Sir I’ve been searching for a video like this for years. This is exactly what I have been trying to do for our father son and neighbor band. Only bad thing is now I have to invest more money that I don’t really have to buy more gear. Thank you so much for your video!!!
I thoroughly enjoyed watching this video, I am finding it 3 years later and am just now starting set up a band home studio and this was just what I needed and I really like the drawings of what is needed and where things go. Simple but super informative, thank you guys so much for this!
Hey! So super nice to hear the video works! The drawing was the very last thing I came up with for this video. It really felt like the only way to make things easily understandable.
Thank you. I.a. product reviews but in a practical "real-time-use" way which is great. There is always something new to see/learn while there are nice and competent people out there. Always equally impressive how some have the lust and will to share their experiences with others. Especially in this clear and descriptive manner.
This is exactly what I needed! I build a rehearsal space and thinking about to provide rehearsal recordings for bands, but i don't want to step inside recording stuff to deep, just basic stuff for basic purposes. This video helps me so much, thank you Mika!
Oh wow! Where was I two years ago?... I know, not recording!!! Loved this video Mika, you are one of my favorite persons that I don't know personally. Thank you so much!
Thank you! So good to hear this video is inspiring. All our latest music is recorded like this. except we upgraded from Zoom to Soundcraft two years ago.
Excellent! So glad to hear! For a fun jam with Mr. Fastfinger check our lastest video ”Dorian Blast”. It’s based on one of the GuitarShredShow mode jams.
@@witty188 🖐You wouldn’t be a first one 😀if you want, you can book online lesson and we discuss your case. you can start by sending me message with the conract form at mikafastfinger.sellfy.store/music/
Just stumbled here looking for advice on setting up a way to record at rehearsal simply and got a bonus beginners language course on words I can actually use when talking to other musicians!? Liked and subscribed just for that! Keep it up, loved the vid. Great sound btw!
@@MikaFastfinger Tons of useful information on the video, and very well explained. It really makes me sad how youtube manage video promotion, this should be on the front page of all your youtube members... Lasse is the man! what an awesome music trio.
Yes, this is surprisingly the most popular video of the last few years. It was a lot of challenge to put it together so I'm most happy it's has been spreading. Thanks! Wax on!
Thank you for the L-12 Mixer, and all the lessons on my Phone ☎️. Playing with a new Blue’s Song for about 3 years. I have been playing since 1959 in Brooklyn NY. Now I need to put all my words to music. Doc Magoo
What a great overview! I'm in the process of making a long video about how to shoot video and record audio (full separate tracks through a digital interface/mixer) for your own band live for a full show, so I've been checking out some similar videos. I loved the way you put this together - great detailed information and very funny as well! I subscribed.
Thank you! This was a bit complex video to put together. I usually improvise all my videos, but here I had to plan some. I was a bit lost with the video until I came up with the idea of drawing the diagrams. That glued things together. Wishing you best with your own video!
@@MikaFastfinger You're welcome! I can see how the planning would help. I'm in the script stages of mine. We're a 90s/2000s rock cover band from New Jersey in the U.S. called Later Skater. My goal with the audio is to always make it sound live - but the best live sound that I can get. Too little reverb/room audio from the cameras make it sound like we're lip syncing. www.youtube.com/@laterskater-90salternative62
You can't understand how this helped alot. You just saved me a lot of money, this is going to help me improve my live recordings. I love you man! Thank you 👋🎊
Most happy to hear this video is found helpful! This method, altough slightly upgraded, has helped us capture all the music for our last two albums and nore. Wax on!!!
thank you, great video. We have just installed a similar setup in our rehearsal room with singer, guitar, bass and drums and a Zoom L-20. But our guitar player wants his Marshall cab to be mic‘ed, so we get a lot of noise bleed in the voice & guitar mics. We haven‘t converted to IEM, so the bass amp produces additional „noise“. Great idea to have backing track mixed with the metronome click, will try that. Rock on🤘
thank you so much for sharing knowledge and experience in such amusing, enjoyable way! amount of work in it is just unbelievable! and please more language lessons)
Very happy how it sounds too 🙏🔥Check the tune Palma Driver and it’s slap bass outro in this video, it’s worth a listen 😎 Hills and Mountains - Rehearsal room live - Mr. Fastfinger Trio
Hey Kevin, thank you. Noticed you commenting other band videos too. They are all recorded similar way as shown here. A bit more drum mics (+room mics) added. And we upgraded our mixer too to a Soundcraft. But still very mich DIY 😀🖐
Thanks for pointing this out! I think chapters weren't a feature on YT yet when I released this and I had not even realized they were missing here. I just added them. 🖐
Nice video! I enjoyed watching it and it was an entertaining insight to your overseas workflow and ultimately, great listening to the end result. Thanks 🙏 You have a new sub.
Excellent! Thanks you, happy to hear you enjoyed the end results also! btw. The latest live band videos on my channel were captured and done similar way, but we upgraded to Soundcraft Ui24R.
@@MikaFastfinger I'm highly considering buying one of those. My friend has the L8 and was impressed with how you utilised the L12. Also considering the Mackie DL16S as I've had the DL1608 in the past for 10 years and that was super reliable although no ISB Multitrack. Behringer X32 rack is another contender Its really between a X32 rack and UI24R.
Great insights. Please ask the drummer to share his kick drum tuning method. I just got a 18 inch kick. I like his sound. What drumheads is he using on the kick? Is their internal muffling?
