater to no one in particular and it's not working..focus on where it would work best.. just a thought..
A better question is: does anyone want it to?
Metaverse is hot garbage, but he underestimates the amount of people who won’t go out and just prefer communicating in an ugly virtual world.
Haha I love this comment cuz it's so true, the amount of stupid things we do today are more repeated than the actual useful ones, the metaverse sounds stupid but just one good metaverse with easy access and features will make everyone go buy a VR headset
Why not interview some actual users and would-be users of "metaverse" technology instead of authors or founders who have an obvious conflict of interest?
This is a great talk. Love how two people with opposing views share their own thoughts, it is very fun and interesting!
Great interview, insightful questions. Zoe’s shoes are awesome!
metaverse is tesla in 5yrs ago and renewables are tesla in 7-10 yrs ago
Fantastic Panel
Does the presenter look like someone I used to know in somewhere video???
Who cares about "make belief" when the biggest complaint with humanity these days is not being realistic.
Hype? That Metaverse that got a mere 200k Users a Month, whilst Second Life makes 200k users a Day? uhm...
inflation won't let you buy all this but wsj will get money for advertising
imagine if all the energy and resources spent on crypto and metaverse was spent on curing cancer or clean energy
What are you talking about? There's tens of thousands of people and billions of dollars being poured into both of those things...
People meeting virtually saves gas and easier cooperation and doing research in a virtual environment might just cure cancer ( there is more money in treating cancer)
I would love to have access to a metaverse that will give me access to the things that I dont have access to.
For example: an operating room allowing to enter into a surgical intervention. I want to become a virtual surgeon cause I cannot a real one. I would also love to become a fetus inside of a womb for 9 months. I would also love to be a parasite or a bacteria or cancergenic cell inside someone for a period of time. Living in the stomach of somebody else. Or a piece of flesh tissue of the heart of somebody. These are things I cannot experience in my own that I would love to experience.
To think that I want to become a virtual disneyland visitor through a metaverse and avoiding going physically to Florida is delusional. I want to go to Florida in person.
What is so stupid about meta vision for VR is the 3d avatars, mimicking humans in real time 3d is a too hard problem to chew, we are decades away from jumping over the "uncanny valley",they are not stupid they know that but they thought they were forced to do in order to leverage their past success as a social platform, they must pivot out if this idea of social interactions via 3d avatar FAST, limit social interaction too easier things such as audio or chat and invest their r&d effort in inventing the successor of the mouse to interact in this virtual world in an efficient way ( virtual hands is very intuitive but not efficient at all, raising your arms up in the air is only physically suntainable for 5-10 minutes )
Uncanny Valley has been crossed. Look up Codec Avatar 2.0 by Meta watch?v=w52CziLgnAc
Buy "star citizen " and start renting space - they already have city's. ( simplified)
I believe in meta they just have the camera become our eyes not the machine become our brain
My biggest concern are the glasses. I fly since a few weeks with a FPV drone which uses glasses and this is great for 10 minutes. I think I will be able to push it to be comfortable for 30 minutes efentually. But watching an entire football game or attend a full hour meeting in those glasses, I could not imagine doing that. Well, eventually one will be able to feed the information directly into the brain, then it might become doable. For now, it seems just not to be the right time yet.
Metaverse sucks. If I want VR, I want to do crazy stuff like Grand Theft Auto!! No one wants to do boring stuff on metaverse.
Look up "Bonelab"
Everyday we greatly underestimate human ingenuity.
VR & AR is the future. The only thing we don't know is how quickly we get there.
The only bottle neck today is the hardware & content. What happens when apple rolls out their headsets?
I think Metaverse is similar to Simcity. They are probably selling virtual properties. They must be thinking people will be interested in virtual Capitalism, with some links to speculation in virtual money. and all these will belong to Meta.
