There are Native Americans with HEBREW and other Middle-Eastern languages and customs PRESERVED in their tribes even to this day. It's an undeniable fact. Enjoy! ua-cam.com/video/1vcem3miWvY/v-deo.html
Interesting video. Thank you. Are you familiar with the idea of the Phoenicians discovering America around 600bc and probably much earlier? Including a copper trade... among everything else we could imagine Im sure. ua-cam.com/video/NmQMnm_CcCs/v-deo.html Also, this: gnosticwarrior.com/jews.html Obviously.. another strange synchronicity that we have the same name and last name initial. :P Also, my highly intuitive friend suddenly met a guy in the states who asked for the help of her gifts to explore bones in mounds just yesterday.. The idea of Mounds and bones has never entered into my awareness, until yesterday, and your video... Down the rabbit hole we continue.. Blessings.
Regretfully, Michael, there is no indication that any of the many and varied languages of the original inhabitants of the western hemisphere are related to the Semitic languages or even to the other Afro-asiatic languages of which the Semitic langauge family is a member. Indeed there are several diverse language families in North and South America, which are not related to one another or, at best, could possibly be remotely related to one another. The Mayan languages, for example, are typologically ergsative-absolutive languages, while the semitic languages are nominative-accusative languages. One can always find a few random correspondences of vocabulary or morphology, but to really show a liguistic relationship, there would have to thousands of correspondences and systematic relationship between the correspondences. For example, we find a very close relationship among Latin, Ancient Greek and Sanscrit, based upon thousands of correspondences, as well as systematic, explainable differences amonfg the three languages.
Cool. Now all you need to confirm those areas as "Book of Mormon lands" is evidence of ancient horse culture, wheeled vehicles, metal tools and weaponry, evidence of Judeo-Christian worship, Hebrew or Egyptian language, etc.
I really appreciate the people who post audio versions of the scriptures on UA-cam. When I have an upsetting event, all I have to do is listen to the scriptures and I get back in check. If persons can read (even Braille) or hear, no reason not to do the scriptures daily. Thank you from the desert country.
Edward Christopher everyone has different experiences, just because you think that, doesn’t mean it’s true. You can think it but I know for a fact that this Church is true for myself
Amen to all this. The Book of Mormon has come alive for me unlike it has before and made much more sense back when I first discovered the research of the FIRM Foundation
I really appreciate your efforts & courage in making this series, I served in the heart land of America & was in places where it felt to me that the Book of Mormon came to life in some truly beautiful and amazing places. As I spoke with and researched prayerfully into the native peoples of America this became more & more clear. Now with every passing year the power of this amazing book translated by a Prophet of God is truly astonishing and brings peace to my life I thought I would never find.
Been looking into Mormonism quite a bit mainly as a cool piece of uniquely American culture and I found that it made a lot of sense to me. Thanks for your video
Some of the most amazing Mormons (the church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints) I have ever met were Native American these are people with a love of God & all his creation that will change the ways to look at life. Read the book of Mormon and honestly ask God about what is in it, it is astounding what it does to make any life closer to the God that gave all of us life.
Cahokia Mounds another amazing site across from St. Louis in Illinois. Museum there, also. I’ve been there in 2017. Worth the trip. Huge mound has the feel of a sophisticated civilization there, no denying that. Amazing to me that the Hopewells and their numerous artifacts are not given the same press as Aztecs and Mayans, whose more glamorous structures still stand. The Book of Mormon is indeed the truth. These people who were wiped out by the millions, lived and worshipped Jesus Christ.
The fact that there are opposing groups of believers in the Book of Mormon who theorize locales for its events which are thousands of miles apart from each other tells us that there isn't enough evidence in either location to even begin to determine where they occurred, or if they occurred at all. The population figures and culture and technology described in the BOM dictates that unambiguous physical evidence to confirm their existence should have been found decades ago. That evidence should be as abundant as the artifacts from the Mayan empire. "Nephite" cities with their original names should be scattered all over the Americas, just as there are Mayan and Aztec cities with their original names. But none have been found. Obvious conclusion: They never existed.
Well done Michael! A well thought through and organized presentation with literal references to read. Lots to think about a research myself now, but it makes much more sense than Mesoamerica setting. Thanks!
Took place in a satanist warped mind, made up nonsense used to dupe moronic halfwits that fall for this Boloni hahaha 🤡🤡🤡🤡 Boloni buried nothing 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
I always thought that Central America was the landing spot the Lehi and family and spread throughout America. It makes more sense the later part in the Book of Mormon to be in Missouri. I like your work you've done with the old texts of old books from the Prophets. No matter where the actual sites are it matters not, The Book of Mormon is true and I love it!!!!
I have not been to any of these mounds. I live in Asia. I've never seen Joseph Smith. Nor any of the LDS prophets nor any of it's general officers. But I've read the Book of Mormon. I know it's true. It is scripture, much as the Bible is scripture. The test is very simple. Read it with the a sincere heart and real intent, and pray about it with same sincerity and real intent. It's plain and simple. If you read it to find faults on it, that won't work. You have to read it with real desire to know the truth, with faith in Christ that He will let you know if it's true or not. This test has never failed a sincere person who really wants to know the truth. IT HAS NOT FAILED ME. NOR THE THOUSANDS, MILLIONS WHO DID IT. "3 Behold, I would exhort you that when ye shall read these things, if it be wisdom in God that ye should read them, that ye would remember how merciful the Lord hath been unto the children of men, from the creation of Adam even down until the time that ye shall receive these things, and ponder it in your hearts. 4 And when ye shall receive these things, I would exhort you that ye would ask God, the Eternal Father, in the name of Christ, if these things are not true; and if ye shall ask with a sincere heart, with real intent, having faith in Christ, he will manifest the truth of it unto you, by the power of the Holy Ghost." Moroni 10:3-4
Kris Sue Moroni, the capital of Cumoruh? 34 wives? Pedophilia? Treason? Arson? Murder? These are facts regarding Joseph Smith, you don’t have to pray about those “feelings” because they are verifiable with court records and personal accounts. Do some research.
"But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned." 1 Corinthians 2:14 If you are spiritual, my suggestion of "praying to God" would not be met by disdain and unbelief. I won't really waste my time explaining something important to you if you've already closed your mind. Only someone with an open mind would listen. So yeah. bye bro. Peace.
@@Lion_Hamza The reason he (Michael P.) Holds only to all this scritpure evidence is because he's an LDS talking to other LDS. He's helping those of us all ready converted, not trying to convert new memebers. That's like trying to teach children addition with algebra. You simply don't start in the middle.
If there were a ancient civilization where are all the ruins there as to be ruins. You can't have all these cities and towns and wars etc without having ancient ruins.
I went on my mission to Ohio and saw many mounds. We had a zone conference at one mound and they had a museum there with armor and helmets. I was unaware until then that those kind of artifacts were found there. I went on splits in Circleville, and there is a sign outside the city stating "this city is built within a prehistoric circular earthworks" or some wording close to that. Great video - thanks!
Christopher Westra Which mission? I was in Cincinnati from '01 - '03, and I had no idea about the mound-builder culture back then! It's probably for the best, or I might have spent too much time on the mission wanting to learn about them back then :) But I am going back to visit a lot of the ancient forts and cities soon. 2 of them were right near my first area in Hamilton! Yet I had no idea they were even there :)
+Christopher Westra Where was the museum you went to? Last summer I went to one at Fort Ancient and right in Columbus, but I'd love to go to as many as I can to see more artifacts :)
+Christopher Westra "I was unaware until then that those kind of artifacts were found there." That's because they were not found there. No evidence of metal has ever been found anywhere in North America that existed prior to European contact in the the 16th century. These helmets and armors that you describe have never been found in Woodland or Mississippian mound builder cultures. Radio carbon dating is an empirical scientific method. Somebody is fibbing to you.
alma 31: 3 says “Now the Zoramites had gathered themselves together in a land which they called Antionum, which was east of the land of Zarahemla, which lay nearly bordering upon the seashore, which was south of the land of Jershon, which also bordered upon the wilderness south, which wilderness was full of the Lamanites.” I guess this rules out Zarahemla’s location but your video is really interesting and I took a lot from it. Keep up the good work. It amazes me how many derogatory comments there are on here as well. Do people not have better things to do with their time than watch and comment on videos that they supposedly take nothing to do with?
I very much enjoy this type of enlightening information, I'm grateful that the Lord has blessed us with people like you that is able to research and study and peace all of these things together it is absolutely inspiring. Thanks very much for taking the time to do all of this research and study and to put this video together and your subsequent videos so that we are all able to understand and be more informed of where the truth lies.
did you know there is a park in Anderson, Indiana called "Mounds State Park" where there are Indian burial grounds, mounds of earth where heaps of bodies were buried?
@Ralph Wiggam That is the dumbest attempt at an insult. First of all, many many hard metal swords have been dug up all across the midwest area. In addition, why would the dead be buried with their weapons, especially in light of the fact that weaponry would have been difficult to make? Don't be dumb.
Ralph Wiggam en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metallurgy_in_pre-Columbian_America read the north america portion. pre colombian hard metal use in north america, precisely where the video is talking about the book of mormon taking place
Ralph Wiggam there is also evidence of iron working in north america (see the same article) and just because there’s hasn’t necessarily been a steel sword found, keep in mind that they are notoriously difficult to find anywhere in the world, even from biblical lands. the majority of the BOM people’s would have used copper tools
@Ralph Wiggam you failed to see that i said "steel" swords. and yes, the earliest found STEEL sword from biblical times is 600BC, despite mentions of them earlier. no dip they have found tons of swords, but steel swords are a different matter. the people who owned them were wealthy, and there were very few of them, making them difficult to find. by all means, continue trying to "fix the world" by wielding your sword of hatred, pun intended. i'm not "lyin for jesus", you're deliberately ignoring part of what I said. also on your bit of "there are literally thousands of artifacts of native americans using spears", yeah they definitely used spears. if you read the book of mormon, it speaks of the lamanites and the nephites using spears, clubs, and other types of native american weaponry. the swords were , in the example of the sword of laban, rare and used by those with status, AS WE HAVE SEEN ALL AROUND THE WORLD this is how swords were distributed. accusing me of lying does nothing to hide your faulty logic, as well as the fact that you would grasp any straw to prove this book untrue. i'm very sorry if you have had bad experiences with mormons, but grow up and don't let it ruin your life. there are bad people everywhere, and if you make it your mission to destroy whole groups just because of bad experiences with a few, you'll be miserable. good luck.
Ralph Wiggam let’s also conveniently ignore the dna similarities between jews and the hopewell indians, the advanced armor systems found in the mounds, the fortified cities that match the descriptions in the BOM precisely, the finding of middle eastern artifacts, the geographical evidence (where things are located, seas rivers and wilderness,), the concrete work found, BARLEY being in north america, and the strange amount of intelligence it would have taken for Joseph Smith, a man with a first graders education (who didn’t even know jerusalem had walls) to come up with such an intricate story that has no plot holes, the writing styles of each prophet is different, and miraculously has countless evidences of it being real, that i’ve just listed above, and there are even more then i’ve said. you’re picking apart my words to try to counter me with minute, stupid logic, that doesn’t even follow what i said in the first place, and you’ll likely do it again. “show me evidence of middle eastern artifacts” grow up. move on, and don’t pick fights where you know you’ll lose. my previous statement also still stands, i hole you find peace after this with God and your fellow man.
where is part 2? thank you for your information :) I know all these things. I am happy you are opening minds about the truth. I'm going to use this as a tool to help spread the truth.
+Nanaminera A I'm glad you enjoyed the video. I got started on researching The Book of Mormon in North America about 3 years ago when I first watched the research of Wayne May and Rod Meldrum. I love making videos about what I learn, but I've learned far far more than I have time to make videos about it. Good old life's priorities get in the way :) Right now I'm working on shorter 5-10 minute videos, but hopefully sometime this year I'll get Part 2 of this video done as well. In the meantime, here are 3 shorter videos I've made over the last few months. ua-cam.com/video/Oef_MBInu2E/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/bcscJXWJoeI/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/H2bk-UtYGbc/v-deo.html
+Michael P where could I find some earth mounds ,hills here in Utah? you had mentioned there are some here too?. I had seen all of Wayne Mays talks and Rod Meldrum's videos a couple years ago. brother Meldrum was in my ward, is a real humble man and extremely smart,and very nice. but both of their videos are very long ,I don't care about watching them and very few people will actually watch it. so thank you for making these videos ,you show the important proof they had (Wayne and Rod) and made it into a shorter video I can share with others. I love to share new information specially if it has to do with the Lord. My father back in the late 80 s early 90 s just by reading the book of Mormon was able to show the same thing Wayne says ,same neck of land same continent. I know it's true because the Lord always gives more than one witness. And there are many others who have figured it out too. Joseph Smith never said it was in south or central America he has always said it was here in the u.s.
What's been presented here is definitely interesting. There are a lot statements that have been made that provide clues to the Book of Mormon geography. I think it helps, to interpret these statements more broadly rather than narrowly, however. I believe that the majority of evidence points to the Book of Mormon events primarily taking place in Central America, mostly because of travel distances of armies during wartime. These descriptions would suggest that the geography was relatively small. It would take a certain amount of days to march from one city to another, etc. Most church leaders and scholars hold this opinion as well. The majority of official church visuals, movies, videos, and art show a tropical, Mesoamerican setting. Just to quickly address some of the points made in the video: 1. I also believe that Joseph Smith's Zelph prophecy is true. We know that the Nephites migrated northward many times in ships and on land. The Book of Mormon specifically mentions the People of Ammon (who were Lamanites) moving into northern lands. There's no limit to how far northward these people could have traveled and they could have had prophets raised up among them. 2. Statements by Brigham Young about the Gadianton Robbers inhabiting the mountains around St. George could be a literal statement, but more likely, figurative. If there were wicked men who had lived in the area anciently, and their spirits resided in the mountains, then his statement could still be true. 3. The assumption that the city Manti was in Missouri is a big one. According to the video, the assumption is being made because of two journal entries from members of the church who were under that impression. These could have been rumors. I don't think there was an official statement made by Joseph Smith on the issue. 4. Also, when Book of Mormon prophets speak of future events happening in "this land", "this land" could easily be referring to North America. It could even be both North and South America. 5. Also, with all the parallels between Hopewell and Israelite cultures, there's no reason why other groups couldn't have been lead out of Jerusalem to the Americas. In fact, we know that "God has lead away from time to time from the house of Israel" (2 Nephi 10:22). There's nothing in scripture that says that the Jaredites, Lehites, and Mulekites were the only people lead to this land. We know that the America's were full of different cultures and peoples that had nothing to do with the Book of Mormon. In the Book of Mormon we're told that the writings only contain a small fraction of what was going on with so many people. 6. I think that Moroni, could have wandered for many years with the plates before getting to what is now New York state. During which time, I believe he dedicated the hill on which the Manti temple was built. Anyway, just my two cents.