Everything sounds just great! But why pan the guitar to the left if evereything else is in the right place? I get that you are in the left end of the video but it tends to not let the stereo guitar fx's stand for what it's supposed to be, at the end of the day you're the lead part of the band, right? Video and audio just amazing, thanks for your amazing work and keep it rolling! I totally respect this moment...
Heh, somekind of fixation i guess. I hate having everything in the center. Maybe too much listening to Van Halen records too ;) But it’s a good question and worth thinking if that’s the way in future!
@@MikaFastfinger lol yes, I figured that. :) I was wondering more about - does the Zoom Livetrak have enough inputs for your scenario with a singer? And do you process his vocals through the mixer at all or just wait till editing at the daw? Things like that. ;)
Scott Whitlow haha, yeah! Well, zoom processing is quite limited. As are the inputs. Few months ago we swapped this mixer to Soundcraft Ui24r, it’s on a complitely different level. Highly recommend if you have some skills and interest in mixing. it takes bit more to learn how to use it but atleast for us it’s been a major level up. you can really have a fine tuned ready mix (or headphonemix) with it. each channel with full strip and 4 fx processors.
Hi, this video is amazing, and your band too. The only thing i didn't understand is how you connected the overheads and toms mics on the drum. Have you used some pre-amp or di box for merge the 2 signals and use less inputs in the mixer?
Thank you, glad you found the video! I’ve got a extra (secret) pair of mic pre’s to add more mic inputs. can’t remember, i might have had it the other way during the days we shot this video but basically this is the way we track. 1. gtr, 2. bass 3. kick 4. snare 5. tom hi 6. tom lo 7. backing track mono audio 8. backing track click 9/10 over head LR stereo (using the external lowbudget ART mic pres inside the rack 11/12 Lexicon reverb/delay ambience for our monitoring). That’s it!
Great video, I am having trouble with SD card. I record in L-8 or sometimes H4n and then take it to my PC and it sometimes wants me to format which will of course erase all the tracks, any help with this would be great. Or maybe I just need to put the SD card in the H4n and then plug it into my PC with the USB. Any advice would help. This is a bummer.
That’s an issue I mever had with Zoom / SD card. When this happens, did you try the card in other PCs or Mac? Did you use tge same card in both zoom devices? Maybe that messes up something. I moved to Soundcraft mixer a few years ago, I’m not an Zoom expert really, hope you find a fix to this annoying problem. 🖐
Hello! On monitoring inputs going from interface, to PC (DAW), to Monitors (Headphone, PA, Studio Monitors), is there a latency going to the monitors when you use Livetrak? I am planning to get the L-20 version of Livetrak and I am kinda afraid that there might be latency when we're recording. I wish to know if it's going to do well.
I have no experince using this as an interface. We moved to using Soundcraft Ui24r, which is waaaay more advanced mixer than this. it works as an interface also. nut sure if it fits your needs but be sure to check info about it as an alternative.
Cool video I keep coming back to it, and great band you got!. I have the Zoom L-8 and my 2 band projects use it in my garage. I wonder about using D.I. to record. We have not gotten great results on the guitar and bass sound.I mean its not horrible but I can hear its D.I. even when I add speaker and or amp to it in Post. I wonder if we need the D.I. box that has speaker emulation like you have or just a simple D.I. I noticed the D.I. you use is like 7000kc. I might get it in the future but just wondering if I can get good sound for cheaper. So basically I am wondering how to get good sound recording D.I. from bass and guitar amps via the Zoom L-8. Thanks!
Hey, thanks. Sp great to hear the video still works. hmmm. I find it hard to help with this little info: not hearing the results. If you get a clean strong D.I. signal captured the problem can be with you post processing? Have you tried different Amp plugins? I personally don’t like recording pure clean DI of guitar. I rather have the amp and cabinet simulation there (still using Cab M by Two Notes) before going to mixer. With bass tones I never liked having cabinets, i only use amp part of the plugins. If you have trouble w pure DI tones and post prpcessing, rather fix the of Bass and Guitar as ready as possible before you connect em to the mixer. Best of luck and fun!
The SuperFunAwesomeHappyTime Pedal Show! Oh yeah, the language lessons 😅 That a last minute idea i got while driving to the rehearsal place to do all the video shootings 😎 I’m doing good thank you, hope all is well with you! Wax on!
Hey Mika, this has been great for me to learn how to use my L20 for our five-piece band. Just wondering how exactly you patch in the Lexicon effects unit to your monitor/headphone mixes. Do you run the signal to and from the Lexicon via one of your stereo channels then just turn up this input in the sends from the channel strips to the individual headphone mixes? Many thanks. Have bought both Tremors and Mountain tones on my iTunes ...love them they are great!
Hey there! We moved to Soundcraft Ui24 over 3 years ago so I had to try to remember our old setup with L12. We are 3 piece so I had to extra monitor oitputs free. I used those as aux sends for a) reverb b) delay. Lexicon has a dual fx mode so that made this possible. Lexicon signal was simply hooked to one of the stereo channels of L12. so the fx were mixed to our monitor mixes as any other instruments. Hope this helps! Thank you so much for your support! More music coming out soon… Wax on, Mika
Thank you for the great video! One thing that I don't fully understand though is how you connect the tom mics to the mixer. It looks like you are running the mics through separate pre-amps and from there into the stereo channels of the mixer. Do you have two pre-amps that have stereo outputs that you connect to two separate stereo channels? And if so, why aren't you using the two pre-amp slots that are still available in the mixer? I hope you know what I mean :) Cheers man.