Agree, the strongest component is virtual goods economy, it is not specific to VR (ebooks or music were here long ago) but VR is a great marketplace to buy, sell and experience these mass consumption goods of the 21st century
#VeVeVerse ⭕️🚀🚀🚀
The metaverse is next level technology and the future. Unfortunately, this idea was not the making of Mark Zuckerberg. Just as he took Facebook from the original people who conceptualuzed it he took the idea of the metaverse from someone else. The difference is that they were smart enough not to give Mark the whole idea. Its like he gave them the whole voncept of a ferrari but not the engine and how it us built. This is why the metaverse has stuttered. I know the developer personally, and if anyone on this thread is interested in this or wants to get the real metaverse launched, then contact me..
The rest of the world cannot afford to be a Metaverse user. Period.
🙂👽🔋🏧🔋👽
If I was going use something like the Metaverse it wouldn't be one run by Mark Zuckerberg
Right now, at the same time as the match between Iran and Wales, people are protesting in Baluchistan, #Zahedan, and the repression force of the Islamic Republic is killing people with direct fire. #WALIRN #Qatar2022
Work? Please. As usual, sex will be a great place to start: augmented reality and with the right gear, the metaverse will be a safe space for that.
Nike investing in the Metaverse is "really really brave" 🤣
That guy doesn't realize that people who are true sneaker collectors, don't collect sneakers to wear them! 😂They collect them just to have them! The fact that the avatars don't have feet is irrelevant in that regard!
God bless you for this comment, they think people play Fortnite cuz of the graphics, they don't know it's cuz of the character their skins portray
nice podcast
Well, I won't use it... but then again, I'm not on Fakebook either...
It will be remembered as a flop
Metaverse is dying a slow death and crypto is imploding on itself.
Metaverse has created the social distance and frustration.
Hi Zoe, nice to see you. Regarding metaverse, the tech leaders still debate it cause there are advantages and automatically disadvantages. Some of advantages had shared by one of your host but the advantages shared by one of your host too. It consequence of tech, tech created by human and humans aren't ever perfect🙏
Phil is wrong and lacks imagination.
Why do you keep showing epic games lol
This discussion isn’t going to age well
real people that pay real money do not live in an unreal metaverse. get real.
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Anything to with a fungus like Zuckerberg is, indeed, nothing but hype.
Investing in crypto now should be in every wise individuals list, in some months time you'll be ecstatic with the decision you made today
what hype?
Metaverse is already dead.
Meta = bollox.
Need to make lot to investment to buy all the equipment and then investing so much time in vr is waste
WHAT HYPE???
...the metaverse is the Matrix... you first need to create the pill
Like it or not, metaverse is the future. So many of the work and other things we do are done in the virtual environment. VR will help augment and enrich these experiences, open this opportunities to others and expand the scope of what can be done
Herman was interesting to listen to and had some insightful takes and critiques. Phil was honestly a rambling waste of time
Crazy to see phil libin up there… i worked with him years ago on Evernote. Still have old pictures with him in the bay area 😅
These supposed experts assume everyone thinks like them. I enjoy VR games and spend a few hours every week with diffrent games. I don't care so much about the Metaverse yet but I might someday if it ever works well.
Herman in lalaland
He should of made our facebook pages VR.
Betting against an entire technology is never smart. The fact that Phil's counter argument is "just go to a soccer game in real life" and "improve the physical world" makes me even more bullish that the AR/VR and consumer blockchain is inevitable.
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The metaverse looks like garbage. I would spend time in it if it actually looked good, like the BRINK VR app.
it's an epic fail people barely use 3-D glasses to watch 3-D movies. And yes of course all these people are big believers in it cause they all go make money and profit all of it ironically vertronically the air trono make radio player 1 a reality🤣🤣🤣
I remember back when VRML was going to be the next big thing.
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Metarvers = Day dreaming
I'm not a fan of the metaverse. But I'm not so arrogant and privileged as to believe that others won't find in the metaverse what they are missing, simply because I myself can do the things I want to in the real one. Good things and bad things are going to come out of the metaverse; but what is important is that it'll be DIFFERENT and that is worth your attention more than your judgement.
No.
“No” roll credits
No to Beta-verse