I love your point of view! I'm always open to finding new evidences of the book of Mormon, thank you for this new info. If you're open to it, here's some of the evidence that currently has me guessing these events took place in North America: The Smoking Gun of Book of Mormon Geography by Jonathan Neville: bookofmormonevidence.org/the-smoking-gun-of-book-of-mormon-geography-2/ Undeniable Archaeological Evidence of The Book of Mormon in North America by Rod Meldrum: ua-cam.com/video/TDdnWtVWre8/v-deo.html Moroni's America by Jonathan Neville: www.moronisamerica.com/
Ether 13:3 Referring to the land where the Lord brought the Jaredites and the Nephites, Moroni states this land "[will be] the place of the New Jerusalem which should come down out of heaven, and the holy sanctuary of the Lord." Modern revelation tells us this location will be in Missouri, which is the gathering place for this remnant of the House of Israel. Why would the place of gathering be in Missouri if the people are from Central or South America?
I Believe there is a time and place for everything. I have seen going from Arizona to St. George on the 15, rows of Nephite soldiers waiting to go to battle with the angels standing over them to protect them. I always wondered what I was seeing in this other dimension, my children were able to see this also as we were driving to Logan one night. And now I understand that it was the Nephites going to battle the Gadianton robbers. This rings so true to me now that I understand the locations. Thank you❤️
Sassy Momma66, thank you for sharing about seeing nephite soldiers prepping for battle with the gaddiantons. Like them we are also encompassed about by the gaddianton robbers today. Good luck and see you on the other side
The more of such Insanity that I read the more hopeless I realize that it is for Mormons. They are the most deluded people on the face of the Earth far surpassing the Catholics!
Storms and whirlwinds are mentioned more than once and a closer look at the reports of the New Madrid earthquakes during the 1800's tells me the Heartland area is the correct place and there is "Only one Cumorah"!
I find it interesting that people who believe in God yet refuse to believe He dealt with people all over the earth not merely in the middle east. Then they refuse to read the record which proves the validity of the Bible and testifies to the divinity of Jesus Christ. The history of people God guided from the old world over to the America's is quite fascinating whether you choose to believe or not. I find this to be a great asset helping the understanding of how God deals with His people and why we are here upon the earth. I also love the revelations from Christ found in the Doctrine and Covenants of the restoration of the gospel which tells the story how this record was found.
I been really interested to learn more about the Hopewell Indians for a long time. The book of Mormon is Real, I been studying off an on about the ancient america really interesting things. Thanks for sharing this
Jared House So here we have another place on the internet where Mormons come to comment and agree that 1+1=6...,staggering the indoctrination...just staggering!
The biggest problem I see with this model is Alma 22:32. Where is the small neck of land between the land northward and southward? It took 1-1/2 days for a Nephite to cross this neck. Why is not the entire land not "nearly surrounded by water"? I'm not being dismissive or critical. I'm only trying to understand your point of view on these questions.
The great lakes used to be larger and "Michigan" looked more like a head with a funny nose and not a mitten. Narrow pass may not be the same place as narrow neck.
@@李傑西-n1j Very possibly. I believe that's the Phyllis Olive model and one I think is POSSIBLE - yet there are still issues I have with it. I just don't think we have all of the answers yet and won't until the Lord is ready to reveal it.
There is some very fine research and information presented here, which is greatly appreciated. But because we have conclusive evidence that Moroni's Cumorah was in New York, that does not prove that the narrow neck of land and Zarahemla was north of Adam-ondi-Ahman, or any where that near Cumorah. You can study my manuscript on file at the BYU Maxwell Institute entitled, “Where Does the Two Cumorah Theory Stand?,” by L. La Mar Adams, which shows how the Prophet Joseph and Book of Mormon passages puts the narrow neck of land and Zarahemla far south of Missouri. To say that the Nephits did not exist at least as far south as Central America, in addition to their later living in the US area, is not only contradicting the Prophet Joseph, and most other prophets who have written on the subject, but a number of Book of Mormon passages.
Are you familiar with the Texas Sharp-shooter fallacy? Mound builders are thought to have been in the area since roughly 3500 BCE to 16th century CE. So already those dates do not comport with the book of Mormon timeline of them coming to the area after Lehi left his home in 600 BC. Also.. I highly doubt the bones would be just laying where they can pick them up... Considering the amount of that passed they would have to dig for them...
Hi A.J., that is correct over-all, but there are 3 mound-builder cultures: 1) The Late Archaic/Adena (approx. 3500 - 300 BCE); then 2) The Hopewell (approx. 500 BCE - 400 CE); and finally 3) The Mississippian (approx. 900 - 1600 CE). The Adena match the Jaredites. The Hopewell match the Nephites/Lamanites. And this is not in timelines alone, but in cultures, artifacts, linguistics, and Native American histories. Then there's a 500-yr gap in mound-building cultures. The Mississippian culture are post-Book-of-Mormon people. According to some Native American tribes, the Snake People (the Mayans) came up from the south, enslaved the smaller tribes for several hundred years, and forced them to build the pyramid-style mounds you see at Cahokia and other places in the southern U.S. (similar to the stone Mayan pyramids, which are exactly the same as the stone pyramids in southeast Asian cultures - Maya and Guatemala are Hindu and Buddhist words as well). But anyway, the 3 different mound-builder cultures are very distinct from each other.
@@MichaelP_IsMe just because the timelines match doesn't mean they are one in the same. That again would be a logical fallacy.. Apophenia if I'm not mistaken. Apophenia by the way is an umbrella term that includes other fallacies such as Texas sharpshooter and paeridolia.
@@blatnick81 like I said above, timelines are not the only thing I'm basing my opinion on. In fact, it's only a very small part of it. I'm also talking about cultures, artifacts, linguistics, and Native American histories that line the Adena and Hopewell up with the Jaredites and Nephites/Lamanites.
@@MichaelP_IsMe similar linguistics is not proof either... Hebrew is rooted from the proto-semitic languages.. Along with most Asian and African languages.. All will have similar linguistics.. That does not mean anything other than the area used the same linguistics in their communication. Same thing goes with cultures and customs... And you just have to look at holiday traditions to see how customs carry over into other cultures
What I want to speak directly about is the fact that Adam-ohdiahman was already established to be the land where Adam and Eve were kicked out of the Garden of Eden known as Davies County in Missouri. So the land north and east of there was where the Nephites and jaredites dwelt over the years to establish themselves close to Adam-ohdioman. I want you guys to realize when I visit these areas in Northern Missouri I feel things inside my body as a connection to the land and what was there throughout the years. This is a holy land because I do not feel these kinds of things anywhere else but these lands that are asociated with the church. These things are not a connection to just our church they are a connection directly to our Heavenly Father when I feel them because the land is blessed spiritually and cannot be passed off as a specific thing that they are attached to. Most Mormons only know soo much about their bodies being a direct connection to their Heavenly Father and the connection to these lands because they've hardly ever felt these things before or know that there is a direction connection between them.
It took place where Joseph Smith, Brigham Young and JFSmith said. The Yucatan and South America is not mentioned. That does not mean that scattered remnants after 421 AD could have migrated there. But they would not of been of Lehi's blood line I believe but grafted into the bloodline of indigenous peoples.
Looking at official Church History documents, the area across from Nauvoo was named Zarahemla out of tribute to the Book of Mormon city of Zarahemla. The same is the case with the area farther south being named Manti. When the Saints relocated to Utah, they continued this practice in naming the cities of Bountiful, Lehi, Nephi, Manti and I'm sure a few others. You should read "The Book of Clues for Book of Mormon Geographers" available on Kindle. It proves from the pages of the Book of Mormon itself that the river Sidon actually ran from south to north. The Mississippi flows from north to south, and always has.
I have been watching your videos looking for commentary on the narrow neck of land dividing the north from the south. Where can I find something on that subject?
Nell, the harbinger of splendid things So here we have another place on the internet where Mormons come to comment and agree that 1+1=6...,staggering the indoctrination...just staggering!
im not gonna knock nothing butt to say god curse im black i cant do that read due 28 it tells what happen to isreal and judah and tell you who they are if they did not keep the oath this happen to so call africans 100% the curse part and not about skin peace
Think about that, after around 180 years the Mormon church still doesn't know where the Book of Mormon lands are. This problem could be rectified once and for all by a church sponsored comprehensive archeological search on and around the 'hill Cumorah', ( an area that the LDS church actually owns). Joseph Smith's Book of Mormon describes an truly enormous battle at this sight with tens of thousands of armed warriors dying in a desperate struggle. Many thousands, perhaps millions of artifacts,( steel armour, weapons etc, and of course human remains) must be waiting to be discovered. This in itself would prove beyond reasonable doubt that North America was the location of the book of Mormon, and that the Nephites and Lamanites really existed, and there really was a great battle at Cumorah. Also the book of Mormon would be shown to be historically accurate and credible, and Joseph Smith's claim to be a prophet of God and translater of golden plates would be proven true, beyond reasonable doubt. However, the LDS church has never looked for this evidence 'waiting to be found', and never will. They know that nothing would be found. Yet they spend millions of dollars annually doggedly promoting the book of Mormon as truth. As a claimed accurate historical account, the book of Mormon is ranks as probably the most incorrect book on earth, yet it remains to this day the 'keystone' of that faith, the authority and credibility of both Joseph Smith and the LDS church hang on that keystone. Read the Holy Bible and trust it completely as God's complete and finished revelation to all mankind through all the ages. Kind regards to all, especially dear Mormon folk.
Hahaha even if they dug up half the state of New York and found millions of artifacts critics like you would dismiss them as ordinary old Indian relics, not anything specific to the Book of Mormon.
The heartland model follows the rule of thumb when speaking of goin up or down from one place or another is a difference of elevation. When leaving Jerusalem going anywhere else such as Nazareth you go down into that land since Jerusalem is highest in elevation.
@@accreditedbythenicemaninth6495 heartland doesn’t follow this rule of elevation. Jonathan Neville for example uses up and down to be up a river and down a river?
Why is there no talk or cold, ice or snow in the Book of Mormon... no mention of cold winters and what about those going to war wearing only a loin cloth ?
That's why serious scholars at BYU usually figure the Book of Mormon to have taken place somewhere in Central America. If you're really interested there is a book called "Mormon's Codex". Its about 800 pages but really interesting if you really are into Archaeology. bmaf.org/articles/bunch_reasons_not_include_north_america__sorensen
1 ne 11:8 Mentions snow. Lehi wrote the scriptures for his children and posterity. If they had no snow they wouldn’t have known or understood what he was talking about.
Carrie Lynn Skylaglow / 2600 YEARS TO COVER & THERE HAVE BEEN MANY CHANGES IN CLIMATE DURING THAT TIME. THERE WAS A COMPLETE CHANGE PLANET WIDE WHICH HAS BEEN DOCUMANTED by CLIMATOLOGISTS IN MODERN TIMES/ PARROTS (sculptures by us (LAMONITES OR NEPHITES) & they died out & moved south as the climate changed. The sculptures have been found! Check out Wayne May & Rod Meldrum, they can show & confirm t his info for you! God Bless! We are all children of the GREAT FATHER IN HEAVEN! Many are blessed with the ancient descent from Israel & haven’t a clue!
Jerusalem wasn't always a desert. It was once had a beautiful climate. Why do you think it was so sought after for two long. Climate changes, we see it now.
What most have overlooked and which Joseph Smith only slightly touched upon (D&C 85) is the fact that not only did Lehi sail to America in 600bc but so did Jeremiah the Prophet. Lehi had the Records, Sword of Laban and the Liahona, but Jeremiah brought the Ark of the Covenant, Altar of Incense and the Tent of meeting which will be revealed and will usher in the building of the Temple in Missouri. The Ark is in America...a whirlwind of the Lord has gone forth in fury! Jeremiah 30:23-24.
If you dont think the Ark is in America, then you have not understood the scriptures...the Ark was taken by Jeremiah in around 600bc taken to Egypt, then to Ireland, then to America...see 2 Maccabees 2...Jeremiah came with the Phoenicians who had been sailing to America for at least 1500 years bc
Here is SOLID undeniable evidence that Hebrews were in ancient North America... you can see it right on Google Earth. ua-cam.com/video/XIR0SFgxS7g/v-deo.html
Michael P RIGHT! There are AT LEAST 110 tribes in N America (Canada as well) I am blessed to belong to 2, OJIBWA/MOHAWK. BOTH have ABCDX2 DNA - Israel DNA. What a BLESSING! They can’t deport us to Israel at this LATE DATE!
I've seen that and it looks exactly like the Nile Delta. Anyone, wno has studied fractals rrealizes that fractal geometry is found duplicated in plant life and in sediment, all over the world. The Hebrew Letter Shin or SIN (pronounced like "seen," can be seen in many of the parts of the world, but it is a geological phenomena, not a purposely built one! When they find actual Hebrew manuscripts in the Americas dated to 500-600 BC, then get back to me.
jon, writing "science" and "debunked" means nothing. This, a common tactic usually used by Atheists, means nothing unless you provide evidence, references, etc. Substance is needed when making such an accusation. Your comment was lazy.