Hey, thanks! The way i connected Toms to the mixer. Well, I didn’t mention why i did it like this because i thought it would just confuse a lot of people. Tried to keep the video somehow straight forward. But since you asked 😀 First of all the mono backing and click track took the last 2 mono mic channels of the mixer, we wanted to be able to adjust the levels and panning of these channels to our headphone monitors. Hearing click hard left and backing hard right would not work. So, the Toms mics were connected to two separate mic pre amps (could have been a 2 channel mic pre too) then those were connected to one of the stereo input we still had free. I decided to connect the toms like this because we didn’t have to monitor these tracks when playing but I still was able to capture the toms on on separate tracks. Not sure if this expanation can be followed. Anyways we already moved on to using Soundcraft Ui24r mixer so we don’t need to do such magic tricks anynore. After setting the new system, life is easier and sound is way much better! 👍 Cheers!
Great video man :) I'm just wondering, do you play always with headphones at rehearsals? Never got the real sound? (exept for the drums) If you do a life recording of a gig for example how do you deal with all the sounds the microphones are picking up? Any ideas how to achieve good gig recordings, we play with the same ammount of drum mic's plus 2 mic's for guitar amps plus 2 vocal mic's. thats 12 mics and everyone of them picks up (more or less) the sound of the whole band.
We’ve played at rehearsals with headphones on for the last 2 or 3 years. This suits our music well. I don’t miss the times when we rehearsed with amps and i had to wear ear plugs. it was hard to hear the details. Live, sure there’s leaking with all the amps aloud, but i never found it to be that hard to cope with it. On our case only drums will have that problem and mainly overhead mics. Live I’d still use my cabinet simulation box to record, monitor and to give the front of house live engineer a great guitar tone.
@@MikaFastfinger Until now I was using 2 Inexpensive SM57 copies from Thommann for Overheads, Another one for the Snare and a 58 for the kick. I used the snare and kick signal to trigger Superior Drummer and mixed those in to balance snap. Then took the overhead signal into 4 separate channels for the stereo signal. 2 for cymbals in which i used eq to cut off any freqs below 500 to prevent too much toms bleed. The other two I cut eh audio and leave only the parts where the toms are playing and eq and compress to keep most of the drum characteristics. It's a lot of work, but it yields a very nice "Live" sound. We are now about to buy a set of drum mics as we will be able to work with 16 channels. Until now we had only 8 channels to work with and as all of our material is free form live improvisation we don't like to add overdubs so everything has to be recorded in the moment. Our bass player uses 3 channels already. XD
Thank a lot for this video! Based on this Im getting the gear to do the same set up with my band. One question, Do you always need the DI and the Virtual Cabinet? What if I have a guitar and a bass combo, can I plug them directly to the "Zoom Livetrak-12"? Thanks!
Francisco Javier Araya The Two Notes virtual cabinet is there for a great sounding simulation of miced cabinet. You can mic or use the direct out of your combo for sure. and if you get a sound that you like, it works!
Moi, voinko kytkeä basson suoraan pedaalista mixeriin eli mikä on DI boksin tarkoitus? Tarkoitus ruveta äänittelemään tässä treenejä ja vähän tutkiskelen tätä varten. Hyvä video!
Moi! Basson voi kytkeä mikserin instrumentti sisääntuloon. normaaleihin XLR ja Linja kanaviin basson signaali pitää muuntaa sopivaksi DI boksilla. DI on monesti näppärä esim keikkakäytössä ja sillä voi myös jakaa signaalin kahteen ulostuloon. Laadukas DI myös voi soundata paremmalta kuin mikserin instrumentti input. Basson haasteena on valtava dynamiikka, erityisesti atakissa jos ei ole mitään kompressori tai limitteri -pedaaleja välissä. No ainakin haasteita ilmaantuu kun Släpätään 😀 Kiitos!
so nice and useful... just a question, I don't know if I got it wrong, but first did you record in stereo?... how did you separate the difference instruments to treat them separately ?... thx so much
@@MikaFastfinger oh ok... but you didn't record each channel straight onto the DAW, right?... you recorded them separately onto your Sd card and then dragged them onto your DAW... is that right? thx so much
@Alex FR that’s right. Zoom recorded multitrack audio files to SDcard. And then later i imported those tracks to DAW and did the final mix for the video.
A year or so after this video shooting, we swapped this Zoom to Soundcraft Ui24r and that machine gives us a way greater mix for in-ears. But obviously I still do separate mixes of any recordings that are used in our albums or videos.
i really like the video, I have one question, from mixer to SD card how did you transfer it to PC Studio Software became Track by Track files??? mine is Wave file after I recorded it , cannot be track by track when I transfer it to my PC studio software??? I hope you can answer me... thanks for your tutorial it helps a lot
i’m not quite sure what you mean. on the SD card there’s folder where every recording can be found as separate numbered wav tracks. Then i just move and place the wav files to Cubase on separate tracks. Are you using the same Zoom L-12 mixer?
