The Godfather of Digital Art - Craig Mullins - Art Cafe
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- Опубліковано 15 жов 2024
- Craig Mullins is an american artist, painter and pioneer of digital art.
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02:00 Introductions and The Role of AI in Art and the Future of Creativity
35:33 The Concrete Brain and Adaptation
49:09 The Overwhelming Influx of Data and Connectivity
01:06:57 The Cyclical Nature of History and Rapid Change
01:16:38 The Journey into Digital Art and the Emergence of Photoshop
01:38:36 Being Selective with Influences and Embracing Failure
Maciej is stone cold dropping this without any warning
You need a warning? How to prepare?
I really loved this part about keeping your own and very personal artistic approach alive and just being yourslef:
✍"if you don't have to have social media don't. if you don't have to go to Artstation then don't because it will increase the incest in the industry, because you'll see powerful work done by powerful tools with powerful individuals of the top and it'll run right over the top of whatever delicate Little Flower is trying to emerge from your soul and that is the worst thing that can happen you know, the influence is much too powerful"
Thanks for writing that out. Good stuff
That part resonates so much with me. I've started digital painting 8 years ago, but now, I'm a fully traditional painter, and not being influenced by social media or artstation has been a blessing to my productivity and creativity. Indeed, our only chance is to be ourselves.
Super exciting, Craig is always full of original and well-considered takes.
This is such an interesting conversation to be a fly on the wall for! Thank you for releasing this!
Randomly stumbled upon this. Just saw my hero speak and was blown away. Thank you!!!
we love Craig so much
Great interview. Very profound conversation. Thank you so much to both Maciej and Craig.
The king is here🔥🔥🔥 I can't wait
Craig is really becoming the old sage I like to listen too haha. Thanks for the great episode.
Amazing talk. Thank you so much.
YESSS!!! Two legends dropping knowledge.
Incredible talk. Craig is always so informative.
He's super chill! very young at heart, loving the vibes. very humble too! this was an awesome episode, Maciej! thank you very much!
Thank you both for this ! Nice anecdotes, info and humour, it was a great listen while drawing !
Years and years ago Mullins work made me wish I had taken a career in concept art, but there were no courses for that and I didn’t even know about it!
Ended up becoming a graphic designer but wish I had explored it!
The 3 last minutes are gold ! I think there is so much more to talk about social media presence, inspiration and the amount of information we're absorbing. Same about the fact that a lot of art in the industry is getting alike !
Awesome discussion, i'm eager to hear more from him
So glad your back! I missed Art Cafe hugely when you were on a break
Thank you for the video. Very enlightening and a good listen while working.
NIIIIICE! THis episode was INCREDIBLE! Great Work guys!
Just when I was thinking about your podcast a couple days ago. Thank you for sharing your experiences!
Happy to hear you guys talk
"Craig Mullins takes a dump on my desk- like a baosss" xD
It's also worth considering the prospect that AI is an attack on the Human Creativity by the industrial complex. And the AI news is not the only thing going on, here in the UK, the Government has cut down drastically on funding for creative courses at Universities. So this will affect what courses are viable and available for students wanting to go into a creative profession.
Even as a hobbyist game programmer I started learning how to draw because I couldn't get the AI to produce what I had in mind.
Could listen to 8 hours of this. Cheers!
artists will always be artists
my learning actually shifted towards books. I grew tired of online classes, workshops and youtube videos. I came to realize that much of what they were teaching were things that they had taken from these books and presented in their own ways with their own ideas. Some was good, some was not.
I am just tired of technology. I have to use it for work, and to keep up with the news, but I wish I could just throw it all out of the window.
Everytime my phone or laptop updates they just shove something I didn't want down my throat.
I am tired of this.
I can't believe this only have
Craig Mullins has accomplished so much, he's GoLdEn!!
4:37 “to use a tool to do work that you probably should be doing is damaging in the long run even if it’s immensely helpful in the short run”… both a good reflection on AI but also our entire western civilization…
Great talk, Thank you and Happy Painting!
I see Craig Mullins, I click
Would be great to have it on the Apple Podcast
That was a brilliant episode
Loved this thank you ❤both
living legend.
Great Ep Maciej!
19:03 ‘Everyone can be super! …And when everyone is super, NO ONE WILL BE.’ ~ Syndrome
The King. The All-Father. Yes.
No AI can replace you Mr
"Craig Mullins takes a dump on my desk" 🤣🤣🤣
Ser Craig and Maciej will do just fine and continuously thrive, can't say that for the rest bunch, if your thing has no unique vision nor have that belief you may one day outgrow your old self , then stay clear from all these thing as earlier as possible before you got obliterated by AI. this is conclusion and comment came from combination of truth and some deeply haboured resentment.
cameras didn't steal art from 16.000 artists :) and doesnt depend on the backs of artists to generate the image (which was stolen without consent) Why cant you do it with music? but you can treat artists like garbage?
There were artists that imitated me quite well, some did me better than me. you could say they trained themselves on my work, as I trained myself on artists of the past. I lost a lot of business from this. Should I ethically or legally object? Did they ask me? Should they have? Most have gone on to define their own styles, which gratifies my part in their process.
Maybe the difference is in the quantity and inexpensive nature of AI that make the analogy to human imitation flawed. I grant that to be sure.
Do you know whether there will be a critiqued class of him anytime soon?
Age of Empires! I had them as wallpapers as a kid!