Excellent video, Michael. You may have seen my book on Amazon, Finding the Lands of the Book of Mormon and also Finding Zarahemla. Like you, I didn't follow any archaeological data for my books, I rely solely on Mormon's description of the land south and the narrow neck of land in Alma 22:32. I disagree with you that South America is the land southward. That title of South America was not in use until the time of Joseph Smith. He made the comment that All of America is Zion. In his day this was Spanish America, later Mexico and Central America, British America, later Canada, and the U.S. It's popular to believe that Columbus discovered America but in his four voyages across the Atlantic he only went to the Caribbean Islands and never set foot on North America. The U.S. is the only country that believes it was Columbus while the rest of the English speaking world believes it was John Cabot. I believe it was John Cabot that was the "man among the Gentiles" that Nephi saw in vision.
I just want to point out that I accept the King James Version of the Bible as the absolute truth and inspired Word of God, and I understand the Mormon Church uses this version of the bible as well. The thing is though, while the bible was written before and shortly after the death of Christ, and again was accepted by the Church as the true and inspired Word of God, the subsequent book of Mormon wasn’t written until the 1800’s, after Joseph Smith allegedly received some golden tablets from an angel named Moroni. Here’s the question I have, however, that I haven’t seen brought up by others. If you can accept that God is perfect and all knowing and that the King James Version of the bible is the true inspired Word of God, then why would God need to send an angel, whose name is not mentioned in the bible by the way, in order to change His Word and start a whole new religion through having Joseph Smith proclaim himself as a modern day profit, followed by his writing of the Book of Mormon. The answer is that God wouldn’t do this, because He got it right the first time. What really stands out to me as well though is the fact that it is well documented Joseph Smith was a convicted felon of multiple offenses, including theft and attempted murder, who was practicing divination or the summoning of spirits using a spirit stone, when he received a visit from an "angel". And I would just note here too that such practices are condemned and forbidden by God in the bible. Furthermore, he was searching for gold when he was summoning a spirit, when he received his visitation and was given the "golden tablets". My point here is that Joseph Smith was not visited by an angel of God, but most likely by the very devil himself who gave Smith his "revelation", and that Smith is a false profit who started a false religion that is leading millions of people away from God and to eternal damnation in Hell, if they don't realize the truth and accept Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior.
But also, from other sources such as Jesus Truth’s channel, it’s reported that Mormons believe that God had a mother, that God has a wife on another planet who he has spirit babies with, that they (Mormons) themselves will become gods (small case g emphasized here, as there is only one God in Heaven) and be able to make spirit babies of their own for their own special planets if they live perfect lives, that Jesus and the devil were brothers, that special magical underwear is required to ward off evil doing, and that black people were originally white people who became cursed for siding with the devil and became black folks who were unworthy of temple worship or associating with. This of course is all blasphemous, heretical and absolutely unbiblical nonsense, none of which of course is volunteered by the Mormon missionaries when they're going around knocking on people's doors trying to gain new converts for the devil. All I can ultimately do however is lean on the true Word of God, and in the end if someone cannot except that as true then there’s nothing more I can do but to pray for them. I feel that it’s my responsibility as a Christian to do what I can to witness to others though, so at least they will have heard the truth whether they choose to accept it or not. But if you want to know that you’ll receive eternal salvation, just remember that 1 Corinthians 15 tells you that you will be saved if you believe that Jesus Christ died on the cross for all of our sins, was buried, and that He rose again on the third day and ascended into heaven where He sits on the right hand of God the Father Almighty. A sinner’s prayer would include a believer professing all of this, but also should include repentance and the asking of forgiveness for all of your sins (Mathew 4:17). Once you’ve done this, by professing your faith, believing in the gospel and repenting of your sins, then the bible says that you will be saved and that you WILL go to Heaven!!! Just remember though that Mary can’t save you, Allah can’t save you, Buddha can’t save you, and Joseph Smith can’t save you… Only Yeshua Hamashiach, Jesus Christ, our Lord and Savior can save you; as Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to mankind by which we must be saved. (Acts 4:12) peacewithgod.net/ Once you’ve done this, by professing your faith, believing in the gospel and repenting of your sins, then the bible says that you will be saved. Sadly though, for those who refuse to accept this free gift offered through accepting Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior, they face eternity in outer darkness, separated from the true Love of God forever. Hopefully, you will see the truth and accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior, and turn away from the false teachings of the Mormon Church which is doing nothing but leading its followers into eternal damnation. What Must I do to be Saved: ua-cam.com/video/9CppqsPjlRo/v-deo.html Billy Graham on Jesus Christ and Salvation: ua-cam.com/video/tgZEGkWGLPg/v-deo.html Salvation through Jesus Christ Alone, as there is No Other Name Under Heaven… ua-cam.com/video/TxW0Sgw-BtY/v-deo.html I'm also attaching a couple of really good videos below from pastor Jeff Durbin, wherein he explains the falsehoods of the Mormon beliefs better than I can here, and I really hope you will take the time to watch them. I hope you make the right choice and flee this false religion too, and I would recommend joining a good Church of God or Baptist church in your area too if you listened to what I've said here. Here's the links, and God bless! ua-cam.com/video/JY2QzkyFMoY/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/_IVIehtmxLI/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/O0Jel8zWnOI/v-deo.html As well as these: Mormonism Exposed: ua-cam.com/video/TIkkGsxAjMc/v-deo.html 13 Reasons Why Mormonism is a False Religion: ua-cam.com/video/moN61zjBHvE/v-deo.html 7 False Prophecies From Joseph Smith: ua-cam.com/video/X2e4WSjx1pA/v-deo.html Mormon Forefathers Were Blasphemers: ua-cam.com/video/l1rkoNiws_0/v-deo.html Testimony of an Ex-Mormon: ua-cam.com/video/j2I9LpDF708/v-deo.html Hidden Truths Behind Mormonism: ua-cam.com/video/a1BLR4rufYA/v-deo.html 9 Facts that the Mormon Church Doesn’t Want you to Know: ua-cam.com/video/qwLviskWpyY/v-deo.html The Mormon Flowchart for Your Soul: jesusisthetruth.com/Mormonism_Explained.html Dr. Ron Rhodes on the Differences between Mormonism and Biblical Christianity: ua-cam.com/video/lZ-PweMqhGM/v-deo.html Dr. Ron Rhodes on an Overview of Cults: ua-cam.com/video/Ji2U3CWvsWU/v-deo.html Dr. Ron Rhodes on 10 Keys to Answering Cultists at Your Door: ua-cam.com/video/hv-o_dq5uek/v-deo.html Dr. David Reagan on the Deception of the Cults: christinprophecy.org/articles/the-deception-of-the-cults/ Dr. David Reagan on The Danger of False Prophets: christinprophecy.org/articles/the-danger-of-false-prophets/ Dr. David Reagan on Joseph Smith, the Ego-Maniacal False Prophet: christinprophecy.org/articles/joseph-smith/ Dr. David Reagan on the Tangled Web of Mormonism: christinprophecy.org/articles/the-tangled-web-of-mormonism/ Lastly, at the very least I would ask that you please just pray about all of this if you want to know the truth, and I have no doubt that the Holy Spirit will show you the truth and leave you with no doubt about everything I’ve said here. May the peace of Christ be with you! Matthew 7:15 - Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. 1 John 4:1 - Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world. 2 Corinthians 11:13-15 - 13 For such [are] false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.15 Therefore [it is] no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works. Salvation Verses: Romans 10:9 - That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. John 3:16 - For God so loved the world, that He gave His one and only Son, that whosoever believes in Him should not perish, but have eternal life. John 3:36 - He who believes in the Son has eternal life, but he who does not obey the Son will not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him.
I have read it more than once, but it's very evident that you have not based on what you've said here. I would highly recommend that you check out some of Jeff Durbin's videos on youtube where he's talking to groups of Mormons, as you're following a false religion, which was started by a false prophet who received his "revelation" from the devil. He makes some very good arguments while discussing the true gospel from the King James Holy Bible, and clearly shows why Mormonism is completely wrong and false. Time is short as Jesus is coming back soon, and now is the time to turn from the lies you've been taught in the heretical and blasphemous Mormon church.
Also, the original message I intended to post got cut off, so here it is in it's entirety: I just want to point out that I accept the King James Version of the Bible as the absolute truth and inspired Word of God, and I understand the Mormon Church uses this version of the bible as well. Where things go astray however, is while the bible was written before and shortly after the death of Christ, and again was accepted by the Church as the true and inspired Word of God, the subsequent book of Mormon wasn’t written until the 1800’s, after Joseph Smith allegedly received some golden tablets from an angel named Moroni. Here’s the question I have that I haven’t seen brought up by others though. If you can accept that God is perfect and all knowing and that the King James Version of the bible is the true inspired Word of God, then why would God need to send an angel, whose name is not mentioned in the bible by the way, in order to change His Word and start a whole new religion through having Joseph Smith proclaim himself as a modern day profit, followed by his writing of the Book of Mormon. The answer is that God wouldn’t do this, because He got it right the first time. Furthermore, it is well documented that Joseph Smith was a convicted felon of multiple offenses, including theft and attempted murder, who was practicing divination or the summoning of spirits using a spirit stone, when he received a visit from an "angel". And I would just note here too that such practices are condemned and forbidden by God in the bible. Furthermore, he was searching for gold when he was summoning a spirit when he received his visitation and was given the "golden tablets". My point here is that Joseph Smith was not visited by an angel of God, but most likely by the very devil himself who gave Smith his "revelation", and that Smith is a false profit who started a false religion that is leading millions of people away from God if they don't realize the truth and accept Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior. Furthermore, Mormons believe that God had a mother, that God has a wife on another planet who he has spirit babies with, that they (Mormons) themselves will become gods and be able to make spirit babies of their own for their own special planets if they live perfect lives, that Jesus and the devil were brothers, that Jesus was really the archangel Michael but became Jesus when he was here on earth but returned to being Michael when he returned to heaven, that special magical underwear is required to ward off evil doing, and that black people were originally white people who became cursed for siding with the devil and became black folks who were unworthy of temple worship or associating with. This of course is all blasphemous, heretical and absolutely unbiblical nonsense, none of which of course is volunteered by the Mormon missionaries when they're going around knocking on people's doors trying to gain new converts for the devil. All I can ultimately do however is lean on the true Word of God, and in the end if someone cannot except that as true then there’s nothing more I can do but to pray for them. I feel that it’s my responsibility as a Christian to do what I can to witness to others though, so at least they will have heard the truth whether they choose to accept it or not. I will tell you too that the true Gospel of Christ is explained in 1 Corinthians 15, which tells you that you will be saved if you believe that Christ died on the cross for our sins, was buried, and that he rose again on the third day and ascended into heaven where He sits on the right hand of God the Father Almighty. A sinner’s prayer would include a believer professing all of this, but also should include repentance and the asking of forgiveness for all of your sins. Once you’ve done this, by professing your faith, believing in the gospel and repenting of your sins, then the bible says that you will be saved. Sadly though, for those who refuse to accept this free gift offered through accepting Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior, they face eternity in outer darkness, separated from the true Love of God forever. Hopefully, you will see the truth and accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior, and turn away from the false teachings of the Mormon Church which is doing nothing but leading its followers into eternal damnation. Lastly, at the very least I would ask that you please just pray about all of this if you want to know the truth, and I have no doubt that the Holy Spirit will show you the truth and leave you with no doubt about everything I’ve said here. May the peace of Christ be with you! Matthew 7:15 - Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. 1 John 4:1 - Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world. 2 Corinthians 11:13-15 - 13 For such [are] false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.15 Therefore [it is] no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works. Salvation Verses: Romans 10:9 - That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. John 3:16 - For God so loved the world, that He gave His one and only Son, that whosoever believes in Him should not perish, but have eternal life. John 3:36 - He who believes in the Son has eternal life, but he who does not obey the Son will not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him.
My Dear, Do you believe that Heavenly Father loves you less than ancient peoples? It is important to understand that you came from royal lineage and are as important as anyone ever born, no matter what century. Just as you keep a journal for your posterity, ancient peoples here did the same. We all have something to teach our children and grandchildren. WE ARE THEIR GRANDCHILDREN! Our families in the Book of Mormon are teaching us. The devil is very cunning. He knows our weaknesses. He can see our strengths. He knows you can be a force for good. As you fall to your knees tonight ask Heavenly Father what your mission in life is, is it really to tear another’s beliefs apart? Contention, created loving in guidance or not, is still contention and contention is of the devil. Allowing the Light of Christ to guide you can be overwhelming at times if we are not prepared to listen and change. We came to this Earth to be tried and tested. We were not sent here to judge others, only love them. We can quote scripture all day, but that will not draw us closer to our Savior. I pray you find the light you are seeking, instead of trying to rob another’s. It’s a waste of previous time and energy, when we could be spend our time changing into what God intended for us to become while in this earthly state. I love you.
Satan was an Angel it says he was called the Son of the morning in the scriptures and that he was cast down, so he very well could have been the spiritual brother of Jesus. Also a God that shares his glory is much more believeable than one that hoards his power and glory to have all for his self. I would much more believe in one that creates and fosters his sons and daughters than having one let you sit in a cloud and play a harp.
I'm fully in agreement with your first half explanation of where the main Nephite settlements were likely to have been as there is much evidence which overlaps with Hopewell cultural places and timeliness. I find the far west stories less likely. Despite the fact that Brigham Young mentioned several things which you quoted, I cannot imagine the Gadianton robbers and others like Moroni being that far west and then still coming to Western NY at a later date.
I've always wanted to know why the LDS church doesn't use the inspired version of the bible? Puzzling since Joseph Smith was reported to have translated it.
@@mikeparker2520 it was finished, I own a copy, and it reads amazingly. As I have found out. Brigham Young tries to steal the manuscript from Emma Smith, and when he couldn't get ahold of it. He directed those that left the original church and went with him to Utah not to use it.