hi guys I have a few questions.. First, I live in a townhouse so my band does silent rehearsals with everything going direct to an analog mixer and from there usb out to my laptop using NCH mixpad. All our recordings always sound very flat and raw so I am guessing that is because of no room volume. I’m trying to figure out how to get more color or ambiance to the recordings. Two, Right now my usb output is only a stereo signal so I am not able to multitrack our rehearsals and wanted to see if there is a way to achieve that without purchasing expensive equipment. Thank you! Chuck
Our experience is that with headphone rehearsals ambience is higly important. Without it the mix balance feels always off. Get yourself some kind of Fx device, a second hand rack unit that does some ambience / room. You will not regret this, it will make your headphone jam feel and sound more like you play in a room or a venue. Cheap late ’90’s Lexicon, like the one we use here cost almost nothing. With your current stereo recordings, atleast what you can do now is add some ambience/room fx in the mastering. add it before the compression/limitlng. This can definetly help the recordings sound more natural.
use any video editor software (premiere, final cut, davinci etc). you will see the original video camera audio on timeline,. place your new stereo mix on another track and make sure it’s in sync with the original camera audio. next mute the original audio. export the video with the new audio and you’re done!
Room treatment. I got some panels in my studio where i mix. and bass traps too. But the room is naturally so good it doesn’t need much anything. In the rehearsal room thomas has covered the roof with some ...stuff 😀
For this type of thing Zoom L-12 does an okay job. Simple to use, in our use it’s always been solid and worked well. Great easy thing for s small band to get started. we just upgraded to Soundcraft Ui24r, it has more inputs. (I wanted to have 3 guitar channels and we can now have room mics as well), it can do a very fine mix on it’s own: channel strips, 4 effects all the groups and advanced routing... but it’s a complitely different thing and more complicated to setup (initially). You need to be a bit of a sound engineer to get behind it. But what is best for you, i don’t know about you and your bands needs. And i don’t know that much about all the options out there. Hope you find one that suits you!
@@MikaFastfinger thankyou not sound engineers no just need something easy to record different music equipment from drums, guitars and singing. To do all this without having to keep paying out on things
Our whole new album was recorded like in this video. You need to hear this: ua-cam.com/video/rbdPoLk5tY0/v-deo.html (We swapped Zoom L-12 recorder to Soundcraft UI24r but otherwise the setup is still the same as on this video.)
The gear is realtively cheap these days and money can buy. The real step one should be: learn to play. That’s is somethibg you won’t be able yo buy and is most essential.
i know for drummers it changes the feel and all when there’s a hole. it’s also about the tone you’re after, if you want more round or jazzy tone what ever. For me, without the hole I always had to do magic tricks to get the bass drum sound the way this music needs it to sound.
Sir I’ve been searching for a video like this for years. This is exactly what I have been trying to do for our father son and neighbor band. Only bad thing is now I have to invest more money that I don’t really have to buy more gear.
Thank you so much for your video!!!
Beautiful music, great job with much respect and love from Memphis, Tn. and Mississippi!
All the way from Mississippi! So cool. Thank you. Have a great day!
This was informative, entertaining, funny and most importantly..AWESOME at the same time. Thanks for being you Mika!
I love the mini language lessons haha
@@SamBellGuitar Thank you very much Sam! You already watched this? It's good to know some finnish, you never know when you might need it ;D
@@MikaFastfinger haha awesome! I was commenting whilst watching!
I thoroughly enjoyed watching this video, I am finding it 3 years later and am just now starting set up a band home studio and this was just what I needed and I really like the drawings of what is needed and where things go. Simple but super informative, thank you guys so much for this!
Hey! So super nice to hear the video works! The drawing was the very last thing I came up with for this video. It really felt like the only way to make things easily understandable.
Thank you. I.a. product reviews but in a practical "real-time-use" way which is great. There is always something new to see/learn while there are nice and competent people out there. Always equally impressive how some have the lust and will to share their experiences with others. Especially in this clear and descriptive manner.
This is exactly what I needed! I build a rehearsal space and thinking about to provide rehearsal recordings for bands, but i don't want to step inside recording stuff to deep, just basic stuff for basic purposes. This video helps me so much, thank you Mika!
Oh wow! Where was I two years ago?... I know, not recording!!! Loved this video Mika, you are one of my favorite persons that I don't know personally. Thank you so much!
Thank you! So good to hear this video is inspiring. All our latest music is recorded like this. except we upgraded from Zoom to Soundcraft two years ago.
Wow! This is a masterpiece! Super informative and extremely awesome! Thanks for making us part of it!
🙏 Thank you for the trust and collaboration. These mics will do a lot of good in the future! 💚
Dudee i use to jam to mr fast finger on the web all the time! I can't believe I haven't bumped into your channel thank you for the vid
Excellent! So glad to hear! For a fun jam with Mr. Fastfinger check our lastest video ”Dorian Blast”. It’s based on one of the GuitarShredShow mode jams.
@@MikaFastfinger awesomeeee I will
I am glad I finally found out this channel, you are a great man. Thank you.
😀🖐Thanks again!
Welcome! What if I would like to ask you more help in recording and mixing live sessions?
@@witty188 🖐You wouldn’t be a first one 😀if you want, you can book online lesson and we discuss your case. you can start by sending me message with the conract form at mikafastfinger.sellfy.store/music/
The walkthrough of the individual plugins was fantastic.
Great that you found that part of the video useful!
Just stumbled here looking for advice on setting up a way to record at rehearsal simply and got a bonus beginners language course on words I can actually use when talking to other musicians!? Liked and subscribed just for that! Keep it up, loved the vid. Great sound btw!
Oh man, your "making of" videos so inspirational! Thank you for your work!