Great one!
is this actually almost two hours of non stop craig mullins images? if so that is absolutely wild
Maintain the illusion of freedom
❤✨tnks
is this available as a just audio podcast? I cant find "art cafe" in podcast addict
still on repeat 3 weeks later
this is sick!
50:51 Can anyone please explain what does he mean by "The spicy mustard problem"? It's the second time Craig refers to this term in this video and googling didn't help.
Pretty sure he just means obvious generic cookie cutter creativity. You have mustard - let’s make it spicy. Let’s make it sweet. It’s just combining two obvious things
its the dumbing down of AI so as not to give any offense or liability to the corporation behind the AI. Goes like this-- AI, can you tell me how to make some spicy mustard? "No, that might harm someone and I am ethically bound not to answer! Lets talk about kitties!"
He's the godfather of digital PAINTING, not digital art as a whole.
The greater theme is about protecting empathy in the creative industries. Do we want empathetic design - or do we want pornographically hyper specific targeted creativity for every possible demographic.
Obviously we want the former but industry will drive us towards the latter. I think “organic”’art will be a thing. Just like there are dumb pop music and really soulful Indy music.
Unfortunately the current culture is actually anti-intellectual and many people take pleasure in breaking down traditions and making fun of good things. Organic food is actually a great example because it is still commonly denied as being worth the cost especially within the agriculture fields, despite the fact that it is literally the way that food was grown since the dawn of agriculture until the invention of fertilizer in the 20th century. It is considered "cringe" to have any kind of values of any kind and you are supposed to embrace a kind of vague cynical post-post-post-meta-irony perspective on the world in order to protect your employment and friendships.
@@tomatom9666 well said sir
Way hey! 😊
Craig Mullins being aware of not falling into the "cranky old man syndrome" 🤣
ooof lets goooooooo~!
No way!
Way back, Mullins had an amazing website. It was large scans of all of his work. Some garbage human hacked it and ruined it. Sadly we never got that kind of site back. Same happened with Jeff Jones, too.
1:41:45 🔥
Yeeeeeeessss
So a comment i would make about this point "if everything is art, then nothing is" is that i do think everything is art, if you look at art history, it's tough to come out confident about what is and isn't art. I mean really take a hard look at all art history, not just paintings and tell me you figured out exactly what is art... i think the limit to that would be things that are considered criminal or psychopathic, they go against human rights, taking away the ability of a fellow human to enjoy their life, to enjoy art, that seems to me like something truly antithetical to the movement
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To paint well in any medium takes a hell lot of skill & patience...contrary to ai, so hell with nonsense opinions!
Spooge Demon!
1:00:44 lol, in a purrrfect world we become the pets of AI
only through Ai hollywood can make it moving
Hmmm, Mr Mullins only mentions img2img with Stable Diffusion and not Control Net or training a Lora. That is a whole other world.
You can buy top of the line sports equipment but can you play sports on a professional level? The same applies to AI. Artist will forever remain on top. By artist I mean people who work hard and are passionate about the craft. Your years of experience will not go down the drain because of AI. I believe AI will come to a middle ground eventually, It's inevitable. When that time arrive artist will eventually incorporate AI tools into their process. It's just that things will get really bad before it gets better. Grifter companies with deep pocket. Corrupt Politicians taking bribes. The world is a mess right now. I just hope I can hold on long enough to see the change.
It might be a mess, but it was a far worse mess before.
sooo juicy!!!
"orc with a thong bikini " - craig mullins
It isn't art
It's graphic design and illustration
They sure hire psychologists! Fortnite is designed by psychologists specifically targeted at kids.
Also the phrase "if everyone is an artist then no one is" isn't doing ANYTHING to prove its point. It's like saying "if everybody is human then no one is": which is nonsense. The idea is that even if everything is art, that is not necessarily saying everything is great art, or evokes the same intensity of emotions. A tiny grain of sand from my backyard is beautiful under a microscope, but doesn't fascinate me me as much as looking at a Lady of Shalott by Waterhouse. Everything might be art but that doesn't mean everything feels the same
My favorite quote is "everyone is someone's worst nightmare..." Invert that thought. Everyone is someone's Michelangelo... Unless you are stuck on an objective measure of artistic value. Which you should not be!
@@snillumgrebo exactly, art is challenging objective measures at every turn, even digital art had to do that, some people do no believe it has value, meanwhile we're here praising Mulins, and he deserves it. but why stop there? it's just a mindset that ultimately limits what you can experience
Lolz, just own it. Photobashers got ahead of ByHanders, the tools gave that cutting edge. Now the AI-ers will get ahead of Photobashers and replace them. It's all about money, and time is money. Just face it, the tools now render your skill irrelevant! I am more interested in seeing what AI tool will generate than what individual "artist" can come up with. The only purpose for a classically trained artist who has skill through experience is to create directed content, but even then won't be able to compete because of the time and the cost. Lolz, In the future where robots were supposed to free humanity from manual labor to pursue arts, instead replaced humanity in the arts and left them to the manual labor😂
Where are you in this scenario, my dear?
From a commercial standpoint, you are correct, IMHO.
Kinda lame, sorry.
I can literally generate these with NovelAI lol, it's not really that impressive
Dude, You don’t get the context. your comment is merely embarrassing
Only thing you can generate is poop in the toilet
I've seen hundreds of AI generated images and I haven't seen yet anything close to the level of Craig Mullins art.
Im "those people" 🥲
Would be cool if u could make a podcast with Alberto Mielgo.
omg