The greeting of American Indians “how” outing an arm to the square.! And “bury your hatchet”!as a means of forgiveness or ending a fight. Is also very telling!
Rick McGhee Or you could read the book and see that your assumption is totally off. It is a complicated book of quality literature, where the writing habits of each author differs in style. Drugs could never produce it.
riingram have you read the book? The 1830 version? Brother, that book is a made up book. I served in the church Bishopric for 5 years. That whole time, I knew nothing about Joseph Smith marrying 14 year olds, sending men on missions to marry their wives, or “translating” with a rock in a hat. Shot and killed two people, burned down a printing press that his second counselor was exposing his polygamy. His use of the Jupiter talisman, his love for Captain Kidd, who lived on the island of Cumorah in the capital city of Moroni. You have to evaluate the character of Joseph Smith. He was arrested and convicted of glass looking (stealing people’s money for his alleged ability to find gold with his seer stone. His direct addition of the KJV bible with errors was plagiarized. He also added complete sentences from Marco Polo, The Last War, View of the Hebrews. He said he was better than Jesus Christ. He preached that people lived on the moon. He gave numerous false prophecies. There is ZERO proof of the Book of Mormon archeology. Zero! He happened upon bones that he said was Zelph. His translation of The Book of Abraham is completely false. He DID not even adhere to the 10 commandment. He murdered, committed adultery, he covenanted his neighborhoods wives, he lied, he stole, he used the lords name in vain. He did, however, love his neighbors, like loved them sexually. You must criticize his character The Book of Mormon is not true You are under mind control, like I was for 48 years. It’s not easy to leave the church. But they were wrong on blacks, and they are wrong on gays. They make women inferior to men. The “priesthood” was never a real thing. He had several versions of the First Vision. Research the BITE model, Steve Hassan. The luciferian LDS is completely wrong. They have Satanic symbols, they perform works for the dead, which is not-biblical at all. I’m trying not to be disrespectfully, but your off the cuff suggestion, that I read the book, is a typical Mormon response. Mormons are the most judgmental group of people I have ever been a part of.
Rick McGhee I'm sorry you felt disillusioned. I was just released from a Bishopric as well. I've read the book many times in 2 languages. It is impossible for it to be made up. It adheres to too much history accurately. As for Joseph Smith, there is very little evidence about who he married and weather he had sexual relationships with them. Obviously he didn't have very many sexual relationships with them because there is no offspring to back that theory up. I personally don't doubt that he had sex with at least a few of his wives (even though there is zero evidence). But it doesn't bother me just as it doesn't bother me that Abraham had many wives with which he had children. I'm just glad that it is not around anymore. As for the 14 year old Daughter of Heber C. Kimball, Helen Mar Kimball, she went to her grave testifying that she and the Prophet never consumated a marriage. Fanny Alger was also young, but again there are no writings where she states that they had sex. Most of these marital situations were Temple sealings only with temple blessings promised. Having studied a lot of this history, I believe that there was a misunderstanding of how Temple sealings worked.
riingram brother, why would a grown man marry a 14 year old. Doesn’t that bother you. The article of faith, states, that we will obey the laws of the land, and subjected to them. He didn’t. Polygamy was never legal. He attempted to make his own currency (treasonous). Doesn’t it bother you that we were told how he translated the plates, then the church comes clean with the truth (rock in a hat). They still teach it in primary that he was physically looking at the plates. The book my friend, is totally fabricated. Have you read anything of Swedenborg’s. How is it that the true church as been modified over time to conform to cultural events. People living on the moon and they dress like quakers who also live for a 1000 years. I applaud you for your civil debate. I hope that I’m not coming off abrasive. Take care. Love you brother.
1st Nephi chapter 1: Nephi when in Jerusalem escaped with his family to the Red Sea 250 miles, away by foot and in 600BC. Once they arrived his dad remembered his birth records were back in Jerusalem. So Nephi walks back 250 miles, kills a dude, gets birth records and walks back to the Red Sea 250 miles. His family so happy they got the records. No one was surprise this feat was actually accomplished. Then his dad remembered there would be no women in the new world for his sons to get freaky with. So they walk back to Jerusalem "250 miles" to look for chicks. They find chicks but these chicks had parents so Nephi, his two brothers, three chicks with their old parents walked back to the Red Sea "250 miles away", through the Arabian desert with no water and wearing flip flops. These are Super Jews who could have just walked to freedom.
Rick McGhee Are Mormons Jesus' faithful? Jesus said His faithful would suffer persecution. The only persecution Mormons have suffered in 200 years is laughter. Christians were massacred and still are to this day. I seriously doubt Jesus was talking about the Mormons. "THEY'RE ALL GOING TO LAUGH AT YOU"!
shawn mcaraphy That would be ignoring the mobs that drove them out west, the two Mormon wars and the Missouri extermination order. Mormons were persecuted in the last 200 years years. Can you name a time when Christianity was persecuted in the last 200 years? And no, ISIS does not count unless you concede that Mormons are also being persecuted by them.
Steggoraptor are you serious? Have you researched this occult. They weren’t driven out because they studied their own scriptures. It’s because they tried to subvert the constitution and polygamy; which was totally against the US law. Meadow Mountain Massacre. Look up The Kirkland Society.
Steggoraptor Compared to the thousands of Christians who were fed to the lions and burnt at the stake is hardly a comparison. Mormons laughed at while Christians died by the thousands. I doubt Jesus was talking about the Mormons.
Awesome vids and research. I am glad you are outside of the academic establishment, breathing the air of freedom and truth, and can share this evidence that the establishment covers up!!! I am glad you can share the evidence to the world on youtube!
Back when we lived in Veyo Utah, mid 70s. The newspaper in St. George every week would reprint an newspaper article that had been printed on that day a 100 years before in St. George. One was a story about the person who was in charge of the lumber mill in Pine Valley that milled lumber I believe for the Salt Lake Tabernacle. This individual came to the Prophet Brigam Young who was in St. George at that time and told Brigham that things at the mill were disappearing and it was a problem. Brigham told him to move the mill to a new location. Because it had been built on a mass burial location of Gadianton robbers and it was the spirits of the same causing the problems. He reported back sometime later and said the problem was taken care of. And that things were well with the new location.
Michael P: First of all great job on all your videos, I have watched all 6 of them so far. Is #7 coming up anytime soon ? Secondly, I can see that you subscribe to the theory that the BofM took place in North America v.s. the other school of thought that claims it happened in Mesoamerica. I'm trying to be neutral and study both schools of thoughts before I make my own conclusions. Now, I was wondering if you could help me with this: So based on archeological findings as well as what the BofM tells us, the Nephites went extinct around 421 A.D. My question is: Have any archeological findings been made after that date ? Meaning, did the Lamanites leave any evidence of their existence after 421 A.D ? I read somewhere that there is a gap archaelogically speaking between 421 A.D and 900 A.D. and what was found after 900 A.D. is not necessarily BofM related. Any ideas or help with this ?
The Book of Mormon never mentions the plains of the Nephites. But it does mention Nephites that sailed north looking for a new place to live. Perhaps Moroni, now an enemy in his own land, went looking for them. He never indicates where he intends to bury the Book of Mormon. I think it is just an assumption from a poor reading of the Book of Mormon that Moroni buried the record in the Hill Cumorah. The book itself never makes that claim.
Regarding the Zarahemla name around 13:50, Since Jerusalem is still existing, the "New" title is necessary. But, since Zarahemla is extinct, there's no need for a "New" in it. I feel like the Lord did not include "New" due to *that* rather because it is the same exact place. That said, it could still very well be that it's (more or less) the same spot, no one knows.
Do have to point out that the place where Joseph took out the plates wasn't necessarily the hill cummorah. Members at the time called it that and Joseph Smith made reference to it as hill commorah years later possibly going along with the nickname of the hill but there's no good evidence that it is the hill cummorah spoken of in the Book of Mormon.
Yes! The Kaw tribe talk about how long ago, the lower Mississippi river actually used to be a massive inlet of the Gulf of Mexico, but a massive earthquake happened that raised up the land enough for the inlet to drain and be reduced to what is now the lower Mississippi river. And because of the New Madrid quake of 1811-1812, we know that massive earthquakes happen along the New Madrid fault line every few hundred years that shake the entire eastern half of the U.S. and alter its landscape.
@@MichaelP_IsMe there are also a LOT of fossilized sea creatures in the limestone, which is quite abundant in the area. I used to love pretending I was an archaeologist when I was a kid haha.
If the Book of Mormon took place at all you would not be wondering where it took place. Do you have to wonder where the Roman Empire took place? No. You go visit the sites.
Can you explain the narrow neck of land and why Mormon chose that for a strategic point to defend the North from the Lamanites in the South and where it is in North America?
In Alma 63:5-8, it talks about ships sailing in the west sea by a narrow neck of land that led into the land northward. What area would this be? In these verses it states that the ships were built by the borders of the land Bountiful and by the land desolation.
The importance of a "NewJerusalem" is it is the site of government. There can be various new Jerusalems whatever the capitol city is named. For example Salt Lake City was the seat of government for The State of Deseret. Salt Lake City sat by a dead salt sea with a new Sea of Gallilee located in Provo, Utah. The waters of Utah Lake (the New Gallilee)in Provo ran via the now named Jordan River into the dead salt sea. Salt lake City should have been called New Jerusalem but the religions of the day would not have allowed that designation. Still, what an amazing parallel is Utah to the land of Israel of the Bible. The final "New Jerusalem" will eventually rule the world after Jesus comes in the clouds of heaven. For Jesus is the King of all men whether they know it or not.
Oh I live in St. Louis, oh and I know prior to it being called St. Louis it was actually called mount city, downtown St. Louis was hundreds and hundreds of Indian mounds the entire city and they were leveled by bulldozer only one remains, on the Illinois side there is the ancient site of Cahokia where a lot of the Indian mounts still remain, my questions to you do you have any insight on any of this tying it with the book of Mormon, I would love to see anything that you have, thank you for what you do! I appreciate you
There are Native Americans with HEBREW and other Middle-Eastern languages and customs PRESERVED in their tribes even to this day. It's an undeniable fact. Enjoy! ua-cam.com/video/1vcem3miWvY/v-deo.html
Interesting video. Thank you.
Are you familiar with the idea of the Phoenicians discovering America around 600bc and probably much earlier? Including a copper trade... among everything else we could imagine Im sure.
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Also, this:
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Obviously.. another strange synchronicity that we have the same name and last name initial. :P
Also, my highly intuitive friend suddenly met a guy in the states who asked for the help of her gifts to explore bones in mounds just yesterday.. The idea of Mounds and bones has never entered into my awareness, until yesterday, and your video... Down the rabbit hole we continue.. Blessings.
Michael P very true, my family are Hebrews and native. They have been Hebrews since 1649 here in the America’s.
Michael P they where looking for Moses and the sons of sons
Bullshit.
Regretfully, Michael, there is no indication that any of the many and varied languages of the original inhabitants of the western hemisphere are related to the Semitic languages or even to the other Afro-asiatic languages of which the Semitic langauge family is a member. Indeed there are several diverse language families in North and South America, which are not related to one another or, at best, could possibly be remotely related to one another. The Mayan languages, for example, are typologically ergsative-absolutive languages, while the semitic languages are nominative-accusative languages. One can always find a few random correspondences of vocabulary or morphology, but to really show a liguistic relationship, there would have to thousands of correspondences and systematic relationship between the correspondences. For example, we find a very close relationship among Latin, Ancient Greek and Sanscrit, based upon thousands of correspondences, as well as systematic, explainable differences amonfg the three languages.
I live in the Moundbuilders ward in Central Ohio... Within 10 miles of a number of different mounds. They are remarkable.
There is a ward called, Moundbuilders? Very interesting
Geography - www.utlm.org/newsletters/no103.htm#Cumorah
I live close to the Illinois mounds, there's one 5 minutes outside of my town. It's so exciting to live where we do!
@@patrickmoore8915 It’s probably the Newark Ward.
Cool. Now all you need to confirm those areas as "Book of Mormon lands" is evidence of ancient horse culture, wheeled vehicles, metal tools and weaponry, evidence of Judeo-Christian worship, Hebrew or Egyptian language, etc.
I really appreciate the people who post audio versions of the scriptures on UA-cam. When I have an upsetting event, all I have to do is listen to the scriptures and I get back in check. If persons can read (even Braille) or hear, no reason not to do the scriptures daily. Thank you from the desert country.
I kept falling asleep listening to the book.
I'm a convert to the church and I have a testimony of the book of Mormon.
I do to and it is false. It doesn't come from God.
James McCluskey me too! 😊💗
What is it?
Do tell us
Edward Christopher everyone has different experiences, just because you think that, doesn’t mean it’s true. You can think it but I know for a fact that this Church is true for myself
Amen to all this. The Book of Mormon has come alive for me unlike it has before and made much more sense back when I first discovered the research of the FIRM Foundation
The Book of Mormon is true. I was just near the Cahokia area in Illinois. I drive semi trucks
I really appreciate your efforts & courage in making this series, I served in the heart land of America & was in places where it felt to me that the Book of Mormon came to life in some truly beautiful and amazing places. As I spoke with and researched prayerfully into the native peoples of America this became more & more clear. Now with every passing year the power of this amazing book translated by a Prophet of God is truly astonishing and brings peace to my life I thought I would never find.
Been looking into Mormonism quite a bit mainly as a cool piece of uniquely American culture and I found that it made a lot of sense to me. Thanks for your video
Al Ross = Native Americans know the Book is a fraud
Silver Eagle - Your point being...
Some of the most amazing Mormons (the church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints) I have ever met were Native American these are people with a love of God & all his creation that will change the ways to look at life. Read the book of Mormon and honestly ask God about what is in it, it is astounding what it does to make any life closer to the God that gave all of us life.
Joseph smith was a fraud, his book is a fraud.its sad people are reaching to try to make this real.
@@silvereagle4903 What's your response to Paul Gregersen DEBUNKING the EGYPTOLOGISTS?