Thanks for the video, Mika. This is so interesting! pure gold! Will be watching it in more detail tonight👍👍
Cool to hear!!! This was a challenging video to make. There's quite a bit of info there. Hope it makes some sense!
@@MikaFastfinger Tons of useful information on the video, and very well explained. It really makes me sad how youtube manage video promotion, this should be on the front page of all your youtube members... Lasse is the man! what an awesome music trio.
This theme of DIY seem to be one of your most viewed. Keep going. Peace
Yes, this is surprisingly the most popular video of the last few years. It was a lot of challenge to put it together so I'm most happy it's has been spreading. Thanks! Wax on!
@@MikaFastfinger Right on, if it works go with it, maybe a DIY DAW gain staging or the like seems to be popular. Wax off LOL
Thank you for the L-12 Mixer, and all the lessons on my Phone ☎️. Playing with a new Blue’s Song for about 3 years. I have been playing since 1959 in Brooklyn NY. Now I need to put all my words to music. Doc Magoo
What a great overview! I'm in the process of making a long video about how to shoot video and record audio (full separate tracks through a digital interface/mixer) for your own band live for a full show, so I've been checking out some similar videos. I loved the way you put this together - great detailed information and very funny as well! I subscribed.
Thank you! This was a bit complex video to put together. I usually improvise all my videos, but here I had to plan some. I was a bit lost with the video until I came up with the idea of drawing the diagrams. That glued things together.
Wishing you best with your own video!
@@MikaFastfinger You're welcome! I can see how the planning would help. I'm in the script stages of mine.
We're a 90s/2000s rock cover band from New Jersey in the U.S. called Later Skater. My goal with the audio is to always make it sound live - but the best live sound that I can get. Too little reverb/room audio from the cameras make it sound like we're lip syncing.
www.youtube.com/@laterskater-90salternative62
You can't understand how this helped alot. You just saved me a lot of money, this is going to help me improve my live recordings. I love you man! Thank you 👋🎊
Most happy to hear this video is found helpful! This method, altough slightly upgraded, has helped us capture all the music for our last two albums and nore. Wax on!!!
Love from Detroit friends… thank you
Great Video and Great Music.
I have moved from Sweden to Finland in 2018.
Looking forward to pick up playing music again.
This has got to be the best music production package video on YT. Thanks a million!! 👍🏻👍🏻
🔥🙌 Humble thanks!
thank you, great video. We have just installed a similar setup in our rehearsal room with singer, guitar, bass and drums and a Zoom L-20. But our guitar player wants his Marshall cab to be mic‘ed, so we get a lot of noise bleed in the voice & guitar mics. We haven‘t converted to IEM, so the bass amp produces additional „noise“. Great idea to have backing track mixed with the metronome click, will try that. Rock on🤘
thank you so much for sharing knowledge and experience in such amusing, enjoyable way! amount of work in it is just unbelievable! and please more language lessons)
Love you brother, thank you so much for sharing very nice video and I love the sound. Blessing with the band
This is really good !!!! thank you guys for give us an insight of how you guys practice
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Man, the bass at the beginning sounded KILLER
Very happy how it sounds too 🙏🔥Check the tune Palma Driver and it’s slap bass outro in this video, it’s worth a listen 😎 Hills and Mountains - Rehearsal room live - Mr. Fastfinger Trio
The mix sounds great!
Hey Kevin, thank you. Noticed you commenting other band videos too. They are all recorded similar way as shown here. A bit more drum mics (+room mics) added. And we upgraded our mixer too to a Soundcraft. But still very mich DIY 😀🖐
Very informative. Thank you so much. This has got me thinking more about how we can make our jam space more functional. Thanks!
Great music and production. Well done
Thank you! 🖐
Hi Mika,
You should consider adding chapters to this video! It would make it easier to navigate.
Thanks for pointing this out! I think chapters weren't a feature on YT yet when I released this and I had not even realized they were missing here. I just added them. 🖐
Nice sound. Thanks for the mixing rundown.
🙌 Thanks! I’m glad to hear somebody actually watched the mixing part too 😀
Fantastic and super helpful video Mika! Thank you!
thanks for sharing your secrets. Lots of gems in this. I see you swapped out your Blubox for the Two Notes Torpedo C.A.B. M.
Thanks for sharing Mika, an informative video
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Wow! Thank you for such hard work on explaining everything.
very good and detailed. Thanks so much!
Thanks for this. Want to use this sort of setup with my band as well. Very enlightening.
Great! All the best with setup, we’ve found this very very handy!
The bass dude is on a rampage...lol..pure comedy there,thanks guys
Love your drawing.Great job always
Thank you!. I think the drawing kind of glued everything together nicely :)
Nice video! I enjoyed watching it and it was an entertaining insight to your overseas workflow and ultimately, great listening to the end result. Thanks 🙏 You have a new sub.
Excellent! Thanks you, happy to hear you enjoyed the end results also! btw. The latest live band videos on my channel were captured and done similar way, but we upgraded to Soundcraft Ui24R.
@@MikaFastfinger I'm highly considering buying one of those. My friend has the L8 and was impressed with how you utilised the L12.
Also considering the Mackie DL16S as I've had the DL1608 in the past for 10 years and that was super reliable although no ISB Multitrack.
Behringer X32 rack is another contender
Its really between a X32 rack and UI24R.