Cahokia Mounds another amazing site across from St. Louis in Illinois. Museum there, also. I’ve been there in 2017. Worth the trip. Huge mound has the feel of a sophisticated civilization there, no denying that. Amazing to me that the Hopewells and their numerous artifacts are not given the same press as Aztecs and Mayans, whose more glamorous structures still stand. The Book of Mormon is indeed the truth. These people who were wiped out by the millions, lived and worshipped Jesus Christ.
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The fact that there are opposing groups of believers in the Book of Mormon who theorize locales for its events which are thousands of miles apart from each other tells us that there isn't enough evidence in either location to even begin to determine where they occurred, or if they occurred at all.
The population figures and culture and technology described in the BOM dictates that unambiguous physical evidence to confirm their existence should have been found decades ago. That evidence should be as abundant as the artifacts from the Mayan empire. "Nephite" cities with their original names should be scattered all over the Americas, just as there are Mayan and Aztec cities with their original names. But none have been found. Obvious conclusion: They never existed.
Well done Michael! A well thought through and organized presentation with literal references to read. Lots to think about a research myself now, but it makes much more sense than Mesoamerica setting. Thanks!
Took place in a satanist warped mind, made up nonsense used to dupe moronic halfwits that fall for this Boloni hahaha 🤡🤡🤡🤡 Boloni buried nothing 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
Very informative. As i read the Book of Mormon my testimony grow stronger. I know it is true.
In my case is the opposite. The more i read the Book of Mormon the more anachronistic it becomes
READ MY COMMENT AT THE TOP PAGE.
1 Nephi 12 -23
2 Nephi 5 - 21.
When did Jesus Christ preach this.?
I always thought that Central America was the landing spot the Lehi and family and spread throughout America. It makes more sense the later part in the Book of Mormon to be in Missouri. I like your work you've done with the old texts of old books from the Prophets.
No matter where the actual sites are it matters not, The Book of Mormon is true and I love it!!!!
Nice brief research that addresses the investigator’s interest as well as saints who have a yearning to review their foundation.
I have not been to any of these mounds. I live in Asia. I've never seen Joseph Smith. Nor any of the LDS prophets nor any of it's general officers. But I've read the Book of Mormon. I know it's true. It is scripture, much as the Bible is scripture. The test is very simple.
Read it with the a sincere heart and real intent, and pray about it with same sincerity and real intent. It's plain and simple. If you read it to find faults on it, that won't work. You have to read it with real desire to know the truth, with faith in Christ that He will let you know if it's true or not. This test has never failed a sincere person who really wants to know the truth. IT HAS NOT FAILED ME. NOR THE THOUSANDS, MILLIONS WHO DID IT.
"3 Behold, I would exhort you that when ye shall read these things, if it be wisdom in God that ye should read them, that ye would remember how merciful the Lord hath been unto the children of men, from the creation of Adam even down until the time that ye shall receive these things, and ponder it in your hearts.
4 And when ye shall receive these things, I would exhort you that ye would ask God, the Eternal Father, in the name of Christ, if these things are not true; and if ye shall ask with a sincere heart, with real intent, having faith in Christ, he will manifest the truth of it unto you, by the power of the Holy Ghost."
Moroni 10:3-4
Kris Sue Moroni, the capital of Cumoruh? 34 wives? Pedophilia? Treason? Arson? Murder? These are facts regarding Joseph Smith, you don’t have to pray about those “feelings” because they are verifiable with court records and personal accounts. Do some research.
What makes you think I didn't do my research? And it's Cumorah, not Cumoruh. I think you should be the one who should do your research.
Kris Sue because if you did do some research, you would use that book for a fire starter.
"But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned."
1 Corinthians 2:14
If you are spiritual, my suggestion of "praying to God" would not be met by disdain and unbelief. I won't really waste my time explaining something important to you if you've already closed your mind. Only someone with an open mind would listen. So yeah. bye bro. Peace.
Kris Sue later my friend. Be safe!
I’m in 8th grade and we were actually taught about the Mound Builders, I was already studying them and watching videos so I ended up doing good.
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Joseph smith was a murderer and a child molester! Facts
@Luka Vega do some research
@Luka Vega yeah, that douche bag was telling his worshippers to let him fuck their 13 year old daughters. It’s a fact
@Luka Vega Mormonism is hella wack. Sorry if you got suckered into their bullshit
Amazing video! Tons of effort put into this video and is appreciated by many.
I'm not a Mormon and never will be BUT these videos have been super interesting and fun to listen to. :)
Lol indeed. It's mind boggling what stuff they hold on.
Never say never!
@@gypsyolie2028 Never say never Short Creek is not that far man! www.wivesofjosephsmith.org
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@@Lion_Hamza The reason he (Michael P.) Holds only to all this scritpure evidence is because he's an LDS talking to other LDS. He's helping those of us all ready converted, not trying to convert new memebers. That's like trying to teach children addition with algebra. You simply don't start in the middle.
If there were a ancient civilization where are all the ruins there as to be ruins. You can't have all these cities and towns and wars etc without having ancient ruins.
And inventions that didn't even exist
LDS is always true and loveable. I always feel spirit of seeing Mormon videos and talks. By the way I love them all.
I went on my mission to Ohio and saw many mounds. We had a zone conference at one mound and they had a museum there with armor and helmets. I was unaware until then that those kind of artifacts were found there. I went on splits in Circleville, and there is a sign outside the city stating "this city is built within a prehistoric circular earthworks" or some wording close to that. Great video - thanks!
Christopher Westra Which mission? I was in Cincinnati from '01 - '03, and I had no idea about the mound-builder culture back then! It's probably for the best, or I might have spent too much time on the mission wanting to learn about them back then :) But I am going back to visit a lot of the ancient forts and cities soon. 2 of them were right near my first area in Hamilton! Yet I had no idea they were even there :)
I was in the Ohio Columbus Mission.
+Christopher Westra Where was the museum you went to? Last summer I went to one at Fort Ancient and right in Columbus, but I'd love to go to as many as I can to see more artifacts :)
+Christopher Westra
"I was unaware until then that those kind of artifacts were found there."
That's because they were not found there.
No evidence of metal has ever been found anywhere in North America that existed prior to European contact in the the 16th century. These helmets and armors that you describe have never been found in Woodland or Mississippian mound builder cultures. Radio carbon dating is an empirical scientific method. Somebody is fibbing to you.
Dude, you are really behind. They've found them already. It is you who is being fibbed.
alma 31: 3 says “Now the Zoramites had gathered themselves together in a land which they called Antionum, which was east of the land of Zarahemla, which lay nearly bordering upon the seashore, which was south of the land of Jershon, which also bordered upon the wilderness south, which wilderness was full of the Lamanites.”
I guess this rules out Zarahemla’s location but your video is really interesting and I took a lot from it. Keep up the good work. It amazes me how many derogatory comments there are on here as well. Do people not have better things to do with their time than watch and comment on videos that they supposedly take nothing to do with?
I very much enjoy this type of enlightening information, I'm grateful that the Lord has blessed us with people like you that is able to research and study and peace all of these things together it is absolutely inspiring.
Thanks very much for taking the time to do all of this research and study and to put this video together and your subsequent videos so that we are all able to understand and be more informed of where the truth lies.
What an enlightening endeavor you have made with this research, my friend! Thank you!
I like this. It compliments the work of Wayne May and others. Very enlightening.
Shawn Bradford such passion you have
Thank you Brother. I live 30 miles from Palmyra Temple. I will take that walk between the two park benches. Thank you!
Well done. I think knowing where Manti and Zarahemla are helps you to figure out where the rest of the cities were.
It's a fable, You may as well be looking for Narnia, or Rivendale, or Hogwarts.
Austin Beckham Hahahahahaha
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Wyoming Horseman, can you stop dogging on people? If you don't even believe can you go away.
What’s a fable? The most correct book of any book on earth-even the Book of Mormon!
Are you going to continue with more parts of this like you did for, The Book of Mormon series...???
RbM
did you know there is a park in Anderson, Indiana called "Mounds State Park" where there are Indian burial grounds, mounds of earth where heaps of bodies were buried?
@Ralph Wiggam That is the dumbest attempt at an insult. First of all, many many hard metal swords have been dug up all across the midwest area. In addition, why would the dead be buried with their weapons, especially in light of the fact that weaponry would have been difficult to make? Don't be dumb.
Ralph Wiggam en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metallurgy_in_pre-Columbian_America
read the north america portion. pre colombian hard metal use in north america, precisely where the video is talking about the book of mormon taking place
Ralph Wiggam there is also evidence of iron working in north america (see the same article) and just because there’s hasn’t necessarily been a steel sword found, keep in mind that they are notoriously difficult to find anywhere in the world, even from biblical lands. the majority of the BOM people’s would have used copper tools
@Ralph Wiggam you failed to see that i said "steel" swords. and yes, the earliest found STEEL sword from biblical times is 600BC, despite mentions of them earlier. no dip they have found tons of swords, but steel swords are a different matter. the people who owned them were wealthy, and there were very few of them, making them difficult to find.
by all means, continue trying to "fix the world" by wielding your sword of hatred, pun intended.
i'm not "lyin for jesus", you're deliberately ignoring part of what I said.
also on your bit of "there are literally thousands of artifacts of native americans using spears", yeah they definitely used spears. if you read the book of mormon, it speaks of the lamanites and the nephites using spears, clubs, and other types of native american weaponry. the swords were , in the example of the sword of laban, rare and used by those with status, AS WE HAVE SEEN ALL AROUND THE WORLD this is how swords were distributed. accusing me of lying does nothing to hide your faulty logic, as well as the fact that you would grasp any straw to prove this book untrue. i'm very sorry if you have had bad experiences with mormons, but grow up and don't let it ruin your life. there are bad people everywhere, and if you make it your mission to destroy whole groups just because of bad experiences with a few, you'll be miserable.
good luck.
Ralph Wiggam let’s also conveniently ignore the dna similarities between jews and the hopewell indians, the advanced armor systems found in the mounds, the fortified cities that match the descriptions in the BOM precisely, the finding of middle eastern artifacts, the geographical evidence (where things are located, seas rivers and wilderness,), the concrete work found, BARLEY being in north america, and the strange amount of intelligence it would have taken for Joseph Smith, a man with a first graders education (who didn’t even know jerusalem had walls) to come up with such an intricate story that has no plot holes, the writing styles of each prophet is different, and miraculously has countless evidences of it being real, that i’ve just listed above, and there are even more then i’ve said. you’re picking apart my words to try to counter me with minute, stupid logic, that doesn’t even follow what i said in the first place, and you’ll likely do it again. “show me evidence of middle eastern artifacts” grow up. move on, and don’t pick fights where you know you’ll lose. my previous statement also still stands, i hole you find peace after this with God and your fellow man.
where is part 2? thank you for your information :) I know all these things. I am happy you are opening minds about the truth. I'm going to use this as a tool to help spread the truth.
+Nanaminera A I'm glad you enjoyed the video. I got started on researching The Book of Mormon in North America about 3 years ago when I first watched the research of Wayne May and Rod Meldrum. I love making videos about what I learn, but I've learned far far more than I have time to make videos about it. Good old life's priorities get in the way :) Right now I'm working on shorter 5-10 minute videos, but hopefully sometime this year I'll get Part 2 of this video done as well. In the meantime, here are 3 shorter videos I've made over the last few months.
ua-cam.com/video/Oef_MBInu2E/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/bcscJXWJoeI/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/H2bk-UtYGbc/v-deo.html
+Michael P thank you I will keep watching . all ready shared most of your vids with family and on Facebook.
+Michael P where could I find some earth mounds ,hills here in Utah? you had mentioned there are some here too?. I had seen all of Wayne Mays talks and Rod Meldrum's videos a couple years ago. brother Meldrum was in my ward, is a real humble man and extremely smart,and very nice. but both of their videos are very long ,I don't care about watching them and very few people will actually watch it. so thank you for making these videos ,you show the important proof they had (Wayne and Rod) and made it into a shorter video I can share with others. I love to share new information specially if it has to do with the Lord. My father back in the late 80 s early 90 s just by reading the book of Mormon was able to show the same thing Wayne says ,same neck of land same continent. I know it's true because the Lord always gives more than one witness. And there are many others who have figured it out too. Joseph Smith never said it was in south or central America he has always said it was here in the u.s.
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AWESOME. Thanks Much!
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What's been presented here is definitely interesting. There are a lot statements that have been made that provide clues to the Book of Mormon geography. I think it helps, to interpret these statements more broadly rather than narrowly, however. I believe that the majority of evidence points to the Book of Mormon events primarily taking place in Central America, mostly because of travel distances of armies during wartime. These descriptions would suggest that the geography was relatively small. It would take a certain amount of days to march from one city to another, etc. Most church leaders and scholars hold this opinion as well. The majority of official church visuals, movies, videos, and art show a tropical, Mesoamerican setting. Just to quickly address some of the points made in the video: 1. I also believe that Joseph Smith's Zelph prophecy is true. We know that the Nephites migrated northward many times in ships and on land. The Book of Mormon specifically mentions the People of Ammon (who were Lamanites) moving into northern lands. There's no limit to how far northward these people could have traveled and they could have had prophets raised up among them. 2. Statements by Brigham Young about the Gadianton Robbers inhabiting the mountains around St. George could be a literal statement, but more likely, figurative. If there were wicked men who had lived in the area anciently, and their spirits resided in the mountains, then his statement could still be true. 3. The assumption that the city Manti was in Missouri is a big one. According to the video, the assumption is being made because of two journal entries from members of the church who were under that impression. These could have been rumors. I don't think there was an official statement made by Joseph Smith on the issue. 4. Also, when Book of Mormon prophets speak of future events happening in "this land", "this land" could easily be referring to North America. It could even be both North and South America. 5. Also, with all the parallels between Hopewell and Israelite cultures, there's no reason why other groups couldn't have been lead out of Jerusalem to the Americas. In fact, we know that "God has lead away from time to time from the house of Israel" (2 Nephi 10:22). There's nothing in scripture that says that the Jaredites, Lehites, and Mulekites were the only people lead to this land. We know that the America's were full of different cultures and peoples that had nothing to do with the Book of Mormon. In the Book of Mormon we're told that the writings only contain a small fraction of what was going on with so many people. 6. I think that Moroni, could have wandered for many years with the plates before getting to what is now New York state. During which time, I believe he dedicated the hill on which the Manti temple was built. Anyway, just my two cents.
I love your point of view! I'm always open to finding new evidences of the book of Mormon, thank you for this new info. If you're open to it, here's some of the evidence that currently has me guessing these events took place in North America:
The Smoking Gun of Book of Mormon Geography by Jonathan Neville:
bookofmormonevidence.org/the-smoking-gun-of-book-of-mormon-geography-2/
Undeniable Archaeological Evidence of The Book of Mormon in North America by Rod Meldrum:
ua-cam.com/video/TDdnWtVWre8/v-deo.html
Moroni's America by Jonathan Neville:
www.moronisamerica.com/
Ether 13:3 Referring to the land where the Lord brought the Jaredites and the Nephites, Moroni states this land "[will be] the place of the New Jerusalem which should come down out of heaven, and the holy sanctuary of the Lord." Modern revelation tells us this location will be in Missouri, which is the gathering place for this remnant of the House of Israel. Why would the place of gathering be in Missouri if the people are from Central or South America?
Have you ever heard of Adam-Ondi-Ahman?
@@TheShinyDog I think he is asking a rhetorical question there...inferring that Missouri is the one that makes sense
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Okay... I found this video fascinating.
Love this You make Church History so interesting and explain it so well Thank you
Makes church fictional 🐂🐂🐂🐂 💩💩💩💩💩 more interesting 🤔 Moronman
I Believe there is a time and place for everything. I have seen going from Arizona to St. George on the 15, rows of Nephite soldiers waiting to go to battle with the angels standing over them to protect them. I always wondered what I was seeing in this other dimension, my children were able to see this also as we were driving to Logan one night. And now I understand that it was the Nephites going to battle the Gadianton robbers. This rings so true to me now that I understand the locations. Thank you❤️
Sassy Momma66, thank you for sharing about seeing nephite soldiers prepping for battle with the gaddiantons. Like them we are also encompassed about by the gaddianton robbers today. Good luck and see you on the other side
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Gadianton robbers all went to Hollywood
The more of such Insanity that I read the more hopeless I realize that it is for Mormons. They are the most deluded people on the face of the Earth far surpassing the Catholics!
Storms and whirlwinds are mentioned more than once and a closer look at the reports of the New Madrid earthquakes during the 1800's tells me the Heartland area is the correct place and there is "Only one Cumorah"!
I was just telling some friends at church about the New Madrid earthquakes. They are in their last 60's and had never heard of them.
James Myers, search New Madrid Missouri for info on the 1811 earthquake.
I find it interesting that people who believe in God yet refuse to believe He dealt with people all over the earth not merely in the middle east. Then they refuse to read the record which proves the validity of the Bible and testifies to the divinity of Jesus Christ. The history of people God guided from the old world over to the America's is quite fascinating whether you choose to believe or not. I find this to be a great asset helping the understanding of how God deals with His people and why we are here upon the earth. I also love the revelations from Christ found in the Doctrine and Covenants of the restoration of the gospel which tells the story how this record was found.
I been really interested to learn more about the Hopewell Indians for a long time. The book of Mormon is Real, I been studying off an on about the ancient america really interesting things. Thanks for sharing this
Jared House So here we have another place on the internet where Mormons come to comment and agree that 1+1=6...,staggering the indoctrination...just staggering!
The biggest problem I see with this model is Alma 22:32. Where is the small neck of land between the land northward and southward? It took 1-1/2 days for a Nephite to cross this neck. Why is not the entire land not "nearly surrounded by water"? I'm not being dismissive or critical. I'm only trying to understand your point of view on these questions.
Don Layton
The great lakes used to be larger and "Michigan" looked more like a head with a funny nose and not a mitten. Narrow pass may not be the same place as narrow neck.
@@李傑西-n1j Very possibly. I believe that's the Phyllis Olive model and one I think is POSSIBLE - yet there are still issues I have with it. I just don't think we have all of the answers yet and won't until the Lord is ready to reveal it.
Now I'm starting to see things a lil more clearly! Thanks! God Bless You. This was confirmation.
I think it took place in the Heartland of North America as well...
There is some very fine research and information presented here, which is greatly appreciated. But because we have conclusive evidence that Moroni's Cumorah was in New York, that does not prove that the narrow neck of land and Zarahemla was north of Adam-ondi-Ahman, or any where that near Cumorah. You can study my manuscript on file at the BYU Maxwell Institute entitled, “Where Does the Two Cumorah Theory Stand?,” by L. La Mar Adams, which shows how the Prophet Joseph and Book of Mormon passages puts the narrow neck of land and Zarahemla far south of Missouri. To say that the Nephits did not exist at least as far south as Central America, in addition to their later living in the US area, is not only contradicting the Prophet Joseph, and most other prophets who have written on the subject, but a number of Book of Mormon passages.
Are you familiar with the Texas Sharp-shooter fallacy?
Mound builders are thought to have been in the area since roughly 3500 BCE to 16th century CE. So already those dates do not comport with the book of Mormon timeline of them coming to the area after Lehi left his home in 600 BC.
Also.. I highly doubt the bones would be just laying where they can pick them up... Considering the amount of that passed they would have to dig for them...
Thanks. Great comment. These heartland theory guys are passionate, but wrong.
Hi A.J., that is correct over-all, but there are 3 mound-builder cultures: 1) The Late Archaic/Adena (approx. 3500 - 300 BCE); then 2) The Hopewell (approx. 500 BCE - 400 CE); and finally 3) The Mississippian (approx. 900 - 1600 CE). The Adena match the Jaredites. The Hopewell match the Nephites/Lamanites. And this is not in timelines alone, but in cultures, artifacts, linguistics, and Native American histories. Then there's a 500-yr gap in mound-building cultures. The Mississippian culture are post-Book-of-Mormon people. According to some Native American tribes, the Snake People (the Mayans) came up from the south, enslaved the smaller tribes for several hundred years, and forced them to build the pyramid-style mounds you see at Cahokia and other places in the southern U.S. (similar to the stone Mayan pyramids, which are exactly the same as the stone pyramids in southeast Asian cultures - Maya and Guatemala are Hindu and Buddhist words as well). But anyway, the 3 different mound-builder cultures are very distinct from each other.
@@MichaelP_IsMe just because the timelines match doesn't mean they are one in the same. That again would be a logical fallacy.. Apophenia if I'm not mistaken. Apophenia by the way is an umbrella term that includes other fallacies such as Texas sharpshooter and paeridolia.
@@blatnick81 like I said above, timelines are not the only thing I'm basing my opinion on. In fact, it's only a very small part of it. I'm also talking about cultures, artifacts, linguistics, and Native American histories that line the Adena and Hopewell up with the Jaredites and Nephites/Lamanites.
@@MichaelP_IsMe similar linguistics is not proof either... Hebrew is rooted from the proto-semitic languages.. Along with most Asian and African languages.. All will have similar linguistics.. That does not mean anything other than the area used the same linguistics in their communication. Same thing goes with cultures and customs... And you just have to look at holiday traditions to see how customs carry over into other cultures
Excellent series of evidence and research. I throughly enjoy your videos and documented facts. Very interesting.
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What I want to speak directly about is the fact that Adam-ohdiahman was already established to be the land where Adam and Eve were kicked out of the Garden of Eden known as Davies County in Missouri. So the land north and east of there was where the Nephites and jaredites dwelt over the years to establish themselves close to Adam-ohdioman. I want you guys to realize when I visit these areas in Northern Missouri I feel things inside my body as a connection to the land and what was there throughout the years. This is a holy land because I do not feel these kinds of things anywhere else but these lands that are asociated with the church. These things are not a connection to just our church they are a connection directly to our Heavenly Father when I feel them because the land is blessed spiritually and cannot be passed off as a specific thing that they are attached to. Most Mormons only know soo much about their bodies being a direct connection to their Heavenly Father and the connection to these lands because they've hardly ever felt these things before or know that there is a direction connection between them.
It took place where Joseph Smith, Brigham Young and JFSmith said. The Yucatan and South America is not mentioned. That does not mean that scattered remnants after 421 AD could have migrated there. But they would not of been of Lehi's blood line I believe but grafted into the bloodline of indigenous peoples.
All of it occurred in the imagination of Smith. Not in reality.
Looking at official Church History documents, the area across from Nauvoo was named Zarahemla out of tribute to the Book of Mormon city of Zarahemla. The same is the case with the area farther south being named Manti. When the Saints relocated to Utah, they continued this practice in naming the cities of Bountiful, Lehi, Nephi, Manti and I'm sure a few others. You should read "The Book of Clues for Book of Mormon Geographers" available on Kindle. It proves from the pages of the Book of Mormon itself that the river Sidon actually ran from south to north. The Mississippi flows from north to south, and always has.
Correct!
Good video, Book of Mormon is true
cesletter.org lol mormonthink.com
Hahahaha bullshit
@@tigerhood6830 John 21:25; acts 11
@@daveyork0 John 21:25;Acts 1:1
I have been watching your videos looking for commentary on the narrow neck of land dividing the north from the south. Where can I find something on that subject?
The Church of Jesus Christ is restored, It is true, it is all true, God be praised for The Gift of The Holy Ghost
Nell, the harbinger of splendid things how do you know it’s true? Empirically??
Nell, the harbinger of splendid things So here we have another place on the internet where Mormons come to comment and agree that 1+1=6...,staggering the indoctrination...just staggering!
The book of Mormon is Fiction
There no pottery no evidence
Fake Book
im not gonna knock nothing butt to say god curse im black i cant do that read due 28 it tells what happen to isreal and judah and tell you who they are if they did not keep the oath this happen to so call africans 100% the curse part and not about skin peace
Why praise a good who lost his own freaking church...lame
This presentation is really good and full of facts worth pondering. Thank you!
Think about that, after around 180 years the Mormon church still doesn't know where the Book of Mormon lands are.
This problem could be rectified once and for all by a church sponsored comprehensive archeological search on and around the 'hill Cumorah', ( an area that the LDS church actually owns).
Joseph Smith's Book of Mormon describes an truly enormous battle at this sight with tens of thousands of armed warriors dying in a desperate struggle.
Many thousands, perhaps millions of artifacts,( steel armour, weapons etc, and of course human remains) must be waiting to be discovered.
This in itself would prove beyond reasonable doubt that North America was the location of the book of Mormon, and that the Nephites and Lamanites really existed, and there really was a great battle at Cumorah.
Also the book of Mormon would be shown to be historically accurate and credible, and Joseph Smith's claim to be a prophet of God and translater of golden plates would be proven true, beyond reasonable doubt.
However, the LDS church has never looked for this evidence 'waiting to be found', and never will.
They know that nothing would be found.
Yet they spend millions of dollars annually doggedly promoting the book of Mormon as truth.
As a claimed accurate historical account, the book of Mormon is ranks as probably the most incorrect book on earth, yet it remains to this day the 'keystone' of that faith, the authority and credibility of both Joseph Smith and the LDS church hang on that keystone.
Read the Holy Bible and trust it completely as God's complete and finished revelation to all mankind through all the ages.
Kind regards to all, especially dear Mormon folk.
Hahaha even if they dug up half the state of New York and found millions of artifacts critics like you would dismiss them as ordinary old Indian relics, not anything specific to the Book of Mormon.
How do you reconcile the up and downs in relation to cities? Eg, Going from Manti to Zarahemla you always go down. The other way is always up?
Heartlanders need to really address this issue.
The heartland model follows the rule of thumb when speaking of goin up or down from one place or another is a difference of elevation. When leaving Jerusalem going anywhere else such as Nazareth you go down into that land since Jerusalem is highest in elevation.
@@accreditedbythenicemaninth6495 heartland doesn’t follow this rule of elevation. Jonathan Neville for example uses up and down to be up a river and down a river?
@@Heartsinmelody who is Jonathan Neville?
@@Heartsinmelody that also isn’t necessary inconsistent, upriver should be higher elevation than downriver if you follow its banks.
Why is there no talk or cold, ice or snow in the Book of Mormon... no mention of cold winters and what about those going to war wearing only a loin cloth ?
That's why serious scholars at BYU usually figure the Book of Mormon to have taken place somewhere in Central America. If you're really interested there is a book called "Mormon's Codex". Its about 800 pages but really interesting if you really are into Archaeology.
bmaf.org/articles/bunch_reasons_not_include_north_america__sorensen
1 ne 11:8 Mentions snow. Lehi wrote the scriptures for his children and posterity. If they had no snow they wouldn’t have known or understood what he was talking about.
Carrie Lynn Skylaglow / 2600 YEARS TO COVER & THERE HAVE BEEN MANY CHANGES IN CLIMATE DURING THAT TIME. THERE WAS A COMPLETE CHANGE PLANET WIDE WHICH HAS BEEN DOCUMANTED by CLIMATOLOGISTS IN MODERN TIMES/ PARROTS (sculptures by us (LAMONITES OR NEPHITES) & they died out & moved south as the climate changed. The sculptures have been found! Check out Wayne May & Rod Meldrum, they can show & confirm t his info for you! God Bless! We are all children of the GREAT FATHER IN HEAVEN! Many are blessed with the ancient descent from Israel & haven’t a clue!
Jerusalem wasn't always a desert. It was once had a beautiful climate. Why do you think it was so sought after for two long. Climate changes, we see it now.
Gosh this information is fantastic! Your research and information is inspiring. I am going to research the recommended topics. Thanks!