Great video. Very informative. I've been looking at recording my band at rehearsal. Cheers 👍
Pleased to hear! 👍👍👍
Love your band and band mates
Great stuff guys!
Excelent!!!
This is fantastic, thanks a lot for putting the effort in doing this amazing video!!!
Thank you! This took some serious effort to put together. glad you appreciated it!
Fantastic vid!
Excellent video thanks for taking the time to put it together 🙏
Well done. Thanks.
Thanks!
Thank you!
Awesome video, Mika.
Thank you! hope it inspires you to do some recordings!
Great insights. Please ask the drummer to share his kick drum tuning method. I just got a 18 inch kick. I like his sound. What drumheads is he using on the kick? Is their internal muffling?
Everything sounds just great! But why pan the guitar to the left if evereything else is in the right place? I get that you are in the left end of the video but it tends to not let the stereo guitar fx's stand for what it's supposed to be, at the end of the day you're the lead part of the band, right? Video and audio just amazing, thanks for your amazing work and keep it rolling! I totally respect this moment...
Heh, somekind of fixation i guess. I hate having everything in the center. Maybe too much listening to Van Halen records too ;) But it’s a good question and worth thinking if that’s the way in future!
Great video! Only thing missing is what if you have a vocalist? Thanks!
Thanks! Vocalist are usually quite easy to handle with a mic 😀👍
@@MikaFastfinger lol yes, I figured that. :) I was wondering more about - does the Zoom Livetrak have enough inputs for your scenario with a singer? And do you process his vocals through the mixer at all or just wait till editing at the daw? Things like that. ;)
Scott Whitlow haha, yeah! Well, zoom processing is quite limited. As are the inputs. Few months ago we swapped this mixer to Soundcraft Ui24r, it’s on a complitely different level. Highly recommend if you have some skills and interest in mixing. it takes bit more to learn how to use it but atleast for us it’s been a major level up. you can really have a fine tuned ready mix (or headphonemix) with it. each channel with full strip and 4 fx processors.
Thanks 👍🙏
Hi, this video is amazing, and your band too. The only thing i didn't understand is how you connected the overheads and toms mics on the drum. Have you used some pre-amp or di box for merge the 2 signals and use less inputs in the mixer?
Thank you, glad you found the video! I’ve got a extra (secret) pair of mic pre’s to add more mic inputs. can’t remember, i might have had it the other way during the days we shot this video but basically this is the way we track. 1. gtr, 2. bass 3. kick 4. snare 5. tom hi 6. tom lo 7. backing track mono audio 8. backing track click 9/10 over head LR stereo (using the external lowbudget ART mic pres inside the rack 11/12 Lexicon reverb/delay ambience for our monitoring). That’s it!
Great video, I am having trouble with SD card. I record in L-8 or sometimes H4n and then take it to my PC and it sometimes wants me to format which will of course erase all the tracks, any help with this would be great. Or maybe I just need to put the SD card in the H4n and then plug it into my PC with the USB. Any advice would help. This is a bummer.
That’s an issue I mever had with Zoom / SD card. When this happens, did you try the card in other PCs or Mac? Did you use tge same card in both zoom devices? Maybe that messes up something. I moved to Soundcraft mixer a few years ago, I’m not an Zoom expert really, hope you find a fix to this annoying problem. 🖐
Hello! On monitoring inputs going from interface, to PC (DAW), to Monitors (Headphone, PA, Studio Monitors), is there a latency going to the monitors when you use Livetrak? I am planning to get the L-20 version of Livetrak and I am kinda afraid that there might be latency when we're recording. I wish to know if it's going to do well.
I have no experince using this as an interface. We moved to using Soundcraft Ui24r, which is waaaay more advanced mixer than this. it works as an interface also. nut sure if it fits your needs but be sure to check info about it as an alternative.
@@MikaFastfinger Okay, I'll put this in my radar, thank you so much for the recommendation!
Cool video I keep coming back to it, and great band you got!. I have the Zoom L-8 and my 2 band projects use it in my garage. I wonder about using D.I. to record. We have not gotten great results on the guitar and bass sound.I mean its not horrible but I can hear its D.I. even when I add speaker and or amp to it in Post. I wonder if we need the D.I. box that has speaker emulation like you have or just a simple D.I. I noticed the D.I. you use is like 7000kc. I might get it in the future but just wondering if I can get good sound for cheaper. So basically I am wondering how to get good sound recording D.I. from bass and guitar amps via the Zoom L-8. Thanks!
Hey, thanks. Sp great to hear the video still works. hmmm. I find it hard to help with this little info: not hearing the results. If you get a clean strong D.I. signal captured the problem can be with you post processing? Have you tried different Amp plugins?
I personally don’t like recording pure clean DI of guitar. I rather have the amp and cabinet simulation there (still using Cab M by Two Notes) before going to mixer. With bass tones I never liked having cabinets, i only use amp part of the plugins.
If you have trouble w pure DI tones and post prpcessing, rather fix the of Bass and Guitar as ready as possible before you connect em to the mixer. Best of luck and fun!
Great video Mika!!
Thank you my friend. It came out pretty nice! Was one of the most challenging ones to edit and put together in a little while 😂
I can imagine...I love the language lessons too!! Hope you're well!!
The SuperFunAwesomeHappyTime Pedal Show! Oh yeah, the language lessons 😅 That a last minute idea i got while driving to the rehearsal place to do all the video shootings 😎 I’m doing good thank you, hope all is well with you! Wax on!
Love this video!