In the imaginative mind of Joseph Smith
Exactly 💯
I believe it took pl ace where Mr Rourke and Tattoo live
What most have overlooked and which Joseph Smith only slightly touched upon (D&C 85) is the fact that not only did Lehi sail to America in 600bc but so did Jeremiah the Prophet. Lehi had the Records, Sword of Laban and the Liahona, but Jeremiah brought the Ark of the Covenant, Altar of Incense and the Tent of meeting which will be revealed and will usher in the building of the Temple in Missouri. The Ark is in America...a whirlwind of the Lord has gone forth in fury! Jeremiah 30:23-24.
If you dont think the Ark is in America, then you have not understood the scriptures...the Ark was taken by Jeremiah in around 600bc taken to Egypt, then to Ireland, then to America...see
2 Maccabees 2...Jeremiah came with the Phoenicians who had been sailing to America for at least 1500 years bc
Here is SOLID undeniable evidence that Hebrews were in ancient North America... you can see it right on Google Earth.
ua-cam.com/video/XIR0SFgxS7g/v-deo.html
Michael P RIGHT! There are AT LEAST 110 tribes in N America (Canada as well) I am blessed to belong to 2, OJIBWA/MOHAWK. BOTH have ABCDX2 DNA - Israel DNA. What a BLESSING! They can’t deport us to Israel at this LATE DATE!
Wow science. Hasn't that been debunked?
I've seen that and it looks exactly like the Nile Delta. Anyone, wno has studied fractals rrealizes that fractal geometry is found duplicated in plant life and in sediment, all over the world. The Hebrew Letter Shin or SIN (pronounced like "seen," can be seen in many of the parts of the world, but it is a geological phenomena, not a purposely built one! When they find actual Hebrew manuscripts in the Americas dated to 500-600 BC, then get back to me.
jon, writing "science" and "debunked" means nothing. This, a common tactic usually used by Atheists, means nothing unless you provide evidence, references, etc. Substance is needed when making such an accusation. Your comment was lazy.
U are delusional. Hahahaha its so sad though
If you have locations. Go there and find evidence.
Excellent video, Michael. You may have seen my book on Amazon, Finding the Lands of the Book of Mormon and also Finding Zarahemla. Like you, I didn't follow any archaeological data for my books, I rely solely on Mormon's description of the land south and the narrow neck of land in Alma 22:32. I disagree with you that South America is the land southward. That title of South America was not in use until the time of Joseph Smith. He made the comment that All of America is Zion. In his day this was Spanish America, later Mexico and Central America, British America, later Canada, and the U.S.
It's popular to believe that Columbus discovered America but in his four voyages across the Atlantic he only went to the Caribbean Islands and never set foot on North America. The U.S. is the only country that believes it was Columbus while the rest of the English speaking world believes it was John Cabot.
I believe it was John Cabot that was the "man among the Gentiles" that Nephi saw in vision.
Very Interesting!
Can you point to any articles that discuss the israel gift of land to the cherokees? I cant find anything.
I just want to point out that I accept the King James Version of the Bible as the absolute truth and inspired Word of God, and I understand the Mormon Church uses this version of the bible as well.
The thing is though, while the bible was written before and shortly after the death of Christ, and again was accepted by the Church as the true and inspired Word of God, the subsequent book of Mormon wasn’t written until the 1800’s, after Joseph Smith allegedly received some golden tablets from an angel named Moroni.
Here’s the question I have, however, that I haven’t seen brought up by others. If you can accept that God is perfect and all knowing and that the King James Version of the bible is the true inspired Word of God, then why would God need to send an angel, whose name is not mentioned in the bible by the way, in order to change His Word and start a whole new religion through having Joseph Smith proclaim himself as a modern day profit, followed by his writing of the Book of Mormon. The answer is that God wouldn’t do this, because He got it right the first time.
What really stands out to me as well though is the fact that it is well documented Joseph Smith was a convicted felon of multiple offenses, including theft and attempted murder, who was practicing divination or the summoning of spirits using a spirit stone, when he received a visit from an "angel". And I would just note here too that such practices are condemned and forbidden by God in the bible. Furthermore, he was searching for gold when he was summoning a spirit, when he received his visitation and was given the "golden tablets". My point here is that Joseph Smith was not visited by an angel of God, but most likely by the very devil himself who gave Smith his "revelation", and that Smith is a false profit who started a false religion that is leading millions of people away from God and to eternal damnation in Hell, if they don't realize the truth and accept Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior.
But also, from other sources such as Jesus Truth’s channel, it’s reported that Mormons believe that God had a mother, that God has a wife on another planet who he has spirit babies with, that they (Mormons) themselves will become gods (small case g emphasized here, as there is only one God in Heaven) and be able to make spirit babies of their own for their own special planets if they live perfect lives, that Jesus and the devil were brothers, that special magical underwear is required to ward off evil doing, and that black people were originally white people who became cursed for siding with the devil and became black folks who were unworthy of temple worship or associating with. This of course is all blasphemous, heretical and absolutely unbiblical nonsense, none of which of course is volunteered by the Mormon missionaries when they're going around knocking on people's doors trying to gain new converts for the devil.
All I can ultimately do however is lean on the true Word of God, and in the end if someone cannot except that as true then there’s nothing more I can do but to pray for them. I feel that it’s my responsibility as a Christian to do what I can to witness to others though, so at least they will have heard the truth whether they choose to accept it or not.
But if you want to know that you’ll receive eternal salvation, just remember that 1 Corinthians 15 tells you that you will be saved if you believe that Jesus Christ died on the cross for all of our sins, was buried, and that He rose again on the third day and ascended into heaven where He sits on the right hand of God the Father Almighty. A sinner’s prayer would include a believer professing all of this, but also should include repentance and the asking of forgiveness for all of your sins (Mathew 4:17). Once you’ve done this, by professing your faith, believing in the gospel and repenting of your sins, then the bible says that you will be saved and that you WILL go to Heaven!!! Just remember though that Mary can’t save you, Allah can’t save you, Buddha can’t save you, and Joseph Smith can’t save you… Only Yeshua Hamashiach, Jesus Christ, our Lord and Savior can save you; as Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to mankind by which we must be saved. (Acts 4:12) peacewithgod.net/
Once you’ve done this, by professing your faith, believing in the gospel and repenting of your sins, then the bible says that you will be saved. Sadly though, for those who refuse to accept this free gift offered through accepting Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior, they face eternity in outer darkness, separated from the true Love of God forever. Hopefully, you will see the truth and accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior, and turn away from the false teachings of the Mormon Church which is doing nothing but leading its followers into eternal damnation.
What Must I do to be Saved: ua-cam.com/video/9CppqsPjlRo/v-deo.html
Billy Graham on Jesus Christ and Salvation: ua-cam.com/video/tgZEGkWGLPg/v-deo.html
Salvation through Jesus Christ Alone, as there is No Other Name Under Heaven… ua-cam.com/video/TxW0Sgw-BtY/v-deo.html
I'm also attaching a couple of really good videos below from pastor Jeff Durbin, wherein he explains the falsehoods of the Mormon beliefs better than I can here, and I really hope you will take the time to watch them. I hope you make the right choice and flee this false religion too, and I would recommend joining a good Church of God or Baptist church in your area too if you listened to what I've said here. Here's the links, and God bless!
ua-cam.com/video/JY2QzkyFMoY/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/_IVIehtmxLI/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/O0Jel8zWnOI/v-deo.html
As well as these:
Mormonism Exposed: ua-cam.com/video/TIkkGsxAjMc/v-deo.html
13 Reasons Why Mormonism is a False Religion: ua-cam.com/video/moN61zjBHvE/v-deo.html
7 False Prophecies From Joseph Smith: ua-cam.com/video/X2e4WSjx1pA/v-deo.html
Mormon Forefathers Were Blasphemers: ua-cam.com/video/l1rkoNiws_0/v-deo.html
Testimony of an Ex-Mormon: ua-cam.com/video/j2I9LpDF708/v-deo.html
Hidden Truths Behind Mormonism: ua-cam.com/video/a1BLR4rufYA/v-deo.html
9 Facts that the Mormon Church Doesn’t Want you to Know: ua-cam.com/video/qwLviskWpyY/v-deo.html
The Mormon Flowchart for Your Soul: jesusisthetruth.com/Mormonism_Explained.html
Dr. Ron Rhodes on the Differences between Mormonism and Biblical Christianity: ua-cam.com/video/lZ-PweMqhGM/v-deo.html
Dr. Ron Rhodes on an Overview of Cults: ua-cam.com/video/Ji2U3CWvsWU/v-deo.html
Dr. Ron Rhodes on 10 Keys to Answering Cultists at Your Door: ua-cam.com/video/hv-o_dq5uek/v-deo.html
Dr. David Reagan on the Deception of the Cults: christinprophecy.org/articles/the-deception-of-the-cults/
Dr. David Reagan on The Danger of False Prophets: christinprophecy.org/articles/the-danger-of-false-prophets/
Dr. David Reagan on Joseph Smith, the Ego-Maniacal False Prophet: christinprophecy.org/articles/joseph-smith/
Dr. David Reagan on the Tangled Web of Mormonism: christinprophecy.org/articles/the-tangled-web-of-mormonism/
Lastly, at the very least I would ask that you please just pray about all of this if you want to know the truth, and I have no doubt that the Holy Spirit will show you the truth and leave you with no doubt about everything I’ve said here.
May the peace of Christ be with you!
Matthew 7:15 - Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
1 John 4:1 - Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
2 Corinthians 11:13-15 - 13 For such [are] false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.15 Therefore [it is] no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.
Salvation Verses:
Romans 10:9 - That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
John 3:16 - For God so loved the world, that He gave His one and only Son, that whosoever believes in Him should not perish, but have eternal life.
John 3:36 - He who believes in the Son has eternal life, but he who does not obey the Son will not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him.
I have read it more than once, but it's very evident that you have not based on what you've said here. I would highly recommend that you check out some of Jeff Durbin's videos on youtube where he's talking to groups of Mormons, as you're following a false religion, which was started by a false prophet who received his "revelation" from the devil. He makes some very good arguments while discussing the true gospel from the King James Holy Bible, and clearly shows why Mormonism is completely wrong and false. Time is short as Jesus is coming back soon, and now is the time to turn from the lies you've been taught in the heretical and blasphemous Mormon church.
Also, the original message I intended to post got cut off, so here it is in it's entirety:
I just want to point out that I accept the King James Version of the Bible as the absolute truth and inspired Word of God, and I understand the Mormon Church uses this version of the bible as well.
Where things go astray however, is while the bible was written before and shortly after the death of Christ, and again was accepted by the Church as the true and inspired Word of God, the subsequent book of Mormon wasn’t written until the 1800’s, after Joseph Smith allegedly received some golden tablets from an angel named Moroni.
Here’s the question I have that I haven’t seen brought up by others though. If you can accept that God is perfect and all knowing and that the King James Version of the bible is the true inspired Word of God, then why would God need to send an angel, whose name is not mentioned in the bible by the way, in order to change His Word and start a whole new religion through having Joseph Smith proclaim himself as a modern day profit, followed by his writing of the Book of Mormon. The answer is that God wouldn’t do this, because He got it right the first time.
Furthermore, it is well documented that Joseph Smith was a convicted felon of multiple offenses, including theft and attempted murder, who was practicing divination or the summoning of spirits using a spirit stone, when he received a visit from an "angel". And I would just note here too that such practices are condemned and forbidden by God in the bible. Furthermore, he was searching for gold when he was summoning a spirit when he received his visitation and was given the "golden tablets". My point here is that Joseph Smith was not visited by an angel of God, but most likely by the very devil himself who gave Smith his "revelation", and that Smith is a false profit who started a false religion that is leading millions of people away from God if they don't realize the truth and accept Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior.
Furthermore, Mormons believe that God had a mother, that God has a wife on another planet who he has spirit babies with, that they (Mormons) themselves will become gods and be able to make spirit babies of their own for their own special planets if they live perfect lives, that Jesus and the devil were brothers, that Jesus was really the archangel Michael but became Jesus when he was here on earth but returned to being Michael when he returned to heaven, that special magical underwear is required to ward off evil doing, and that black people were originally white people who became cursed for siding with the devil and became black folks who were unworthy of temple worship or associating with. This of course is all blasphemous, heretical and absolutely unbiblical nonsense, none of which of course is volunteered by the Mormon missionaries when they're going around knocking on people's doors trying to gain new converts for the devil.
All I can ultimately do however is lean on the true Word of God, and in the end if someone cannot except that as true then there’s nothing more I can do but to pray for them. I feel that it’s my responsibility as a Christian to do what I can to witness to others though, so at least they will have heard the truth whether they choose to accept it or not.
I will tell you too that the true Gospel of Christ is explained in 1 Corinthians 15, which tells you that you will be saved if you believe that Christ died on the cross for our sins, was buried, and that he rose again on the third day and ascended into heaven where He sits on the right hand of God the Father Almighty. A sinner’s prayer would include a believer professing all of this, but also should include repentance and the asking of forgiveness for all of your sins.
Once you’ve done this, by professing your faith, believing in the gospel and repenting of your sins, then the bible says that you will be saved. Sadly though, for those who refuse to accept this free gift offered through accepting Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior, they face eternity in outer darkness, separated from the true Love of God forever. Hopefully, you will see the truth and accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior, and turn away from the false teachings of the Mormon Church which is doing nothing but leading its followers into eternal damnation.
Lastly, at the very least I would ask that you please just pray about all of this if you want to know the truth, and I have no doubt that the Holy Spirit will show you the truth and leave you with no doubt about everything I’ve said here.
May the peace of Christ be with you!
Matthew 7:15 - Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
1 John 4:1 - Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
2 Corinthians 11:13-15 - 13 For such [are] false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.15 Therefore [it is] no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.
Salvation Verses:
Romans 10:9 - That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
John 3:16 - For God so loved the world, that He gave His one and only Son, that whosoever believes in Him should not perish, but have eternal life.
John 3:36 - He who believes in the Son has eternal life, but he who does not obey the Son will not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him.