Hey Mika, this has been great for me to learn how to use my L20 for our five-piece band. Just wondering how exactly you patch in the Lexicon effects unit to your monitor/headphone mixes. Do you run the signal to and from the Lexicon via one of your stereo channels then just turn up this input in the sends from the channel strips to the individual headphone mixes? Many thanks. Have bought both Tremors and Mountain tones on my iTunes ...love them they are great!
Hey there! We moved to Soundcraft Ui24 over 3 years ago so I had to try to remember our old setup with L12. We are 3 piece so I had to extra monitor oitputs free. I used those as aux sends for a) reverb b) delay. Lexicon has a dual fx mode so that made this possible. Lexicon signal was simply hooked to one of the stereo channels of L12. so the fx were mixed to our monitor mixes as any other instruments. Hope this helps! Thank you so much for your support! More music coming out soon… Wax on, Mika
Thank you for the great video! One thing that I don't fully understand though is how you connect the tom mics to the mixer. It looks like you are running the mics through separate pre-amps and from there into the stereo channels of the mixer. Do you have two pre-amps that have stereo outputs that you connect to two separate stereo channels? And if so, why aren't you using the two pre-amp slots that are still available in the mixer?
I hope you know what I mean :)
Cheers man.
Hey, thanks! The way i connected Toms to the mixer. Well, I didn’t mention why i did it like this because i thought it would just confuse a lot of people. Tried to keep the video somehow straight forward. But since you asked 😀 First of all the mono backing and click track took the last 2 mono mic channels of the mixer, we wanted to be able to adjust the levels and panning of these channels to our headphone monitors. Hearing click hard left and backing hard right would not work. So, the Toms mics were connected to two separate mic pre amps (could have been a 2 channel mic pre too) then those were connected to one of the stereo input we still had free. I decided to connect the toms like this because we didn’t have to monitor these tracks when playing but I still was able to capture the toms on on separate tracks. Not sure if this expanation can be followed. Anyways we already moved on to using Soundcraft Ui24r mixer so we don’t need to do such magic tricks anynore. After setting the new system, life is easier and sound is way much better! 👍 Cheers!
Great video!!!
Thank you!!!
Great video man :) I'm just wondering, do you play always with headphones at rehearsals? Never got the real sound? (exept for the drums)
If you do a life recording of a gig for example how do you deal with all the sounds the microphones are picking up? Any ideas how to achieve good gig recordings, we play with the same ammount of drum mic's plus 2 mic's for guitar amps plus 2 vocal mic's. thats 12 mics and everyone of them picks up (more or less) the sound of the whole band.
We’ve played at rehearsals with headphones on for the last 2 or 3 years. This suits our music well. I don’t miss the times when we rehearsed with amps and i had to wear ear plugs. it was hard to hear the details.
Live, sure there’s leaking with all the amps aloud, but i never found it to be that hard to cope with it. On our case only drums will have that problem and mainly overhead mics.
Live I’d still use my cabinet simulation box to record, monitor and to give the front of house live engineer a great guitar tone.
Kind of what we do with my band Axiom9. This way we also record all of our rehearsals. Not exactly the same, but the basic idea is the same.
Cool! How do you guys mic the drums? This is the most effortless and compact yet great sounding way to do it. fast to setup any time and anywhere.
@@MikaFastfinger Until now I was using 2 Inexpensive SM57 copies from Thommann for Overheads, Another one for the Snare and a 58 for the kick.
I used the snare and kick signal to trigger Superior Drummer and mixed those in to balance snap. Then took the overhead signal into 4 separate channels for the stereo signal.
2 for cymbals in which i used eq to cut off any freqs below 500 to prevent too much toms bleed.
The other two I cut eh audio and leave only the parts where the toms are playing and eq and compress to keep most of the drum characteristics.
It's a lot of work, but it yields a very nice "Live" sound. We are now about to buy a set of drum mics as we will be able to work with 16 channels. Until now we had only 8 channels to work with and as all of our material is free form live improvisation we don't like to add overdubs so everything has to be recorded in the moment. Our bass player uses 3 channels already. XD
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Thank a lot for this video! Based on this Im getting the gear to do the same set up with my band. One question, Do you always need the DI and the Virtual Cabinet? What if I have a guitar and a bass combo, can I plug them directly to the "Zoom Livetrak-12"? Thanks!
Francisco Javier Araya The Two Notes virtual cabinet is there for a great sounding simulation of miced cabinet. You can mic or use the direct out of your combo for sure. and if you get a sound that you like, it works!
Francisco Javier Araya and thanks! Have fun with putting the setup together!
@@MikaFastfinger Thanks a lot!!
Moi, voinko kytkeä basson suoraan pedaalista mixeriin eli mikä on DI boksin tarkoitus?
Tarkoitus ruveta äänittelemään tässä treenejä ja vähän tutkiskelen tätä varten.
Hyvä video!
Moi! Basson voi kytkeä mikserin instrumentti sisääntuloon. normaaleihin XLR ja Linja kanaviin basson signaali pitää muuntaa sopivaksi DI boksilla. DI on monesti näppärä esim keikkakäytössä ja sillä voi myös jakaa signaalin kahteen ulostuloon. Laadukas DI myös voi soundata paremmalta kuin mikserin instrumentti input. Basson haasteena on valtava dynamiikka, erityisesti atakissa jos ei ole mitään kompressori tai limitteri -pedaaleja välissä. No ainakin haasteita ilmaantuu kun Släpätään 😀 Kiitos!
so nice and useful... just a question, I don't know if I got it wrong, but first did you record in stereo?... how did you separate the difference instruments to treat them separately ?... thx so much
not stereo but multitracking, recoder every on separate tracks. kick, snare, overheads, bass, guitar… otherwise you cannot mix it afterwards.