My Dear, Do you believe that Heavenly Father loves you less than ancient peoples? It is important to understand that you came from royal lineage and are as important as anyone ever born, no matter what century. Just as you keep a journal for your posterity, ancient peoples here did the same. We all have something to teach our children and grandchildren. WE ARE THEIR GRANDCHILDREN! Our families in the Book of Mormon are teaching us. The devil is very cunning. He knows our weaknesses. He can see our strengths. He knows you can be a force for good. As you fall to your knees tonight ask Heavenly Father what your mission in life is, is it really to tear another’s beliefs apart? Contention, created loving in guidance or not, is still contention and contention is of the devil. Allowing the Light of Christ to guide you can be overwhelming at times if we are not prepared to listen and change. We came to this Earth to be tried and tested. We were not sent here to judge others, only love them. We can quote scripture all day, but that will not draw us closer to our Savior. I pray you find the light you are seeking, instead of trying to rob another’s. It’s a waste of previous time and energy, when we could be spend our time changing into what God intended for us to become while in this earthly state. I love you.
Satan was an Angel it says he was called the Son of the morning in the scriptures and that he was cast down, so he very well could have been the spiritual brother of Jesus. Also a God that shares his glory is much more believeable than one that hoards his power and glory to have all for his self. I would much more believe in one that creates and fosters his sons and daughters than having one let you sit in a cloud and play a harp.
You do not have your comments right. Better do your homework before stating what a religion does and doesnt believe!!!!
Do you have a working map? If so where can I get one?
Carbon dating and DNA disproves everything you are trying to make work.
I'm fully in agreement with your first half explanation of where the main Nephite settlements were likely to have been as there is much evidence which overlaps with Hopewell cultural places and timeliness. I find the far west stories less likely. Despite the fact that Brigham Young mentioned several things which you quoted, I cannot imagine the Gadianton robbers and others like Moroni being that far west and then still coming to Western NY at a later date.
It freaking is amazing wow history has been distorted so terribly and for what end. The deception will fail.
I've always wanted to know why the LDS church doesn't use the inspired version of the bible? Puzzling since Joseph Smith was reported to have translated it.
because it was an ongoing project that he never finished- not a complete translation, but often referred to.
@@mikeparker2520 it was finished, I own a copy, and it reads amazingly. As I have found out. Brigham Young tries to steal the manuscript from Emma Smith, and when he couldn't get ahold of it. He directed those that left the original church and went with him to Utah not to use it.
Never happened. End the debate, dig up Hill Cumorah.
They have dug it up....they found nothing.
Evil people seek signs
Did happen, go ahead and dig it up :-)
How have they dug it up when is still there... as a big hill
The greeting of American Indians “how” outing an arm to the square.! And “bury your hatchet”!as a means of forgiveness or ending a fight. Is also very telling!
IMHO it took place in Joseph'$ Myth's imagination.
Richard Pecjak I’m a firm believer that Joe ate shrooms. It makes the most sense, or DMT.
Rick McGhee Or you could read the book and see that your assumption is totally off. It is a complicated book of quality literature, where the writing habits of each author differs in style. Drugs could never produce it.
riingram have you read the book? The 1830 version? Brother, that book is a made up book. I served in the church Bishopric for 5 years. That whole time, I knew nothing about Joseph Smith marrying 14 year olds, sending men on missions to marry their wives, or “translating” with a rock in a hat. Shot and killed two people, burned down a printing press that his second counselor was exposing his polygamy. His use of the Jupiter talisman, his love for Captain Kidd, who lived on the island of Cumorah in the capital city of Moroni. You have to evaluate the character of Joseph Smith. He was arrested and convicted of glass looking (stealing people’s money for his alleged ability to find gold with his seer stone. His direct addition of the KJV bible with errors was plagiarized. He also added complete sentences from Marco Polo, The Last War, View of the Hebrews. He said he was better than Jesus Christ. He preached that people lived on the moon. He gave numerous false prophecies. There is ZERO proof of the Book of Mormon archeology. Zero! He happened upon bones that he said was Zelph. His translation of The Book of Abraham is completely false. He DID not even adhere to the 10 commandment. He murdered, committed adultery, he covenanted his neighborhoods wives, he lied, he stole, he used the lords name in vain. He did, however, love his neighbors, like loved them sexually. You must criticize his character The Book of Mormon is not true You are under mind control, like I was for 48 years. It’s not easy to leave the church. But they were wrong on blacks, and they are wrong on gays. They make women inferior to men. The “priesthood” was never a real thing. He had several versions of the First Vision. Research the BITE model, Steve Hassan. The luciferian LDS is completely wrong. They have Satanic symbols, they perform works for the dead, which is not-biblical at all. I’m trying not to be disrespectfully, but your off the cuff suggestion, that I read the book, is a typical Mormon response. Mormons are the most judgmental group of people I have ever been a part of.
Rick McGhee I'm sorry you felt disillusioned. I was just released from a Bishopric as well. I've read the book many times in 2 languages. It is impossible for it to be made up. It adheres to too much history accurately. As for Joseph Smith, there is very little evidence about who he married and weather he had sexual relationships with them. Obviously he didn't have very many sexual relationships with them because there is no offspring to back that theory up. I personally don't doubt that he had sex with at least a few of his wives (even though there is zero evidence). But it doesn't bother me just as it doesn't bother me that Abraham had many wives with which he had children. I'm just glad that it is not around anymore. As for the 14 year old Daughter of Heber C. Kimball, Helen Mar Kimball, she went to her grave testifying that she and the Prophet never consumated a marriage. Fanny Alger was also young, but again there are no writings where she states that they had sex. Most of these marital situations were Temple sealings only with temple blessings promised. Having studied a lot of this history, I believe that there was a misunderstanding of how Temple sealings worked.
riingram brother, why would a grown man marry a 14 year old. Doesn’t that bother you. The article of faith, states, that we will obey the laws of the land, and subjected to them. He didn’t. Polygamy was never legal. He attempted to make his own currency (treasonous). Doesn’t it bother you that we were told how he translated the plates, then the church comes clean with the truth (rock in a hat). They still teach it in primary that he was physically looking at the plates. The book my friend, is totally fabricated. Have you read anything of Swedenborg’s. How is it that the true church as been modified over time to conform to cultural events. People living on the moon and they dress like quakers who also live for a 1000 years. I applaud you for your civil debate. I hope that I’m not coming off abrasive. Take care. Love you brother.
Ever hear of Moundsville, WV? I'm from Morgantown, about 2 hrs away. Check it out.
1st Nephi chapter 1:
Nephi when in Jerusalem escaped with his family to the Red Sea 250 miles, away by foot and in 600BC. Once they arrived his dad remembered his birth records were back in Jerusalem. So Nephi walks back 250 miles, kills a dude, gets birth records and walks back to the Red Sea 250 miles. His family so happy they got the records. No one was surprise this feat was actually accomplished. Then his dad remembered there would be no women in the new world for his sons to get freaky with. So they walk back to Jerusalem "250 miles" to look for chicks. They find chicks but these chicks had parents so Nephi, his two brothers, three chicks with their old parents walked back to the Red Sea "250 miles away", through the Arabian desert with no water and wearing flip flops. These are Super Jews who could have just walked to freedom.
shawn mcaraphy awesome
Rick McGhee Are Mormons Jesus' faithful? Jesus said His faithful would suffer persecution. The only persecution Mormons have suffered in 200 years is laughter. Christians were massacred and still are to this day. I seriously doubt Jesus was talking about the Mormons.
"THEY'RE ALL GOING TO LAUGH AT YOU"!
shawn mcaraphy That would be ignoring the mobs that drove them out west, the two Mormon wars and the Missouri extermination order. Mormons were persecuted in the last 200 years years.
Can you name a time when Christianity was persecuted in the last 200 years? And no, ISIS does not count unless you concede that Mormons are also being persecuted by them.
Steggoraptor are you serious? Have you researched this occult. They weren’t driven out because they studied their own scriptures. It’s because they tried to subvert the constitution and polygamy; which was totally against the US law. Meadow Mountain Massacre. Look up The Kirkland Society.
Steggoraptor Compared to the thousands of Christians who were fed to the lions and burnt at the stake is hardly a comparison. Mormons laughed at while Christians died by the thousands. I doubt Jesus was talking about the Mormons.
In reading in the Book of Mormon it talks of hurricanes in Nephi which is is more prone to happen in the Florida area where they think Lehi landed.
Interesting! But Nephi wrote about they built many cement buildings. Where are that kind of structures?
I have been reading the book of Mormon God bless you in Jesus name 🎉🎉🎉🎉
Thanks ,love all this💙❤💚💛🧡💜
Awesome vids and research. I am glad you are outside of the academic establishment, breathing the air of freedom and truth, and can share this evidence that the establishment covers up!!! I am glad you can share the evidence to the world on youtube!
This is the best ASMR video I've seen. 😴👍
Nicely researched and quite compelling. Thank you!
Are there any mounds near or west of the ROCKYS ?
Back when we lived in Veyo Utah, mid 70s. The newspaper in St. George every week would reprint an newspaper article that had been printed on that day a 100 years before in St. George. One was a story about the person who was in charge of the lumber mill in Pine Valley that milled lumber I believe for the Salt Lake Tabernacle. This individual came to the Prophet Brigam Young who was in St. George at that time and told Brigham that things at the mill were disappearing and it was a
problem. Brigham told him to move the mill to a new location.
Because it had been built on a mass burial location of Gadianton robbers and it was the spirits of the same causing the problems. He reported back sometime later and said the problem was taken care of. And that things were well with the new location.
Before Joseph Smith claimed to be a prophet, was high known as a man of truth or did he lie a lot? Is there any documentation on this?
Mormons are beginning to wake up and leave the LDS cult in droves, thank God!
Michael P: First of all great job on all your videos, I have watched all 6 of them so far. Is #7 coming up anytime soon ? Secondly, I can see that you subscribe to the theory that the BofM took place in North America v.s. the other school of thought that claims it happened in Mesoamerica. I'm trying to be neutral and study both schools of thoughts before I make my own conclusions. Now, I was wondering if you could help me with this: So based on archeological findings as well as what the BofM tells us, the Nephites went extinct around 421 A.D. My question is: Have any archeological findings been made after that date ? Meaning, did the Lamanites leave any evidence of their existence after 421 A.D ? I read somewhere that there is a gap archaelogically speaking between 421 A.D and 900 A.D. and what was found after 900 A.D. is not necessarily BofM related. Any ideas or help with this ?
This is an excellent video!
brilliant video! 5 years ago.. man i'm late for the party!
Absolutely awesome!!
This is excellent! Thank you.
The Book of Mormon never mentions the plains of the Nephites. But it does mention Nephites that sailed north looking for a new place to live. Perhaps Moroni, now an enemy in his own land, went looking for them. He never indicates where he intends to bury the Book of Mormon. I think it is just an assumption from a poor reading of the Book of Mormon that Moroni buried the record in the Hill Cumorah. The book itself never makes that claim.
Regarding the Zarahemla name around 13:50, Since Jerusalem is still existing, the "New" title is necessary. But, since Zarahemla is extinct, there's no need for a "New" in it. I feel like the Lord did not include "New" due to *that* rather because it is the same exact place.
That said, it could still very well be that it's (more or less) the same spot, no one knows.
The only possible answer is south america based on the description of the weapons and metalergy used...
Both central and South America. Nephites landed first in Chile, South America then they ended up in central America.
Do have to point out that the place where Joseph took out the plates wasn't necessarily the hill cummorah. Members at the time called it that and Joseph Smith made reference to it as hill commorah years later possibly going along with the nickname of the hill but there's no good evidence that it is the hill cummorah spoken of in the Book of Mormon.
A large part of southern Missouri used to be a sea
Yes! The Kaw tribe talk about how long ago, the lower Mississippi river actually used to be a massive inlet of the Gulf of Mexico, but a massive earthquake happened that raised up the land enough for the inlet to drain and be reduced to what is now the lower Mississippi river. And because of the New Madrid quake of 1811-1812, we know that massive earthquakes happen along the New Madrid fault line every few hundred years that shake the entire eastern half of the U.S. and alter its landscape.
@@MichaelP_IsMe there are also a LOT of fossilized sea creatures in the limestone, which is quite abundant in the area. I used to love pretending I was an archaeologist when I was a kid haha.
If the Book of Mormon took place at all you would not be wondering where it took place. Do you have to wonder where the Roman Empire took place? No. You go visit the sites.
Can you explain the narrow neck of land and why Mormon chose that for a strategic point to defend the North from the Lamanites in the South and where it is in North America?
I think it would be interesting to note which ancient cities were not destroyed/changed during the time of Christ’s death.
In Alma 63:5-8, it talks about ships sailing in the west sea by a narrow neck of land that led into the land northward. What area would this be? In these verses it states that the ships were built by the borders of the land Bountiful and by the land desolation.
The Great Lakes.
The importance of a "NewJerusalem" is it is the site of government. There can be various new Jerusalems whatever the capitol city is named. For example Salt Lake City was the seat of government for The State of Deseret. Salt Lake City sat by a dead salt sea with a new Sea of Gallilee located in Provo, Utah. The waters of Utah Lake (the New Gallilee)in Provo ran via the now named Jordan River into the dead salt sea. Salt lake City should have been called New Jerusalem but the religions of the day would not have allowed that designation. Still, what an amazing parallel is Utah to the land of Israel of the Bible.
The final "New Jerusalem" will eventually rule the world after Jesus comes in the clouds of heaven. For Jesus is the King of all men whether they know it or not.
Oh I live in St. Louis, oh and I know prior to it being called St. Louis it was actually called mount city, downtown St. Louis was hundreds and hundreds of Indian mounds the entire city and they were leveled by bulldozer only one remains, on the Illinois side there is the ancient site of Cahokia where a lot of the Indian mounts still remain, my questions to you do you have any insight on any of this tying it with the book of Mormon, I would love to see anything that you have, thank you for what you do!
I appreciate you
The simple answer is "no" he doesn't have anything that ties it to the BoM.