@@MikaFastfinger oh ok... but you didn't record each channel straight onto the DAW, right?... you recorded them separately onto your Sd card and then dragged them onto your DAW... is that right? thx so much
@Alex FR that’s right. Zoom recorded multitrack audio files to SDcard. And then later i imported those tracks to DAW and did the final mix for the video.
@@MikaFastfinger ok thx so much
1:55 did he play the PH theme????
So you don’t have the mixed sound in your in ear monitors for live right?
A year or so after this video shooting, we swapped this Zoom to Soundcraft Ui24r and that machine gives us a way greater mix for in-ears. But obviously I still do separate mixes of any recordings that are used in our albums or videos.
@@MikaFastfingerThanks for your reply! Is there any video presenting your new setup?
i really like the video, I have one question, from mixer to SD card how did you transfer it to PC Studio Software became Track by Track files??? mine is Wave file after I recorded it , cannot be track by track when I transfer it to my PC studio software??? I hope you can answer me... thanks for your tutorial it helps a lot
i’m not quite sure what you mean. on the SD card there’s folder where every recording can be found as separate numbered wav tracks. Then i just move and place the wav files to Cubase on separate tracks. Are you using the same Zoom L-12 mixer?
How did you guys recorded separate channels tru the audio mixer into the DAW??
Zoom records separate tracks into a SD card. SD card into the Mac.then import tracks to DAW
hi guys I have a few questions..
First, I live in a townhouse so my band does silent rehearsals with everything going direct to an analog mixer and from there usb out to my laptop using NCH mixpad. All our recordings always sound very flat and raw so I am guessing that is because of no room volume. I’m trying to figure out how to get more color or ambiance to the recordings.
Two, Right now my usb output is only a stereo signal so I am not able to multitrack our rehearsals and wanted to see if there is a way to achieve that without purchasing expensive equipment.
Thank you!
Chuck
Our experience is that with headphone rehearsals ambience is higly important. Without it the mix balance feels always off. Get yourself some kind of Fx device, a second hand rack unit that does some ambience / room. You will not regret this, it will make your headphone jam feel and sound more like you play in a room or a venue. Cheap late ’90’s Lexicon, like the one we use here cost almost nothing.
With your current stereo recordings, atleast what you can do now is add some ambience/room fx in the mastering. add it before the compression/limitlng. This can definetly help the recordings sound more natural.
So, you record the sound through the mixing desk, how do you transfer that back onto the video?
use any video editor software (premiere, final cut, davinci etc). you will see the original video camera audio on timeline,. place your new stereo mix on another track and make sure it’s in sync with the original camera audio. next mute the original audio. export the video with the new audio and you’re done!
That's great, I thought it would probably be processed something like that, thank you.
how do you create the final bass kick setting
watch the full video with the mixing part. that should explain it.
How come you didnt use acoustic panels is it needed ?
Room treatment. I got some panels in my studio where i mix. and bass traps too. But the room is naturally so good it doesn’t need much anything. In the rehearsal room thomas has covered the roof with some ...stuff 😀
Whats the best mixer to get ?
For this type of thing Zoom L-12 does an okay job. Simple to use, in our use it’s always been solid and worked well. Great easy thing for s small band to get started.
we just upgraded to Soundcraft Ui24r, it has more inputs. (I wanted to have 3 guitar channels and we can now have room mics as well), it can do a very fine mix on it’s own: channel strips, 4 effects all the groups and advanced routing... but it’s a complitely different thing and more complicated to setup (initially). You need to be a bit of a sound engineer to get behind it.
But what is best for you, i don’t know about you and your bands needs. And i don’t know that much about all the options out there. Hope you find one that suits you!
@@MikaFastfinger thankyou not sound engineers no just need something easy to record different music equipment from drums, guitars and singing. To do all this without having to keep paying out on things
Time to Shine 👍 well then zoom is pretty good option i believe.
@@MikaFastfinger brilliant thankyou 😁
Our whole new album was recorded like in this video. You need to hear this: ua-cam.com/video/rbdPoLk5tY0/v-deo.html
(We swapped Zoom L-12 recorder to Soundcraft UI24r but otherwise the setup is still the same as on this video.)
we live in the “how to” hera
heh, i guess we do! UA-cam is incredible place for learning to do just about anything.
Ok but is this Helsinki orrrr......?
Bassorumpu
Step one: Get thousands of dollars worth of gear.
The gear is realtively cheap these days and money can buy. The real step one should be: learn to play. That’s is somethibg you won’t be able yo buy and is most essential.
Sorry, had to stop when I saw there is a hole in the bass drum head. Nope, nope...no thanks. Laterz.
i know for drummers it changes the feel and all when there’s a hole. it’s also about the tone you’re after, if you want more round or jazzy tone what ever. For me, without the hole I always had to do magic tricks to get the bass drum sound the way this music needs it to sound.
The bass player is a chatty fello.
crap...real music is dead...sad
Real music isn’t dead, you just need to find it and tune in.
Very helpful video! thanks so much for your work
Thanks, glad this video keeps helping out people like you!